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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Donegal => Topic started by: nell1850 on Sunday 17 October 10 14:22 BST (UK)
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This really is a long shot that anyone can help.
I have been researching the Desmond family in the Claudy area of Derry (parish of Cumber Upper).
I've got back to John Desmond born round about 1818 (calculated from his death record) but with no evidence of where he was born.
I have discovered a Henry Desmond on the 1796 Flax Growers' list in Moville Lower but I can't link him to the later Desmonds. The name Desmond is rare in Northern Ireland, otherwise I might have dismissed this. Moville and Claudy aren't so far from each other either. I really don't know where to go with this. I've looked on the movillerecords.com site but Henry Desmond is elusive and I haven't found another Desmond in Donegal.
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All the Desmond's come from County Cork. There is a story in my family that one of the Desmond's was going to Glasgow. He was a cabinet maker. He met a girl from Claudy that had a cottage industry making cloths. They moved to Derry and set up Desmond Shirt Factory. He never made it to Scotland. These Desmond's were from Macroom in County Cork. I'm not sure which Desmond this guy was as I'm only focusing on my direct line, but the family had names like: Humphrey, Andrew, Jeremiah, John, Denis, Michael, Dan Pat and Patrick. The girls were almost always Johanna, Mary, Julia, Ann, Abina/Abigail, Hanora (Nora), Catherine, Margaret.
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Hello Joedes
Thanks for your reply. I have often wondered if my Desmonds came from Cork originally as it is a common name down there but I've never been able to make a link. The Desmond who started the shirt factory in Claudy was Bridget Desmond, who was the daughter-in-law of the John Desmond I mentioned in my first message. She married the son also called John in about 1885 and he joined her in her enterprise, which grew into a major business. Sadly the last of the Desmond shirt factories closed some years ago.
This website gives you more info on Bridget.
http://www.newulsterbiography.co.uk/index.php/home/viewPerson/386
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Hi,
The Desmond recorded in the Flax Bounty was probably related to either John Desmod, recorded at Drumaweir townland, Moville Lower or possibly another John Desmod recorded at Drung townland, Moville Upper, both in the year 1774. It should be remembered that the spelling of surnames was somewhat arbitrary in this time period, so Desmod was probably Desmond. Another assessment was recorded in Upper Moville parish in 1792, but no Desmond or similar are recorded. It may also be however that both Desmod above and Desmond recorded in 1796 are misspelling of the more common (in the locality) Dermott
Regards
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Hello joemc
Thanks so much for your message. I've had a look on movillerecords.com and understand your point about spellings. I'll bear that in mind.
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Hi,
another birth record that may be of interest
John Desmond baptised Long Tower Church, Derry in 1851, father John Desmond, mother Eliza
Don't have full access to this record but may give mothers maiden name
Regards
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Thanks joemc - that's one I don't think I have on my list.
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Hi there I am researching my tree of Mullan from claudy and from what info I have it would appear John Desmond sr who was from cork married Ann Mullan from claudy who was a sister to my GG G/F. There son John had the shirt factory's
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Hello Pjmullan
Thank you so much for this information, which is really interesting. My John Desmond was married to Nancy (surname unknown) and this could easily be Ann as these names can be interchangeable.
I will send you a private message if that's ok.
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Desmonds mention on donegal resources
http://www.donegalgenealogy.com
then type in the green box Desmonds
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Thank you Rathmore. I did know about this site but so useful to be reminded.
Kindest regards
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Hello,
My mother was recently contacted by a gentleman who is a descendent of Bridget and John Desmond (Claudy). One of their 13 children was Patrick who married Sarah Mullen and had Mary, Patrick and Bridget (my mother was unaware of Bridget but old letters mention her obscurely a few times).
Any more information would be great if you have it.
Thanks,
Samantha
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For reference for everybody:
Is this Patrick’s wedding in 1919?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1920/09250/5348023.pdf
He is a soldier, residing in Claudy.
Here he is with his parents and siblings in 1911 Irish census.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Claudy/Claudy_Town/598474/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002830981/
KG