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Title: Frank James????
Post by: garethrjames on Tuesday 19 October 10 20:55 BST (UK)
Hi,

Am trying to trace any info on my great uncle Frank James b.1917-? in cardiff. Brother of Edward, Margaret and Florence. His parents were Alfred 1872-1930 and Edith Rachel 1876-1940. He went to war in WW2 and we have no more info. We think he returned to Cardiff after the war and fell out with his siblings. Any help appreciated.

Regards

Gareth
Title: Re: Frank James????
Post by: suzard on Tuesday 19 October 10 22:17 BST (UK)
could you post his birth reg ??

and was his full name Frank James??

With a name like James in Wales we need every piece of information available

There is a marriage reg
Alfred John James
Edith R Pengelley
1910
Cardiff
11a 732

There is a birth reg for child

Florence Edith James Jun qtr 1911 Cardiff 11a 355

Could we have full names of other children -and birth reg

I cannot find any birth reg 1912 onwards for James with mother's maiden name Pengelley???

Suz
Title: Re: Frank James????
Post by: suzard on Tuesday 19 October 10 22:30 BST (UK)
think I may have found birth reg
was Edith R married previously??

Marriage reg
Edith Rachel William
George Perrian Pengilly
Jun qtr 1902
Cardiff
11a 482

there is a birth reg Frank James mother's maiden name WilliamsSept qtr 1917 cardiff

???

Suz
Title: Re: Frank James????
Post by: garethrjames on Wednesday 20 October 10 19:05 BST (UK)
Hi, thanks for the responses. Those are indeed his parents. His mother Edith rachel was first married to a george pengelly but after he died she married alfred james. The mystery is did he die in wartime? Did he marry and have kids? When did he die? No idea how to find out. We think he moved out of cardiff but unfortunatley he fell out with his sisters and brother (my grandad) and he was never talked about.
Gareth
Title: Re: Frank James????
Post by: Huwcyn on Wednesday 20 October 10 19:14 BST (UK)
If you want to eliminate a possible wartime death, search for a website which specialises in army
history. Someone might recognise the regimental cap. Do the British Legion hold records for ex-members ?
Title: Frank and Beryl James
Post by: garethrjames on Sunday 15 April 12 10:10 BST (UK)
Hi
Am after some details/confirmation of a missing relative of ours;

Frank James b1917 cardiff
Possibly married a Beryl ? in Pontypridd c.1955

Any confirmation or details really appreciated.

Thanks

Gareth
Title: Re: Frank and Beryl James
Post by: cardiff on Sunday 15 April 12 18:15 BST (UK)
Hi
you have posted this request twice ???
cheers cardiff
Title: Re: Frank and Beryl James
Post by: ruchca on Monday 16 April 12 15:50 BST (UK)
Hi
Did Frank have any siblings, if so do you know their names? Do you know Beryls surname before marriage?
Christine
Title: Re: Frank and Beryl James
Post by: garethrjames on Tuesday 17 April 12 20:09 BST (UK)
Franks siblings were Margaret, Edward (my grandfather) and Florence.
Beryls maiden name was Jenkins.
Thanks
Title: Re: Frank and Beryl James
Post by: Morganllan on Monday 30 April 12 22:29 BST (UK)
Quote
Hi
you have posted this request twice ???
cheers cardiff

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Title: Frank James born 1917 cardiff
Post by: garethrjames on Friday 28 December 12 20:42 GMT (UK)
Hi
Am looking for some info on a Frank James born in Cardiff in 1917. Brother to Edward Thomas James 1912, Margaret James and Florence James. My grandfather lost contact with his brother Frank after WWII and we have no more details about him. Have vague information that he married a Beryl Jenkins in Pontypridd in 1955 but not confirmed. Any help appreciated. Did post this back in April but got nowhere. Thanks
Title: Re: Frank James born 1917 cardiff
Post by: DORAN54 on Friday 28 December 12 21:06 GMT (UK)
Hi  well there is a marriage record for a frank James and a beryl Jenkins pontyprydd last quarter of 1955   vol 8 page 965
Title: Re: Frank James born 1917 cardiff
Post by: garethrjames on Friday 28 December 12 21:30 GMT (UK)
Hi thanks for that. Does it say where the marriage was?
Title: Re: Frank James born 1917 cardiff
Post by: DORAN54 on Friday 28 December 12 21:33 GMT (UK)
 no just ponty  reg district ,sorry
Title: Frank James 1917
Post by: garethrjames on Sunday 26 October 14 16:56 GMT (UK)
Hi
Am looking for some info on a Frank James born in Cardiff in 1917. Brother to Edward Thomas James 1912, Margaret James and Florence James. My grandfather lost contact with his brother Frank after WWII and we have no more details about him. Have vague information that he married a Beryl Jenkins in Pontypridd in 1955 but not confirmed. Any help appreciated. Did post this back in April but got nowhere. Thanks
Title: Re: Frank James 1917
Post by: Romilly on Friday 31 October 14 15:46 GMT (UK)


Hi,

To get any further with this your best bet is probably to order this Marriage Cert:

Name:    Frank James
Spouse Surname:    Jenkins
Date of Registration:    Oct-Nov-Dec 1955
Registration district:    Pontypridd
Inferred County:    Glamorganshire
Volume Number:    8b
Page Number:    965

That will give you Occupations and Addresses, and both Father's names.

You can then check for any children's Births for this couple.

Because of the timescale, and the very common names, the best route then is probably to check Electoral Rolls.

HTH, Romilly.
Title: Re: Frank James 1917
Post by: Romilly on Saturday 01 November 14 09:35 GMT (UK)

There are also these two other Marriages for a Frank James in Cardiff:

First name(s)   FRANK
Last name   JAMES
Marriage quarter   4
Marriage year   1932
Registration month   -
MarriageFinder™   FRANK JAMES married
GWENDOLINE S MORGAN
Spouse's last name   MORGAN
District   CARDIFF
District number   -
County   Glamorganshire
Country   Wales
Volume   11A
Page   670
Record set   England & Wales marriages 1837-2008

First name(s)   FRANK
Last name   JAMES
Marriage quarter   2
Marriage year   1935
Registration month   -
MarriageFinder™   FRANK JAMES married
MARGARET E CROSS
Spouse's last name   CROSS
District   CARDIFF
District number   -
County   Glamorganshire
Country   Wales
Volume   11A
Page   760
Record set   England & Wales marriages 1837-2008

The difficulty is that the names are both quite common, - and so it might be hard to pin down which one is yours, - unless you definately know that he married a Jenkins.

Romilly.
Title: Re: Frank James 1917
Post by: carol8353 on Saturday 01 November 14 14:43 GMT (UK)
Do you know his exact date of birth?

Deaths after 1969 show an exact date of birth as long as the informant knew it of course ;D

Or maybe write to the local paper and see if they'd run a piece about him asking if anyone knows what happened to him.

Carol
Title: Frank james b.1917 cardiff?
Post by: garethrjames on Sunday 12 August 18 10:31 BST (UK)
Hi,

Am trying to trace any info on my great uncle Frank James b.1917-? in cardiff. Brother of Edward, Margaret and Florence. His parents were Alfred 1872-1930 and Edith Rachel 1876-1940. He went to war in WW2 possibly the RAF and we have no more info. We think he returned to Cardiff after the war and fell out with his siblings. Any help appreciated.

Regards

Gareth

Also-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=798410.msg6556449#msg6556449
Title: Re: Frank James????
Post by: carol8353 on Sunday 12 August 18 11:36 BST (UK)
Hi Gareth,

The fact that you've posted the exact same info as you did 8 years ago(and at various times since then too),does that mean you've got no further with this query?

Did you ever get any of the certs mentioned?

Have you found the family on the 1939 register?

Carol
Title: Re: Frank James????
Post by: Romilly on Tuesday 14 August 18 17:48 BST (UK)

Let us know what you've already looked at and discarded Gareth, - and possibly someone on here will be able to help you get further with this branch of your family.

Romilly.