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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Westmorland => England => Westmorland Lookup Requests => Topic started by: imd6662 on Monday 01 November 10 09:51 GMT (UK)
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Looking for a baptism of Henry Dowthwaite/Douthwaite about 1809 in Kendal
Likely to be a son of Henry Dowthwaite and either his wife Ann, or perhaps an illegitimate birth.
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What makes you think he was illegitimate,
from family searchorg there is a John Dowthwaite son of Henry Baptism Kendal 29Th April 1804 ,
could this be a brother,
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Henry Douthwaite and Ann Hutchinson were married Kendal 1st January 1799,
is this the family you are looking for,
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Yes indeed, this is them.
The older Henry would later marry again in 1812 and the younger is either the youngest child of his first marriage or perhaps something in-between.
The uncertainty comes ab out because in later census returns where he appears his birthplace is always given as Kendal whereas his siblings are all shown as being born at Stavely, near the Kentmere and Longsleddale valeys in which the older Henry farmed continuously as a far as I can tell.
Also I'm unaware if the original records show and/or confirm the mother's name
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My Aunt and dad were in Stavely as evacuees its not very far from Kendal,on the bus route to Windermere,
I see a Henry did marry in Stavely in 1829 to Ann Tengate ,do you think its possible he was John Henry ,
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that is indeed the marriange of Henry, and is how I tied back to tis father Henry and older brother John.
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In 1851 census,
is Henry Junior (married) , a carpenter lodging with the Kitching family,
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That's right. I have him quite well documented up to is death. Just the brith I'm trying to clarify.
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Henry remarried Jane Taylor 30th January 1813 in Kendal,
so he might be Henry Taylor ?
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No, he's definitely Henry Dowthwaite,b 1809. Was simply hoping that someone with access to original records could confirm any other details in the entry.
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Many thanks Radcliff for you efforts on this, especially the nugget about Jane Taylor.
If you ruin across anything else about Henry's birth then I'd very appreciative.
Thanks again
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Of course I will ,I have a few relatives in Kendal still so if I am up there and you know which church your family used, I would be able to go to the archives and have a quick look at the records there,
Gillian
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Thanks again Gillian.
We spent five days in Ambleside back in early July which gave me chance to get some familiarity with the area - especially driving back and forth to Kendal, passing Staveley, as well as drive up both Kentmere and Longsleddale. But not enough time to visit the archives.
I think part of the trouble in tracking these folks down is that (a) the IGI coverage of the outlying parishes of Kendal is patchy and (b) the transcription of records of the outlying chapels into the Kendal registers is confusing and incomplete.
It looks like the family are likely to have patronised the Staveley chapel/church since there is a small batch of entries in IGI, transcribed from Staveley by an LDS member, which includes the marriages of the children of the older Henry Dowthwaite and his wife Ann Hutchinson, and also a batch of baptisms for the children of Henry and his second wife, Jane, which appear to be extracted from a combination of parish registers and bishops transcripts for Staveley, but only covering about 1813 to 1857.
The chapel at Kentmere is another possibility, and the IGI again has recordsw from about 1813 which include some of the grand-children of Henry and second wife Jane.
Before 1813 I gather that all the chapel entries were annualy transcribed to the main Kendal registers and therefore ought to appear under Kendal. But hnery doesn;t. Therefore seems most likely he might be buried in the pre-1813 Staveley register.
The other children of Henry Dowthwate and Ann Hutchinson Do appear in the Kendal enrties ON IGI. but the younger Hnery does not.
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I have a Thomas Douthwaite b. 1822 who is my 3rd great grandfather. his wedding information lists Henry Douthwaite as his father. marriage took place in Kendal on 24 Dec 1848. Could the Henry born in 1809 be Thomas' father?
I don't have any information on siblings of Thomas - he married Mary Anne Greenwood and had a son Richard who is my 2nd great grandfather.
Would you have any further information on Henry or Thomas or where I may search.
thank you.
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Possibly Henry's half-brother. Have sent you a PM.