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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Essex => Topic started by: julied on Tuesday 01 June 04 06:57 BST (UK)
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Hi everyone, looking for any info re William Fewell/Fuel b abt 1745 Great Waltham, marr Margaret Twinn 1768, Felsted. Anything at all on them or their descendants will be greatly appreciated. Have some info but have hit a brick wall.
cheers, Julie :)
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Hi Julie, great to find someone researching the same Fewell line, I am also researching William Fewell, I hadn't located his marriage yet although I had found a lead pointing to Felsted. I have found four children of William and Margaret so far, no doubt there are others out there somewhere, all four baptised in Gt Waltham.
William Fewell 24 Jan 1779.
Melly Fuel 18 Jun 1786.
Samuel Fuel 1 Mar 1789.
Sophia Fuel 15 May 1791. Sophia is my ancestor, she married into my Searles line.
Whilst over in the UK in 2002 I found purely by chance the following baptism in the Felsted PRs, William Fewell baptised 5 Feb 1744, parents William and Hannah. Unfortunately at that point my time in the UK was up so I was unable to check if he married or was buried at Felsted.
Do you have the full date of his marriage to Margaret Twinn in 1768 and was the info from Parish Registers ?
Do you have any details of William and Margaret's children ?
Hope the info is of use to you, all being well I will be in Essex later this year and intend to follow up on this family. :)
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Hello findem, I'm sorry but I started to reply to your message the other day and ended up getting sidetracked on another family member and never got back to it. None of my info is from Parish registers unfortunately. A lot of it has come from other Fewell family members I have come across in the UK while doing this genealogy stuff. [My hubbies line comes down from Samuel by the way]. Here's what I have re children of William Fewell and Margaret Twinn.
Mary Ann chr 17.03.1776 Great Waltham, Essex marr James Rumsey 1800.
William chr 24.01.1779 Great Waltham.
James chr 26.10.1783 Great Waltham marr Anne Perrin 20.04.1804 Moreton, Essex.
Molly [?Melly] chr 18.06.1786 Great Waltham.
Samuel chr 01.03.1789 Great Waltham, died 1865 Chignall St James marr Sophia Childs 1809 Chignall St James.
John b abt 1790 marr Mary Ruffle 10.08.1812 Chignall St James.
Sophia chr 15.05.1791 Great Waltham marr Thomas Searle 14.11.1809 Great Waltham.
Unfortunately I have no other info on them at this time but will keep on searching.
How great to actually be in Essex to do the research, must make all this a lot easier.
Bye for now and pls stay in touch,
Julie :)
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Yes I will keep in touch. I have contacted a friend who has some of the Felsted PRs on fiche, to see if he can locate the 1768 marriage of William Fewell and Margaret Twinn also to check if any of their children were baptised in Felsted between 1768 and 1776. I know he hasn't a full set of Felsted fiche, I'm just hoping that he has fiche covering those dates, so fingers crossed!! :)
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Hi again, many thanks. I'm heading up to my local family history centre tomorrow for the day so hopefully something new will turn up.
bye, Julie :)
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Hi Julie & Findem
From IGI Essex:
Mary Fuel 17 Mar 1776 William & Margaret Fuel
William Fewel 24 Jan 1779 William & Margaret Fewel
James Fewell 26 Oct 1783 William & Margaret Fewell
Melly Fuel 18 June 1786 William & Margaret Fuel
Samuel Fuel 1789 William & Margaret Fuel
Sophie Fuel 15 May 1791 William & Margaret Fuel
Before finding them on IGI last week, I had heard of them before and Milic is another child. (I wondered if it was Milie) although she is not in the IGI for Essex, I did find a marriage of Milic Fewel married to William Eve 9 July 1804 Gt Waltham.
Also there is a Samuel living in Writtle in the 1861 census aged 72.
Hope this helps.
Sue
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Hi Susie1,
Thanks a lot for the info, I had previously confirmed the baptisms of William, Melly, Samuel & Sophia in parish registers but still have the other two from the IGI to confirm, Mary & James, also a John abt 1790 mentioned by Julied. Very interested to hear of Milic (could be Milicent) who married William Eve because I have an Eve line at Gt Waltham and High Easter. I haven't a found a William Eve in my line but then I don't pretend to have found all of them. Around the time Milic Fewell and William Eve were born my Eves were being baptised at High Easter but there are gaps!
Where did you find Milic ? Out of interest I would like to find out where she was born/baptised.
Do you have any Eves or Fewells in your tree?
Findem :)
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Hi Findem
Milic's marriage I found on the Essex IGI, while going throught the fiche last week. But, I have seen the name before somewhere and at the moment I can't remember where. It was in a list along with all the other children. If I remember I will let you know.
I am doing the Fewell line, and at the moment have been trying to put all the births, marriages and deaths I have found in Great Canfield in some kind of order.
I think I have got our link back to John who married Elizabeth Lanham in
1768. John was not born in Great Canfield, or at least I can't find a birth but all his children were.
When I started with the Fewell's they were living in Edmonton area, but traced them back to Great Canfield.
Which line are you doing?
Sue
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Hi Sue & Findem, like you I also remember coming across this Milic [it's a name you don't easily forget]. Don't know where she fits in yet. There are just so many Fewells. Will stay in touch and keep on searching though. Where r u both by theway?
Julie :)
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Hi Julie
I'm from Manchester, uk. Bit difficult doing Essex from up here, so I rely on fiche.
Sue
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Hi Julie & Susie,
I'm originally from Chelmsford, Essex but now living in New South Wales, Australia, OK Julie, now you know where Susie and I are from, so where are you located ?
Susie, if you check my post of 4/6/04 it will explain my line and save me writing it again (I'm a slow typer). Haven't heard yet from the friend in the UK who has some of the Felsted PR fiche, so I'm hoping that means he does have the relevant fiche to do my Fewell/Twinn etc lookup !!.
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The more I think about Millic Fewell who married William Eve 9 Jul 1804 at Gt Watham (per IGI) the more convinced I am that Millic and Melly baptised 18/6/1786 at Gt Waltham are one and the same. I seem to recall that my wife and I struggled a bit with the baptism entry writing before deciding on Melly, perhaps it was a dodgey i that looked like an e. It's a shame I didn't photocopy the register entry so I could now recheck it. When I'm able, I'll recheck it in the PR and also look at the marriage entry. I will in the meantime chase up my original notes to see if I commented on any difficulty in deciphering Melly.
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Hi guys, I've been wondering whether Milic isn't Milicent, not that I can find find another listing of that name anywhere, oh this all gets so frustrating at times!! I'm in Brisbane by the way [meant to put that in last night, sorry].
Julie :)
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Hi
I've gone through everything I've got and can't find anything else on Milic, only the marriage. So I thing your right and Melly and Milic are the same person. At least the names are similar.
I had a birth for a Harry and then nothing else and lots of info on a George but no birth. It turned out they were the same person.
Sue
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Hi Julie & Sue, My friend has confirmed the marriage, William Fewell married Margaret Twin (as spelt, no double n) 3 May 1768 at Felsted, in the presence of Edward Connell & Thos Green. He found no children of theirs in Felsted, he also checked a Gt Waltham fische and confirms the children we already have. The Mary Ann you mentioned is only shown as Mary in the register fische but the date is correct. Another entry in the Gt Waltham Baptism Register fische read "........... of William & Margaret Fewell baptised Jan 20 1770". My friend wrote that the name part of the entry was not illegible, or crossed out, it was just blank. It begs the question was this a still-born child? I wonder whether the original Gt Waltham register could contain an explanatory note somewhere which hasn't been put on the fische? So apart from the unnamed 1770 entry in Gt Waltham there are no baptisms in Felsted & Gt Waltham between 1768 & 1776 , so where were William & Margaret between 1770 & 1776?. Bit of a mystery there at the moment, unless of course they abstained for a while.
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Findem,hello, thanks so much for this new piece of info - the plot thickens as they say!! How interesting this other child. I must say though I had wondered why the 8 year gap till what we thought was the first child [Mary Ann] born. Not the usual thing for those times I've found. Even with this still-birth there is still another 6 year gap till Mary Ann. Perhaps they had other children elsewhere, guess we'll have to do more detective work here. Till next time,
cheers,
Julie :)
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Hi. Just to add to the confusion.
I was looking for the name Yell on the IGI this morning and it told me to look under other names, one of which was Jewel. When I looked, there was William Jewell m Margaret 21 Jan 1770 Gt Waltham.
Now the marriages of Takeley I got off the net had Jewel's in and some of them I believe are Fewells. So is this another Fewell, or is it really Jewell and the birth of a stillborn on 20 Jan 1770 is that a Fewell or should it be a Jewell!!!!!
Sue
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Thanks a heap for adding to the confusion Susie, we need that like a hole in the head!!, there was already more than enough to go round. Seriously though it does look as though some careful rechecking is required "just in case". Apart from that Jewell versus Fewell thing, we still have a 6 year gap to contend with, so as you say Julie there must be children baptised elsewhere (at least a Margaret). I can't imagine them being celibate for six years, especially as there was no Telly in those days. It will be great to get this business sorted and be able to move on to determining the next ancestor. He I believe will be a William Fewell son of William & Hannah, baptised 5 Feb 1744 at Gt Waltham. Being baptised in 1744, he looks promising for the William who married Margaret Twin in 1768, subject to passing tests such as did he die before 1768 or marry someone else.
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Sue and Findem, thanks for giving me a good giggle with your replies, we obviously need to widen our search now don't we.
Julie
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I reckon you are right about widening our Fewell search. I have tried the IGI for Fewell clues but haven't come up with anything that I can see as useful, no doubt it is there staring me in the face. I must one of these days get myself a copy of the British Vital Records disc, it might be more forthcoming than the IGI, not only for Fewell but other family names. Well my wife is waiting for her turn on the net, so I guess it's the Telly for me. ;D
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Hi all,
Found an interesting "Fewells of Essex" site run by Trevor Fewell, it has Fewells we are interested in also the Chignall St James connection. The URL is www.trevorfewell.clara.net/ well worth a look.
I obtained the URL from Annemarie Shuttle, her site is also worth looking at has loads of different surnames plus Fewell, I'll sort out her URL and put it on the Essex board.
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no surprises:
RG9/1080/100
same household **
james fewell head age 38 agr lab
elizabeth wife age 40
william son agr lab
george son age 13
henry son age 11
charlotte dau age 8
lucy dau age 5
mary dau age 3
james son age 1
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**apologies, i couldnt find the exact adress- is between OAK HALL/CHIGNALL Hall, enumerator [william barker]only gives names of public houses, halls & other larger buildings.but is in line with several buildings named Brick so it could be Brick road?
An earlier find,Thomas Fewell age 51 incidently,was a shoemaker RG9/1080/99 and his son Thomas G.Fewell was agr lab
hope this helps
jaq
This is my family!! George aged 13 is my ggrandfather.
My name is kath and i was born fewell. Findem told me about this site and i am in touch with Julied to ( Julie sent the certificates to you today). Julie in a previous post you said that you were not sure if this is the correct family, i am 99.9% sure it is as there was only one other George born in 1848 and that was to William Fewell and Anne Stanley at White Roothing.
Just to let you know i live 30 minsutes from Chignall st james and chelmsford and i have been to the church at felsted, unfortunately the doors on the church are locked unless you go on a Sunday to listen to the vicar preach etc. I have emailed the vicar asking for a meeting so i can view the PR's, but had no reply as yet. Have also asked Essex County council how much it will cost to have the marriages from the period of 1768 on fiche that was a week ago and still no reply GRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!.
Millic Fewell is Millicent Fewell she married William Eve in 1804. I am also inclined to beleive Millicent is also one in the same as Melly too, but need obviously to prove this somehow.
Jaq on the records you have for William Fewell and Margaret Twin(n)'s Marriage does it have their ages? please.
I now have a website with my line of Fewell's (and Julie's) the address is
http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/kathdownes
please do let me know if there is any info that needs adding or you feel is incorrect.
Kath in Sad Essex ( as England have just lost to Portugal in the European Cup)
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Hi Julie, Sue, Jaq, Kath and Trevor,
Has anyone searched the Chignall St James Parish Registers to check if William Fewell and Margaret Twin baptised any children there, either between 1770 and 1776 or after 1791? I know you won't have Jaq but you remarked that you have become attached to the Fewell family so I didn't want you to feel left out ;D
PS If you haven't registered on RootsChat yet Trevor, it's time you did ;)
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Hi to Julied, Susie1, Findem and the delightfully named Essexbird 2004 ! I feel like I know you all already !
Anyway, Julied - I've got the C St J records on fiche and no entries before 1804 that I can remember (the marriage of Mary was the first entry) - and I often wonder if Samuel met somebody through her, or moved there because she was there already. I'll try to check - but my records are still recovering from a bad virus attack (that should give it away!). I am certain about no earlier entries though.
I was once given some sketchy outlines of removal orders by a contact called Glyn - I'm sure that one was for a Willliam to/from something Parva. Could be our man. Maybe one of you have them too - or now have greater details. Mustn't forget that the country was starving around William's time ... food riots and all, so he may well have had to move around just to survive. The good old days eh ??
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Welcome MiddleEnglander.
From memory I believe that Gt Waltham, was once called Waltham Parva. I have read that once people could no longer support themselves and were to go on to Parish Relief, they were removed to the the Parish where they were baptised. Thanks for the Chignall St James info.
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HI all
Jaq would it be possible for you to check the 1861 census for me again please for
james fewell bc1843 chignal st james
have no idea who his parents are.
thanx in advance
Kath xx
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Hi Essexbird ....
Are you talking about James born 31.7.1842 - son of Samuel and Elizabeth Fewel (yes, only one 'l' in my notes from the parish records !) ?? Hope this helps the links.
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Thanx trevor
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Kath xx
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Trevor
Do you know which samuel and Elizabeth this is. Is their a maiden name for Elizabeth at all??
Kath xxx
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wouldnt happen to have a marriage for samuel and Elizabeth would you please Trevor my dear ;)
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My pleasure.
This has just come through in the normal way from Sue ...
Settlement Examination.
William Fewell the elder, From Great Dunmow to Easton Parva Year 1777 ref 11/13/4
This is what I was trying to remember Glyn sending. With what we now know it could be really important. The phrase 'William the elder' is very interesting. Could this explain what happened to William and Hannah I wonder ?
Anybody know what records the ref refers to and if anybody has it ??
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Think this is a ref from Seax
D/P 11/13/4 Examinations
Calendar available
1693 - 1777
Sue
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Thanks for that piece of info Sue & M E, I knew that it was connected with the Resettlement Act, also the reference is that which you use to order the original document for viewing at the ERO and that's about the sum of my knowledge. I have never used them myself but I think for a few troublesome ancestors I may have to start.
So it looks like William Fewell the elder was baptised in Great Easton (I think Parva is eqivalent to great) perhaps it is the clue we need. "William the elder" certainly looks like a good candidate for the William who married Hannah and produced the William baptised 1744 at Felsted. also if no other children of William & Hannah are found in Felsted, Gt Dunmow might be worth a look.
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Thanks Susie and Findem ...
As soon as I saw your note, Sue, the penny dropped. It is of course the SEAX document reference. I've used ERO - because of the density of information on fiche you get a tremendous amount of information for a very modest price ..... the only trouble is the wait (about 6 weeks).
So, the question is where from here ? I think I'll mail Glyn to see if there was any more backgound. Maybe a member of this forum has access to a copy already.
The Dunmow link has got to be worth following - according to my reasearches and databases such as Boyds, there seems to have been a slow migration of the Fewells eastwards and southwards from around Thaxted and Takeley starting in the 1600s - so Dunmow looks bang on track.
Anybody got copies of the Dunmow registers ?
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Sorry ladies - I missed your messages about Samuel and Elizabeth.
Samuel Fewel (one 'l' again) married Elizabeth Johnson on 31st October 1835 at Chignall St James. Witnesses were Thos Farmer and John*than Childs.
I think it's fair to assume that Samuel was son of Samuel Fewel and Sophia Childs and was born 1816.
Hope this helps
Trevor
x x x
:)
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Hi All
Firstly Thanx Trevor for the info on above post ;D much appreciated.
I have found another of James Fewell and Elizabeth Turner's children
below is an extract from a post by Jaq
RG9/1080/100
same household **
james fewell head age 38 agr lab
elizabeth wife age 40
william son agr lab
george son age 13
henry son age 11
charlotte dau age 8
lucy dau age 5
mary dau age 3
james son age 1
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**apologies, i couldnt find the exact adress- is between OAK HALL/CHIGNALL Hall, enumerator [william barker]only gives names of public houses, halls & other larger buildings.but is in line with several buildings named Brick so it could be Brick road?
An earlier find,Thomas Fewell age 51 incidently,was a shoemaker RG9/1080/99 and his son Thomas G.Fewell was agr lab
hope this helps
jaq
I was 99% sure this was the right family for me ( & Julie)
so i had a look on 1837online to find all the births for the names above.
I applied for Henry's birth cert which came back today and also for Charlotte's ( am still waiting for that one)
here are the details of Henry's Birth.
Henry Fewell born 31/8/1850 Chignall st James
parents James fewell and elizabeth turner.
james down as labourer
X the mark of elizabeth fewell
actually it has turner then that's been crossed out and fewell's been put also the number 31 next to the crossing out.
birth registered 15/9/1850.
will let you know abot Charlotte when i get it
hope u r all well
I gotta go shoppin' now be back later
Kath xxx
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Hi All, I was checking the Takeley transcripts yesterday to see if there were any additions. One of the Fuell baptisms caught my eye, Millicent Fuell bap 13 Jan 1754, bearing in mind the 1786 Melly or Milli etc at Gt Waltham, there must be a connection somewhere between the Takeley, Felsted and Gt Waltham Fewells. It certainly adds weight to MiddleEnglander's comments about an east and south migration from the Takeley Thaxted area. Perhaps all we have to do is find an earlier Millicent Fewell and work back, simple ;D
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Hi All ;D
Just to let you know that i now have the birth Cert for Charlotte Fewell and she was also James Fewell and Elizabeth Turners child, so 100% positive Jaq had the right family on the 1861 census!
Also i am off to the records office on the 21/7/04 with me mum so will be printing off the emails you have all sent to see what i can find! Please don't expect to much from me as it's my first time there and i have just found out i am having a baby so i am extemely tired especially come midday, so my concentration won't be 100% ( that's why Mum is coming LOL)
Here are Charlotte Fewell's Birth details for you all
Charlotte Fewell Born 5th May 1853 , chignall St james, father James Fewell , Labourer, Mother Elizabeth Fewell formally Turner. X the mark of Elizabeth Fewell Mother of Chignall st james, registered 15/6/1853 ;D
well TTFN and speak to you all soon
Kath xx
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Hi Kath,
Well, I can guarantee that you will have a fantastic day at the ERO. I have said this before, but worth repeating, the staff at the ERO are very, very friendly and enjoy what they are doing, as can be seen by their enthusiasm for helping people and making sure they are welcome.
They will make sure you know how to operate the various readers, and I have seen them helping newcomers with their research too, I am very impressed with these guys (and ladies), and I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
It is nice to shower some praise on the people who can be bothered, a bit like this site, of which I place at a very high level of esteem. Me, I'm just the gardener. What??
Enjoy, and well done for the new family on the way.
Best
Kevan
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Regarding my post of Tues 29 June 04, I mentioned that I thought the place William Fewell had been resettled to (Easton Parva) was Great Easton, it is in fact Little Easton, I've just managed to find my booklet "Simple Latin for Family Historians". I apologise if I have mislead anyone, I have looked for someone else to blame but no luck ;D
I had already planned to search Little Easton in the same time frame for my Searles ancestors at the ERO in October, so I can do both at one hit now.
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Hi everyone, hope all's well with you all. Kath, congratulations on your great news, I'm really pleased for you. Apologies to everyone for not joining in the chat recently but my eldest daughter is getting married next Saturday so have been rather preoccupied as you can imagine. The genealogy has been put aside for the present [very hard to do but I've just had no time], will get back into it again shortly.
Bye for now,
Julie :)
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Good luck with the wedding plans Julie, hope your daughter has a great day and that the sun shines for her.
Glad you put a post on the board it proved that the problem I had i.e. not receiving notification of posts, has been fixed, Susie1 had the same problem.
To all the Fewell mob!! MiddleEnglander has put me in touch with two people who are researching Searles, I have heard from one, he has the same Searles line as myself and so of course has Sophia Fuel as an ancestor. I continue to be amazed at how this Fewell connection is snowballing ::) ;D
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Hi Findem
Yes, I got notification of that one as well, glad to see the problem is fxed.
Great news about more links to your side of the Fewell's. I just wish I could find someone doing my line. I did contact someone from Gencom called Parker, a few weeks ago, because I am sure his wifes line is one of Philomons brothers, but he never replied.
I would of thought the amount of brothers and sisters Philomon had that someone else would be doing it.
Sue
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Regarding my last post, the other person has now contacted me and although there is every chance her Searles will eventually link with mine I believe her Searles line will bypass the Fewell connection.
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Hi Findem .....
Good to hear that the Searles group has been expanded once more. Please pass my best regards to the 'essex man' and the 'lady from oz' ... I look forward to hearing how you get along - and seeing them come online at this brilliant resource.
Aye
Middle Englander
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Hi Sue,
Regarding your Philomon, have you thought about posting a topic under the title Philomon Fewell, it might just ring a bell in someone's mind.
If you are a member of the Essex Society for Family History you can put a help request in the magazine for quite a modest amount, there are quite a few researchers who are not "computerised". :)
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Hi Findem
OK, thanks, I've done that, it's worth a try. I have posted it under Essex on here and also on Gencom. Nobody seems to be using gencom now, the last message was posted by me back in June.
Sue
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Hi All
First off Thanx Kevan for the support and advice!
Secondly, i have just had a look at all the messages and i have not received one of them, i checked my notify thing and it is on so what is happening, seeing as the last post was yesterday!!!!!
Julie hope the wedding went well and thanx :)
As you know i am off to th ERO in about 8 hours from now, i will look at Little Easton after i have tried to confirm that William fewell of felstead is the son of william and hannah.
Sue, i have got the info you have sent to me on the fuel's from takeley and will try and check that to for you!
Wish me luck , i think i will need it, especially as it's the kids last day of term today so this will be the only chance i get until they go back to school in sept.
Findem, when you come over in October,let me know, would be a good time for me also to go back to the ERO if you fancy some company. Nearer the time i will send you my phone number, Maybe the rest of the Fewell lot can come to!!
Well be in touch soon with what ever i find out. I will send it by email and then post it on here.
Do hope i start getting replys to these messages !!
Kath xxxx
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Hi Kath,
Yes to company Kath, a bit nearer the time I hope to have an idea of what days I can go in (as many as possible).
As for the "no notification" of posts I'm in the same boat, the other day I did't get a notifcation of a post, I contacted the moderator, then I got a notification and thought problem solved. Now I'm back to square one because I wasn't notified of your post :( ;D looks like a glitch.
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Hiya
Well i got a notification of your post just now hahaha.
Depending on how far i can waddle with my bump come october depends on how many days i can make it to the ERO with you , but i will make at least one day (promise). But hopefully more as i have other surnames on hubbys side to check out to.
Will email you later with any info i can find out about the fewell's
Gonna look at the thaxted records to if i get a chance cos middleenglander has a gut feeling that in someway the fewells of chignall st james and great waltham etc are connected, so i will see what i can find.
I have copied down your tips you sent so thanx very much for them.
will chat soon
Kath xxx
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Hi Kath,
Something has just occured to me, since my friend couldn't find the marriage at Felsted of William & Hannah (parent's of William Fewell baptised 1744 Felsted), who knows perhaps the marriage is at Thaxted.
By the way now I'm getting notification again, weird!!
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Good luck with your searches today Kath.
I havn't been getting notification either, but I have just got this one. Hope they sort it out soon.
Sue
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Hi Sue and the rest of the Fewell hunting crew ....
I've just had much of the information that I was after concerning the settlement of 'William the Elder' come in from another source (thanks Pam).
For the record, details of the settlement are as follows:
The Examination dated 17th July 1777
He was born in the parish of Takely had before Michaelmas day taken employment with George Gaynor of Little Eiston for a year and a day and received full wages therefore that is his place of settlement.
The removal order with the same date lists William Fewell the elder, Elizabeth his wife, his children, William aged 13 years, Mary aged 12, Thomas aged 6 and John aged 4.
All were sent to Little Easton from the parish of Great Dunmow.
I'm pretty sure that this is the William who married Elizabeth Green at Takeley in 1761. None of his children are on my website yet - so it shows that we need some of the records for the Dunmow area. Hmmm.
Not my line unfortunately, but I hope this helps somebody else in the future.
All the Best
MiddleEnglander
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Hi MiddleEnglander
The only problem with this is the only children on the baptisms for Takely for William & Elizabeth Fuell are:
John b 1769 & Elizabeth b 1771. And on the children you mentioned John was age 4 in 1777.
Sue
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Hi All,
It appears as though William and Elizabeth may only have been in Takeley long enough to have two children baptised there, John 22 Jan 1769 and Elizabeth 21 Apr 1771, John must have died somewhere between 1769 and 1773, hence the second John born abt 1773. So where were the other four born, obviously Lt Easton and Gt Dumow are both likely places and as the two children baptised at Takeley were the middle two of the six children, perhaps three or more parishes are involved. It seems that the more info we find, the bigger the puzzle becomes. :(
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Hi Findem et al .....
Sounds like a good hypothesis to me. All we need now is a kind person who can help us with the Dunmow / Easton records !
Jaq or kevan are you out there?? ! Help ! Any ideas of anybody with these records ??
Even if we started with the 1841 0r 51 census and worked back we would be covering new ground - there has been very little done in those areas so far that I'm aware of.
As you say, the mystery deepens.
Aye
T
PS - Anybody heard how Essexbird got along at the ERO ?
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Hi,
I have Thaxted CMB on fiche from 1693 to 1805, what are you looking for in these. I thought it would take longer to scan through all the chat/s.
Best
Kevan
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Hi MiddleEnglander
I gave you everything I found on Dunmow area for 1841, a couple of weeks ago.
Sue
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Hi Sue ....
So you did. Need to get my brain in gear !
If I remember correctly it didn't give us many links - I'll go back and have another look straight away.
So it looks like we need a kind soul who has some of the parish records for the 1700's data. If nothing comes up in the next few days I'll look at ordering them from the ERO. There are quite a few though.
Thanks again for the Dunmow info.
Aye
T
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You will have a long wait, I'm still waiting for Takeley fische.
Sue
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Hi All,
If the Lt Easton check is not carried out by early September, I will be over in Essex for around 5 weeks from early September and able to do it, I have Searles searches to do in Gt & Lt Easton PRs so I could extend the search dates to include Fewells. I can't make any promises to search Gt Dunmow because I have a list of PRs to search as long as my arm. I won't of course be in the ERO all of the 5 weeks but I'll be treading the fine line between research and staying married, tough decision!. 8) ;D Luckily, June doesn't read these posts.
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Kevan ....
I'm just getting my head around Thaxted.
A couple of us seem to be missing William Fewells born around 1720 in particular. We've tried Takeley and the Canfields - but no luck in finding them. Thaxted and Dunmow are the missing areas of our search.
I'm after a William who married a lady thought be called Hannah - they look prime candidates to be the parents of my ggg grandfather, William Fuell b1744 at Felstead.
I know from a record on SEAX that there was an Isaac Fuell in Thaxted in the early - mid 1700's (he had his house repossessed !) but have no real records of any others.
There are a couple of very early entries in Boyds and the Takeley PRs which give Fewells linked to Thaxted too. I'm talking about 1670 here.
So ...... any chance of a quick scan through the Thaxted records for the period, say, 1693 to 1730 ish please ???
aye
ME
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Hi everyone :) my you have all been busy chatting while I've been doing the wedding thing. It went really well, [ I cried too much but that's a 'mum thing' I think]. Anyway, back to this. Kath I've just been looking thru your web page and have noted you have a Sarah Fewell b 1863 as a child of James Fewell and Elizabeth Turner - first time I've come across her or have I missed her somewhere? Hope you're all keeping well, bye for now,
Julie
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Hi all,
At the end of this month I'll be on my way to Essesx and the ERO, so I thought now is a good time to catch up with the Fewell saga.
I will be doing some verification work on William Fewel son of William & Hannah baptised 5 Feb 1744 at Felsted, I feel there is a pretty good chance he is the husband of Margaret Twin. The only other info I have concerning William is that his parents do not appear to have married in Felsted.
Does anyone have info which might save me from doubling up on work already carried out etc.
Where are we with the Gt & Lt Easton search, has there been any progress made?
Any comments/thoughts?
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Hi Findem et al ....
It's all gone very quiet out there ! How did you get on in your searches while visiting the UK Findem ??
There's a whole bunch of us sitting out here in hyperspace just dying to find out if you found any clues as to William (b1744) Fuel's parentage. Any luck ??
I look forward to hearing from you soon - no matter what the news !
Aye
MiddleEnglander
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Hi All,
We arrived back in Oz Saturday night, now more or less over the jet lag so here are the results of my Fewell checks at Felsted and Gt Waltham.
I confirmed the Felsted PR entry for William Fuell son of William & Hannah baptised 5 Feb 1744 at Felsted. Also carried out a marriage search for him in Felsted and Gt Waltham PRs, the only William Fewell/Fuel marriage found was the one to Margaret Twin in 1768 at Felsted. Now that I've carried out those checks I'm personally satisfied that the William son of William & Hannah baptised 5 Feb 1744 is the husband of Margaret Twin. How about the rest of you, do you agree? or do you have doubts?
I also checked in Felsted and Gt Waltham PRs 1743 to 1757 for any siblings of William and found none, other than the the child with no name baptised 1770.
As for the marriage of William Hannah I didn't find it at Felsted or Gt Waltham, quite a disappointment but that's life I suppose. Unfortunately due to the load of research I had to get through I wasn't able to check out surrounding villages to find the marriage. Just kicked myself because I believe I omitted to check Boyds Marriage Index to see if there was a William & Hannah Fewell marriage around 1743 listed, stupid I know.
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Hi Findem ....
Good to have you back safe and well.
Sounds like you were extremely busy when over - I just hope you had time to enjoy the cold, dank, weather while you were here !
More seriously, I think you've done a great job ... thanks for sharing the results with us all. I'm as convinced as I think I'll ever be that William s of William and Hannah is 'our' William.
The hunt is on for William and Hannah I guess - and to this end I've already put out a few pleas. I'm still hoping for something to come from the Thaxted or Dunmow records but they're proving to be rather elusive.
Thanks again ......
ME
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I have only just registered on the site & have replied to another Fewell discussion. My Patermal Grandmother was a Chignall Fewell youngest of 13 children by Arthur & Harriett. Before he died 18 months ago my Father (Walter Mills) researched the family tree. He got back to Robert Fewell married april 1581 in Suffolk. He has William (Married to Margaret Twinn in1768 Felstead 7 children) to be the son of Philip Fewell married to Ann Judd in 1736 (1 child No places noted) He in turn was one of 2 children of John Fewell who married Elizabeth Green in 1707 in Dunmow. Before that are 2 Daniels (father & son) from Thaxted who lead to Giles Fewell (b1582) son of the Robert mentioned earlier from Suffolk. I only have the "tree" as the disc and research is at my mother's in Broomfield, Essex. when I have time I will try and get the programme to open and access Dad's work. He was born in Chignall St James and after taking early retirement trained as a minister and was Vicar of Chignall Smeally for several years.
I hope this is of use to you!
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Hi Trevor ....
It's great to hear from you - although I'm saddened to hear of your father, Walter's, passing. Although I did not communicate with him directly, I've seen his messages on GenForum and my elder brother (James) communicated with him for many years regarding the Fewell line. Your father did some fantastic work(much of it before the internet revolutionized genealogy) - and many of the subscribers to this forum are indebted to him in that we are descended from William and Margaret and used much of Walter's research (directly or indirectly) to help map our own trees.
Because so many of us are descended from William and Margaret - especially their son Samuel (who married Sophia Childs at Chignal St James) any further data you can pass on will be eagerly received. In particular, and as you can see by the exchanges above, we are all desperately keen to firmly establish who William of Felstead's parents actually were. We'd just started to think that, after years of research by many people (including your father) we had discovered that William's parents were called William and Hannah ... not Philip and Ann. Ho hum the joys of genealogy eh !! ??
I must confess that I like the thought that William was from the Takeley / Dunmow area - and from my researches Philip and Ann are one of the few likely couples to have been his parents had this been the case (I can't find a suitable William - with or without a wife called Hannah anywhere .... yet, at least.) One of the problems has been that there is a black-spot of nearly a decade in the Takeley records - where the vicar (rather anti socially or slothfully) decided not to bother keeping them. Needless to say this is the decade in which 'William of Felstead' would probably have been born. Anything that you are prepared to share with us regarding this critical part of the tree would therefore be truly appreciated.
Once again, it's great to hear from you .... and know that Walter's works are not lost to us.
Aye
Trevor (aka ME)
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Hi Trevor
I read your message and thought this was probably Trevor's line and now I see he has replied to you.
I have got back to a John Fewell who married Elizabeth Lanham in 1768 Great Canfield. But as there is a great lump missing out of the Great Canfield records, like Trevor said where the vicar didn't enter anything, this is where I have hit a brick wall. There are 2 of us going up this line, and we can't get any further, so if when you go through your records you come across anything on this couple, and who John's parents are, any info would be gratefully received.
Thanks
Sue
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Hi Trevor,
It was very exciting to read your post.
My Fewell line from William & Margaret is via their daughter Sophia who married Thomas Searles in 1809 at Gt Waltham.
A friend with some of the Felsted PRs on microfich had supplied me with the possible baptism of William (husband of Margaret Twinn), William son of William & Hannah Fewell bap 5 Feb 1744 at Felsted. Last year whilst in the UK and of course the ERO I spent time on William Fewell, and verified that baptism but failed to find any siblings or the marriage of William & Hannah. In addition to baptisms and marriages I also checked burials, I couldn't find a burial for William (did I miss it?) prior to his marriage to Margaret Twinn. As you would have noted up until your post I was convinced that the 1744 William is the William who married Margaret, now the picture changes.
No doubt your father found the William of William and Hannah baptised 1744, when you get the opportunity could you see if there are any notes regarding that William?
Thanks for making contact .
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Thanks guys for your swift responses. I only have one large print out of "tree2 at present. It has William, marrying Mgt Twinn in Felstead, 1768 at age 29. By back counting that makes DOB 1739 (ish), which is three years after Philip Fewell & Ann Judd married in Dunmow with only 1 child produced. Dad had ???? for DOB of William and Philip. As you know there are alot of parishes within 15 miles of Dunmow/Thaxted. Interestingly the Fewells that Dad has recorded on this Tree above Philip (?father of William) are all noted as having only one child each (?accurate or assumtion of his computer programme). which could make the number of fewells around in Essex potentailly less pre 1760. I am back at Mum's at easter and will see what I can find of Dad's details on Philip or another older William.
Trevor M (Nottingham Uk by the way)
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Hi Trevor,
In your last post you stated that Philip and Ann Fuell/Fewell married at Dunmow, was that a typing error?, the on-line Takeley PR Transcripts show them as marrying at Takeley 26 Dec 1736.
The Takeley PR transcripts also show that Philip & Anne Fuell had a son William baptised 12 Nov 1737 at Takeley and a daughter Millicent baptised 13 Jan 1754 but no children between those dates, I wonder where Philip and Ann went between 1737 and 1754, Dunmow perhaps? The name Millicent rings a bell doesn't it?, we know William and Margaret Fewell named a child Me(i)lly, all of a sudden it all makes sense. 8)
Something else on the transcripts for Takeley I believe raises a question, there is an entry for the marriage at Takeley of William Juell (an error, should be Fuell) married Elizabeth Green 7 Dec 1767. Five Months later a William Fuell married Margaret Twinn 3 May 1768 at Felsted.
I would be interested to know how:-
a) we can be sure that William Fuell son of Philip & Ann moved from Takeley to marry Margaret Twinn at Felsted in 1768 and therefore is not the William Juell (Fuell) who married Elizabeth Green at Takeley in 1767?
b) we can be sure that William (baptised 5 April 1744 Felsted) of William and Hannah did not stay in Felsted and marry Margaret Twinn?
Any ideas anyone?
The fact that William of Philip and Ann had a sister Millicent gives some support to him being the husband of Margaret Twinn, unless both Williams had an ancestor (in common?) or a relative named Millicent to cause both of them to name a child Millicent.
I was going to ask that if we accept William of Philip and Ann married Margaret Twinn, do we assume that William Fuell of William and Hannah went to Takeley and married Elizabeth Green but then I thought it would confuse matters so forget I mentioned it ;D
I noted two children for William and Elizabeth Fuell/Juell baptised at Takeley, John Fuell 22 Jan 1769 and Elizabeth Fuell 21 Apr 1771.
By the way there is an Elizabeth of William and Mercy Green baptised 1741 in the Takeley transcripts, also her parents marriage.
Regards.
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Hi All,
In case anyone has already read my previous post, I have since modified it to destroy evidence of a blunder I made, hopefully you were all tucked up in bed and so haven't seen it :-[
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:) Hi all! Nice to have everyone back chatting again, seems ages since anyone had anything new to add. Trevor Mills, hi and thank you for your info. I know I love getting new bits of info on this Fewell mob.
Findem thanks for the info on the Takeley transcripts.
Bye for now.
Julie [in Oz]
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I agree it is nice to have people chatting again, it seems everyone has come to a full stop.
So I thought I’d post this and see if any one can help:
Philomon had two son’s called James, one bap 1805 and one in 1812 in Great Canfield.
I thought maybe the 1805 had died and they named another James, but I can’t find a death.
On the 1841 census there is a James age 35 with wife Elizabeth and children: Sarah, Mary, Jane & Issac.
On the 1861 census there is a James age 59, no wife, with children: William, Susannah & Stephen.
On the 1871 census James age 66, no wife, with children: William & Stephen
On the 1881 census James age 78 is just with son William.
James then died 1888 and in the 1891 census there is an Issac and Stephen living together, as lodgers. All these census are of Great Canfield.
But as there is no 1851 census to see if James is with wife Elizabeth and who the children are, I’m stuck. I think they might be the same James, but with more children. The trouble is even the James of the 1861, 71 and 81 census couldn’t decide how old he was.
Has anyone come across any info on James from Great Canfield please.
Sue
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Hi All,
I had a look at Takeley burials to see if I could find the age of William from a burial entry in order to see which is which. Guess what? no luck at all, :( no Williams at all under Fewell or Fuell, there were two named William Jewel, one buried 1797 the other 1807, neither had an age attached. Oh well them's the breaks.
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Are any of you interested in or researching the Fewell family who were in Leaden Roding from about 1859?
I am descended from William who married Hannah Morrell in 1851 in High Roding. William was born in Dunmow according to census returns and the IGI but I have details of him with his parents and siblings in Great Canfield in the 1841 census. His parents were John Fewell and Maria Clarke.
Most of my own research has been from 1841 onwards but I do have some data from other researchers.
Think I have probably been in contact with one of you about a John Fewell born about 1830.
Barbara F
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Hi Barbara
Yes 2 of us are doing this Fewell tree. I have spoken to you in the past. I eventually found my John. I have your William & Hannah with 8 children is that right? Williams father is John, Johns father is Charles and Charles father is John.
Sue
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Hello again Sue
Yes, you have the right William.
How does your John fit in - or is he from an entirely different part of the Fewell family?
Barbara
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Hi Barbara
He's Philomons grandson.
Sue
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Hi All,
Hope you don't mind my bringing this thread to life again, Middle Englander has sent an email to Trevor Mills regarding the Fewell info on the computer belonging to the Trevor's father. I thought it best to have this thread nearer the "top of the page" so we can find it easier, also be good to have most of the Fewell info in one place.
M E asked the question: "Didn't your visit to the UK get us anywhere further with the William of Felsted (i.e. son of William and Hannah) scenario ? No signs of intervening deaths or marriages ???" Here is my reply, sorry it's so long winded:-
As for the William Fewell saga, unfortunately the Trevor Mills post (bombshell) came on 13th of March 05. This was quite some time after I had arrived back in Oz so I couldn't look into it, not that I have any idea what to do anyway.
Adding some weight to dropping William son of William & Hannah Fewell as a possible husband of Margaret Twinn is that William & Margaret appear to have had only one child, William, baptised in Felsted. Which probably means they moved out of Felsted to parts unknown. That could rule the Felsted born William out of the picture although not necessarily so, some families did only have one child for various reasons. Then again William, Hannah and family could have moved back in at a later date putting their son William back in the running.
To add to the confusion is another Fewel family in Takeley, that of a Thomas & Elizabeth. According to the Takeley online transcripts they had 3 children baptised there, William and Thomas both baptised 17 Apr 1740 and John 3 Oct 1742.
In spite of all that I still lean more towards the Takeley William Fuell (Fewell) son of Philip & Ann bap 27 Apr 1737. Mainly because of the occurence of the name Milly, Melly, Millicent in the families of Philip & Ann of Takeley and William & Margaret.
There is something that may help and that is the burial details of William Fewell, husband of Margaret Twinn, should the burial entry contain William's age it may well resolve any doubts.
I’d like to have any critique you (or anyone) have, good or bad, of my comments on the William Fewell saga
Regards.
PS Susie1, have you found Philomon yet?
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Hi Findem
Happy New Year.
Yes, I found Philomon 1781, His parents are John Fewell d 10 dec 1794 and Elizabeth Lanham.
siblings: James 1768, Charles 1769, Elizabeth 1771, Ann 1773, Samuel 1775, Alice 1776, William 1778, Sarah 1783 and Lucy 1785.
The problem now is I can't find who John belonged to or where he was born. There are no records for Great Canfield for the period when he would have been born. Whoever the vicar was around that time, he never made any entries. Another vicar tried to fill in a bit of info at a later date, but not much.
He may not even have been born in Great canfield.
I have also considered Thomas & Elizabeth, with their children William, Thomas and John. The 1742 for John would have been about the right time.
John and Elizabeth Lanham married in 1768.
There was also a Thomas Fewell who married a Sarah Bacon, I think about 1777 whether this is the Thomas of Thomas and Elizabeth, I don't know.
I have been at a Brick wall for some time on this, unless anything appears for my John and Elizabeth, I don't think I will ever get back any further.
Sue
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Hi Sue,
Very pleased to see you found Philomon, don't give up on John, you'll get there.
I was looking at the online Takeley transcripts the other day so your mention of Thomas and Elizabeth rung a bell.
Thomas Fuell married Elisabeth Judd 20 July 1735 at Takeley.
I would imagine due to their close proximity their would have been a fair few interchanges between Takeley and the Canfields. Not sure but I believe there is evidence of just that occurrence in the Takeley transcripts.
If Thomas Fuell and Elisabeth Judd turn out to be your ancestors, your Fewells could link to mine in another way. I mentioned in my previous post that I favoured William of Philip and Ann as an ancestor, guess what Ann's maiden name was! Philip Fuell married Anne Judd 26 Dec 1736 at Takeley. I wonder......
Regards.
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Hi Findem
I will keep a close eye on your Fewells then in case you find something out. lol
This John before he married Elizabeth Lanham, was married to a Mary ? and they had one child John Fewell b 1766. But I havn't been able to find anything out about him, maybe he died.
Take care
Sue
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Hi Sue,
Let's just hope Trevor Mills reponds soon to Middle Englander's email, until that happens I suppose it's a question of "watch this space".
Regards
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Do you have any Eves or Fewells in your tree?
Findem :)
Hi, I have just discovered that I come from a line of Eve's from Felsted and later Little Goggleshall and Great Waltham. I go back to John Eve of Felsted in 1615. I would have thought that William Eve was related.
Regards,
Martin Eve
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Hi Martin,
I have both Eve and Fewell lines, I'll respond your Eve query in the Eve topic you have posted on this board.
My Fewell line currently is quite a short line, it looks as though it starts with a William Fewell, son of Philip Fewell and Anne Judd, baptised 27 April 1737 at Takeley. It is thought that he is the William Fuel/Fewell who married Margaret Twinn at Felsted in 1768. Their daughter Sophia married into my Searles line 14 Nov 1809 and there my Fewell line ends.
I and no doubt others would be very interested to see your Fewell tree, even if only a brief outline.
I'm not sure but I believe someone else on this board may have Lt Coggeshall Fewell links, if so let's hope they make contact.
Let me know if you think I have any info of interest, I'm happy to share my info.
Regards
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Hi All
Well i have been away far to long i do think.......
I am now so confused....
One thing that bothers me about this Takeley business is that on the Marriage Banns of William Fewell and Margaret Twin it say's he's from Great Waltham...does this mean he lived there at time of marriage or was born there??
I am off to the Record Office tomorrow (Friday)
Anyone want me to look up anything in Particular....
as for Milly/Melly/Millic/Millicent i thought she married William Eve in which case when you look up the children they had her name is down as AMELIA which Milly is short for....so the Millicent birth in Takeley could just be a coincidence.....or not???
and why did i not get any messages when the posts were posted i could have joined in ages ago i thought it was all quiet here LOL
Kath xx
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Was gonna start another thread but then thought none of you would know LOL
Went to the records office and i didn't find out anything much really to do with William Fewell
I can tell you he wasn't buried in Great Waltham between 1813-1865 but i didn't get time to look at the records from 1790 to 1812 i have to go back on Monday...
I did find something that did bemuse me a bit, i looked at Baxters Burials for Felsted
and guess what NO FEWELL/FUELL/FUEL all of them i found (21 of them) between 1813-1865 were SEWELL's now that surely can't be right
Another case of Mistranscription??
I will post on here what i found which may be of some use at a later date
On Monday i will be looking at the deaths/burials of Gt Waltham from about 1790-1812 to see if William died then, seeing as Sophia was baptised there in 1791 i am hoping the sod died there! and even if i do manage to find him knowing our luck there will be no age with him then we are back to square -247 :(
Kath xx
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Jack Baxters Marriages
Great Bardfield 1813-1865
William Fewel m.2/2/1827 Sarah Burges
Susan Fewell m.28/10/1826 Thomas Dawson
William Fewel (widower) m.7/5/1833 Ann Bowtle
Great Canfield 1813-1865
Elizabeth Fewel (minor with Consent of Parents) m.17/11/1821 William Nightingale
Catharine Fewel (minor with consent) m.24/12/1821 John Mason
James Fewell m.15/10/1825 Elizabeth Doe
John Fewell m.11/7/1827 Maria Clark (with consent)
Elizabeth Fewell m.24/2/1826 Thomas Clark of Hatfield Broad Oak
Ellen Fewell m. 13/8/1829 Charles Philpot
Chignal St James
Mary Fewel m.12/3/1836 Thomas Turnes
Samuel Fewel m.31/10/1835 Eliza Johnson
William Fewel m.27/3/1835 Ann Saltwell
Thomas Fewel m.24/12/1831 Mary Brewer
Sarah Fewel m.18/12/1830 John Riley (widower)
Black Notley 1813-1865
Thomas Fewel widower m.21/10/1813 Sarah Cheeke (Widow)
No Fewell's Elmsted,Great Easton 1813-1851,Little Bentley 1754-1813.....
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Jack Baxter Burials
No Fewell's Great Bentley 1813-1865,Good Easter 1813-1865
Great Easton 1813-1865
Sarah Furl of Great Dunmow 21/2/1818 aged 29
Daniel Fewell 13/1/1837 aged 87
Little Easton 1813-1865
Mary Fewell 10/1/1833 aged 65
Elizabeth Fewel 30/5/1827 aged 83
Great Canfield 1813 - 1865
Mary Fuel 26/3/1813 aged 57
Eleanor Fewel of Dunmow 14/6/1816 aged 34
Susannah Fewell 14/7/1817 aged 69
John Fewel of Dunmow 27/6/1818 aged 35
James Fewel of Gt. Dunmow 11/7/1821 aged 29
Mary Fewel 24/2/1822 aged 15
Philemon Fewel 8/6/1824 aged 43 (Sue is this your Philemon?)
John Fewell 21/6/1826 aged 60
Susannah Fewell 12/6/1827 aged 17
William Fewel of Gt. Dunmow 15/8/1827 aged 65
Sarah Fewell 22/10/1829 aged 59
Sarah Fewell 10/8/1830 aged 76
Charles Fewell 8/1/1836 aged 19
Lucy Fewel coming home from servitude died High Roding 3/8/1836 aged 14
John Fewell of High Roding 6/2/1838 aged 28
James Fewell 16/3/1844 aged 67
Charles Fewell 20/1/1845 aged 77
Sarah Fewell 7/11/1847 aged 28
William Fewell 12/12/1847 aged 4months
Elizabeth Fewell of Philpot End, Gt. Dunmow 8/4/1857 aged 50
Elizabeth Fewell 13/2/1858 aged 69
Philip Fewell 9/5/1859 aged 81
Sarah Fewell of Union House Gt.Dunmow 7/11/1861 aged 81
Felsted 1813 -1865
Elizabeth Sewell 3/3/1814 aged 14
William Sewell 14/8/1817 aged 9
Mary Sewell 13/5/1821 aged 100+3months
Elizabeth Sewell 3/5/1821 aged 64
Edward Sewell 15/5/1824 aged 81
Emma Sewell 4/8/1822 aged 2 months
Edward Sewell 21/8/1827 aged 85
Mary Sewell 21/8/1827 aged 52
Henry Sewell 6/6/1831 aged 4
Joseph Sewell 9/5/1831 aged 53
John Sewell parish pauper 26/3/1830 aged 74
John Sewell 21/6/1833 aged 18
Joseph Sewell 10/9/1839 aged 36
Elizabeth Sewell 19/10/1839 aged 51
Mary Sewell 25/4/1840 aged 81
Henry Sewell 12/2/1841 aged 45
Betsey Sewell 26/3/1842 aged -
William Sewell Dunmow Union 30/1/1854 aged -
Peter Sewell 22/10/1859 aged 70
John Sewell 4/5/1861 aged 82
Mary Sewell 21/7/1865 aged 67
Finchingfield 1813-1865
Charlotte Fewel 18/4/1819 aged 5
William Fewel 12/4/1829 Infant
Thomas Fewel 24/2/1833 aged 12
Jemima Fewel 3/12/1836 aged 70
John Fewell 23/2/1858 aged 5
Ruth Fewell 22/11/1858 aged 64
William Fuell 24/5/1861 aged 68
John Fuel 31/10/1861 aged 79
That's it until Monday folks
when i will be concentrating on trying to find William and Margaret's deaths
Kath xx
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I did email you all but for those interested in the Fewell's i do not have contact details for
i found this at the records office a good while a go
Felstead Baptism's
Henry son of Henry and Mary Fewele 20/9/1747
Ann daughter of Robert and Elizabeth Fovvel 17/4/1734
Martha Daughter of Edward and Elizabeth Twin 12/7/1747
Sarah daughter of Wait and Mary Sewell 5/7/1747
I am wondering if Edward and Elizabeth Twin had a Daughter called Margaret i will have a look again but didn't come across one last time.... and Henry and Mary maybe they had a son William too, but we have all looked at the Felsted baptism's and not found William as of yet...
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Hi Kath
2 of those Gt Canfield marriages are mine and 8 of the deaths.
I seem to have lost the plot here - who is Jack Baxter?
If you at any time come across the marriages of John Fewell & Elizabeth Lanham - 3 Feb 1768, William Fewell & Susanna Clarke - 9 Dec 1782 and Thomas Fewell & Sarah Bacon - 7 Aug 1777 all Great Canfield, could you just see if there are any witnesses named for the marriages. Also John Fewell & Mary ? about 1766, but I don't know where they married, this is the same John that Married Elizabeth Lanham, - he had been married before.
Thanks
Sue
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Hi Kath ....
Hope you have a good trip tomorrow. I think you're absolutely right in trying to find out what happened to William and Margaret. They're our very own history and it seems strange that the seem to have disappeared into thin air after having had their children.
I wonder if they've been forced to move well away into another county - or maybe just a part of Essex where none of our (and the IGI/LDS) searches have touched yet (if you have a chance to talk to one of the Essex history experts, could you ask them about forced relocation / emigration and the clearing of the Poor Houses please ?).
What looks like a very interesting publication in the SEAX register are the accounts of the Dunmow Overseer - Ref: D/P 95/12/1 which detail allowance given to poor mothers and the handouts given to the poor in general. In covering the period 1766 to 1833 it hits on just the period we're looking at for Fewells in general and William / Margaret and their children in particular. It also covers the black hole when the Takeley register of births wasn't being completed by the incumbent vicar.
Have a great time - I wish I was with you !!
Aye
Trev
PS - Hi Sue ... great news about the wedding - Congratulations !
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Hi Trevor
Thanks alot. did you see my other posting to you about Lucy and her mother (Georges Lucy)?
Sue
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Hi Sue ...
Yes I did - should have said thanks ! Not as sad as it could have been but still rather Dickensian and tragic. It may have been the 'relocation to Lancashire' thing that was in my mind when I asked Kath if she could find out more about this. It was also the way in which Jeremy Paxman's relatives in Suffolk found themselves in the Black Country (I'm sure you saw the programme !). I wonder if the same fate befell William and Margaret ... or any others in our lines ??
Aye
Trev
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Hi
I did wonder about relocation for them, as He was born in Braintree, so it wasn't as if he came from up here. And they worked in the cotton mills, not very exciting. I havn't been able to find a death or marriage for Lucy, she seemed to have disappeared after 1901.
As for the Essex lot, I wish the vicar had written in the books for Gt Canfield, the missing period is causing lots of problems. I have been looking again at the William, Thomas and John born Takely, children of Thomas Fuell & Elizabeth Judd, and wonder if maybe our John is this one. Nobody seems to have them in any other tree's.
Take care
Sue
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Sue & Trev
I will of course keep an eye out for your Fewell's Sue. Everything i come accross iwrite down even if i already have it..I will be looking at Gt Canfield tomorrow also High Roding,White Roding,Felsted,Gt Dunmow and Thaxted (if i get time to do them all in one hit)
Trev
I will ask the historian about forced relocation etc
Thanx for the Ref # I have put it down at top of the list along with a few other's (apart from the traditional Burial/Marriage/Baptisms)
I will also be looking at Gt Dunmow Congregational Church as you never know.....
There are some Bastardy Bonds (1761-1809),Examinations (1803-1819) Relief to Paupers (1804-1809) Removal Orders (1749-1819) for Thaxted i will try and look at also...........
If there is any particular ref # you want me to look at please let me know before 9am tomorrow
And Sue do us distant rellies get an invite to this wedding or what ;)
TTFN
Kath x
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Sue
Sorry
Jack Baxter is the gentleman who transcribed some of the Parish records and but them into several Great Big Books which is handy but it's only for certain Years and then there is of course the transcription errors which am positive there are you can tell this by looking at all the Felsted Sewell's i found but not one Fewell/Fuell when we know there are Fewell's there at that time....Jack baxtters is quick for reference only but i didn't get time to cross ref what was in his books against the PR's which you should always do but as time is of the essence and tomorrow is the last day i can get there before easter i won't be cross reffing anything (unless i think it's significant)
Bet your glad you asked who Jack Baxter was now don't you hahahahaha
Kath xxxxx
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Thanks Kath, I thought I had missed something somewhere along the line.
By the way, I hadn't been getting notification of messages either, just popped on here to night to have a look and found your new info. But since then emails have been coming through to let me know.
And.......if I invited all the possible Fewell releatives on here , we wouldn't find a room big enough lol
Take care and good luck tomorrow.
Sue
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Thanx Sue
so that's a polite NO then is it ;) hahaha oh well will have to get myself a free drink from somewhere else then ;)
I only got your notification and not the one Trev posted, that's another reason i was away from here for so long i thought the board had gone dead, wish i had known earlier :( never mind i will at least pull my finger out now and check the board anyway!!
Kath x
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Hi Kath .....
Just a quick line to say thanks for the lookup offer - if anybody's going to dig anything up I know you will.
In due course it will be worth checking the non-denominational records - Sophia, one of William and Margaret's daughters, got baptised as an adult at Braintree Independence Church (she was the one that married Thomas Searle). There was also a William christened in the 1770s at the Independence Chapel at Hatfield Broad Oak .... interestingly his parents were John and Sarah Fewell - maybe Sue's lost John me thinks.
Regarding the Sewells of Felsted. I've been in contact with a really knowledgeable Sewell researcher over the past couple of years (he has over 1500 Sewells listed) and about 18 months ago he cross checked his Felsted Sewells (of which there are loads - as you know !) against my website Fewells and came up with NO matches. It appeared - at least with that data and at that time - that the Sewells generally steered clear of the Canfields, Thaxted and Takeley whilst the Fewells steered clear of Felsted and Gt Waltham ... which are the recognized 'happy homelands' of the Sewells. This said, there must be a degree of room for error.
Once again, take care and have a great day ....
Aye
Trev
PS - have you checked the 'e-mail and notification' setting in you personal profile to make sure it's turned on and the relevent forums listed ?? Sounds basic, but mine seemed to reset itself (to no notices) about 6 months ago.
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Casting your minds back to when we decided that some of the Jewel/Jewell/Juel's on the Takely Parish records were actually Fewell's. I have now checked every one of them on the marriage records with either Boyds for the early ones and BMD for the later ones, and everyone except one (which BMD has as a completly different name) and they are all Fewell/Fewel/Fuel. So I should imagine that the births and deaths are the same.
Sue
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Hi Kath ....
Any news from your research and visit to the ERO ? Knowing how persistent and determined you are I'm sure you're going to uncover something new ..... so have you yet ?? !!
Great suspense here in middle England !
Aye
Trev
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Hi Trev and all
Apologies for not posting sooner
Well i did find something but not quite sure it's of any use to us, but it does strngthen the fact that William is in Great Waltham...
I found a baptism for his Grandaughter Anne in Moreton
Anne Fewell s. [sic] of William Fewell of Moreton End, Labourer s. of William Fewell Great Waltham Labourer and Mary [sic] his wife d. of ______ [sic] Twin of Birston??(that was hard to read) near Dunmow. Frances his wife d. of Job Pavett of Moreton End and Mary his wife d. of William Westward of Walthamstow labourer..
Born Monday 16th July 1810, Baptism Sunday (i forgot to write the rest but hey we have her birth date)
Now don't you wish all baptisms were like this one is for Moreton
apart from this nothing on William at all
i found Anne Perrin's baptisms in Moreton
i will put it here as a comparason to Anne Fewell's above as something struck me that maybe just Maybe William Fewell was still alive when his grandaughter was baptised..
Anne Perrin d. of George Perrin of Bowlers Green, Labourer and Agnes his wife d. of Thomas Morris late of Pedlers End,labourer
Born.MOnday 18th July 1808
Bapt. Sunday 7th Aug. 1808
Now it say's Agnes's father was late of Pedlers end does this mean he was deceased??? if so maybe it means that on Anne Fewell's bapt that William Fewell is still alive and Kicking in 1810
Maybe clutching at straws and it doesn't help us find him
What do you think??
Also what if our William Fewell is the one that died aged 83 in 1812 that would make his birth year circa 1729, he would have been 39 when he married Margaret not an imposability i would assume she's younger because of having the last child circa 1791...I do belive for some reason that William died in Great Waltham, and this is the only William Fewell to die there..but still no death for Margaret, unless like the baptism she died as Mary which would be a real pain in the backside as there are lots and lots of Mary's
What does everyone think??
Trev, no historian there when i went sorry..I also checked out the accounts thing you asked and no luck there either..
No Fewell's in the Takely bastardy bonds ( i will add fiche numbers later so no-one goes over the same ground)
Kath xx
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Hi Kath ...
Thanks for coming back so quickly with your results - I read them straight away, but have had some problems posting a reply.
I think your work has raised some very interesting points - and would agree that the information from Anne's baptism certainly indicates that William and Mary / Margaret were still around in 1810.
It also raises the issue of Mary / Margaret's home village being Barston (I'm sure that's the village given) which is about 2 miles from Lt Dunmow and less than 3 miles from Felsted. As far as I know, we've never checked the parish records of St Mary's at Barston - so I'd say this needs to be high on the 'to do' list now ! We need to get some sense out of the Mary / Margaret thing for a start ...... and may even find some evidence of William and Margaret's earlier life together (we should be so lucky eh !! ?)
You've also raised the possibility of William being older than we've previously thought - and I think this is a very valid point. Margaret could well have been much younger than him and may still have predeceased him by a fair way. I'm not at all sure where his assumed DoB came from ........ but I'm pretty sure that it is indeed assumed. If he was actually born in the 1720s there are a number of possible candidates around.
We also don't know whether either William or Margaret remarried after the death of the other ..... maybe this is why we can't find a Margaret Fewell burial ? ........ come to that, maybe as a widower William married a sister or cousin of hers called Mary ?? !! Hmmmm - my brain hurts !
Anyway, think you've done some very valuable research - and it certainly should prompt us to ask some basic questions about the information we've got and - dare I say it - some of the assumptions we may have been making. So, a big thanks from middle England !
Thanks too for looking at the accounts book and trying to find out about forcible relocation.
Aye
Trev
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Hi all
I think I've lost the plot somewhere along the line.
If Anne is the daughter of William & Mary, I assume this is the William son of William & Margaret, he must of married a cousin for Mary to also be Twin.
So why are you now looking for William to have remarried a Mary?
Confused Sue!!!!
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Hi Sue
Anne was the daughter of William and Frances Fewell (nee Pavett)
William is the son on William and Mary Fewell(nee Twin)
Frances is the daughter of Job Pavett and Mary Pavett(nee westward)
The Vicar put down the childs Grandparents as well as her parents
Anne Fewell s. [sic] of William Fewell of Moreton End, Labourer s. of William Fewell
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Born Monday 16th July 1810, Baptism Sunday (i forgot to write the rest but hey we have her birth date)
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Hi Sue
Anne was the daughter of William and Frances Fewell (nee Pavett)
William is the son on William and Mary Fewell(nee Twin)
Frances is the daughter of Job Pavett and Mary Pavett(nee westward)
The Vicar put down the childs Grandparents as well as her parents
Anne Fewell s. [sic] of William Fewell of Moreton End, Labourer s. of William Fewell
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][/color]Great Waltham Labourer and Mary [sic] his wife d. of ______ [sic] Twin of Birston??(that was hard to read) near Dunmow. Frances his wife d. of Job Pavett of Moreton End and Mary his wife d. of William Westward of Walthamstow labourer..
Born Monday 16th July 1810, Baptism Sunday (i forgot to write the rest but hey we have her birth date)
Kath :o)
whoops pressed quote button instead of Edit LOL think i may be tired soory folks
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Hi Kath
Thank you. I knew I had lost the plot. I have been reading your message (and reading it, and reading it) since you put it on lol
Sue
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No Worries Sue, i had to look at seveal times when i came accross it too so you're not the only one mate
Kath xx
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Hi all,
Just put a new topic regarding Henry Twinn and Margaret Surrah on the board.
That jogged my memory, did you know that William Fewell and Margaret Twinn had a daughter Elizabeth baptised 24 April 1768 at Felsted, they married as you know 3 May 1768.
I have double checked both the baptism and marriage date, whoops?
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Hi All
Hope you are all well
No i never knew they had a daughter in 1768
where? Felsted or Great Waltham?
and are Henry and Margaret , Margaret Twin's Parents??
Kath x
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Hi Findem, Kath et al ....
Very interesting. I guess it's a fair assumption that Elizabeth's Baptism was in Felsted ? Is it also OK to assume that you didn't find any deaths that would have matched hers (i.e. nothing to show she died in infancy) ??
I've looked at the Elizabeth Fewells we know of and the only one that looks (remotely) likely to me is the Elizabeth Fewell who appears on Boyd's list as having married William Bush at Little Easton in 1789. Date looks OK but Lt Easton is a whopping 6 miles or so from Felsted .... quite a distance by C.18 Fewell standards ! What do you think ??
Aye
T
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Trev
I feel like giving up on it all sometimes :( hahaha
I still think that our William was the one that died in Great Waltham aged 83 in 1812 making birth circa 1729
His death record does say Pauper next to it , so maybe a look at the poor relief records if there are any for Gt Waltham is in order.. to see how long he was a pauper for
We can assume William Fewell was alive in 1810 in Gt Waltham according to his grandaughters baptism records in moreton..
This William above seems to be the only one that fits but where was he born?
Kath x
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Hi Kath ....
I'm pretty sure you're right about 'our' William dying in Gt Waltham in 1812. I wonder if the poor relief records will throw any light on his fate ? A trip to the ERO is needed I guess ! ?
Findem's latest research into the Twinn link is at: TWINN Henry, which Margaret Surrah did he marry? ... he seems to be tracing back a long way now .... Margarets everywhere !!
Got to go or I'll miss Desperate Housewives !!
T
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Hi Kath,
Elizabeth Fewell was baptised 24 April 1768 in Felsted, sorry for not giving all the info, I have now rectified the other post.
Henry and Margaret Twinn are the parents of Margaret Twinn, wife of William Fewell.
Regards,
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Hi Derek
Thanx for that mate, it's appreciated :)
Kath x
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You're welcome Kath.
I am hoping soon to start entering my 2006 finds on my database, if or when I come across any Fewell info, related or not, I will put it on this topic.
M E, noting the deathly silence on the matter I presume that you still haven't heard from Trevor Mills? It's a great shame all that Fewell info going to waste. :(
Regards
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Hi Findem ...
Not a bean from trevor Mills - I sent him a chaser a little while back, but no reply. I'll try again this wekend. I'llalso check with my brother - who was in regulaar contact with Rev Mills to see if he's got anything we're missing.
Aye
ME
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Hi All
Could you all tell me what pr's you have on microfiche for the ever elusive Fewell's
I want to order some but don't want to get what everyone else already has
was gonna order
Barnston (St Mary)
D/P153/13/1a Settlement Certificates 1701 - 1811 (9 items)
D/P153/1/1 Baptisms : 1539-1774 Marriages : 1539-1753 Burials : 1539-1774
D/P153/1/2 Baptisms : 1775-1812 Burials : 1775-1812 Inc. terrier, 1810
Not that i can remeber for the life of me why i need to look at these files
can you all tell me who has what and what else we need as a matter or urgency to look at
Kath x
I now know why we need them it's to do with Margaret Twin and her parents
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Also
How far is Felsted from Great Waltham ?
What churches are there in between ?
St JOhn's @ Ford End
Holy Trinity @ Pleshey
St Mary's @ Barnston
anymore?
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Hi Kath
Nice to hear from you, all seems to be quiet of late.
All I have on fiche is Gt Canfield and Takeley.
Can you keep an eye out for a Golding Crow on your travels amongst the archives. He, I think was born in Rochford. Just if you stumble across him, I'm trying to find out who his parents were. He was married in 1812, so would have been born late 1700's.
Thanks. Sue
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Thanx Sue for letting me know hun.
Will keep an eye as got to do some looking up in rochford ( hubby's family from there)
K x
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Hi Kath (and Sue) .....
Hope you're well - and good to see you're still about !
I'm afraid that i only have the registers for Chignall St James, Kath.
I'm looking forward to hearing what the Barston records say about William's wife Mary - as mentioned in one of your earlier messages (para pasted below)
Anne Fewell s. [sic] of William Fewell of Moreton End, Labourer s. of William Fewell Great Waltham Labourer and Mary [sic] his wife d. of ______ [sic] Twin of Birston??(that was hard to read) near Dunmow. Frances his wife d. of Job Pavett of Moreton End and Mary his wife d. of William Westward of Walthamstow labourer..
Born Monday 16th July 1810, Baptism Sunday (i forgot to write the rest but hey we have her birth date)
Felsted to Gt Waltham is only a few miles.
Looking forward to hearing what the Barston PRs say about the misses Twin (Mary and or Margaret). Can't wait in fact !
Aye
ME
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Hi Trev ;D
Hope you and yours are well.
Thanx for letting me know mate
I missed the ERO by 30 mins today so will phone them Monday and Order apparantly takes up to 4 weeks to get them so i'm afraid it's gonna be quite a wait
Anyway i will let you all know when i get them and what is on them.
By the way the Fuell database from 1837 onwards is nearly finished i've done all the Births and Deaths and up to the 1970's with the Marriages
I will e-mail it to you when it's done
K x
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Hi All,
Kath, I have a couple of Thaxted ffewell baptisms, early 1700s, that I found this year do you want them?
Well I still haven't heard from that American guy, Stanford B Swallow, regarding the Marriage of Margaret Surrah and Ed Cornhill. I know the blighter is alive, his name, address and phone number are in the American white pages. I included a self addressed envelope and two International Reply Coupons (last of the bid spenders that's me ;D) so it wouldn't cost him anything. I've uncrossed my fingers now, it was getting very uncomfortable.
Regards
PS Sorry Kath for the stupid question, just re read your post and noticed your database only goes back to 1837, just shows it pays to read the fine print. My brain obviously wasn't working, probably due to having my fingers crossed so long, cut off blood circulation to my brain. No comments about age thanks.
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Hi Findem
lol surprised they havn't dropped off ( your fingers i mean )
Thanx for the offer of the Thaxted Baptism's but i'll leave the pre 1837 stuff for Trev to add to his website..
I'm far to easily confused for information like that hun lol
Hope the weather is nice in OZ, we're having a nice weekend but no doubt it will be raining again come tomorrow..
and this Stanford Fella isn't there a phone number for him?
Oh and before i forget i wrote to a Fred Fewell in Canada, and a Richard Fewell ( believing Richard is the son of Fred) and Fred ( son of Walter and Annie nee Payne) is my Dad's 1st Cousin all the letters came back so i had no joy in finding out anything from them.....
Trev
I must again thankyou for the info you sent on William Pearce Fewell whom i am extremely interested in as he is the only sibling of my grandfather i cannot trace
I did Find out that he was Married but don't know who too, and he had 2 children a son and a daughter called Adelaide Ellen Fewell ( she was down as next of kin on his enlist records when he joined the canadian Army) after 1916 he dissapeared of the face of the earth and i am told the was a police investigation into it, nothing was found.. we know his son survived as he was left with people in Sasketchewan but without a name thats a bit of a dead end. I have a distant cousin in Canada who is going to apply for his Army Service record for me , so hopefully that will shed more light onto him, and i thought it was hard to loo for the Fewell's before 1800 lol
anyway better go got a sunday roast to start
TTFN all
K x
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Hi Kath,
At my age I take extra care to make sure bits do not fall off, can't stop the hair thinning though ;)
Yes Stanford B Swallow does have a phone number, perhaps I'll phone, I will have to find out what time zone he is in, don't want to phone in the early hours, he might not like it. I've been phoned in the early hours by people from the UK, bit of a shock, takes me a long while at that time of day to get my brain in gear. Problem is how long would it take for him to access his data, it could turn into an expensive phone call.
A bit cold here at the moment, got down to 10 degrees C yesterday, today a bit better at !4.
Regarding the Thaxted ffewells I'll check out Trevor"s site sometime, if he hasn't got them I'll offer them to him.
Regards.
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Findem have you seen this, i thought possibly maybe that it may be a connection as the James Swallow was born in Essex England and it gives his childrens married names and if no joy with Stanford you could try the others listed
K x
Obituary: The Millard County Progress, Fillmore, Utah, Friday, 25 Feb 1955:
Last rites for James Swallow were held in the Fillmore First Ward Chapel Saturday, Feb 19, 1955, with William B. Mace of the Second Ward Bishopric presiding. Prelude and postlude music by Mrs. Alice Robins. Opening musical was a duet by Floyd and Clem Utley. Mr. J. W. Swallow offered the opening prayer. Roy Tomkinson then sang a solo. Bishop Milton A. Melville was the first speaker. He was followed by former Bishop Edward Peterson. Closing remarks were by Wm. B. Mace. Gay Cooper and Linda Callister played a flute duet, with Edith Callister as accompanist. Mr. Earl Steele sang a solo. A tribute to Mr. Swallow written by Alonzo Huntsman was read by Mrs. Bert Swallow. Closing prayer was by Bishop Ashby Robison. The grave was dedicated by former Bishop, Henry Hatton.
Pall bearers were grandsons: Grant Whicker, Tom Beeston, Kirk Warner, Stanford Swallow, Gordon and Garth Smith.
Mr. Swallow died at his home in Fillmore last Wednesday, at the advanced age of 94. He had been a semi-invalid for many years. Born in Essex County, England Jan 13, 1861. He was a son of Thomas and Caroline Crow Swallow. He married Charlotte Dearden in Fillmore, Dec. 20, 1888. She died in April, 1935.
He is survived by the following sons and daughters: Mrs. Ella Whicker, Mrs. Nellie Lambert, Mrs. Florence Beeston, Mrs. Eva Warner; Frank, Bert; Mrs. June Smith, Mrs. LaNola Turner, all of Fillmore; a brother, Charles Swallow, Meadow; 30 grandchildren and 35 great grandchildren.
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Thanks for that info Kath and no I hadn't seen it. To be honest I haven't thought about a "plan B", thought I'd wait a couple of weeks or so to see if I get a reply first.
How on earth did you come across that info, a Google search or something similar ???
I'll copy and paste the info in a Word document for easy reference, it might be worth a try if all else fails. I'm half inclined to believe the Margaret Surrah Stanford B Swallow has marrying Ed Cornhill is the right one though. I would like to know how he defined which Margaret married Ed, to see if his reasoning has merit.
Regards.
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Hi Kath & Findem
I got excited then lol A Crow in your tree but assuming that she came from Stebbing the same as Thomas & James she's along way from my Cranham ones.
Sue
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Findem
Just did an ancestry search for that information mate :)
Sue
Your Crows all come from Cranham? It's a tiny tiny place and not to far from where i am in Essex.
K x
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Findem
I looked on Ansetral File and the Swallow obit above is indeed the same family that has the Edward Cornhill and Margaret Surrah listed, which i am sure you probably already know, but as you say it could always be Plan B x
K
Submitter(s):
PATRICIA L RUDD Microfilm: NONE
12664 WEST ALABAMA WAY
LAKEWOOD CO Submission: AF92-101534
USA 80228
MARK TOMKINSON Microfilm: NONE
93 EAST PINEHURST STREET
TOOELE UT Submission: AF89-101744
USA 84074-2146
MARK TOMKINSON Microfilm: NONE
93 EAST PINEHURST STREET
TOOELE UT Submission: AF91-100112
USA 84074-2146
VELTON KENT WARREN Microfilm: NONE
1115 JOHNSON ST
IDAHO FALLS ID Submission: AF92-102259
USA 83401
JOANNE WAGNER Microfilm: NONE
15025 24TH AVE E
TACOMA WA Submission: AF93-100172
USA 98445
ALLISON CHAD STOTT Microfilm: NONE
96 WEST 550 NORTH
CENTERVILLE UT Submission: AF93-107633
USA 84014
PORTER Microfilm: NONE
1280 WEST 300 NORTH
CLEARFIELD
UT Submission: AF97-101702
USA 84015
These were the Submitters on The Ancestral File, so if no joy with Stanford Swallow try these hun
K x
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Hi Kath
I got the baptism records on fiche but some of them are really bad, you just can't read them. So I think I'm about as far back as I am able to go. A William Crow and Ann Bilsby married in 1795. He was from Cranham and she was from Upminster. But the records for the time he would have been born are just unreadable. So that's it.
I was lucky that there was only one Crow family in Cranham at that time, so no confusion as to who belonged to who.
Sue
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There is a Church in Cranham ( All Saints) let me know if in the future you want me to trapse the graveyard, it's no problem x
Upminster on the other hand as several churches i believe but the oldest i think is St Laurence
Anyway the offers there mate xx
K x
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Hi Kath
If you ever find yourself at a loose end one nice sunny day, and you fancy a walk round Cranham, that would be great, Thank you. Although I doubt very much if there are any gravestones left, I know there wasn't any when we came down and looked for the Fewells in Gt Canfield.
Thanks
Sue
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Hi Kath,
Thanks for that list of submitters, I'll add that list to the other info you sent, I might just try again later with another person. I'll check them out in the American white pages first, it also gives their ages, don't want to send to anyone too elderly, just in case. Stanford is 66 so there was a good chance he had all his faculties and could stay alive long enough to answer my query.
By the way my definition of "too elderly" is anyone two or more years older than myself ;D
Regards.
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LOL
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Hi All
Well ordered the Barnston records just got to wait about 6 weeks for them :(
Oh and my local library has no fiche reader anymore lol just my luck really.
Trev
you say you have the Chig st J fiche
is it possible that you could send me ( here or via e-mail) all the Fewell info on it please??
I'd like it for my records if that's ok.
Anyway will let you all know what's on the Barnston fiche but don't hold your breath
K x
Trev have also sent you a private message so check your inbox mate please.
K
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Hi Kath .....
Just got back from sunny Sweden (it was too - about 22 hours a day !) - wonderful place.
Anyway, I'll get working ion the microfiche records for you. Strangely perhaps, I've never compiled a detailed list of the Fewells listed therein. That said, they only really appear for about 100 years and by the early 1900s that's it, they've all gone.
Thanks too for the personal message - got it fine and will send a well crafted letter some time later this week.
Any sign of the PRs you ordered a while back ? Can't wait for you to get them ! I've always had a hunch that we are going to have to check every set of records from any/all parishes within 5 (or even 10) miles of G Waltham to track down William Fewell / Fuell (born circa 1730). Don't know why I think this - sods law maybe - or the fact that many people (including Walter Mills and my brother) have tended to concentrate - quite naturally - on the few parishes referenced in William's records.
Got to go .....
Aye
ME
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Hi trev
Glad you had a nice time :)
I have ordered the fich but going to take up to 6 weeks to get to me :( and i ordered them on the 5th June so will be mid july i suppose before i get them,
I am in the process of sourcing a fiche reader lol well Ebay's good for something
I will of course let you all know as soon as they arrive, it may infact be sooner than the 6 weeks but not holding my breath haha
Anyway let me know how the letter gets on mate and i'll keep everything crossed in hope of a reply.
K xx
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Hi all
Just to let you all know, change of name completed, I'm now Sue Hunter.
Hope all is well with you all.
Sue
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Fantastic News - Congratulations !
Trev
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Hi Sue,
Congratulations and wishing you and your husband every happiness.
Sorry I couldn't congratulate you sooner but a few days ago my modem/router died, replacement arrived this morning thank God.
Regards.
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Way to go Sue!!!!!
Sorry not said it earlier but as per usual didn't get a notification of the post
Hope you had a lovely day xx
Kath and Family x
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Oh and as for the microfiche i ordered they still not here :(
They have a problem with the fiche copier or something (far to technical for me)
So am still waiting, will let you know when they arrive, and i am also in the process of trying to buy a fiche reader for use at home which is a feat in itself
anyways hope you are all well
and i now have 6 Weeks of hell as all the children are home :(
TTFN xx
Kath x
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Hi Kath
We had a lovely day and the reception (3 weeks later) was just as much fun lol
Good luck for the summer holidays, glad mine are working now and I don't have to have them at home for all those weeks, they used to drive me nuts.
Take care
Sue
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Well i have got the Barnston and Great Waltham Microfiche
HORRAYY!!!
trouble is i can't read it has i haven't a fiche reader :(
am bidding on one on ebay so i'lll let you know
Kath x
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Hi Kath
If your stuck and don't get the fiche reader, you can send them to me, tell me who your looking for and I will try and read them best I can and send them back to you.
Sue
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Thanx for the offer Sue, but not to worry i won one on ebay today for £41.00 (minus postage) so hopefully i'll have it by the end of next week hope you can all wait that long!
Kath x
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Hi All
well got the fiche reader and guess what............. it don't ****ing work am so p***ed off you wouldn't believe. Have e-mailed the seller and trying to sort it out :(
will keep you updated
K x
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Hi to all you Fewell finders out there. Long time no chat [for me anyway, I see you've all been busy].
Have just spent the past couple of hours going thru all the messages on here from way back. Can't remember when I last received notification of anything on this board - gremlins somewhere... ???
Very interesting catching up on all the latest Fewell news. I eagerly await the next installment.
Hope everyone's keeping well.
Talk soon.
Cheers
Julie :)
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Hi Julie ....
Yes, long time no hear - and very little activity. I guess that it's the summer hols !
As you've probably gathered, we all seem to be waiting on Kath at the moment - she's following a new lead that points to a village (only a few miles from Great Waltham - and pretty close to Takeley and Chignall St James) the parish records for which nobody has . All she needs is a fiche reader that works !
Good to hear from you and hope you get a notification for this mail OK.
Aye
Trevor
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Hi Trevor - yes I did get notification of this message from you [obviously]. Have no idea why I've had no others for many months now. Guess the gremlins have sorted themselves out.
Had a really good giggle when I read Kath's last message re the fiche reader. Poor bugger, how frustrating. Fingers crossed she gets it sorted out soon.
Cheers
Julie
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Hi All
Am on the library PC at the minute, i'm afraid mine as died a death and i have no idea what is wrong with yet.
I am pulling my hair out as i havn't had the PC since the 2nd Sept.
Just thought i'd better let you all know.
As for the poxy fiche reader i bought GRRRRR..... I have given it to my dad to have a look at as i cannot afford to buy another and i suppose if anyone can fix it he can as he's an electrician.
I do hope you are all well and as soon as i am up and running again i will post and let you know.
all my love
Kath xxxx
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Hi All,
Thought I'd let you know that yet another descendent of Thomas Searles and Sophia Fewell has come out of the woodwork, he (Brian) contacted me via Genes Reunited.
His link to Thomas and Sophia is via Mary Ann Searles the daughter of Thomas Searles (son of Thomas & Sophia) and his first wife, Charlotte Purkiss. Thomas junior had three wives, not at the same time though, he wasn't that brave. ;D
I have recommended RootsChat to Brian.
How's your computer and fiche reader going Kath?
Regards.
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HI All,
sorry not had net since sept, dad has had to fix pc should be up and running at end of november, will let you all know when i am back online, dad is in process of looking at fiche reader.
Great news about another descendent
I will say Hi to Brian now whilst i can 'Hello Brian' 'I am Kath pleased to meet you, welcome to the family'
anyway hope everyone is well
will try and keep you all posted, and i did try the library fiche reader but i didn't think it was very good, so maybe i will have to go back and take my fiche to the ERO it will probably be easier and quicker.
TTFN
Kath xx
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Do any of you Fewell searchers have my ancestor, James Fewell (born White Roding about 1829(?).. ages on that census page are hard to read) in your line? He married Elizabeth Newman in 1862. I'm searching for his father, Phillip, but I'm not sure which of several possible is correct. Philip's profession is shown as Bailiff on his son's Marriage Certificate.
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Hi Chandos
I think this James's parents were Philip & Martha. It's not our line, but I found them in the 1841 when I was looking for info on our lot. Ours are down from Philomon (also sometimes known as Phillip).
1841 census. Leaden Roothing:
Phillip Fewell 60
Martha Fewell 50
William Fewell 20
Ann Fewell 20
Charles Fewell 15
James Fewell 13
John Fewell (This one not sure if it says 1/2 or 72)
Which census is hard to read? He's 52 in 1881, 42 in 1871 both Sutton. There is also a possibility that the one in 1851 age 23 in Regents Park as a servant is him, but I havn't found him in 1861.
Hope this helps.
Sue
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Thank you for your quick answer. Our James is indeed the one whom you show as 52 in Sutton. My photocopy of the 1881 Census page is one I got several years ago when I was in England and I'm only just back working on the Fewells again. At the time of the census, someone neatly put quite a thick check mark through the age of each family head and I didn't look to see how it has been transcribed elsewhere.... It could have read 57 or 54 or 52 or even 37 (his wife was 40).
Thanks for moving me along another step. Now I can get back to some more research.
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Hi all
Merry Xmas and Happy New Year.
Hope you are all well.
Have any of you come across any info on an Elizabeth Fewell in Chelmsford gaol in the 1841 census. If you have any info on her or why she was there can you let me know please, she was wife of James, and I think she may be the missing wife of James in Great Canfield at Bacon End.
Thanks
Sue
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I've just searched the online catalogue of Essex Record Office (google SEAX for it) for 'Elizabeth Sewell' and one of the hits is for
Q/SBb 545/60
Dates of Creation 6 May 1841
Extent 1
Scope and Content Copy order of removal from Rawreth to the parish of Great Stambridge of ELIZABETH SEWELL widow and her two children; George aged three and ELIZABETH aged about one year and six months.
Date From 1841
I know Rawreth and Great Stambridge are some distance from Canfield but these quarter session proceedings may have at or near Chelmsford which is fairly close to Canfield
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Hi Clincher
This is Elizabeth Fewell I'm looking for and she wasn't a widow. Her husband James was still alive.
Thanks anyway.
Sue
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Hi All Hope you had a great Crimbo and have a jolly New year xx
I need some info if at all possible
Do these Fewell's belong to any of you??
Frederick Robert G Fewell 11/4/1901 Chelmsford District
John Fewell 1901 A-J Chelmsford - died 1901 Chelmsford
Robert Fewell 1902 J-M Chelmsford
Violet Ethel Fewell 4/2/1902 Chelmsford
Alfred James E Fewell 1903 J-M Chelmsford
Fred Fewell 1903 a-j Chelmsford
Emily May E Fewell 1904 j-m Chelmsford
Nora Fewell 1905 j-s Chelmsford
Dorothy Rose E Fewell 19/3/1906 Chelmsford
Mabel Fewell 1907 a-j Chelmsford
Ralph George Fewell 6/10/1907 Chelmsford
Albert Alfred Fewell 1908 j-m Chelmsford
Philip James Fewell 1909 j-s Chelmsford
Frank Edward Fewell 29/1/1910 - 10/11/1980 Chelmsford
Wilfrid G Fewell 17/11/1911 Chelmsford
I am looking for any dates and especially mothers maiden names
Thanx guys
Kath xx
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Hi, Happy new year to you all.
Just wondered if any of you were not aware that some of Chelmsford PRs are on line at the ERO SEAX site. Kath's mention of Chelmsford brought to mind the recent reply posted by Marymog on the subject of John Hopkins of Chelmsford.
If you fancy a search, the parish register for Chelmsford is online at
http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/Help/SessionExpiredMessage.asp
click login
click guest
click image search (from menu right hand side)
type Chelmsford parish register
its very nice you see the actual registers.
I haven't used the SEAX site much, SEAX will not accept my Aussie post code so I can only logon as a guest. I stupidly assumed that I would then have only limited access i.e. to lists of services and holdings :-[
Anyway to cut a long story short I found my ancestor William Tibbel (Theobald) and his parents marriage all in Chelmsford. I have been searching for him in ever increasing circles around Stebbing for years now, beginning to wonder if I would ever find him.
Haven't yet been able to find a list of digitised registers so I wonder what other parishes are available.
Regards.
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Hi Kath
None of them are mine. But I'm sure a lot of Trevors were Chelmsford, you could try him.
Your Wilfrid George Fewell 17/11/1911 Chelmsford, birth was registered in Mar quarter of 1911 and according to the death record he was born 17/11/1910 death registered Apr 1995 age 84.
Sue
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HI Sue,
thanx my apologies it was late last night when i posted haha (that's my excuse and i am sticking to it) ;) thank you for the correction on Wilfrid George.
Kath x
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Hi all, Happy New Year.
I have started to go over the Takeley fiche again. The fiche reader I am now using is a little better than when I did them first time round.
The Takely records have been updated I see, and If you remember the Rev said that he agreed that some of the Jewels were probably Fewells, but some were definitely Jewel. Well so far I have re done 1670-1770 and everyone of them is definitely Fewel in one form or another.
Either they start with ff or the F is written the same as in the name Frances. So far, I havn't found even one that I think is a Jewel/Juel.
I will continue my quest, but I at the moment I think they are ALL going to turn out to be Fewells.
Sue
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Good work Susie.
I noticed a lot of ffs in the Chelmsford, St Mary the Virgin PRs, e.g. ffrench.
Looking forward to seeing the end results.
Regards.
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HI All Happy New Year
Hope you all a a great Christmas!
Just been reading over the Fewell board and i have a bit of info that may or may not throw a spanner in the works of finding William (aka Houdini) Fewell
Now way back i said i thought that our William Fewell died in 1812 aged 83 this i now believe is incorrect.
According to the National Burial Index (NBI) that William was buried at Great Dunmow.
I have however found a William Fewell buried at Great Waltham 22/08/1822 aged 81 which makes his estimated birth Year of 1741 now this is a more likely candiate for our William..
We know from his Grandaughters baptism records at Moreton that William and Mary/Margaret were alive in 1810 and the record states he is in Great Waltham at that time.
That gives us at least 2 candidates so far
William Fewel Bap. 27.04.1740 Takeley Son of Thomas & Elizabeth Judd?
William Fuell Bap 21.11.1737 Takeley Son of Philip & Ann(e) Judd?
Are there anymore candidates that you know of??
And also how come when we have checked the Gt Waltham Burial Index did we not come accross this William?
Does the parish record give anymore info than the NBI?
I think we need to check it again!
Also we need to try and get in touch with Trevor Mills about the tree his father put together
Robert Fewell from Suffolk? M. April 1581
Giles Fewell from born 1582 Suffolk?
Daniel Fewell from Thaxted
Daniel Fewell from Thaxted
John Fewell M. Elizabeth Green c1707 Dunmow
Philip Fewell M. Ann(e) Judd 26.12.1736 Takeley
I'd love to know how he came to this conclusion, not saying it's wrong just want to confirm it as much as possible.
I still have the Barnston Fiche to check (just havn't got round to it yet)
What do you all think
Kath x
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Hi Kath
I see now you are considering William Fewel Bap. 27.04.1740 Takeley Son of Thomas & Elizabeth Judd. I still think that his brother John may be our John that married Elizabeth Lanham. Do you know if their other brother Thomas is the one that married Sarah Bacon?
Sue
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Hi Sue
Am not considering either of them yet mate there must be more William Fewell's born in that period (all the better tho if these are the only two)
William son of Thomas and Elizabeth is a closer date fit but as you know that means chuff all with our lot as they weren't an educated lot ;D
I would say it is equal between the both until we can prove otherwise.
Does anyone know if there were any more Williams born circa 1840 +/- 5 yrs in Dunmow,Thaxted,Gt Canfield,Gt Waltham,Gt Easton ( i do hope not).
As for John Fewell, i know nothing nor whom he married or who he belongs to mate sorry. I've been leaving that one for you hun haha.
I take it William & Thomas son's of Thomas and Elizabeth Judd had more siblings then? as you are speaking about a John Fewell
and did William son of Philip And Ann(e) Judd have any other siblings apart from Millicent?
I can see why it's likely to think our William is son of Philip and Ann because of the Milly/Millicent connection however if you take a look at the Takeley Records it seems that Millicent is a name that crops up more than once so is not unusually uncommon.
I just wondered what you thought?
Also what would be extremely useful to find out is about Margaret Fewell (Twin)
Great Waltham parish records need to be checked again
Do you know anyone that has them on fiche?
Kath x
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Hi Kath
All I have found for Thomas Fewel Elizabeth Judd is William & Thomas bap 27/4/1740 & John bap 3/10/1742. Whether William & Thomas were twins or just both baptised on the same day It dosn't say. They married 20/07/1735, so could be either.
William son of Philip And Ann(e) Judd have any other siblings apart from Millicent?
This bit has confused me lol
Phillip Fuell & Ann Judd m 26/12/1736 had William bap 21/11/1737 & Susanna bap 24/08/1740. Then later on there was Millicent bap 13/01/1754 dau of Phillip & Anne Fuell, which I assume was the same couple, although there is a big gap between Susanna & Millicent. But I havn't as yet found a Millicent for a William!!
As for the name Twin, the only time I see it is when it states that two people were Twins.
Sue
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Kath
Forgot to say on the last message. You mention in your list from Trevor Mills two Daniels Thaxted.
There were two Daniels mentioned in the early records of Takeley. Maybe these are the Daniels Trevor Mills is referring too. Maybe they came from Thaxted, it dosn't say on the Takeley records.
Daniel ffewel bap 21 Nov 1670 son of William.
Hester bap 6 Dec 1672, John bap 7 Aug 1681, William bap 21 April 1686, daughter bap 9 Mar 1689 & James bap 29 July 1695 all children of Daniel ffewel.
I wondered if the Daniel that had these children, was the Daniel son of William, maybe baptised when or just before he married. The John ffewel went on to have a daughter Elizabeth (I think) maybe this was also his wife's name. There was also a Johannah ffewell that married ffrances Bright in 1700. She may have been a sister to Daniel.
Has anybody found any removal orders this early on??
Sue
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Hi Kath & Susie,
Originally, when I found the William of William & Hannah bap 5 Feb 1744 at Felsted I thought that's him, the husband of Margaret Twin. I was a bit concerned that the family moved to parts unknown but I reasoned that William 1744 may have had family connections in Felsted, making it easy for him to return there.
I would like to find other children of William & Hannah, I had hoped I might get lucky during my searches of various PRs at the ERO last year but nothing turned up :(
Then along came Trevor Mills with his info. That William (1737) having a sister named Millicent and a recommendation from the Rev Mills, tipped the scales in my mind toward him. The problem I have with this William is that if he married Margaret Twin, I would expect them to use the names Philip and Ann, or at least one of the those names.
Checking out the Rev Mills info in the Takeley online transcripts I came across William of Thomas & Elizabeth bap 27 Apr 1740. Although William & Margaret didn't name a son Thomas, I don't think at this stage I would like to rule this William out.
In fact I don't think I would rule any of the three out at this stage, like you both, I would dearly love to hear from Trevor Mills. As you state Kath it's not that I doubt the info but I would like to know what convinced the Rev Mills that William of Philip and Ann is the William who married Margaret Twin. A while back Middle Englander said he would contact Trevor Mills again and find out the score. As we haven't heard anything from M E I assume Trevor hasn't got into his father's computer yet.
If the family of William Fuell (Juell) & Elizabeth Green who married at Takeley 7 Dec 1761 could be found, the children's names might provide a clue to which of the three Williams married Elizabeth Green. Although I think it is unlikely to be the 1744 William, unless born earlier than the year of his baptism he would only be a 17 year old in 1761.
Kath, I have details of five children of Henry & Margaret Twin all baptised at Felsted, including Margaret baptised 29 Oct 1738. If they will be of use to you let me know and I'll post, PM or email them, which ever you prefer.
Very interesting that William Fewell burial you mentioned, 1741 puts him closest to William of Thomas & Elizabeth. Did you find any female Fewell burials at Gt Waltham? A Margaret (or some other first name) Fewell wife of William, could define whether the William buried 1822 could be our William.
Regards.
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Hi Findem
The only children I have found for William Fuell & Elizabeth Green are John bap 23 Jan 2769 and Elizabeth bap 21 April 1771. Witnesses to William & Elizabeth Green's marriage William Pool & Philemon Fuell.
Sue
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Hi Sue,
Thanks for that info.
Wouldn't it be great if these families had all their children in one place :)
Regards.
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Hi
Sorry to confuse you Sue. I meant did Philip and Ann have anymore children apart from William & Thomas and Millicent lol
As for Margaret Fewell she's more bleeding alusive than William. And she could possibly be a Mary according to the Baptism of her Grandaughter Anne in 1810.
I feel like giving up!!
Kath x
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I can see why it's likely to think our William is son of Philip and Ann because of the Milly/Millicent connection however if you take a look at the Takeley Records it seems that Millicent is a name that crops up more than once so is not unusually uncommon.
Kath x
Hi Kath,
Regarding your comment quoted above, although the name Millicent/Milly was not, as you state, unusually uncommon in in Takeley, I can't remember seeing more than about one in Felsted. I might be wrong stating that, either from a flawed memory or perhaps I overlooked some. Anyway, so whilst not letting the name Milly influence us too much, the fact that William & Margaret named a daughter Milly is I believe, still worth keeping in mind.
As for giving up, the William Tibbel I have searched for donkey's year finally turned up so there's more than a good chance we will sort out William & Co. one day. Not that I really think you would give up after all the time and effort you have put in to those ffewells ;)
Regards.
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Hi Kath,
Regarding your comment quoted above, although the name Millicent/Milly was not, as you state, unusually uncommon in in Takeley, I can't remember seeing more than about one in Felsted. I might be wrong stating that, either from a flawed memory or perhaps I overlooked some. Anyway, so whilst not letting the name Milly influence us too much, the fact that William & Margaret named a daughter Milly is I believe, still worth keeping in mind.
HI :)
I havn't disregarded this William at all.
William we know named a daughter Melly/Millic (which is i am sure definately short for Millicent)
I am just concerned that the name Philip does not show up further down this line if you know what i mean. This is why i would like to know where the Rev. Mills got his information from. (I did find out the Address of Rev. Mills wife and give it to Trevor (M.E.), if i can find it again i will write to her unless Trevor already has.)
I just think that William son of Thomas and Elizabeth Judd is also a very likely candidate to now.
And of course as you stated there is also William of William and Hannah of Felsted.
Do you know Hannah's Surname?
So there is at least 3 Williams
William bap 27/04/1740 Takeley s. of Thomas and Elizabeth Judd
William bap 21/11/1737 Takeley s. of Philip and Ann Judd
William bap 05/02/1744 Felsted s. of William and Hannah ??
there are obviously more candidates than just these 3 as when you look at Boyd's marriage index there are several Williams marrying around 1770
William Fewel M. 1770 Eliz Graigoose Gt Dunmow
William Fewel M. 1761 Sarah Hasler Gt Dunmow
William Fuell M. 1761 Eliz Green Takeley
now off on another Tangent
Philip Fuell who Marrried Ann Judd supposedly his parents are John Fewell and Elizabeth Green who married 1707 Gt Dunmow where was Philip Baptised cos he's not in the Takeley Records so is he in the Dunmow ones?
I just feel like we (more me than we) are going round in circles haha and my brain is begining to hurt.
Kath
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Hi Kath,
Sorry, no I don't know Hannah's surname, I haven't yet found William & Hannah's marriage. I only received the baptism info in 2005 and since then have only been back to the UK once (2006). Unfortunately during that visit, due to some family matters, I didn't get the time in the ERO I had hoped for. I'll check my research notes to see if I actually got round to looking for the marriage at all.
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Hi
Thanx, i know i am a pain in the backside haha
I just wish we could find out which one belongs to whom.
I need to go to the ERO and soon i think haha
K x
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Hi Kath,
You're doing a fine job with all the researching you have carried out, so I don't think anyone will consider you a pain in the backside.
Well that's my crawling done for the day, now back to the online Chelmsford burial PRs, ugh. :(
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I just thought i'd let you know i have looked at the PR burials for 1836-1891 (D/P 94/1/54) and have copied them into a data base however when i downloaded all the images they only go from Aug 1836 - Feb 1846 do you want me to send you a copy of it will save you trawling through the 60 odd images for that period :)
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Thanks for the burials Kath, it would be quite a while before I reached that period. At the moment I'm going through to 1761 (six year to go) just to prove that someone could have been alive to be married in another parish. A plentiful supply of cups of tea are keeping me going/awake. After 1761 I'll be looking Tibbles/Theobald names, if I haven't gone barmy by then ::)
Regards & Thanks
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Hi to all reading this, and a long overdue Happy New Year to you.
Have just been going through the latest postings on here - very interesting...and confusing in places. But Kath, you and Findem [and all the others of course] are doing a great job finding this elusive Fewell mob. I know I certainly appreciate all of your efforts. You certainly make me laugh at times Kath... How I wish I was in the UK and could help out going thru records etc. One day I hope. Until then I just await all new posts with interest.
Cheers
Julie :)
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Hi JUlie
Happy New Year to you, hun if we didn't laugh we'd cry haha
I need to look more into the 2 William Fewell deaths i think one who died in Gt Dunmow and the other at Great Waltham and try and back track both of them from there, i still think the one who died Gt Waltham is our best bet i need to see his death record at the ERO and see if it says pauper or owt next to it and see if there are any poor relief records for that period.
We know he was in Gt Waltham and Alive in 1810 so there's hope yet (i hope) lol
And if i can't find jack all out about this william i am going to link my tree to Royalty as their trees are EASY!!!!!! sod having a name like Jones,Smith or Brown what would we all do then?
Anyway TTFN and does anyone know what's happened to Trevor?? Hope he's ok ( he probably has better things to do lol )
Kath x
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Hey Kath, how u doin? As always I got a laugh out of your message, what a shame we're so far away from each other.
No joke - my maiden name IS actually Jones, honest. And you think tracing this Fewell line is hard. Much easier than my lot - trust me.....
Haven't heard from Trevor in ages. Hopefully he's getting notification of all these postings and as you say is probably otherwise engaged.
Had an email from a new Fewell researcher about 3 weeks ago. He'd seen a message I'd left on a web site [can't remember which one as I've put them on heaps]. He had very little info and I was unable to help him but I did suggest he post the message he sent me on this site under this particular heading to see if anyone else could help him. Obviously he hasn't done so yet as we'd have heard from him. Anyway, don't have the email he sent me as my hard drive died last Sunday and of course I lost all the info I had on it. Yes I know I've been told many times to back up - one of those things I was always going to do but never got around to. Oh well ???
Re the William Fewell bit, what does owt mean?
Bye for now,
Julie :)
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Hi Julie
In case Kath dosn't see this for a while, I'll answer you. "owt" is slang, basically, she means "pauper or anything else next to it".
Are your Milne's from Scotland? My late husband's middle name was Milne, named after his Great grandfather, I think and so is my eldest son's.
Sue
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Hi Sue, thanks for the explanation.
Yes my Milne's are from Scotland. Haven't been able to trace too far back unfortunately. William Milne b 1845 Forfar mar 16.08.1870 Odd Rode, Cheshire to Elizabeth Skerratt b 1845 Odd Rode. They had 3 children: Alice Maude b 1874 Manchester mar 1893 William Henry Bentley; William b 1880 Manchester never married and Rose b 1882 Cheshire never married.
William's occupation in the 1871 and 1891 census is engine fitter. His father I have as either Robert or James.
Cheers
Julie :)
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Hiya you lot
LOL 'Owt' means 'anything' sorry didn't mean to confuse you. I am hopefully going on MOnday to the records office as it's open till 8pm.
Julie i do feel sorry for you hun Jones must be awfully difficult to look up, but you'd think with a surname like Fewell it would be a darn sight easier than it has been.
From now on you can all call me your 'Royal Highness' or 'Maam' pmsl.
TTFN x
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Hi All,
Found these three entries, all on Chelmsford St Mary the Virgin PRs, Image 109 of D/P 94/1/2 on the SEAX system, you may have seen them but just in case here goes.
John Fule of Sanddonn? Singleman married Ursula Eye? of Moulsham Singlewoman 29th day of April 1634.
If anyone is interested it would pay to check the entry, I think I have Sanddonn (Sandon) and Eye right but of course the entries are in 17th century style writing and spelling. The capital E of the surname Eye was a concern, I checked other names beginning with C, P (in case it should be Pye) and S but it didn't match those letters.
John sonne of John Fule of Moulsham husbandman and Ursula his wife was baptysed 13th day of June 1634. Whoops!
Rebecca the wife of Thomas Fule of Chelmsford, Cooper? was buryed 22 May 1634. This entry is on the 1st column of the 1st page second entry from the bottom.
There may have been other Fule entries but since I was concentrating on five names other than Fule/Fewell I could have missed them. None of these were ffule.
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Hi All
Sue has kindly looked at the Barnston Fiche for me and there isn't much there i'm afraid.
(copied from e-mail sue sent)
John Reve wid married Mary Fewell spinster, both of this parish, married by Banns 15 feb 1770, both made their mark. Wit: Ann Fewell, Solomon Heath?? both made their mark. The F on the Fewell is exactly the same as the F of February.
The other one is James Fewel m Mary Flack/Flach by Banns 23 Oct 1810 both made their mark, Wit: Joseph Rorkef and Thomas ???.
Sorry, these are the only two I found. There was a lot of Newel's but they were definately N.
but it's 2 more we didn't have Sue so i greatly appreciate it you are a star and i owe you one.
Kath xxxxx
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Hi, just thought I'd join in to ask if anyone is researching the Fewell family from Great Canfield. I'm particularly interested in this family early 19th century and back into the 18th. Any help greatly appreciated.
Cheers Dave
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Hi Dave
thanx for the info on the other post, can you post it here so the canfield fewells can see it please and we will help as much as possible hun
Kath x
p.s the password to my tribalpages site is conner
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Hi again Dave
I am not at this present time linked into the Canfield Fewells but we all know at some point we will link up
Your Jane Fewell was born circa 1832 her parents were James Fewell & Elizabeth Doe
James was born circa 1803 Gt Canfield and Married Elizabeth circa 1825
James' parents were James Fewell circa 1778 Gt Canfield & Sarah Unknown
he in turn was son of Thomas Fewell 1755 Little Canfield & Sarah Bacon they married in 1777 Little Canfield
Thomas name is also spelt Fuell in some documents ie Boyds marriage index
the others may be able to get you further back than this because they have concentrated more on the Canfield side
K x
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Dave also try here
this site was done for pre 1837 registration FEWELL's it's by Trevor Fewell
http://www.trevorfewell.clara.co.uk/
kath x
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Great news Kath :) here's the info..................
James Francis, 24, lab, father James Francis married Jane Fewele (sic), 25, father James Fewire (sic), both of Great Canfield. Married 17 Oct 1857 at the Parish Church of Great Canfield. Everybody lived in GC. Witnesses were George Franklin and Giofn (looks like) Bacon.
I believe the Bacons were linked to the Fewells in earlier generations.
Thanks for the password ;D
Cheers Dave
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Thanks for the info, I'm sure they are all linked in somewhere.
Cheers dave
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Hi all
Has anybody come across a marriage between James Fewell & Elizabeth Stokes?
Sue
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Hi All,
Sorry Sue I haven't seen that marriage.
The following are some Fewells I noticed in the Chelmsford PRs (SEAX online). Most of you, if not all, are no doubt aware of them but to be on the safe side here they are.
Burial at St Mary the Virgin, Chelmsford.
Mary Fewel of Gt Waltham buried 19 June 1750, D/P 94/1/7 image # 133.
I noted this one mainly because she was away from home, there were probably others but at the time I was not looking for Fewells and so could have missed them.
Baptisms at St John the Evangelist, Moulsham on D/P 511/1/4, all children of Thomas Edmund & Emily Eliza Fewell.
James Ernest bap 16 Apr 1895, image # 19, page 35.
Henry Peter bap 2 Jan 1897, im # 29, pge 55.
Bertie bap 2 Dec 1897, im # 35, pge 67.
Emily Ellen bap 3 Jun 1899, im # 45, pge 87.
John born 4 Apr 1901 & bap 15 Aug 1901 im # 57, pge 111.
Percy born 27 Mar 1903 & bap 29 Aug 1903 # 70, pge 136.
The family address was 8 Wolsely Road.
In the baptism entries for the first 4 children the occupation for Thomas Edmund was stated to be a Leather Finisher. In the 5th child's entry a Labourer and in the 6th an Armature Hand. The occupation of Armature Hand would no doubt identify his employer as Cromptons, he probably started there sometime between 3 Jun 1899 and 15 Aug 1901.
Regards
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Hi Findem
Thanks for reply. I have been working on James Fewell & Eliabeth Doe for a few years now. A lot of people seem to think that James's parents were James Fewell & Sarah Fiddle, but I can't find any proof of this. James's parents could also be Philomon & Sarah. Or John & Elizabeth Lanham had a James who married a Sarah ? and they had a son James in 1803. So as you can see there are several possibilities.
Now a spanner has been put in the works because Stephen b 1850 who we thought was James & Elizabeth Doe's, actually belongs to James and Elizabeth Stokes.
I am now wondering if James married Elizabeth Doe, and she died and then he remarried Elizabeth Stokes, and it's her death in 1857, which made him a widow in the 1861 census, but I can't find a marrage.
Have I confused you yet lol
I am now going to have to get William's birth certificate and see who the mother is, also I need Isaac's but I can't find a GRO number for his birth in 1838.
As you can see the more I do on this family, the more confused I get.
Sue
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Dear Everyone who is related to the fewell family.
I am related to them too.
James Fewell and Elizabeth Doe are my G G G Grandparents. My Grandmother was Jessie Sewell and her parent's were Mark Sewell and Martha Anne Lucking, Martha's parent's were Charles Lucking born 1838 and Emma Fewell born 1843 Great Canfield. Emma's parents are James Fewell and Elizabeth Doe
Is this correct as I have only been doing my family tree since last summer.
Can anyone tell me any birthdays or marriages please?
Hope you did not mind me coming in on your subject but i find it fascinating
Regards
naafi girl :) :)
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Hi all
Has anybody got any birth certificates of James Fewell & Elizabeth Doe's children?
Because Susannah is not Elizabeth Doe's either.
Sue
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Does that mean that Jane Fewell (1832) is not the daughter of James and Elizabeth Doe? 1871 census shows both Stephen and Isaac Fewell lodging with their sister Jane's family at Bacon End, Great Canfield. As I understand it Jane Fewell married James Francis.
I'm a newcomer to this branch of the family (Great Canfield) and would appreciate any help. Obviously it's not all it appears at first sight.
Cheers Dave
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Hi Dave
I just don't know. The trouble is the parish records just have James Fewell & Elizabeth. As James Fewell and Elizabeth Doe married in 1825 everyone, I think has assumed that is who the parents are of all the children that say James & Elizabeth.
Maybe the ones in the 1841 are Elizabeth Doe's.
Maybe Elizabeth Doe died and James remarried Elizabeth Stokes or
Maybe the James that married Elizabeth Stokes is a different James. I can't find a marrage for them.
All I know is that Susannah & Stephen are Elizabeth Stokes and not Elizabeth Doe. I am waiting for William's birth certificate to see who his mother is. As for Isaac I havn't been able to find a GRO reference for him, so I can't order his birth certificate. I know he was baptised 26/1/1838, but I don't know his birth. If he was born in the first half of 1837 then there won't be a ref for him.
If Isaac, Emma & William's mother was Elizabeth Doe, then where was she is the 1841 census. There was an Elizabeth Doe working as a servant in the 1841, did she keep her maiden name where she worked. Also there was an Elizabeth Fewell in Chelmsford Gaol in 1841 wife of James, could this be her, or had she already died. So many questions.
If anyone out there has any answers, let me know, before I go round the twist lol.
Sue
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Hi Sue & all,
To save me ploughing through the many postings on Fewell Family what time frame would you expect the marriage of James Fewell & Elizabeth stokes to have occurred in?
I am looking to see what parishes are on the ERO's SEAX online system, can't find a list so I'm just keying in parish names and seeing what comes up. So far found Chelmsford, Springfield, St John Moulsham, Maldon St Peter & Maldon All Saints. I would be happy to check for the the James Fewell & Eliz Stokes marriage in any parishes I find.
Maybe other researchers interested in the Fewell name could keep their eyes peeled for the marriage whilst carrying out their own research.
The SEAX online system is all I can do from Australia but if you haven't found the marriage by 2008 I'll be in the UK and the ERO so I could keep the marriage in mind then.
Might help if you could list the parishes you've searched so far for the marriage?
It's just a thought so feel free to ignore it ;D
Maybe what we need on this topic is a collective Fewell hit list? When you consider that there are quite a few of us, we all no doubt have numerous family names to research and will search equally numerous Parishes/time frames looking for them. With all of us keeping a lookout, surely there must be a reasonable chance of picking up some of the so far missing Fewell events.
Regards.
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Hi All
I would just like to say one of my relatives has got there marriage on 13th Oct 1825. I am not sure yet how they found it yet but I am trying to find out more and will let you know.
Regards
naafi girl :)
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Hi Findem
At the moment I can't say. I would think between anywhere between 1822 and 1847. When I get Williams birth cert and find out who he belongs to then I may have a better idea, because he was born 1843, I'm going to send for Emma's as well I just wish I could find Isaac's.
Sue
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Hi naafi girl
15 Oct 1925 is the marrage of James Fewell & Elizabeth Doe, and that's from Parish Records.
Sue
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Dear Susie1
Do you know I was on my way to work this morning and I realized what I had done wrong, So I am very sorry :-[
Regards
naafi girl :)
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Hi Naffi girl
Where abouts are you, are you in the UK?
Sue
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Hi Naffi girl
I found an Emma living in West Hanningfield in 1861 age 19, she was a servant. I wondered if this was James's Emma. You have answered that question now you have said she married Charles Lucking, as he was born in West Hanningfield. Do you have date of birth for her?
Sue
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Sorry I meant date of death. oops
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Hi sue
Yes I live in the UK. I am sorry I do not have her death yet. They got married at West Hanningfield on 8th Oct 1864. Charles died in 1929 at 48 Wood St, Chelmsford, Essex.
James Fewell born 1778 was baptized 3rd May 1778.
My Grandmother lived in West Hanningfield all her life we know the village very well and hope to go there very soon to find more info.
Speak to you soon
naafi girl
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Hi naffi girl
Thanks for the marriage date for Charles & Emma. But you have lost me on the James born 1778. Which James is this? Your not referring to the James that married Elizabeth Doe are you?
Sue
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Hi Naffi Girl
It's ok I realise now your referring to the James son of Thomas & Sarah. This is the James that everyone thinks is father to James who married Elizabeth Doe. But there was also a James born 1768 to John Fewell and Elizabeth Lanham, he could also be the James that married Sarah.
Sue
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Hi all
Well Emma belongs to Elizabeth Stokes as well. Not Elizabeth Doe) Birth 06/09/1841.
Sue
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Got William's today and he belongs to Elizabeth Stokes are well.
Sue
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Hi All
I am on Dad's PC mine is still down i'm afraid, and i don't have time to trawl the board. i hope to be back online soon :)
so who belongs to James Fewell and Elizabeth Stokes
(birthdates as well if poss)
Hope you are all well
Kath xx
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Hi you horrible lot haha
I am back online YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Trouble is got to transfer files from old PC to new one so will still have to Bare with me guys sorry
OOOOOO and my microfiche is now working after all the trouble i had it was a dodgy bulb lol
Am trawling the Great Waltham C,M,B from 1703 to 1782 at the minute and copying it all up by hand for easier ref lol tis taking a while as you can imagine
let me know if there are any names (apart from Fewell) you want looked up on the fiche.
will chat to you all soon i hope
TTFN
Kath x
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Hi Kath,
Glad you're back on line and your viewer works again, I know what you mean about transferring files over, I just recently went through it myself. I'm now going to have to copy my emails onto this computer, getting fed up with having to go into the old computer to see what I've stated before. I've had a spate of emails form contacts that I haven't heard from in ages.
Could you keep your eyes peeled for three entries for me please.
The marriage of Alexander Hart and Elizabeth ? around 1745.
The link between Gt Waltham and Alexander is a bit weak but his grandfather John Hart was baptised 18 Nov 1665 at Gt Waltham.
Baptism of John Tibbles (Theobald, Tibbald, Tebbal or any other variation) around 1749 or of an age to marry Elizabeth French in 1774 at Chelmsford. Even around 1740 would be OK, the main prerequisite is that he's old enought to marry in 1774.
Baptism of Elizabeth French around 1753.
I have nothing to suggest John and Elizabeth were baptised at Gt Waltham but since Gt Waltham is only a stone's throw from Chelmsford, it's a possibility, clues are scarcer than hens teeth. I've tried Springfield and Moulsham via the SEAX system but no luck. I've only recently found their marriage and the baptism of my elusive gt x 3 grandfather William Tibbel (Theobald) plus his siblings.
Regards.
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Hi Derek
No Probs i will go look now for you.
Just to let you know i didn't recieve a notification of your post :( hope rootschat is not going to play me up again
I have been in touch with a gentleman via genes whom is also related to Sophia Fewell and Thomas Searle. He has joined this forum and is awaiting his verification e-mail.
Hopefully he will be here soon. He's on your time Derek out there in Sunny Oz so not sure what time of day he will be posting (bst)
Hope all is well with you and yours and i will be in touch asap if i can find what you are looking for hun
Kath x
Also Derek i need to pick your brains, you know you said William & Margaret Fewell had a daughter Elisabeth in 1768 where was it, because i have looked at the Great Waltham Fiche and i can't see her as being baptised there, was it Felsted or do i need to look again?? lol
K xx
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Hi Kath,
According to my records Elizabeth Fewell was baptised 24 April 1768 at Gt Waltham 9/6/07 (it was actually Felsted), pretty sure Gt Waltham is right but if you can't find it then try Felsted, I could have transcribed it incorrectly. it's rumoured that I occasionally make mistakes, hard to believe I know ;) Let me know how you get on please.
Thanks for keeping your eye open for me, I didn't mean for you to look right away, only as you go through the fiche in your own time.
I received notification of your last two posts so perhaps you should click on the "notification" box for the subject, just in case it has somehow been changed.
Yes we are all OK here and hope you and yours are the same.
By the way I will be off line for a few days as of this coming Monday.
I also had contact regarding Sophia Fewell and Thomas Searles from a Warricker, same one?
Regards.
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Hi Derek
LOL you make mistskes i don't beleive it :-*
I have looked but i'll check again , cos i know i make far more mistakes than you hun!
Still not getting notification ???
All my brood are ok, driving me batty but i suppose it don't take much to drive me mad, i'm not the sanest person i know anyway lol
And yes it's the same Warwick :)
Hopefully chat again soon when you are back online
TTFN
Kath xx
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Hi everyone,
It's taken me over an hour to read these last 16 pages and I wish now I'd taken notes of who is researching who!! Anyway, my Fewell connection is as follows:
William Fuell (later Fewell) c1725 and his wife Mary had two sons (that I know of) - Thomas Fuell c1755 and William Fuell c1756. They were both born in Little Canfield, Essex.
Thomas married Sarah Bacon on 17 Aug 1777 in Great Canfield.
William married Susannah Clarke on 9 Dec 1782 in Great Canfield.
I have the descendants for both Thomas and William but Thomas is from my direct family line. If anyone is interested in seeing my tree please let me know... I am hoping that it is correct but am a little worried after reading this thread, especially the part about James Fewell and Elizabeth Doe!
Daviery - you seem to have the closest connection to my tree as Jane Fewell was the sister of my great great great grandmother, Mary Fewell.
On a side note, it was only fairly recently that I discovered John Fewell c1740 who most of you have an interest in wasn't from my tree! I was told several years back that he was the brother of 'my' Thomas and William so I had done quite a bit of research on him only to dicover that John's brothers were totally different Thomas and William Fewells.
Kathy :)
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Hi Kathy
I would very much like to see your tree please. And especially any info you have on the John b c1740. I will pm you, with my email address.
We have a John born around 1740 ish but can't find any birth. There are no records in Great Canfield for the time when he would have been born. So we have been looking in other places. There was one born in Takeley, but I understand there was a family in Little Canfield but are not sure if they had a a John or not. He married Elizabeth Lanham in 1768 Great Canfield, but he was a widow when he married her. His previous wife was I think Mary ?.
As for James and Elizabeth Doe..... Have you been able to confirm for definate that Sarah, Mary, Jane and possibly Isaac are Elizabeth Does. Because I havn't been able to find any concrete info on this.
I know for sure that Emma, William, Susannah and Stephen are not Elizabeth Does.
Sue
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Hello All .......
Just to let you know that I'm still around and kicking ! My silence has mainly been due to a lack of notifications (in part) and pressures of work and family (in the main). Having seen all the marvelous exchanges and persistence shown by you folks (especially you, Kath and Sue) I feel inspired to get back into the fray once more.
So - I've made a promise to myself that I'll update the Essex Fewells website over the next few months and will no doubt be asking for data and clarifications. This said, I was happily surprised to find that I had Kath's Moreton names on there already and also many of those mentioned by Kathy (Hello Kathy - great to see you - sounds like you've got lots of interesting information, especially on a branch of the Fewell family that hasn't been mentioned/researched/published quite as much).
On the Moreton names, Kath, I think the important thing is that it highlights the fact that there are probably a fair number of small parishes in the Takeley - Dunmow - Great Waltham triangle the records of which we haven't explored .... YET !
TTFN
Trevor
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Hi Sue,
I have emailed you but thought I'd reply to your questions here incase anyone else is interested (or knows otherwise!).
John Fewell b1742 (I checked the year and it's 1742 not 1740 like I said before) was born in Takeley, Essex. He had twin brothers called William and Thomas who were born 1740 also in Takeley. Their parents were Thomas Fewel and Elizabeth Judd.
I only have a record of John marrying Elizabeth Lanham so can't tell you about his previous marriage.
'My' William b1755 and Thomas b1756 were born in Little Canfield. Their father was called William.
The names I have for James Fewell and Elizabeth Doe's children are: Sarah, Mary, Jane, William and Isaac. Whether this information is correct or not I can't say. Until reading this thread I hadn't ever condidered that James married twice and both times to an Elizabeth.
Kathy.
P.S. Hello Trevor, I am sure we have had contact in the past as I have your Fewell website on my favourites list. :)
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Hi M E,
Pleased to hear/see you are alive and kicking.
Hey Kath! Did you find Elizabeth Fewell 24 Apr 1768 at Gt Waltham (it was actually Felsted), or did the unbelievable happen ;)
Regards to all.
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HI All
Derek no she is definately not there i did look more than once hun.
Trev i have sent you a PM
Welcome Kathy xx
I cant stop (Derek & Sue i hope trevor will explain on my behalf)
Be safe all and take care
TTFN
Kath xx
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Hi Kath,
I know you won't be reading this for some while, M E has sent me a P M explaining the situation.
In the mean time I will go through my research notes to recheck the Elizabeth Fewell entry to see what the problem is. Pity I can't just nip out to the ERO and recheck Felsted, oh! for the "Beam me down Scotty technology" :(
Regards,
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Hi All,
Sorry Kath, Elizabeth Fewell, daughter of William and Margaret was baptised 24 April 1768 at FELSTED, not Gt Waltham :-[
I will go into the other posts and modify them in case They lead someone else astray.
Regards
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All ....
I've just been on the Church of England database for Clergy and found a very old Fewell entry. It's for:
Christopherus Fewell who was appointed vicar of Whaddon (Cambs in the diocese of Ely) in 1565
If memory serves me correctly there was another Fewell who was a vicar at around this time - just over the county line at Withersfield, Suffolk - so quite an eruption of them !
If I've read the record correctly Christopherus may have hailed from Yorkshire and returned there in the 1570s.
I hope this is of interest .....
Aye
T
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Heres some info for you to add to the data base
Emma Fewell born 5/10/1837 to Samuel Fewell & Eliza Johnson
Martha Fewell born 28/5/1843 to William Fewell & Sheba Lee
Male Fewell born 24/6/1844 to William Fewell & Sarah Witham
I'll be back soon
Derek & Trev
Thanx so much for your kind words i will pm you both soon xxxxxxxx
TTFN
Kath xx
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I was browsing a transcript for Ugley in Essex and noticed these burials
1747 Dec 14 Isaac FEWELL gardener
1752 Jan 26 Sarah widow of Isaac FEWELL gardener
They were the only entries for that name* amongst all the c,m, b for that parish.
*including the usual variants. There were, however, some entries for the name of FREWELL going back to 1500s
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Hi Clincher .....
Thanks for that, very valuable, input. As you'll have seen we're desperately short of pre 1750 Fewells. This entry, whilst still within comfortable range of the Takeley 'homelands' of that era, does push the boundary further North West than before. In fact, are we getting near to the then county line with either Herts and / or Cambs ? Any thoughts ?
If you have the chance to let us know more about the Frewell entries, I for one, would be grateful
Aye
ME
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Hi All
I think our elusive William Fewell may have had a brother SAMUEL
What we know is on Williams marriage to Margaret in 1768 it says he's from the parish of Great Waltham. So we must assume that this is where he was living in 1768.
I have a marriage 27/9/1774 of a Samuel Fewell to Sarah Wood (he was also a witness to another marriage in 1772) this also states that Samuel is of the Parish of Great Waltham.
Do we know of any Samuels being born circa 1750 maybe we could try and find him and if we do we might just might find William.
A long shot i know but at the minute we seem to have exhausted our options unless we buy the whole of the baptisms fro Essex.
Tell me what you all think.
Hope you are all well
TTFN
Kath xx
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Hi All
I think our elusive William Fewell may have had a brother SAMUEL
What we know is on Williams marriage to Margaret in 1768 it says he's from the parish of Great Waltham. So we must assume that this is where he was living in 1768.
I have a marriage 27/9/1774 of a Samuel Fewell to Sarah Wood (he was also a witness to another marriage in 1772) this also states that Samuel is of the Parish of Great Waltham.
Do we know of any Samuels being born circa 1750 maybe we could try and find him and if we do we might just might find William.
A long shot i know but at the minute we seem to have exhausted our options unless we buy the whole of the baptisms for Essex.
Tell me what you all think.
This is a big possible burial for Samuel Fewell
Little Waltham
1. Samuel FEWEL Date 2 Nov 1817 Aged 69 Place Little Waltham Description St Martin Denomination Anglican
Hope you are all well
TTFN
Kath xx
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Hi Kath
Samuel Fewel died 2 Nov 1817 aged 69 Little Waltham (NBI)
Sounds like a possible to me.
Take Care
Sue
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Hi Kath and Sue ....
First things first - great to see that you're both around and OK. I'll try to send you personal messages in the next few days (i.e. before I go back to work after a two week break).
I see no reason why Samuel couldn't be a sibling of 'our William' and so I agree that it's worth using that as the basis on which to check out more. It's entirely circumstantial but William named one of his sons, our forebear, Samuel - and this could have been in recognition of his brother (or uncle or cousin).
Is there an other mention of Samuel in the Little Waltham PRs ... his birth would be good ! Maybe as a witness at somebodies wedding or as a parent ???
Did we ever establish just how many sub-parishes to Great Waltham or were categorised as Great Waltham in the records. It's probably a bee in my bonnet, but I keep wondering if we just haven't accessed all of the PRs in the overall Great Waltham parish/catchment. Kath's discovery of a link to some names in Moreton illustrates the point that there are 'Fewell' or 'Fewell related' entries out there which are still to be uncovered.
TTFN
Trev
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Hi Trevor
Nice to hear from you.
John Fewell who married Elizabeth Lanham also named one of his sons Samuel and we still don't know who John's father was, where John was born or when. So maybe if we find one we might find them all lol
Take Care
Sue
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HI All
I am just off to the records office again. Am checking the overseers accounts for GT Waltham and ordering the Little Waltham Fiche if i get a chance i will look at them too.
Gotta go be back later let you know if i found anything,
TTFN
Kath x
Well i am back and i didn't get a chance to look at the Little Waltham records but i did order them, so will check them out as and when i recieve them.
As for the Overseers records (Poor relief) for Gt Waltham Blimey!! they gave me the books and they were huge!!!! (ERO ref:- D/P 121/12/1 & D/P 121/12/2)
I only managed to look at years 1816,1817,1818,1821,1822 and that took me 3 an a Half hours!!
Well the info i found was interesting but not helpful as such. I am surprised the at how much money they paid out in 1 week and what they gave you money for. To name a few they paid for Rent, Shoes, Shovels,Coffins, Beds, Beer & Cheese for Funerals, Medicine, Doctors Bills, Midwifrey, Sheets plus loads more. A truly facinating read next time i go i will check the other years.
Right bet your all wondering what i found well i am not posting here it will be on my thread as there is so much so go take a look.
And by the way i am not getting notification of posts again
Kath x
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Hi all,
Found the following in the online (SEAX system) PRs for Great Parndon. D/P 184/1/4, image # 17.
Ann of James and Mary Fewel (or Fewell?), born December 1811 and baptised 5 January 1812.
So far I have checked Baptisms 1548 to 1649 & 1657 to 1812. Marriages 1548 to 1644 & 1659 to 1751. Burials 1547 to 1645, 1657 to 1680 & 1704 to 1812. No other Fewell entries were found, some of the entries were not easy to read and although I wasn't looking for Fewell (or any name) in particular, I don't think I've missed any. I've yet to check the 1754 to 1815 Banns and Marriages so if any turn up I'll post them.
At the end of the 1812 burials there was an interesting comment from the Rector of Great Parndon, John Johnson. He wrote "A new Register was begun at this period under a most unnecessary & absurd act of Parliament", obviously not a happy chappy.
Regards.
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Hi D x
I wonder if these Fewel(l)'s at Great Parndon are directly related? Great Parndon is only about 8km from Moreton or are they related with the Fewel(l)'s that seemed to have come from the North Weald area?
Looking at the map i suppose they could have come from any of the areas we have been interested in over the years or they could have migrated from the other way and originated in Hertford.
very interesting to say the least
Do we know of any James Fewell & Mary marriages?
Thanx for this information Derek :)
K xx
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Hi Kath
Just seen your thread, wow you have been busy lol
The only marriage I have any record of for a James & Mary is a bit late, its 21/10/1820. James Fuel to Mary Akerman, Chingford.
Sue
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Hi Kath,
Just finished Great Parndon marriages 1754 to 1812 and Banns to 1 Jan 1871, not a Fewell in sight. That's all that can be done online in the Gt Parndon registers, so now I'll move on to Lt Parndon.
I wouldn't have a clue where that Fewell couple came from, if they had baptised other children in Gt Parndon the names may have provided a clue, as it is we have only three names, James, Mary & Ann. I have no info of a James Fewell & Mary marriage and only one James of an age to have fathered a child in 1812, he of course is the James who married Ann Perrin in 1806. It will be interesting to see if anyone comes up with a possible marriage.
We seem to keep on hitting brick walls :'(
Regards to all.
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Hi All
Thanx for that info Sue i added it to the other thread :D I wanted to have a thread that had all the info in one place without the chat so it was easier to locate the information rather than trawling the 18 pages with have here ;D ;D ;D
There is a James Fewel & Mary Flack Marrying in Barnston in 1810, but it seems quite a way from Barnston to Great Parndon, but it's not impossible i suppose.
I have looked at Little Parndon and what a difference in names compared to the Great Parndon records. There are no Fewell's @ Little Parndon either i had a look.
Derek if you see this before you start there are no Tibbolds either on d/p 34/1/2 or d/p 34/1/3 i looked, but of course i have no idea what other names you are looking for.
If you check d/p 34/1/3 first it gives an index to earlier marriages births and burials in nice easy hand writing lol
TTFN
Kath x
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Thanks for the tip Kath, I'll continue with Lt Parndon though, I'm half way through. I'm not really searching for any particular name, just noting any connected with my long list of names. Hoping of course to find the odd stray or even just a lead. It is frustrating not being able to visit the ERO, searching the online PRs gives me the feeling of being able to"do something". I suppose it's akin to a junkie getting a fix ;D. When I am able to visit the ERO I can't afford the time to search the PRs from cover to cover, so it's great to search the PR's in the comfort of your own home, even if they are not the ones you want/need to search.
I reckon anyone who can't find a baptism, marriage or burial might find it worth giving Lt & Gt Parndon a try, the number of "strangers" being baptised, married or buried there is amazing. Even a baptism on18 Dec 1736 of Elizabeth the daughter of William & Mary Iron?, poor travellers of Moreland Parish, West Moreland, they had come a fair way!
Did a James & Mary Fewel raise any children in Barnston after 1812?
Regards to all.
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Hello xx
Yes it's astounding how many were infact 'Strangers' well worth taking a look at the Parndon's i may just copy them up into excel for future ref as there are so many.
James and Mary Fewell of Barnston, I have no idea if the had any children in Barnston as the fiche i have only goes up to 1812 for Baptisms so it's possible they did, i will have to have a look when i next go to the ERO.
K xx
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Hi to all reading this, hope everyone's fit and well.
Does anyone have any info on John Fewell b c1790 [son of William and Margaret Twinn] and Mary Ruffle? All I have is their marriage date 10.08.1812 Chignal St James and nothing else about either of them. Any info at all would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers
Julie
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Hi All,
Looks as though there's an info drought on John :o
I've lost track of John c1790, so can someone refresh my memory please. Where did the info which indicated William & Margaret had son John born circa 1790 originate from? I presume a census return but I would like to make a note of the source in my records, somehow I neglected to do so. I can't even remember where I got the info from in the first place, must be a seniors thing :(
Does anyone have marriage details for two other children of William & Margaret, Elizabeth and Milly/Melly?
Regards to all.
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Hi Findem
According to my notes.
stillborn Fewell 20/01/1770 Gt Waltham
Mary Ann Fuel 17/03/1776 Gt Waltham m James Rumsey 1800
James Fewell (bap.26/10/1783) 1778 Gt Waltham d 06/07/1824 age 46 m Anne Perrin 24/04/1804
William Fewel 24/01/1779 Gt Waltham m Frances Pavett
Milic Fewell abt 1784 m William Eve 09/07/1804
Melly (Molly) Fuel (bap. 16/06/1786) 18/06/1786 Gt Waltham
Samuel Fuel 01/03/1789 Gt Waltham d 20/08/1865 m Sophia Childs 1809
John Fewell 1790 Gt Waltham
Sophia Fuel 15/05/1791 Gt Waltham m Thomas Searle 14/11/1809
Sue
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Thanks for that Sue, I'll cross check my records against yours, while I wait for someone to post Elizabeth's marriage ;D
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Hi again, aren't Milic & Melly/Milly the same person?
I only found one entry in the Gt Waltham PRs and that was for a Melly/Milly baptised 18 Jun 1786, mind you I could have missed an entry, I suppose.
Regards
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Hi
Yes I think your right. I do remember this conversation a couple of years back.
I must have forgotten to alter my notes. I know I found both entries on my IGI of Essex fiche and they both had a different spelling, but I think we all decided it was one and the same person.
John I only have a year 1790 no other details for him. And I have no Elizabeth at all.
Sue
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Hi Sue,
Of course I'm right, I alway am, just ask my wife ;D
You may have missed the info regarding Elizabeth, it should be in this topic somewhere.
As you know William Fewell married Margaret Twinn 3 May 1768, their first child Elizabeth was baptised 24 April 1768 :o, I double checked that entry.
Keep that info to yourself, we don't want every Tom, Dick and Harry finding out our family skeletons.
Regards.
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Hi All
hope you are all ok.
I believe Millic/Melly is the same person, but as my Great Waltham Records only at this present time go up to 1782 i can't really double check the spelling of the name, but i will do when i order the next lot of fiche.
You may or may not know i ordered the Little Waltham Fiche and i have had a quick look through and guess what to my great surprise there are NO Fewells or variations at all ( apart from Samuel Fewell being a witness to a marriage again in 1874)
I was quite shocked by this, as you know it's William Fewell i am looking for born circa 1730-1750 so i have been ordering fiche to definately cover those dates. I at least expected a couple of Fewell's to pop up as L. Waltham. is next to G. Waltham and there was not one at least we can rule out Little Waltham now. But it wasn't just the name Fewell not turning up that surprised me as you know i always look out for Searl(e)'s , Playle's & Perrin's there was one Perrin and NO Searles or Playles which is quite common in G. Waltham.
The next biggest place according to streetmap.co.uk is Pleshey & Great Easter so i will order these fiche next.
I am wondering if William was not baptised or changed his name.
As for Elizabeth Fewell she was born in Felsted and i have not come accross her in anything i have researched.
Be a lot easier if we had a Margaret Fewell death (or another marriage for her) but even that has proved impossible to find.
Kath x
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Hi all
As this is not my direct line, I may have missed some bits and pieces along the way, so ignore me if this has already been covered.
I assume that all the birth entries have Margaret as mother against them, so that ties in with the marriage entry, but what about the death of Mary Fewell in 1818 does anyone know who she is? and did anybody note the death of the person above in this entry, could Mary have been written wrong.
My sister has come across this a couple of times, they have searched and searched for people, only to finally realise that the name has been written down wrong and the vicar has written the first name of the person above.
Only a thought.
Sue
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Hi all, hope everyone is fit and well etc.
Does anyone have any old pics of any old Fewell's at all that they'd be willing to share? Be nice to see what some of these folk looked like.
Cheers
Julie
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Hi all,
Just finished the Netteswell PRs on the SEAX system and didn't find one Fewell there. Netteswell had a fair number of entries of people from various parts of Essex and Herts.
Regards.
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Hi Julie
try this link
http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/result_details.asp?strPath=/MainMenu.asp&intNoToDisplay=10&strOrderBy=RANK%20Desc&intOffSet=0&intThisRecordsOffSet=1
kath
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Hi all
As this is not my direct line, I may have missed some bits and pieces along the way, so ignore me if this has already been covered.
I assume that all the birth entries have Margaret as mother against them, so that ties in with the marriage entry, but what about the death of Mary Fewell in 1818 does anyone know who she is? and did anybody note the death of the person above in this entry, could Mary have been written wrong.
My sister has come across this a couple of times, they have searched and searched for people, only to finally realise that the name has been written down wrong and the vicar has written the first name of the person above.
Only a thought.
Sue
Sue, this is the only female Fewell Death in Great Waltham that fits but i just cannot claim her as Margaret without proof.
Margaret was down as Mary Twin on one of her Granchildrens Baptism records in 1812 in Moreton. I think i need to double check the Moreton Records as they give quite a bit of information.
Think i will need to take out a mortgae by the time i find this elusive pair if i ever find them.
Hope all is well with everyone.
TTFN
Kath x
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Hi Kath. Hope all's well.
Thanks for the link. I do remember seeing these a couple of years back [I'd forgotten about them actually].
TTFN
Julie
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Hi everyone. I'm after some info please if anyone is able to give it to me - death dates for the following Fewell's if anyone has them also any children from their respective marriages [all are children of Samuel Fewell and Sophia Childa, all b C St J]:
Thomas b 1808 married to Mary Brewer;
William b 1811 mar to Ann Saltwell;
Samuel b 1815 mar to Elizabeth Johnson and
Sarah b 1825 mar to John Rayner.
Thanks heaps in advance.
Cheers
Julie
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Hi guys, sorry me again with another question. Who was the Samuel Fewell who married Eliza Johnson C St J 31.10.1835.
Cheers
Julie
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Hi Julie
Samuel Fewell is the son of Samuel & Sophia who married in 1835 to Eliza(beth) Johnson
Kath x
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Hey Kath, thanks for that. Are you able to help me with the message I posted before that one?
Julie
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Thomas Fewell married Mary Brewer 1832 C st J
Caroline Elizabeth 1834
Thomas Childs 1835-13/12/1902
Sophia 1837
Mary 1840
Sarah Ann 21/2/1843
Elizabeth 1846
Edmund 1854
William Fewell & Ann Saltwell
George Fewell 1840-1901
Samuel Fewell married Eliza JOhnson 31/10/1835
Emma c1839-1895
Harriet c1840
James 31/7/1842
Mary Fewell c1817-1897(daughter of Samuel & Sophia) married in 1836 to Thomas Turner c1813-1886
James c1839
Alfred 1841-1871
Lucy 1844
William c1847
Samuel c1850
Emma c1852
Sarah c1854
Arthur 1857
George 1861
dont have any children for Sarah Fewell & John Rayner.
K x
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Trevor has the Chignal St James parish records on fiche so he should be able to confirm dates (if it's the period he has)
I should really buy the fiche for C st J as it is there we are all working back from.
K x
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Thanks Kath. Re the pics. Is the Arthur Fewell in the pic the same Arthur Childs Fewell b 1862? I have found a marriage of an Arthur Fewell to Harriet in 1881. I'm assuming it's the same person. Do you know who he is the son of and also who is Herbert Fewell?
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Sorry Kath but another question.... [you can tell me to bugger off] ;D who is the Sarah Fewell that married John Riley [widower] 18.12.1830 C St J?
Julie
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Thanks Kath. Re the pics. Is the Arthur Fewell in the pic the same Arthur Childs Fewell b 1862? I have found a marriage of an Arthur Fewell to Harriet in 1881. I'm assuming it's the same person. Do you know who he is the son of and also who is Herbert Fewell?
I believe it is arthur Childs Fewell yes and Herbert Fewell 1890-1959 was son of Arthur Childs Fewell & Harriet Gladwell
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Sorry Kath but another question.... [you can tell me to bugger off] ;D who is the Sarah Fewell that married John Riley [widower] 18.12.1830 C St J?
Julie
Now this is a new one to me Julie, i have no idea i am gonna have a look on the 1841 census see if ican see when she was born
wont be long
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Sorry Arthur Childs Fewell is the son of Thomas Childs Fewell 1835 - 13/12/1902 & Elizabeth Harrington 6-4-1843 -24/11/1928 they married 26/4/1861 @ St James Church, CHignal St James
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Thanks Kath. I thought it was you that actually sent me all this info - Boy's Marriage Index, National Burial Index etx. This marriage of Sarah is listed under 'Jack Baxters marriages' C St .
So is Herbert Thomas's grandson?
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Well on the 1841 census @ Church Green, C st J Sarah Riley is 60 and her husband JOhn is 70 both born in Essex. I have no Sarah Fewell born circa 1781 on my records. So i havnt a clue who she is.
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Thanks Kath. I thought it was you that actually sent me all this info - Boy's Marriage Index, National Burial Index etx. This marriage of Sarah is listed under 'Jack Baxters marriages' C St .
So is Herbert Thomas's grandson?
LOL probably me that sent it to you hun, my memory isn't very good
Yes Herbert is Thomas' Grandson
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OK got that, thanks. This Mary who married Thomas Turner - I never even had her listed. The children of Samuel and Sophia Childs I have are Thomas, William, Samuel, James and Sarah [and now Mary]. Is that all?
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Kath can you pls tell me who the parents of Thomas Childs Fewell were.
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Yes that's all for Samuel & Sophia's children
I looked at the 1851 census and Sarah is still alive stating that she was born c1777 Chignal St James. and Formerly a Nurse.
Looks like her death was registered J-M 1854 Chelmsford
Thomas Childs Fewell's parents were Thomas Fewell & Mary Brewer
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Thanks Kath for that. I wonder who this Sarah belongs to? Do you have the children for Thomas and Mary at all?
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Thomas Fewell married Mary Brewer 1832 C st J
Caroline Elizabeth 1834 - married William Palmer 1857 Islington
Thomas Childs 1835-13/12/1902 - married Elizabeth Harrington 26/10/1861 Chig St James
Sophia 1837 married Henry Jones 1861 Chelmsford Registration District
Mary 1840
Sarah Ann 21/2/1843
Elizabeth 1846 married JOnas (jonah) Gladwin 1889 Chelmsford Registration District
Edmund 1854 married Emma Collins in 1883 both died in 1900 same quarter same place ( if i remember correctly)
Here they are i posted them on page 19 for you but you must have missed it hun lol ;)
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Thanks heaps for this Kath I really appreciate it. Sorry, must be having a seniors moment ;D
I'll leave you alone now - [until I find something else I need help with].
Thanks again and you have a good day
TTFN
Julie xx
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No probs Julie anytime hun ;D
Got nothing else to do much really lol how sad is that
TTFN
K x
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Not sad at all, you're just starting your day and I'm just about finished mine [almost 10pm here]. Here I am home on my lonesome, now that's sad, [hubby working nightshift and my son staying at his girlfriends] :D
Bye till next time
Julie
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Oh no not her again [says Kath]. ;D Just been going thru some 1881 census records. There is a Thomas Fewell b 1835 C St J with wife Elizabeth. Is this the same Thomas who is the son of Thomas Fewell and Mary Brewer do you know?
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Hi all. Kath pls ignore my last post [I found the answer myself].
Another query pls if someone has this info - I'm after the children of:
John Fewell b c1791 and Mary Ruffle. I know only of a daughter Sarah who married a James Moss;
Mary Ann b 1766 who married James Rumsey and
Melly b 1786 who married William Eve.
Thanks heaps.
Julie
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HI Julie
I have not added John Fewell to my tree as i have not found a confirmed link to him and William & Margaret.
As for the others i havn't a clue i have not been working on them really hun, all the info i have will be on GenesReunited, you have access to that don't you??
Kath xx
added
I have added the JOhn to my tree as a son of William & Margaret but i have added a note along with it as he is unconfirmed, unless you can confirm him for me Julie lol
as for Mary Ann i didn't have a marriage for her?, when/where did she marry James Rumsey?
My records do not cover the period for Melly & Williams marriage or children born which would have been after 1804 the records i have only go up to the 1780's sorry mate
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Hi Julie
I have
Benjamin Eve bapt. 19/07/1807
Eliza Eve bapt 29/09/1811
Ann Eve Bap. 02/07/1809
all great waltham
as children of Melly & William but these are taken from IGI so are not confirmed.
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I need help please guys
As you all know i am not just concentrating on my Fewell's but all them that are on the BMD indexes
I have a Fewell i need help with.
James Fewell (Fuell on 1851) (circa 1803-1813 Moreton End, Essex) and Mary Fletcher (circa 1822-1831 Laindon,Essex)
Children
Elizabeth Fletcher Fewell J-S 1838 Dunmow
Katharine Fewell 26/02/1845 Stock (Chelmsford Registration District)
Jeremiah Fewell 24/12/1846 Stock " " "
Ann Fewell J-M 1849 Chelmsford
James Fewell A-J 1851 Chelmsford
Lucy A Fewell/Fletcher circa 1861 (Stock,Essex according to census)
Mary Fletcher A-J 1853 Chelmsford
William Fewell/Fletcher circa 1854 (Ramsden, Essex according to census)
James Charles Fletcher A-J 1842 Chelmsford (Great Baddow, Essex according to census)
Now this is what is confusing me Mary Fletcher was James Fewell's housekeeper according to the 1851 census (HO107; 1775; 145; 30) she is down as being unmarried even though by this time there have been several children born,(but all listed on the 1851 census as Fletcher). So i ordered 2 of the childrens birth certificates (Jeremiah & Katharine), which came today.
Now because she (or James) states on the census that Mary is the unmarried housekeeper, i expected as they registered a few of the childrens names in Fewell that both parents would be on the birth cert, to make it look like they were married, which they have BUT!! on Katharines birth cert it states her father is James Fewell and her mother is Mary Fewell, late Kelly formally Fletcher.. Now i am assuming Fletcher is her maiden name and that she did indeed marry a mr Kelly (or would it be the other way round?), so why state on the census she is unmarried???? IS it possible that Mr.Kelly didn't die and leave Mary a widow, but the marriage broke down and she reverted back to Mary Fletcher?
Then to top it all off on the 1861 census (RG9; 1078; 112; 14 )she states she is Mary Fletcher and is married and all the children appear as Fletcher even though she is still with James Fewell and i have some of the birth certs to say their births were registered as Fewell.
Throw some ideas or reasonings at me guys please, this family have really confused me and they also dissapear after James dies in 1877 (cant find them in 1871 census either) (am awaiting death cert to confirm it's correct James).
There is no marriage on the BMD for James Fewell to a Mary Fletcher or Mary Kelly, and if she did indeed marry a Mr.Kelly when???? as the first child born (Elizabeth Fletcher Fewell) is in 1838!
Gis a hand guys please
Thanx
Kath xx
btw i think that James Fewell is the son of William Fewell & Frances Pavett, which would make James the grandson of William Fewell and MArgaret Twin(n)
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Hi Kath
Hope all's well in your part of the world.
Going back a few posts to one of mine dated Oct 24. I have Mary Ann Fewell marrying James Rumsay 1800 Finchingfield. I know your next question is where did I get the info. Must break this bad habit of mine in not writing down who gave it to me, sorry.
Cheers
Julie
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Hello Kath
I have Elizabeth Fletcher Fewell as the daughter of John Fewell and Maria Clarke and therefore the sister of my ancestor William Fewell. I was given this information by another researcher who gave her a date of birth of 3 August 1838.
I will check further.
Barbara
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Hi Barbara
Hope you are well :)
Thank you, it was just an assumption she was the daughter of James Fewell and Mary Fletcher because of the middle name, i will apply for all the childrens certs to see what is going on, i will also get Elizabeth Fletcher Fewell's just to make sure, unless whoever told you can get a copy in which case any chance they can send a copy to you so you could pass it onto me,
I will change the info i have on Elizabeth Fletcher to what you have told me and just await confirmation from you or the birth cert hunnie
Thanx so much ;D
K x
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Am adding my post to this page so no-one has to go backwards and forwards between pages xx
I need help please guys
As you all know i am not just concentrating on my Fewell's but all them that are on the BMD indexes
I have a Fewell i need help with.
James Fewell (Fuell on 1851) (circa 1803-1813 Moreton End, Essex) and Mary Fletcher (circa 1822-1831 Laindon,Essex)
Children
Katharine Fewell 26/02/1845 Stock (Chelmsford Registration District)
Jeremiah Fewell 24/12/1846 Stock " " "
Ann Fewell J-M 1849 Chelmsford
James Fewell A-J 1851 Chelmsford
Lucy A Fewell/Fletcher circa 1861 (Stock,Essex according to census)
Mary Fletcher A-J 1853 Chelmsford
William Fewell/Fletcher circa 1854 (Ramsden, Essex according to census)
James Charles Fletcher A-J 1842 Chelmsford (Great Baddow, Essex according to census)
Now this is what is confusing me Mary Fletcher was James Fewell's housekeeper according to the 1851 census (HO107; 1775; 145; 30) she is down as being unmarried even though by this time there have been several children born,(but all listed on the 1851 census as Fletcher). So i ordered 2 of the childrens birth certificates (Jeremiah & Katharine), which came today.
Now because she (or James) states on the census that Mary is the unmarried housekeeper, i expected as they registered a few of the childrens names in Fewell that both parents would be on the birth cert, to make it look like they were married, which they have BUT!! on Katharines birth cert it states her father is James Fewell and her mother is Mary Fewell, late Kelly formally Fletcher.. Now i am assuming Fletcher is her maiden name and that she did indeed marry a mr Kelly (or would it be the other way round?), so why state on the census she is unmarried? IS it possible that Mr.Kelly didn't die and leave Mary a widow, but the marriage broke down and she reverted back to Mary Fletcher?
Then to top it all off on the 1861 census (RG9; 1078; 112; 14 )she states she is Mary Fletcher and is married and all the children appear as Fletcher even though she is still with James Fewell and i have some of the birth certs to say their births were registered as Fewell.
Throw some ideas or reasonings at me guys please, this family have really confused me and they also dissapear after James dies in 1877 (cant find them in 1871 census either) (am awaiting death cert to confirm it's correct James).
There is no marriage on the BMD for James Fewell to a Mary Fletcher or Mary Kelly, and if she did indeed marry a Mr.Kelly when? as the first child born (James Charles Fletcher) is in 1842!
Gis a hand guys please
Thanx
Kath xx
btw i think that James Fewell is the son of William Fewell & Frances Pavett, which would make James the grandson of William Fewell and MArgaret Twin(n)
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Hello again Kath
I have dug out the correspondence on Elizabeth Fletcher Fewell which took place in 2001.
The researcher has the marriage certificate of Elizabeth Fletcher Fewell who married George Rolf/Rolfe on 20 May 1861. On the marriage cert she gives her father's name as John. He also has her birth certificate. She was born in Great Canfield 3 August 1838 the daughter of John Fewell and Maria nee Clarke.
I believe the Rolfs were living next door to John Fewell and his son Isaac in the 1871 census but will check.
Another researcher suggested that Maria Clarke's parents were James Clarke and Elizabeth Fletcher married at High Roding in 1800. This would account for the middle name of Fletcher.
I will try to contact the researcher who gave me this information.
Barbara
Did I give you the details from the death certificates of William Fewell and Hannah Ann Fewell nee Morrell?
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The Rolfe family is next door to John Fewell in 1871. In 1861 Elizabeth Fletcher Fewell is living with her father in High Roding. She has 2 illegitimate children.
This does all seem to check out.
Barbara
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Hiya Barbara
Thanx so much for the info on Elizabeth F Fewell , for some reason i didnt even have her on the marriage index which i have now ammended, your a star ;D ;D ;D
And no you didn't give the death details on William & Hannah hunnie
K xx
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Hi Kath
Will PM you the details for William and Hannah. I will also check the rest of my 2001 vintage information in case I have some more Fewell details that may be useful.
I have not looked at this family for a while so it is a good opportunity to check and update what I have.
Will probably be later this week - kick me if I forget :)
Barbara
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HI Barbara
thanx so much hun your a star xx
Be nice to add some more to the data base, dunno what i'd do without you ;) ;D
Kath x
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Hi all
Just a short line to let you all know that I lost Brian yesterday. He fought long and hard over the last 18 months to combat the MND and now he is at peace.
Sue
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Sue
So sorry to hear such sad news.
I will be thinking of you.
Barbara
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Hi Sue,
Very sorry indeed to hear of your loss, I know there is nothing I can say to give you comfort but I will be thinking of you and wishing you the strength to bear the loss.
Regards.
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We are truly sorry for your loss Sue
We are all thinking off you hunnie
Love
Kath, Paul & Family
xoxoxox
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Hi all,
Found a couple of Fewells at Gt Baddow, unfortunately no other info attached to the entries. :(
George Fewell, aged 8 yrs, buried 25 Nov 1797.
Thomas Fewell, aged 11 yrs, buried 28 Dec 1799.
Info from Gt Baddow fiche, D/P 65/1/4, fiche 1 of 1.
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Hi all,
Thought I'd post this to give you a "heads up" to draw your attention to a new topic posted on this board by Louisa Maud regarding George Fewell c1841 of Chignal? I know some of you would probably have an interest in George.
Regards.
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Thanks Findem, I couldn't find this topic hence the new one by me yesterday, it may be useful to someone
LM
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Hello Guys
Having trawled over the last 21 pages which i hasten to add took me 2 hours...with a small break for refreshment
I am none the wiser lol
Anyway A kind gentleman Pm'd me about the Fewell family and he is in touch with the grandchildren of Arthur Fewell & Harriet Gladwell. The grandchildren are in their late 70's and still live in the Waltham's
now the gentleman in question Alan has been speaking to the grandchildren for me and here is a quote from one of his e-mails
"Rita said that their Grandparents were Arthur & Harriet at Chignall, then Thomas their Gt Grandfather. She thought that maybe some previous generation might have come from Thaxted area, but wasn't sure"
Well she may not be sure but surely it's another small lead for all us resarching William Fewell & Margaret Twin
What defines the Thaxted area? How far is Takeley from Thaxted? How far is Felstead from Thaxted?
Also having looked as you all know at Little & Great Waltham PR's for a couple of years now there is only one other FEWELL (thats contempery with William in age) and that is Samuel FEWELL who was in Great Waltham in 1772 when he is a witness to a marriage and also in 1774 when he married Sarah Wood his marriage states he's of Great Waltham. Samuel was buried in Little Waltham in 1817 aged 69 which gives him a birth year of circa 1750....this is to much of a coincedence for me and I am assuming he may be Williams Brother until it can be proved otherwise. There are no bap. in G or L Waltham for Samuel so he just seems to appear in the early 1770's about the same time as William appears in Great Waltham!!!
So does anyone have any records of a Samuel Fewell being bap/born circa 1750
In a previous post it says John Fewell & Elizabeth Lanham had a son Samuel but when was this?
What years are misssing from the Thaxted Pr's?
I'd like to find a birth for this Samuel and also see if he has a brother William......
Can you all look at your notes and see what you have please...
Hope everyone is well
K xx
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Hi Kath,
I found these some years ago:
Children of Thomas & Catarino ffewell, both baptised at Thaxted, a note in my "Spares" database states there was no other info attached to the entries.
Daniel 21 Feb 1714.
Mary 26 Dec 1716.
I wouldn't have been searching for Fewells at Thaxted so these two were probably just noticed in passing, it's possible there are others.
Time for bed.
Regards.
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Hi Kath
Samuel of John Fewel & Elizabeth Lanham are mine.
Samuel was born 1775 Great Canfield and died 1839 South Weald. His siblings are James b1768, Charles 1769, Elizabeth 1771, Ann 1773, Alice 1776, William 1778, Philomon 1781, Sarah 1783, Lucy 1785.
It's John & Elizabeth that I can't get passed. They married in Great Canfield 3 Feb 1768, but I don't know where or when he was born. He was married to Mary before Elizabeth and had a son called John b1766.
I did wonder if maybe he was son of Thomas Fewel & Elizabeth Judd m 20/07/1735 Takeley. they had William 27/4/1740, Thomas 27/04/1740 &
John 3/10/1742.
Hope everyone is keeping well.
Take care
Sue
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Thanx D & Sue x
Ahh so that Samuel is far to late to be considered.
God this is becoming a nightmare
These 2 families have got to link up somewhere Sue i am positive of that just wish we could both get past our brickwalls
Anyway I will soldier on and see if there is anything else on the 'houdini's' of the Fewells
Yeah we are good here thanx
Hope all is well your end
I will have to take a look at the Thaxted records unless Kevan wants to look as i believe he has the records on fiche
I'll have to Pm him
K x
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Hi all,
A couple of Fewells I found during my recent (short) time at the ERO.
Chignal Smealey.
Looking for the Eve family I found Grace? daughter of James Fawell/Fewell baptised 19 Aug 1604 on D/P 351/1/1, that might have been amongst marriages because it appears in amongst some marriages in my notes.
Little Leighs.
Thomas Fewell, abode Black Notley, buried 3 Nov 1836 aged 77 years, on D/P 151/1/7.
I was searching the Lt Leighs burials 1820 1915 for John & Hannah Fletcher, Thomas was the only Fewell I noted in that period.
Only had time for 2 days and 2 hours at the ERO :o, now having withdrawal symptoms.
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I noticed a lone Fewell burial in Ashdon D/P 18/1/5 online image 12
1705 Fewell John
but no Fewell/Fuell baptisms seen between 1650s and 1730s in Ashdon.
Apart from Saffron Walden places near Ashdon are Hadstock, Helions Bumpstead, Little Walden
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I would be interested to know if anyone has come across this couple :
William Fewell [~1785-1843 London] & Mary Harrison [1783 Whitechapel-1832 Lambeth]
married 23 May 1805 St Mary Whitechapel, London
their children [more or less born in around London]
Rebecca b. 1806
William Harrison b. 1808
Eliza[beth] b.1814
Sarah Ellen b. 1820-1822
Maria b. 1829
I would like to know William's parents.
Thanks for any help
Odile Pryor :-*
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Hello Odile
Sorry I haven't come across that family. My Fewells did move to London but not until the early 1880s.
Barbara
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Hi Odile,
I haven't seen anything regarding that couple but then I haven't searched outside Essex for Fewells, if you get nowhere with your query on this (Essex) board and you haven't tried the London board, you might get lucky there.
Good luck
Merry Xmas to all.
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Hi Fewelly's
It's been a long time since I have been on here but I need some help please and who better to ask ;)
Right I have a
William Fewell bc 1824 Great Leighs- died 8/8/1870 Little Waltham.
married 14/8/1849 Lambeth
Mary Ann Passey
Williams will states he's formerly of Felsted now late of Little Waltham
I know his father was also a William bc 1791 Essex, Mother Mary bc 1786 Essex (according to 1841 census)
I wonder if anyone could confirm if this is William Fewell and Mary Thurgood who married in Terling in 1813
xoxoxoxox
Kath
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Hi all,
Hope you are all OK.
Re William Fewell bap 5 Feb 1744 at Felsted the son of William and Hannah Fewell.
Just wondering did anyone ever find the marriage of William Fewell and Hannah and did anyone ever manage to find more children of theirs, or even evidence of where the family went to after Felsted?
I was looking at my Family Group Sheet for the family of William Fewell/Fuel and Margaret Twinn and saw the note for William and Hannah Fewell so I thought check if anyone has had a breakthrough regarding William and Hannah.
I have from time searched what few facilities are available to me but not recently on the ERO's Essex Ancestors, I am hoping to use Essex Ancestors when the cooler months arrive in Australia and the grass growth slows. Got a list of searches as long as your arm so I'm not sure if a William and Hannah search will fit in, seeing as I have no leads to go on.
Regards.
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Hi All,
Hope you are all well, come to that hope you are all alive and kicking. ;D ;D
I’m wondering if anyone followed up on the Fewell info we received From Trevor Mills?
If my notes are correct, the advice we received was:-
Robert Fewell married in April 1581 Suffolk.
Giles Fewell born abt 1581 Withersfield, Suffolk marr Elizabeth ?
Daniel Fewell born abt 1620 Thaxted.
Daniel Fewell born abt 1645 Thaxted.
John Fewell Fewell born abt 1678 married Elizabeth Green 1707 Dunmow, Essex
Philip married Ann Judd 26 Dec 1736 at Dunmow, parents of William 21 Nov 1737
That scenario is very feasible and Withersfield is only a few miles over the Essex/Suffolk border and not that far from Thaxted.
I’ve just had another crack at verifying the Trevor Mills info and here is what I’ve managed to ascertain:-
From Family Search
Robartt Fewell married Marie Boughtell 20 Apr 1581 at Withersfield, Suffolk.
Giles Fewell son of Robartt & Marie Fewell baptised 12 March 1581 at Withersfield, the only child I could find for Robartt & Marie on Family Search.
Aegidii (Giles) Fewell married Elizabetha Trueman 29 Jun 1603 at Thaxted, Essex. Note that Giles and Elizabeth’s first child was named Marie. 7 children found baptised at Thaxted 1604 to 1621 possibly 8.
Daniel M Fewell son of Egidii (Giles) & Elizabetha Fewell baptised 7 Oct 1621 at Thaxted.
Daniel Fewell married Anna Carter 22 Sep 1644 at Thaxted.
Daniel Fewell son of Daniel & Anna Fewell baptised 1646 (no day or month given) at Thaxted
Daniel Fewell married Sara Wood 1669 at Thaxted, from both Family Search and FindMyPast, neither site showed day or month.
John Fewell married Elizabeth Green 1707 at Great Dunmow (from FindMyPast)
Philip Fuell married Anna Maria Judd 26 Dec 1736 at Takeley (not Dunmow) Essex. This and later Essex Fewell families were researched by myself and others in the relevant parish registers.
I can only find one child (Giles 1581) of Robartt and Marie Fewell with the resources I can access from Australia, nor can I determine/verify the Suffolk to Essex link.
I would like to know if anyone has been able to prove the link, if there is one, between the Giles Fewell son of Robartt and Marie Fewell baptised 12 March 1581 in Withersfield Suffolk and the Giles (aka Aegidis in PRs) Fewell who married Elizabetha Trueman/Trewman 29 Jun 1603 at Thaxted Essex?
Also did anyone ever hear from Trevor Mills again after his initial approach to us?
I recall Trevor was going to try and access his father's genealogy records in a computer which he stated was located in his mother's house but as I recall that's the last we heard of him. I tried to contact him via PM on here but no response.
Hope to hear from you even if it's just a hi to let me know you're alive and well.
Regards,
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Hi I'm alive and kicking still. Didn't do much more on the Fewell side after Brian died. Mostly because it was his mothers side and all was not well there at the time of Brian's death. You seem to have got on a lot further since last speaking.
I have been doing my mothers side Crow, Bridge and Rayner who are also from Essex.
Keep well. All the best. Sue
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Hi Sue,
Thanks for replying, nice to know at least one of the crowd is OK. ;D
Sorry to hear of your problems, shame when we lose someone that unwanted other problems have to rear up.
I restarted on the Fewell line because although I've a list as long as your arm awaiting Essex Ancestors searching, I've a lot more work on the garden to do before I can commit time to Essex Ancestors. So as it was raining cats and dogs and looking for something to research for free I came across my notes of the Trevor Mills info and off I went.
Good luck with your research and health.
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Hello you motley lot.
I am scouring the parish records weekly on line. The data base between 1837 and 2007 is extensive. But anything I have before that is only as I come across it.
As far as I'm aware none of us heard from Trevor after he said he'd look into to verifying it.
I've even been going to the local churches etc. but still no joy.
I am hoping we will get there one day.
Hope everyone is well x
Kath x
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Hi everyone
I am still around but haven't done a lot on the Fewells for a few years now. I am not sure we even found a link between my branch and everyone else's and, if we did, what it was!
I am descended from William Fewell who married Hannah Ann Morrell in 1851. He was the son of John Fewell and Maria Clarke.
Barbara
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Hi Kath and Barbara,
Great to see you are both OK.
I had noticed the odd post by you Kath so I guessed all was well with you, hope your family is OK, thanks for the response regarding Trevor Kath, I thought that would be the situation.
I have some feelers out on RootsChat to try and prove that the Giles Fewell born in Withersfield Suffolk 1581 is the same Giles Fewell who married Elizabeth Trueman 1603 at Thaxted Essex but I have a gut feeling nothing will come of them.
Should that proof come to hand I will put it on this topic.
Regards to all.
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HI All
I am just off to the records office again. Am checking the overseers accounts for GT Waltham and ordering the Little Waltham Fiche if i get a chance i will look at them too.
Gotta go be back later let you know if i found anything,
TTFN
Kath x
Well i am back and i didn't get a chance to look at the Little Waltham records but i did order them, so will check them out as and when i recieve them.
As for the Overseers records (Poor relief) for Gt Waltham Blimey!! they gave me the books and they were huge!!!! (ERO ref:- D/P 121/12/1 & D/P 121/12/2)
I only managed to look at years 1816,1817,1818,1821,1822 and that took me 3 an a Half hours!!
Well the info i found was interesting but not helpful as such. I am surprised the at how much money they paid out in 1 week and what they gave you money for. To name a few they paid for Rent, Shoes, Shovels,Coffins, Beds, Beer & Cheese for Funerals, Medicine, Doctors Bills, Midwifrey, Sheets plus loads more. A truly facinating read next time i go i will check the other years.
Right bet your all wondering what i found well i am not posting here it will be on my thread as there is so much so go take a look.
And by the way i am not getting notification of posts again
Kath x
does anyone know what thread i put this info on? lol
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Sorry Kath but another question.... [you can tell me to bugger off] ;D who is the Sarah Fewell that married John Riley [widower] 18.12.1830 C St J?
Julie
Now this is a new one to me Julie, i have no idea i am gonna have a look on the 1841 census see if ican see when she was born
wont be long
Well on the 1841 census @ Church Green, C st J Sarah Riley is 60 and her husband JOhn is 70 both born in Essex. I have no Sarah Fewell born circa 1781 on my records. So i havnt a clue who she is.
Well a few years on and there are several Sarah's born circa 1781 that this could be.
Sarah Fewell Bapt 29/08/1779 St Michaels, Braintree to John Fewell & Ruth Slaughter. DIED 1779
Sarah Fewel Bapt 11/10/1789 Bocking to Thomas Fewel & Mary Bribus DIED 1814
Sarah Fewell Bapt 22/01/1786 Felsted to Thomas Fewell & Rachel Burls
Sarah Fewell Bapt 04/05/1788 Great Easton to Daniel Fewell & Mary Kirkham
Sarah Fewell Bapt 24/08/1772 Hatfield Heath to John Fewell & Sarah
Sarah Fuel Bapt 25/12/1790 Rochford to Isaac Fuel & Susannah Long
Sarah Fuel Bapt 19/11/1775 Takeley to Philip Fuel & Sarah Bentley
And i probably have some death or marriage records for the above Sarah's.
K
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Hi all,
Hope you are all OK.
Re William Fewell bap 5 Feb 1744 at Felsted the son of William and Hannah Fewell.
Just wondering did anyone ever find the marriage of William Fewell and Hannah and did anyone ever manage to find more children of theirs, or even evidence of where the family went to after Felsted?
I was looking at my Family Group Sheet for the family of William Fewell/Fuel and Margaret Twinn and saw the note for William and Hannah Fewell so I thought check if anyone has had a breakthrough regarding William and Hannah.
I have from time searched what few facilities are available to me but not recently on the ERO's Essex Ancestors, I am hoping to use Essex Ancestors when the cooler months arrive in Australia and the grass growth slows. Got a list of searches as long as your arm so I'm not sure if a William and Hannah search will fit in, seeing as I have no leads to go on.
Regards.
Hi D
I still have no information on the above i'm afraid.
I am sure they will fit in somewhere though, they have to.
K x
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Hi all,
Hope you are all OK.
Re William Fewell bap 5 Feb 1744 at Felsted the son of William and Hannah Fewell.
Just wondering did anyone ever find the marriage of William Fewell and Hannah and did anyone ever manage to find more children of theirs, or even evidence of where the family went to after Felsted?
I was looking at my Family Group Sheet for the family of William Fewell/Fuel and Margaret Twinn and saw the note for William and Hannah Fewell so I thought check if anyone has had a breakthrough regarding William and Hannah.
I have from time searched what few facilities are available to me but not recently on the ERO's Essex Ancestors, I am hoping to use Essex Ancestors when the cooler months arrive in Australia and the grass growth slows. Got a list of searches as long as your arm so I'm not sure if a William and Hannah search will fit in, seeing as I have no leads to go on.
Regards.
Hi D
I still have no information on the above i'm afraid.
I am sure they will fit in somewhere though, they have to.
K x
i Have looked at this entry and it is William son of William & Hannah Burls
So we can now cross this one off of the list.
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Hi Kath,
Hope you and yours are OK.
Thanks for that info Kath, I shall make a note of that info in a couple of my databases just in case I grow forgetful. ;D Glad to see the back of this query it's really bugged me.
Haven't done a great deal of research lately just chipped away at the fringes but now I'm starting to feel more like my old self in the way of motivation, I think before long I'll get myself a Essex Ancestors sub and get back into things.
A couple of Theobald families I've found in parish registers on The Genealogist have given me hope that I may at last get my Theobald line back to the 1600's, just need to check burials and marriages to make sure they were free and able to link, fingers crossed.
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Hello All
I hope everyone has been OK through this tough time of Covid-19.
We are all well here.
I keep trying to come back to working on William Fewell's parents, and i have decided that Philip Fewell/Fuel(l) & Ann(e) Jud(d) are definitely NOT his parents.
I have come to this by a process of elimination.
William Fewell died 1829 states in his will he has a brother Thomas (died 1836 black notley) and a sister Susanna(h) Little.
The only family i can find with a Susanna that fits is daughter of Philip & Ann baptised 1740 Takeley.
Philip & Ann also have a son William bapt 1737.
This William states he has 2 sons Philip & Charles in his will. so NOT my William Fewell who married Margaret Twin(n)
There are several missing years in the Takeley records and i am taking an educated guess that Thomas the other son is bapt in those years.
K
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Hi Kath,
That's startling news!
Was there an age given in the 1829 burial entry for William?
So, we need a Fewell family with a William, Thomas and Susannah, have you any clues, I would be happy to lend a hand with research if you want.
Regards
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Hi K.
Following your post I had a look at what I have for William Fewell and his wife Margaret Twin(n).
Surprised to find I hadn't a burial for both William and Margaret, so I checked out Ancestry's Essex Parish Register Index, Free Reg and Family Search, I failed to find that 1829 burial you mentioned.
What I did find was a William Fewell buried 28 Aug 1822 at Gt Waltham, aged 86 which would see him born about 1736, pretty close to the William son of Philip baptised 1737 at Takeley. As we know, other than William and Margaret's first child Elizabeth the remainder were all baptised in Gt Waltham, which is where I would expect William to be buried although not necessarily so.
Knowing the amount of work you have carried out on Gt Waltham I expect you were aware of that burial, have you found something to discount that burial as being of the husband of Margaret Twin?
I did by the way fail to find the burial of Margaret.
Regards.
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The 1829 Will is for William Fewell who was of the Little Canfield branch. William's burial 13 Jan 1829 notes his residence as Cloudesley Terrace and aged 73 years. The residence is the same as his will proved 15 Jan 1829 and the age matches a baptism 6 Feb 1756 to a William Fewell and Mary who resided at Little Canfield. The brother Thomas mentioned is noted in the Will living at Black Notley (Black Nottey near Braintree) and his burial is found 3 Nov 1836 noted residing there aged 77 years matching a baptism 10 Feb 1760 to William & Mary in Little Canfield. The Susannah sister is likely to be another and not the same child of Philip and Ann with a missing baptism.
The issue of William Fewell who married Margaret Twinn is still unknown as the 1737 baptism has strong supporting evidence for the William Fewell who married Elizabeth Green, not only was a Philip Fewell a third witness at their wedding at Takeley in 1761 when only two was sufficient, but William and Elizabeth had a son called Philip baptised 1764 at Hatfield Broad Oak when that family was noted residing at Brewers End in Takeley. William Fewell in Takeley was also witness to a marriage in 1766. Philip born 1764 had two attempts at a daughter called Millicient 1802 & 1805 and the name Philip extended to William's eldest son James who married at Sawbridgeworth noting a witness as Philip Fewell in 1788. James' third son was Philip Fewell/Fuell who continued the Philip name down this lineage.
Philip Fewell and Ann Judd had two further sons Philip Jr. and Jeremiah, each who also had a son called Philip, supporting William also very likely had a son called Philip.
William who married Margaret Twinn was in Great Waltham from at least 1768 as noted in his marriage. Since that William had a son called Samuel, there is very likely a connection to a different Waltham area Fewell family with a Samuel Fewell buried 2 Nov 1817 aged 69 (born c. 1748) at Little Waltham.
Also worth considering is the burial 1750 for a Mary Fewell at Chelmsford who is noted of Great Waltham suggesting a different Fewell family lineage may have resided south of Great Waltham attending a Chelmsford parish. It is highly plausible this Mary is William and/or Samuel's mother. A Mary Fell was baptised 24 Apr 1743 at Writtle to a Philomon & Sarah evidence the name existed around the Chelmsford area separate to the Takeley branches with plausible spelling variants.
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Thanks for that input Lord Vader, it's very very interesting.
I've made a copy which I will print off and study at leisure to get my head around matters.
Of course my/our research was long before Ancestry's Essex Parish Register Index (EPRI) came into being and really wasn't making much headway. Then after further research and lots of discussions on RootsChat and other means plus the message from the Reverend Mill's son, I came round to the theory of the Suffolk to Thaxted and then to Takeley etc line.
My Fewell line starts off with Sophia Fuel (Tuel on the EPRI ::)) who married into my Searles, her parents were definitely William and Margaret (nee Twinn) Fewell/Fuel.
I have recorded William and Thomas sons of Thomas and Elizabeth Fewell baptised 27 Apr 1740 at Takeley. Thomas Fewell married Elisabeth Judd 26 Jul 1735 at Takeley.
Also a William Fewell who married Elizabeth Green 7 Dec 1761 at Takeley.
Not sure if it's noted on this topic so as I'm running out of time I'll note it here, the Rev Mills considered that the Philip Fuell who married Ann Judd was the Philip son of John Fuell/Fewell and Elizabeth Green baptised 6 Jun 1714 at Little Canfield. John and Elizabeth married 3 Jun 1707 at Gt Dunmow by licence.
Looks like I have work to do.
Regards.
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Hi Lord Vader,
Forgot to ask do you have Fewell ancestors?
Regards.
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Hi Findem,
My Fewell or Fuells migrated to New Zealand in the late 1800s, they stem from Philip Fewell/Fuell and Sarah Hawkins. Philip was baptised 1799 at Sawbridgeworth to James Fewell & Sarah Gladwin. James was baptised 1766 at Hatfield Broad Oak to William Fewell and Elizabeth Green who at the time lived at Brewers End in Takeley. There is a DNA connection between myself and another descendant of William and Elizabeth via their son Philip Fewell who married Ann bird and via their daughter Milly (aka Millicent, Amelia) Fewell who married Charles Clarke.
I am more of the understanding that William who married Elizabeth Green is the correct son of Philip Fewell and Ann Judd due to ample evidence to suggest this is correct including Philip signing William's marriage certificate in 1761 as a third witness. The name Philip has been commonly used in every generation since William down my line well into the 1900s.
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Hello All,
I hope everyone is well.
As it's been 2 years since i last posted, I thought i'd better check up on you all.
Nothing as changed within the Fewell debacle.
Still no further forward with William Fewell Great Waltham.
The 1837- present Fewell database is coming along, always managing to find a snippet here and there to add to it.
One day we will get to the bottom of it all i hope.
K
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Hi Kath,
Hope you and yours are OK.
It would be great to find a really definitive solution to the "Fewell debacle" but it seems elusive.
Regards.