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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Fife => Topic started by: gerry65 on Thursday 21 October 10 21:29 BST (UK)
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Hi all
I am currently researching my Scott family, from Cupar and surrounding areas, back as far as 1790. How can I get details of burial plots in Fife. My first known relation is Alexander Scott born around 1790 who married Robina (Binnie) Miller in Beath 9/5/1818. She was born in Leslie around 1797(1794), some doubt. She died in Leslie (Prinlaws) ON 21/4/1856 with age given as 62.
I would like to find especially Alexander,s birth and death details as he is not listed in the 1841 census. His wife and family are listed in the 1851 but not him.
Can anyone help?
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scott, cumming, jamieson, bertram, Mc Donald(from Antrim)
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HI, there are several listings of scott burials in the Fife NE memorial inscriptions book for cupar but not for the names you give. having a look now on the fife death index pre 1855. - there are 184 scotts listed in cupar, not alex /Robina
what is the last childs birth date to narrow down Alexs death?
Diddy
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if you are interested in the MI's book it is available from the Scottish Genealogical society:
Fifeshire North east parishes monumental inscriptions pre 1855.
lists by place and indexed by surname.
Diddy
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2 likely baps on SP:
27/02/1791 SCOTT ALEXANDER
father: ARTHUR SCOTT CUPAR
26/10/1791 SCOTT ALEXANDER
father: ANDREW SCOTT/ MARGARET WILSON CUPAR
Diddy
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if you have the names of the children they might tie in with parents names. scottish naming pattern:
First son is named for the Father's Father.
Second son is named for the Mother's Father.
Third son is named for the Father's Father's Father.
Fourth son is named for the Mother's Mother's Father
etc
First daughter is named for the Mother's Mother.
Second daughter is named for the Father's Mother.
Third daughter is named for the Mother's Father's Mother.
Fourth daughter is named for the Father's Father's Mother
etc
Diddy
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Thanks Diddy
I think it is more likely that alexander scott died and is buried in Leslie, Fife. His wife robina died there in 1856. I can,t find details of them in 1841 census, but 1851 census has details of Robina and family, but no alexander. My family link is through her son thomas. The latest birth I can find was peter in 1834. I have found 5 children all born in Leslie between 1823 and 1834. So he may have died between 1834 and 1851. On his son thomas,s marriage records he is listed as a ploughman. On the short marriage record in 1818 alexander and robina were married in Beath Fife, but no details apart from the fact he was labourer. On the 1851 census Robina,s birth place is given as Leslie.
regards Gerry
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Hi Gerry - I did check the MI's for Leslie - no go. but will look again at the fife death index with latest info. trouble is that several Alex scotts do not give further info ie relative -wife /occupation /age at death!!
Diddy
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Hi gerry - looking at a death 1834 -1841 (i looked at 1841 on SP for ages 45 -55 and nothing fits, only 2 there and both with other families) this one might fit but no way of confirming:
Alexander Scott died Ceres,cupar
12/4/1834, age 42, decline
that means birth date 1791/2 which unfortunatley would fit with either i gave!! no Alexander Scott deaths in Leslie at all on index.
Diddy
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Thanks Diddy
Will look at that alexander who died in Ceres. He may have been a farm worker who travelled around NE Fife for work.
regards Gerry
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Hi Gerry,I have a Scott ancestor fron Fife.Her name was Elisabeth. All I know at the moment is that she married a William Brown at Earlsferry in 1827.Not sure where she was born yet but I think it could be further to the north.If it turns out she is one of yours let me know as I have her marriage and children's birth records in the parish records.
George.
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Hi George
Thanks for contact, have no Elisabeth for that period. Her age would probably put her in the same era has my 3GG ALEXANDER SCOTT, whom I am finding some difficulty in getting details.
regards Gerry
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And me with her,I think she may be from Kettle.Good luck with the search.
George.
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Hi Gerry.
My line is through Alexander Scott's daughter Janet Scott. Have spent many hours finding details on Alexander and Robina with no luck -- just checking if you have any any progress.
Mark Addison
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Hi Mark, I haven,t had any luck with Alexander Scott, can,t find his birth or death date or his parent,s detail,s. I also don,t have your Janet Scott as his daughter. I have daughter Lillias b 1826 Leslie, son David b1828, Leslie, I think he went to Australia in 1853. Daughter Robina b 1830 Leslie, died 1900 Leslie. My GG Grandfather Thomas, b 1831 Markinch, d 1899 Leslie. Finally Peter b 1834 Leslie. He also may have had a son Alexander b before Lillias. Could you give me details of your Janet.
Regards Gerry
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Is this the family in the 1851 census ?
1851 census: Prinlaws, Leslie (Fife), Fife, Scotland
Robina Scott Head Widow Female 54 1797 House Keeper Leslie, Fife, Scotland
Lillias Scott Daughter Unmarried Female 25 1826 Flax Spinner Leslie, Fife, Scotland
David Scott Son Unmarried Male 23 1828 Ag Lab Leslie, Fife, Scotland
Robina Scott Daughter Unmarried Female 21 1830 Flax Spinner Leslie, Fife, Scotland
Thomas Scott Son Unmarried Male 19 1832 Flax Spinner Leslie, Fife, Scotland
Catherine Dick Lodger Unmarried Female 24 1827 Flax Spinner Auchtermuchty, Fife, Scotland
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hello. I am finding the name Robina seems to have had many variations. Janet was born on the 19 June 1819 in Auchterderran with Father Alexander and Mother Binnie. Both Marriage and Death cerificates show mothers name as Robina. janet married Andrew Addison in 1840 and died in Glasgow in 1880. All my research is from records no no real real knowledge. family history did say that Andrew Addison was a farmer from the Leslie area but married and moved to Glasgow.
The Scott name has shown up as middle names since in a lot of ancestors.
That 1851 census seems to be the family. Janet was married in 1840 and shows up married to Andrew in both 1841 and 1851.
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I'm guessing that Alexander Scott is alive in 1841 and the reason the family can't be found is because they are living in a parish whose 1841 census returns have been lost.
According to SP these are the parishes that are missing
Abdie, Fifeshire , book has no entries
Auchtermuchty, Fifeshire , book has no entries
Balmerino, Fifeshire , book has no entries
Ceres, Fifeshire , no book
Collesie, Fifeshire , no book
Creich, Fifeshire , no book
Cults, Fifeshire , no book
Cupar, Fifeshire , no book
Dairsie, Fifeshire , no book
Dunbog, Fifeshire , no book
Kennoway: Only the enumeration book for Markinch has survived
Kinghorn, Fifeshire , book has no entries
Kinglasie, Fifeshire , book has no entries
Kirkcaldy, Fifeshire , book has no entries
Abernethy: Enumeration book for people living in Fife missing
Arngask: Enumeration book for people living in Fife missing
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hello. I am finding the name Robina seems to have had many variations. Janet was born on the 19 June 1819 in Auchterderran with Father Alexander and Mother Binnie. Both Marriage and Death cerificates show mothers name as Robina. janet married Andrew Addison in 1840 and died in Glasgow in 1880. All my research is from records no no real real knowledge. family history did say that Andrew Addison was a farmer from the Leslie area but married and moved to Glasgow.
The Scott name has shown up as middle names since in a lot of ancestors.
That 1851 census seems to be the family. Janet was married in 1840 and shows up married to Andrew in both 1841 and 1851.
THE SCOTT FAMILY
Robina Scott nee Millar is buried in the Old Kirk on the Green Church Yard in Leslie in 1856. She married Alexander Scott but he can't be found when he died. Alexander Scott married in Beath to Binnie / Diana/ Robina Miller in 1818. Beath I'm just trying to remember these dates from memory.
Their son David Scott born in 1826 I think from memory in Leslie? married Margaret Robertson in 1853 in Prinlaws Leslie Fife. She was the daughter of Henry Robertson & Janet Low. Buried in the Leslie Cemetery. Originally from Portmoak Kinrosshire. David & Margaret Scott are my Great Great Great Grand parents and came to Australia in 1853 on the ship" Childe Harold". ;) David Scott died in Bendigo Victoria Australua in 1872 and Margaret his widow died as Margaret Harris in 1915 after remarrying Alexander Harris.
we are all looking for the same family! robertsondfp74@gmail.com
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Im wondering if the previous posts' information may be some of my ancestors from my mother's side.
My 3rd Great Grandfather William Scott was born ABT. 1815 in Leslie, Fife, Scotland
He died 23 March 1894 Camlachie, Glasgow. His father was Alexander Scott. William's death certificate had no name for his mother.
William married Margaret Sharp in 1836. Their daughter Lillias Scott ABT. 1854 -1933 born in Portmoak, Kinrosshire was my 2nd Great Grandmother.
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I have Scott's from Fife in my tree, Robert Scott is the earliest, probably born around 1790 ish. He married Margaret Smart in 1818 in Dysart. They had a son, Andrew (1834 - 1898).
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Hi all
I am currently researching my Scott family, from Cupar and surrounding areas, back as far as 1790. How can I get details of burial plots in Fife. My first known relation is Alexander Scott born around 1790 who married Robina (Binnie) Miller in Beath 9/5/1818. She was born in Leslie around 1797(1794), some doubt. She died in Leslie (Prinlaws) ON 21/4/1856 with age given as 62.
I would like to find especially Alexander,s birth and death details as he is not listed in the 1841 census. His wife and family are listed in the 1851 but not him.
Can anyone help?
My previous posting was that I am related to you Gerry, being a descendant of David Scott the son of Alexander Scott and Robina Miller. My email address is robertsondfp74@gmail.com
David Scott and his wife Margaret Robertson, the daughter of Henry Robertson and Janet Low, came to Australia on the ship, Childe Harold in 1853.
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scott, cumming, jamieson, bertram, Mc Donald(from Antrim)
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I wonder if your Alexander Scott is my 4th Great Grandfather? His son William had a daughter Rubina/Robina around 1845.
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Hi , I Don,t have a William on my family tree. When was he born. ? There were a few Alexander Scotts around that time. I have seven children for him and Robina Miller. Two daughters called Lillias b1826 In Leslie and Robina b 1830 Leslie. Similar names to your descendants.
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William Scott was born in Leslie, Fife about 1815.
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Hi Alexander scott and robina miller married in 1818 in hill o beath. First child I have record for is Janet b 1819 in Auchterderran. Your William was born 1815 with no record of mother. Either a different Alexander scott or our one had child before marriage, but strange no mothers name . Have you got record of his birth details or any census data. Maybe when he died those left never new his mother's name. Robina miller died in leslie in 1856. She and Alexander would have been in teens when William was born.