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Hello everyone,
Since I last posted I have gotten a bit further down the track. I now have birth certificates for my grandparents and there marriage certificate. I have a problem though trying to get further back in my grandmothers family. I have so far there names and while going through family stuff from Grandads belongings after his death we have found amongst them Nannas parents marriage certificate. I am having a major issue though trying to locate information on there births and deaths.
So from what I have so far.
Nanna: May Olive Joesphine Bush nee Martin born 6/11/1915
Her Mother: Eliza Martin nee Fowler
Her Father: Joe Martin
Joe and Eliza Married 4th August 1905
The marriage Certificate says Joe's father was William Martin and Eliza's father was a William Fowler the witnesses are Elizabeth Fowler and William Fowler
This all happened in the Parish Church of Bramley in the County of Southhampton.
This is all I have so far I have browsed everywhere I just cant figure where to go next I am not sure if I am even on the right track now.
If someone could help I would be very greatful.
Also what can I gain from ordering Death certificates is there anything aside from there causes of death that helps with anything I trying to stick with a bit of a tight budget.
Regards Lecat35
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Hi
Does Joe and Eliza's marriage certificate say how old they are?
What were their places or residence on the marriage and their occupations.
Rosie
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Yes Rosie it does Joe Martin was 28 and Eliza Fowler was 24 Joe was a gardiner and Eliza In service Willam Martin Was a gardiner and Willian Fowler a Labourer
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Joe's Residence is listed as Horsell Surrey and Eliza's Bramley
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Hi
I have spotted Joe in Horsell (I used to live there ;D ) on a couple of census so will post the details.
The census say he was born Chobham, Surrey which is 'next door'
Rosie
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Information removed due to copyright violation. See http://www.rootschat.com/forum/copyright.php for more details
1911 Census Lookups may not be undertaken.
Please see this thread:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,355484.0.html
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Thats great I am hoping someone elses insight helps I am just having no luck. Thankyou for your help.
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Occupation on Nans certificate is Lance Corpral Military Mounted Police address listed for Eliza then is 3 New Road Blackwater Hawley
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1891
living Back Lane, Horsell
William Martin age 59 married a Nursery Labourer bn Chobham
Sarah Martin age 57 wife bn Binfield, Berkshire
Emily Martin age 16 bn Chobham
Joe Martin age 12 or 13 (sorry there is a line right through it.) Nursery Labourer bn Chobham
The next entry on this census is Barley Mow Lane - there used to be a large nursey called Slococks in this area, most is now developed but you may be able to get some information from the Surrey History Centre at Woking. ???
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1891 census: RG12/988/11/16
Southridge, Streatley, Berkshire
William FOWLER Head M 38 Ag lab Hants East Woodhay
Mary J do Wife M 40 Berks Inkpen
William J do Son 9 Scholar Berks Inkpen
George do Son 7 Scholar Berks Newbury
Elizabeth do Daur 5 Scholar Berks Compton
Eliza do Daur 4 Berks Streatley
John do Son 3 Berks Streatley
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Thanks this is a great help I cant find Birth info which is making it hard to order certificates for them. Am I looking in the wrong places I have tried BDM's
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1881
address is given as Barley Mow Lane, Knaphill. Barley Mow Lane is on the Horsell/ Knaphill borders
William Martin age 49 Nursery Labourer bn Chobham
Sarah Martin age 48 bn Binfield, Berkshire
John Martin age 15 bn Chobham
Harriett Martin age 14 bn Chobham
Esther Martin age 12 bn Chobham
George Martin age 10 bn Chobham
Thomas Martin age 8 bn Chobham
Maria Martin age 6 bn Chobham
Joe Martin age 3 bn Chobham
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Thanks this is a great help I cant find Birth info which is making it hard to order certificates for them. Am I looking in the wrong places I have tried BDM's
From freebmd
Births September qtr 1877
MARTIN Joe Chertsey registration district ref 2a 44
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Thanks this is a great help I cant find Birth info which is making it hard to order certificates for them. Am I looking in the wrong places I have tried BDM's
Also from FreeBMD:
Birth
Eliza Fowler
Jun qtr 1886
Bradfield 2c 338
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In 1871 Sarah Martin was living in Chobham RG10 / 806 f142 p10
Sarah Martin age 35 Married - labourers wife bn Binfield.
Children all bn Chobham
William 11
Sylvia 9
James 7
John 5
Harriett 4
Esther 2
George 7mths
Haven't found William yet though :o (He could be lodging in Richmond - but it says he is unmarried)
Rosie
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So then with what you have said so far I am trying to no figure out who the witness is Elizabeth Fowler on the Marriage certificate of William and Eliza as I said further up in this post.
The marriage Certificate says Joe's father was William Martin and Eliza's father was a William Fowler the witnesses are Elizabeth Fowler and William Fowler.
Also who ever posted he 1911 Census stuff its been removed can you tell me where to get it or send it to me in a private message please.
Regards Lesley
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Birth
Eliza Fowler
Jun qtr 1886
Bradfield 2c 338
How did you get this info from the age on the marriage certifcate it dosent add up? I realise they are not always accurate back then but tis a little strange.
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Birth
Eliza Fowler
Jun qtr 1886
Bradfield 2c 338
How did you get this info from the age on the marriage certifcate it dosent add up? I realise they are not always accurate back then but tis a little strange.
Given that you have drawn a blank on finding her based on the marriage certificate information, I suggest your most useful next step might be to have a look for them in the 1911 census. This can be searched for free at www.findmypast.co.uk and its sister site www.1911census.co.uk. However, in order to see a transcript or image you will have to purchase credits on either site (subscriptions also available on Findmypast).