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Title: More Essex surnames
Post by: julied on Tuesday 01 June 04 09:17 BST (UK)
Hi guys, also looking for info re:
Maria PERRIN b 1860, d 1893
Elizabeth TURNER b abt 1820
Sophia CHILDS chr 1784 Chignall St James, d 1845, father Thomas Childs
Ann PERRIN marr James Fewell 1804 Moreton
Many thanks,
Julie
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: jaq on Thursday 03 June 04 18:56 BST (UK)
re:      Maria PERRIN b 1860, d 1893
           Elizabeth TURNER b abt 1820
what area in Essex?

and chignall st james as in chelmsford?

jaq
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: julied on Friday 04 June 04 09:14 BST (UK)
Hi Jaq, thanks for replying.  I'm not in the UK so place names are a bit of a struggle for me.  The 1881 census shows Elizabeth Turner b 1820 Lt Dunmow, Essex.  The Civil Registration Index has Maria Perrin b June quarter, 1860, Chelmsford, married Dec quarter 1882, Chelmsford.  I know she died giving birth to her daughter Maria Agnes Fewell [my hubbies G'mother] who was born 26.10.1893 Chignall, Writtle, Chelmsford.
Cheers,
Julie
Title: Re:More Essex surnames FEWELL
Post by: jaq on Friday 04 June 04 10:57 BST (UK)
Fewell in 1861 chelmsford census index:
FEWELL   ADA   16      1079   \105   CHM Chelmsford
FEWELL   ALICE A   17      1079   \105   CHM
FEWELL   EDWIN   11      1079   \105   CHM
FEWELL   MARY A   47      1079   \105   CHM
----
FEWELL   ARTHUR P   4                     1079 \70   CHM
FEWELL   CAROLINE M   6   1079   \70   CHM
FEWELL   ELIZA   41      1079   \70   CHM
FEWELL   JULIA   21      1079   \70   CHM
FEWELL   KATTE   3      1079   \70   CHM
FEWELL   ELIZA   15      1079   \70   CHM
FEWELL   MARY ANN   12                   1079   \70   CHM
FEWELL   HENRY JOHN   10   1079   \70   CHM
FEWELL   JOHN   46      1079   \70   CHM
---
FEWELL   EDWARD   13      1079   \   89   CHM
FEWELL   ELIZA   48      1079   \   89   CHM
FEWELL   JOHN   47      1079   \   89   CHM
FEWELL   JOHN   17      1079   \   89   CHM
----
FEWELL   CHARLES   18      1078   \   99   WHF
FEWELL   EMMA   19      1078   \   94   WHF
FEWELL   JAMES   48      1078   \   112   STC
Title: Re:More Essex surnames FEWELL
Post by: jaq on Friday 04 June 04 12:13 BST (UK)
FEWELL IN WRITTLE 1861:

FEWELL   ELIZABETH   15   1080\99  CHJ Chigwell st james
FEWELL   EDWARD J   6   1080\99     CHJ
FEWELL   MARY   48       1080\99  CHJ
FEWELL   THOMAS   51                            1080\99    CHJ
FEWELL   THOMAS C   26   1080\99    CHJ
FEWELL   SOPHIA   23                    1080\99    CHJ
FEWELL   SARAH A   18                             1080\99   CHJ
----
FEWELL   CHARLOTTE   8   1080\100   CHJ
FEWELL   ELIZABETH   66   1080\100   CHJ
FEWELL   ELIZABETH   40   1080\100   CHJ
FEWELL   GEORGE   13                  1080\100   CHJ
FEWELL   HENRY   11      1080\100   CHJ
FEWELL   JAMES   38      1080\100   CHJ
FEWELL   JAMES   1       1080\100   CHJ
FEWELL   LUCY   5       1080\100   CHJ
FEWELL   MARY   3       1080\100   CHJ
FEWELL   SAMUEL   72                    1080\100   CHJ
FEWELL   WILLIAM   18                             1080\100   CHJ
---
FEWELL   JAMES   18         1080\102   CHJ

FEWELL   SAMUEL   47                    1080\102   CHJ
----
FEWELL   WILLIAM   50                      1080\97   CHS

FEWELL   ANN   44           1080\97   CHS
--
FEWELL   ELIZA   44            1080\122   BRM

FEWELL   SUSANNA   9                        1082\41     SPF
FEWELL   WILLIAM   71                                1081\119   GLH

sorry about the layout, i'll get it right one day! :)
jaq
Title: Re:More Essex surnames -THE CODES
Post by: jaq on Friday 04 June 04 12:37 BST (UK)
the place codes are
Parish Name        Code  Piece No    
Buttsbury          BTT   1078              
Chelmsford & M     CHM   1079         
East Hanningfield  EHF   1078              
Fryerning          FRY   1078            
Ingatestone        IGS   1078          
Margaretting       MGT   1078            
Rettendon          RTD   1078              
Runwell            RNW   1078                
Sth Hanningfield   SHF   1078              
Stock              STC   1078            
West Hanningfield  WHF   1078            
Widford            WID   1079          
Woodham Ferrers    WDF   1078
Boreham            BRH   1081                
Broomfield         BRM   1080      
Chignal St James   CHJ   1080      
Chignal Smealy     CHS   1080      
Danbury            DBY   1082        
Good Easter        GES   1080      
Great Baddow  ***  GBD   1082        
Great Leighs       GLH   1081      
         and             1081      
Great Waltham      GWL   1081      
Little Baddow      LBD   1082      
Little Leighs      LLH   1081      
Little Waltham     LWL   1081      
Mashbury           MSB   1081      
Pleshey            PLS   1081      
Roxwell            RXW   1080      
Sandon             SND   1082      
Springfield        SPF   1082        
Writtle            WRT   1080
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: julied on Friday 04 June 04 14:56 BST (UK)
Thanks again Jaq, much appreciated,
Julie  :)
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: jaq on Wednesday 09 June 04 19:15 BST (UK)
The 1881 census shows Elizabeth Turner b 1820 Lt Dunmow, Essex.  Julie


this is a good match for her from 1861 dunmow index:

TURNER   ELIZA               age 28        1119   83   BRX   ESS   b.GREAT EASTON
TURNER   ELIZABETH   age 35      1119   83   BRX   ESS   b.BROXTED
TURNER   ELIZABETH   age 7      1119   83   BRX   ESS   b.BROXTED
TURNER   GEORGE       age 28      1119   83   BRX   ESS   BROXTED
TURNER   JIM                age 2        1119   83   BRX   ESS   b.BROXTED
TURNER   JOHN               age 33        1119   83   BRX   ESS   b.BROXTED
TURNER   MARY ANN           age 4      1119   83   BRX   ESS   b.GREAT EASTON
TURNER   WILIIAM      age 32      1119   83   BRX   ESS   BROXTED

Broxted is near Takely / Canfield just outside Dunmow
RG9/1117   Dunmow    Barnston; Great Dunmow; Little Dunmow;
                     Little Easton; Great Canfield;
                     Little Canfield; Takeley




Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: julied on Thursday 10 June 04 11:29 BST (UK)
Hi jaq, many thanx for this info, could very well be her.  The 1881 census shows Elizabeth Fewell b 1820 Lt Dunmow, age 61, Laundress, Widowed, 6 Gravel Pitt, Chignall St James.  
Julie  :)
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: jaq on Thursday 10 June 04 12:18 BST (UK)
i couldnt find a Maria Perrin age 1 year or so,in chelmsford 1861.
These are from 1861 Dunmow PERRIN.there are a few close matches to the PERRIN surname, ie PERRY,PERRING etc, so is always worth checking those too.

PERRIN   ALFRED   19   1117/11   GDN   ESS   GREAT DUNMOW
PERRIN   SARAH   33   1117/11   GDN   ESS   GREAT DUNMOW
PERRIN   THOMAS   46   1117/11   GDN   ESS   GREAT DUNMOW
PERRING   ELIZABETH J   13 1118/61   HES   ESS   HATFIELD BROAD OAK
PERRING   HOCKLEY   34   1118/61   HES   ESS   LITTLE CANFIELD
PERRIN   ANN   23   1117/96   LDN   ESS   GREAT DUNMOW
PERRIN   JESSIE   11   m1117/96   LDN   ESS   LITTLE DUNMOW
PERRIN   MARY   60   1117/96   LDN   ESS   LITTLE DUNMOW
PERRIN   SAMUEL   20   1117/96   LDN   ESS   LITTLE DUNMOW
PERRIN   HANNAH   55   1117/98   LDN   ESS   FELSTED   
PERRIN   HANNAH   14   1117/98   LDN   ESS   LITTLE DUNMOW
PERRIN   JONAS   56   1117/98   LDN   ESS   LITTLE DUNMOW
PERRIN   MARY   24   1117/98   LDN   ESS   WEST HANNINGFIELD
PERRIN   SAMUEL   20   1117/98   LDN   ESS   LITTLE DUNMOW
PERRIN   WILLIE   18   1117/98   LDN   ESS   LITTLE DUNMOW
PERRIN   CHARLOTTE   20/1117   120   LCF   ESS   TAKELEY   
PERRIN   ELIZABETH   80/1117   120   LCF   ESS   GOOD EASTER
PERRIN   GEORGE   43   1117/120   LCF   ESS   LITTLE CANFIELD
PERRIN   GEORGE   10   1117/120   LCF   ESS   LITTLE EASTON
PERRIN   JOHN   50   1117/120   LCF   ESS   LITTLE CANFIELD
PERRIN   MARY   55   1117/121   LCF   ESS   GREAT DUNMOW
PERRIN   WILLIAM   58   1117/121   LCF   ESS   LITTLE CANFIELD

jaq
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: julied on Thursday 10 June 04 12:39 BST (UK)
Thanx heaps jaq, could I trouble you pls to see if you can find an Anne Perrin for me [don't know whether they are from the same family yet or not].  The only info I have on her is she married James Fewell in Moreton, Essex 20.04.1804 [he was chr 26.10.1783 Gt Waltham, son of William Fewell and Margaret Twinn].  
Cheers, Julie
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: jaq on Thursday 10 June 04 13:13 BST (UK)
thats a bit early for my resourses,she would have been Ann fewell in 1804 onwards and possibly not about on the 1851/61 census.[assuming she was 18-20 years old when she married]
i do have the PIGOTS 1839 TRADE DIRECTORY SE & EAST ANGLIA
if James had a trade, we might get lucky :)


jaq
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: findem on Friday 11 June 04 03:26 BST (UK)
Hi Julie,
We share another name, Turner, I have only one generation at the moment, they were in Pattiswick 1799 to at least 1812.  The five children were baptised 1800 to 1812 but no Elizabeth, since the parent's names were William & Elizabeth there has to be an Elizabeth somewhere.  It may not help but when or if I find an Elizabeth I'll let you know.  I have a very strong lead for my William Turner at Lindsell which is two or three miles north of Gt Dunmow, when I check it out I'll look out for an Elizabeth.

Not sure if this will be any help but I have a research note that there appeared to be a lot of Turner activity around the time you are interested in at Elsenham, which is four or five miles northeast of Gt Dunmow.
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: julied on Friday 11 June 04 12:29 BST (UK)
Hi Jaq and Findem, re the census records you sent Jaq.  You've got James age 38 and Elizabeth age 40 in the Writtle census.  This very well could be them as the ages fit the dates we have.  Are they at the same address and does it list their occupation in this census like the 1881 one does?  There is no Frederick [first child b 1861] listed but this could be because he was born after the census was done.  The Elizabeth listed in the Chelmsford census could be another possible at age 41 although you would think there would be a James listed as well.  This Elizabeth Turner is a bit of a puzzle as the only info I have on her came from the 1881 census.  Oh the joys of doing this!!!!
bye for now,  Julie :)
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: jaq on Friday 11 June 04 12:42 BST (UK)
Julied, do you mean this lot?:
if so, i'll look on the actual census for further details and get back to you shortly.When the pc & folio are same,ie 1080/100, you can assume they were in same household or at least on the same sheet,therefore living close by.
FEWELL   CHARLOTTE   8   1080\100   CHJ  [Chignal St James ]
FEWELL   ELIZABETH   66   1080\100   CHJ
FEWELL   ELIZABETH   40   1080\100   CHJ
FEWELL   GEORGE   13                 1080\100   CHJ
FEWELL   HENRY   11      1080\100   CHJ
FEWELL   JAMES   38      1080\100   CHJ
FEWELL   JAMES   1       1080\100   CHJ
FEWELL   LUCY   5       1080\100   CHJ
FEWELL   MARY   3       1080\100   CHJ
FEWELL   SAMUEL   72                   1080\100   CHJ
FEWELL   WILLIAM   18                            1080\100   CHJ
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: jaq on Friday 11 June 04 14:20 BST (UK)
no surprises:
RG9/1080/100
same household **
james fewell head age 38 agr lab
elizabeth wife age 40
william son agr lab
george son age 13
henry son age 11
charlotte dau age 8
lucy dau age 5
mary dau age 3
james     son age 1
---
**apologies, i couldnt find the exact adress- is between OAK HALL/CHIGNALL Hall, enumerator [william barker]only gives names of public houses, halls & other larger buildings.but is in line with several buildings named Brick so it could be Brick road?

An earlier find,Thomas Fewell age 51 incidently,was a shoemaker RG9/1080/99 and his son Thomas G.Fewell was agr lab

hope this helps
jaq
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: julied on Friday 11 June 04 16:36 BST (UK)
Hi Jaq, looking thru what details I have the dates match up for Elizabeth age 40, George age 13, James age 38 and Samuel age 72 who is the right age to be James' father.  Maybe it's just a coincidence.
Sorry Jaq, just saw your second message after I'd written the above.  Even tho some of the dates fit I don't think it is the right family as I only have James & Elizabeth with 3 children [so far] - Frederick b 1861, Agnes b 1867 & George b 1848 all Chignall St James.  The 13 year age gap between the first 2 children does seem rather odd for those times though so perhaps they all do belong.  Oh this is all so frustrating!!
Many thanks for all your help though, I really do appreciate it.
Cheers,
Julie
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: jaq on Friday 11 June 04 16:51 BST (UK)
Frederick may have been born  just after the census [1861) and agnes wont show as she was b.1867!

george is about right age as are his parents
only a birth cert will confirm
as will a 1871 look-up will confirm [which i dont have...yet]

jaq
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: Susie1 on Saturday 12 June 04 11:53 BST (UK)
Hi Jaq
I think I have got a bit confused over these Samuel's. Could you pleas tell me on the RG9/1080/100 What does it say the relationship is for Samuel Fewell aged 72 & Elizabeth aged 66 to each other and to James Fewell?
Sue
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: jaq on Saturday 12 June 04 12:23 BST (UK)
Hi Sue,
they live at a different address just along the same road as the other Fewell families.
therefore doesnt state relationship to the previous family.
rg9 /1080/100a
samuel FEWELL age 72 is head of household married [i cant make out his occupation looks like HIG LAR  ???
elizabeth FEWELL age 66 is his wife
and theres a lodger DAVID BAYLEY age 23 b.chignall
David Bayley is agr lab

they maybe parents as you say, but only a birth cert would confirm.
jaq
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: Susie1 on Saturday 12 June 04 14:51 BST (UK)
Hi Jaq
Thanks for that info.  But I am now very confused.  This age of 72 puts him being born 1789, and the son of William & Margaret Twinn was born 1789.  I thought he married Sophia Childs.
Sue
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: jaq on Saturday 12 June 04 16:12 BST (UK)
hi suzie,
have you considered he may have married twice?
what actual certificates do you have?
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: Susie1 on Saturday 12 June 04 16:23 BST (UK)
Hi Jaq
I havn't got any certificates.  The Samuel I am interested in was son of John & Elizabeth.  I have been trying to eliminate all the others, to establish if I have the right one.  My Samuel I think was married to Anne Strutt.
Sue
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: jaq on Saturday 12 June 04 16:43 BST (UK)
not wishing to add to the confusion, but you may be interested in the entries from BVI [british vital records] for future reference

FEWEL, Thoma         Marriage
   Wife:   Sarah CHEEKE      
   Marriage Date:   21 Oct 1813   Recorded in:   Black Notley, Essex, England
         Collection:   Marriage Transcripts
Source:   FHL Film 990406   Dates:   1813 - 1850
FUEL, James         Marriage
   Wife:   Mary AKERMAN      
   Marriage Date:   21 Oct 1820   Recorded in:   Chingford, Essex, England
Source:   FHL Film 1564254   Dates:   1813 - 1865
MASON, John         Marriage
   Wife:   Catharine FEWEL      
   Marriage Date:   24 Dec 1821   Recorded in:   Great Canfield, Essex, England
         Collection:   Marriage Transcripts
Source:   FHL Film 990406   Dates:   1817 - 1835
NIGHTINGALE, William         Marriage
   Wife:   Elizabeth FEWEL      
   Marriage Date:   17 Nov 1821   Recorded in:   Great Canfield, Essex, England
         Collection:   Marriage Transcripts
Source:   FHL Film 990406   Dates:   1817 - 1835
FEWELL, James         Marriage
   Wife:   Elizabeth DOE      
   Marriage Date:   15 Oct 1825   Recorded in:   Great Canfield, Essex, England
         Collection:   Marriage Transcripts
Source:   FHL Film 990406   Dates:   1817 - 1835
CLARK, Thomas         Marriage
   Wife:   Elizabeth FEWELL      
   Marriage Date:   24 Feb 1826   Recorded in:   Great Canfield, Essex, England
         Collection:   Marriage Transcripts
Source:   FHL Film 990406   Dates:   1817 - 1835
DAWSON, Thomas         Marriage
   Wife:   Susan FEWELL      
   Marriage Date:   28 Oct 1826   Recorded in:   Great Bardfield, Essex, England
         Collection:   Marriage Transcripts
Source:   FHL Film 990406   Dates:   1754 - 1837
FEWEL, William         Marriage
   Wife:   Sarah BURGES      
   Marriage Date:   2 Feb 1827   Recorded in:   Great Bardfield, Essex, England
         Collection:   Marriage Transcripts
Source:   FHL Film 990406   Dates:   1754 - 1837
FEWELL, John         Marriage
   Wife:   Maria CLARK      
   Marriage Date:   11 Jul 1827   Recorded in:   Great Canfield, Essex, England
         Collection:   Marriage Transcripts
Source:   FHL Film 990406   Dates:   1817 - 1835
PHILPOT, Charles         Marriage
   Wife:   Ellen FEWELL      
   Marriage Date:   13 Aug 1829   Recorded in:   Great Canfield, Essex, England
         Collection:   Marriage Transcripts
Source:   FHL Film 990406   Dates:   1817 - 1835
RILEY, John         Marriage
   Wife:   Sarah FEWEL      
   Marriage Date:   18 Dec 1830   Recorded in:   Chignall, Essex, England
         Collection:   St James; Marriage Transcripts
Source:   FHL Film 990406   Dates:   1829 - 1836
FEWEL, Thomas         Marriage
   Wife:   Mary BREWER      
   Marriage Date:   24 Dec 1831   Recorded in:   Chignall, Essex, England
         Collection:   St James; Marriage Transcripts
Source:   FHL Film 990406   Dates:   1829 - 1836
FEWEL, William         Marriage
   Wife:   Ann BOWTLE      
   Marriage Date:   7 May 1833   Recorded in:   Great Bardfield, Essex, England
         Collection:   Marriage Transcripts
Source:   FHL Film 990406   Dates:   1754 - 1837
FEWEL, Samuel         Marriage
   Wife:   Eliza JOHNSON      
   Marriage Date:   31 Oct 1835   Recorded in:   Chignall, Essex, England
         Collection:   St James; Marriage Transcripts
Source:   FHL Film 990406   Dates:   1829 - 1836
FEWELL, William         Marriage
   Wife:   Ann SALTWELL      
   Marriage Date:   27 Mar 1835   Recorded in:   Chignall, Essex, England
         Collection:   St James; Marriage Transcripts
Source:   FHL Film 990406   Dates:   1829 - 1836
TURNER, Thomas         Marriage
   Wife:   Mary FEWEL      
   Marriage Date:   12 Mar 1836   Recorded in:   Chignall, Essex, England
         Collection:   St James; Marriage Transcripts
Source:   FHL Film 990406   Dates:   1829 - 1836
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: Susie1 on Saturday 12 June 04 21:06 BST (UK)
Thanks for info Jaq.
Sue
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: julied on Tuesday 15 June 04 05:49 BST (UK)
Hi Sue [and others tearing their hair out with regard to these Fewell's],  I have Samuel Fewell  [the one b 1789  to William and Margaret Twinn] dying in 1865.  Like Jaq suggested I think we need to find someone with the 1871 census to see who is listed on it and where.  
Thanx for the british vital records Jac, interesting, unfortunately none of the names tie in at this stage but who knows.
I await the next installment...
cheers,
Julie
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: jaq on Tuesday 15 June 04 11:10 BST (UK)
the next installment and guess what...none listed for Essex!!

attach FEWELL births from BVI

jaq

Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: findem on Tuesday 15 June 04 11:20 BST (UK)
Hi Julied, Here is some "totally useless info", there was a Fewell at Rainsford School Chelmsford, the same time as myself.  Also like myself he lived in the north part of Chelmsford.  Considering  how close Chignall St James is to that part of Chelmsford, I wonder if he was descended from the Chignal Fewells.  Now it's really bugging me that I can't recall his first name, I'll just have to hope for a flash of inspiration.  
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: Susie1 on Tuesday 15 June 04 14:09 BST (UK)
Hi All
I have a list of Takeley marriages.  I was once told that the Fewell's originated from Takeley, but when I got the list off the net there was only a couple of Fuell's and several Jewels/Juels.  I wondered at the time if these had been mis read.   Now looking back over the list, I think some of the first names are names that have poped up before and I think there is a good chance that who ever translated this list had thought that the F was a J.
This is how I first started on the Fewell trail, the Arthur Fewell that I first looked for was written as Arthur Jewell in the RMA Chelsea.
If any one hasn't already found this list from Takeley, I can send it.
Sue
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: jaq on Tuesday 15 June 04 15:25 BST (UK)
i wont bother posting them as not relevent to your area /names , but there were 22 JEWELL's  [Essex]
on the BVI birth
and all recorded in    Walthamstow, Essex, England   ::)  hmmmm

jaq
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: julied on Tuesday 22 June 04 05:44 BST (UK)
Hi Findem, how interesting about the 'school friend.'  Don't you just hate it when you can't think of a name like that, I know it bugs the hell out of me till I can come up with the answer.  I know there's a web site here is Aus for finding lost school friends [www.schoolfriends.com.au], I wonder if there's a similar one in the UK.
Julie
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: Susie1 on Tuesday 22 June 04 05:55 BST (UK)
Hi Julie
Yes there is a site for finding old friends here, it's http://www.friendsreunited.co.uk/.
I found one I hadn't seen for 30 years on there. Or should I say he found me!!!
Sue
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: julied on Tuesday 22 June 04 06:09 BST (UK)
Hi Sue, hope Findem reads this and can hopefully track down his long lost school friend.  Like you I also tracked someone down here who I'd gone to boarding school with many moons ago!
Julie
[wish all these Fewells were as easy to track down]!!
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: findem on Tuesday 22 June 04 11:18 BST (UK)
Hi Julie and Susie, I am aware of FriendsReunited and was a paid up member for a year but hadn't tried to contact (was it Peter) Fewell because I only recalled him recently whilst thinking of the Fewell and Chignal St James connection.  I have now let my membership lapse mainly on principal, I object to paying a fee to a site which deposits Tracking Cookies on your PC.  They have another site called GenesReunited (used to be called GenesConnected), where you can put your family tree, I have put a very brief tree on it, that site also deposits Tracking Cookies on your system.  I have a free program, Spybot which detects them and removes them, so I have quite a list of sites which deposit Tracking Cookies.  Thanks for mentioning it though, I may at some time go back in when I have a few more names to look for, I have already made contact with several childhood and school friends, comforting to know there are so many still alive  ;D
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: jaq on Tuesday 22 June 04 15:21 BST (UK)
i'm with gennesconnected, no problems.i use adaware which gets rid of the spyware and adsubtract which disposes of cookies and temp internet files.
have met lots of new cousins on it.

by the way, just did a quick scan, theres 176 FEWELL names on there  ;)
1316 JEWELL
do you want me to check any more of your surnames?

jaq
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: GRACELAND on Tuesday 22 June 04 15:36 BST (UK)
 :)HI JAQ,
             you didnt come across any SALMONS High beach Essex on your travels did you ?
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: jaq on Tuesday 22 June 04 16:04 BST (UK)
168 SALMONS in total, 36 in essex,

jaq

shall we enquire? ;)  see IM or PM whatever [private message]
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: GRACELAND on Tuesday 22 June 04 16:20 BST (UK)
 :D
                    THANKS
                             JAQ... :D
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: findem on Wednesday 23 June 04 01:13 BST (UK)
Hi Jaq, I would be interested in any Fewell/Fuel sightings pre 1744, especially a marriage of a William Fewell & Hannah circa 1720.  Also of special interest would be births and baptisms between 1770 & 1776 of a William & Margaret, to fill in a gap.  I believe I am still within (just) my paid subsciption period with GenesReunited so I'll check it out.  I can still use the sites as you know, the only thing not being paid up affects is the ability to contact people.
Regarding Tracking Cookie removal, a magazine recommended using a couple of programs such as Spybot & Adaware, the author thinks one will complement the other.  I will be installing Adaware and testing the idea myself, out of interest, Adaware program is on a disk that comes with the magazine.  I am not worried by the cookies but it does annoy me that someone I pay a fee to is allowing my privacy to be invaded.  
Title: Re:More Essex surnames [ad-aware link]
Post by: jaq on Wednesday 23 June 04 01:52 BST (UK)
for those who want more information on ad-aware and the FREE download visit:

http://www.computeractive.co.uk/Download/1136025

findem, are you saying you want me to see what FEWELL contacts are on gennesconnected, or is your subscription still up-to-date.
obviously i dont mind having a look..
 ;)
i notice quite a few at Chignall St james and yes there are a few in the 1700's listed [essex/great waltham,cranfield etc]
these Williams:
William Born 1725 in Essex Fewell,
William Fewell, Born c1745 in Essex
William Fewell, Born c1779 in Gt waltham,essex
William Fewell, Born 1807 in Moreton,essex
William Fewell, Born 1811 in Chignall St. James,essex

looks like you might gain if you spend the £7.50 to re-list ;)

jaq



Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: Susie1 on Wednesday 23 June 04 05:56 BST (UK)
Hi Findem
There is a marriage of William Fuell to Hannah Vale but its 25 Dec 1783 in Takeley.
It is down as Fuell on IGI, but Juell on my Takeley list.
Sue
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: Susie1 on Wednesday 23 June 04 06:03 BST (UK)
These are the pre 1744 marriages I have picked up along the way.

1646   FEWELL   GRACE   30 MAR 1646   WESTIE   PHILIP   THAXTED      IGI
1669   FEWEL   DANIEL   11 DEC 1669   CRABB   ELIZ   BROCKING ST MARY      IGI
1669   FEWELL   DANNIEL   16 JAN 1669   WOOD   SARAH   THAXTED      IGI
1700   FEWELL   JOAN   1700   BRIGHT   FRAN   TAKELEY      Essex marriages online
1704   FEWELL   THOMAS   9 MAY 1704   COLE   MARGARET   WIDFORD      IGI
1712   FUELS   THOMAS   28 APR 1712   GUY   MARTHA   GT CANFIELD      IGI
1723   Jewel   Mary   3rd Nov 1723   Barker   Samuel   Takeley      
1734   FUELL   THOMAS   20 JUL 1734   JUDD   ELIZABETH   TAKELEY      IGI
1735   FEWEL   DANIEL   11 DEC 1735   CRABB   ELIZ   BROCKING, ST MARY      
1735   Fuell   Thomas   20th July 1735   Judd   Elisabeth   Takeley      
1736   FUELL   JOHN   4 or 7 JUL 1736   COE   MARY   TAKELEY      IGI/Takeley marriages
1736   FUELL    PHILIP   26 DEC 1736   JUDD   ANNE   TAKELEY      IGI
1739   FEWELL   ANN   6 NOV 1739   SMITH   JOHN   GT HALLINGBURY   

Sue   
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: findem on Wednesday 23 June 04 12:24 BST (UK)
Hi Jaq and Sue,
Sue, thanks for the Fewells, by the way there is another name to watch out for in and around Gt Waltham, Sewell !! Sorry if that has added to any possible confusion (what a liar I am)  ;D.
Jaq, Thanks for the Fewell info I've sent a PM, I have been in GenesReunited so no thanks to your offer of help at this stage.  Whilst in there I made contact with two people who appear to be on the same Fewell line.  Is it really 7.50 pounds to register fully, that's some price hike when I registered less than a year ago I'm sure I oonly paid 5.0 pounds.  
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: jaq on Wednesday 23 June 04 13:17 BST (UK)
yes i think i only paid about £5 too not sure if it was last year.

this Fewell family is getting quite some coverage, i'm beginning to get to know them like they was my own family   ;D ;D ;D

jaq
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: findem on Thursday 24 June 04 03:50 BST (UK)
Hi Jaq,
It certainly has got some coverage, it's about to get some more  ;D
I gave GenesReunited a pasting today, you know, "make hay while the sun shines", not sure when my full rego runs out so I thought I would make the most of it.
I've found someone else interested in the same Fewells plus Perrins, Chignal St James etc etc etc. her name is Kath, she also has a web site on Tribal Pages.  I'm about to send her an email and among other things suggest she has a look at Rootschat asap.
Also found a few contacts who may be researching some of the same names as myself.
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: essexbird2004 on Friday 25 June 04 00:22 BST (UK)
no surprises:
RG9/1080/100
same household **
james fewell head age 38 agr lab
elizabeth wife age 40
william son agr lab
george son age 13
henry son age 11
charlotte dau age 8
lucy dau age 5
mary dau age 3
james     son age 1
---
**apologies, i couldnt find the exact adress- is between OAK HALL/CHIGNALL Hall, enumerator [william barker]only gives names of public houses, halls & other larger buildings.but is in line with several buildings named Brick so it could be Brick road?

An earlier find,Thomas Fewell age 51 incidently,was a shoemaker RG9/1080/99 and his son Thomas G.Fewell was agr lab

hope this helps
jaq
This is my family!! George aged 13 is my ggrandfather.
My name is kath and i was born fewell. Findem told me about this site and i am in touch with Julied to ( Julie sent the certificates to you today). Julie in a previous post you said that you were not sure if this is the correct family, i am 99.9% sure it is as there was only one other George born in 1848 and that was to William Fewell and Anne Stanley at White Roothing.
Just to let you know i live 30 minsutes from Chignall st james and chelmsford and i have been to the church at felsted, unfortunately the doors on the church are locked unless you go on a Sunday to listen to the vicar preach etc. I have emailed the vicar asking for a meeting so i can view the PR's, but had no reply as yet. Have also asked Essex County council how much it will cost to have the marriages from the period of 1768 on fiche that was a week ago and still no reply GRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!.
Millic Fewell is Millicent Fewell she married William Eve in 1804. I am also inclined to beleive Millicent is also one in the same as Melly too, but need obviously to prove this somehow.

Jaq on the records you have for William Fewell and Margaret Twin(n)'s Marriage does it have their ages? please.

I now have a website with my line of Fewell's (and Julie's) the address is
http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/kathdownes

please do let me know if there is any info that needs adding or you feel is incorrect.

Kath in Sad Essex ( as England have just lost to Portugal in the European Cup)
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: jaq on Friday 25 June 04 00:39 BST (UK)
hi Kath and welcome ;)

you ask  "Jaq on the records you have for William Fewell and Margaret Twin(n)'s Marriage does it have their ages? please"

please remind me where i wrote that ???  was it from census readout?
if it was a parish record, it wasnt from my records[was prob from
Sue or Julie or Findem...

jaq

ps.cheesed off too that England are out of it and having to watch the game again on BBC as a sad repeat.. :'(
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: essexbird2004 on Friday 25 June 04 00:53 BST (UK)
HI jaq

Sorry my mistake it was Findem that mentioned the marriage. :-[

Kath x
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: essexbird2004 on Friday 25 June 04 00:59 BST (UK)
Sorry for my rudeness LOL Thanx for the welcome  ;D

I could just about watch it live let alone a repeat aswell, think i would slit my wrists ( or buy a ticket to Portugal to KILLLLLLLLLLLLL that Ref >:()

I can't beleive how much more info i have got from this site in 5 minutes than i have in 2 months of researching LOL.

I have a list of births for chelmsford for the 1840-50's and i have been applying for them at random when i could afford them but with that info from the 1861 census that narrows down the names so i will look for those and apply for them to see if they are children of james fewell and elizabeth turner.

Oooooooo by the way to all FEWELL researchers, i have come across the name being transcribed as TEWELL and TUELL as well as Jewell

thought i'd add even more confusion to the plot  :P
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: jaq on Friday 25 June 04 01:14 BST (UK)
hi Kath,
didnt think you were rude at all...so no worries.
Blimey not more variations of the name  :o
as i mentioned somewhere before, i'm getting quite attached to this FEWELL family and they not even mine!
glad to hear you are making progress, this is a very friendly useful site.
How long have you been researching your tree?
I didnt even know where Chignall st James was until i met a GER [Great Eastern Railway] researcher who lives there  ;)

jaq
[also in Essex]
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: essexbird2004 on Friday 25 June 04 01:26 BST (UK)
Jaq

I have been doing the tree for about 18 months on and off, more off than on ( apart from the last 5 months)
I normally like you try and help others (on genesconnected)
I am so glad Findem told me about this site.

It was very difficult in the beggining to do my tree as my Grandad was born in 1887 and had my Dad in 1950 and i was born in 74 so a biGGGGGGGGGG gap especially seeing as Grandad died in 75' so couldnt really ask him.
At first i thought my Fewell line 'came' from Somerset as that was where my grandad was born, i had no idea that his father was born in Essex.

it has been difficult as in 1881 the name was transcribed as FUEL in 1891 it's FERRELL ( transcriber thought the 'W' was 2 'R's LOL) and 1901 it's FEWELL so had a lot of hunting to do but finally found them. trouble was that i couldn't tie in my GG grandad to the essex fewells until about 4 weeks ago when i got his birth certificate so it's been very frustrating to say the least.

I am still having 1 problem though and that's my grandad born in 1887 is on the 1891 census but not on the 1901 census.

Henry Ernest Fewell (Fuell/Fuel etc etc) AKA Harry aged 14ish. born. hedging, north petherton,somerset
i have tried everything possible to find him on the census but still no joy. I do know he married in Wales in 1912 to his first wife so will expect him on the cenus for wales in 1911 ( when it becomes available) but oh where did he go. LOL

I suppose that will be another mystery unsolved for me LOL but at least i know about the rest of the family.

Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: essexbird2004 on Friday 25 June 04 02:20 BST (UK)
HI jaq

Sorry to trouble you again, but do you have an age for william fewell in the 1861 census


RG9/1080/100
same household **
james fewell head age 38 agr lab
elizabeth wife age 40
william son agr lab??????????????????????
george son age 13
henry son age 11
charlotte dau age 8
lucy dau age 5
mary dau age 3
james    son age 1

Thanx in advance
Kath xx ;D
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: jaq on Friday 25 June 04 02:25 BST (UK)
Hi again Kath,
re RG9/1080/100

you just caught me before i go [just posted reply to your Downes family]
will get back to you tomorrow.

all the best
jaq
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: essexbird2004 on Friday 25 June 04 02:26 BST (UK)
Hi Jaq

Ok mate Thanx
Good night xx
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: Susie1 on Friday 25 June 04 06:25 BST (UK)
Hi Kath
Trevor said you went to Felsted on Monday.  I wondered if you found out who William's parents were, and if William had any brothers, while you were there.  I am hoping to eventually tie my John in with your William.  I think that they all have to be connected somehow.

John m 1768 Elizabeth Lanham.  I think maybe John married Mary first had a child, and then I think she died and he then married Elizabeth.  Also there is a Thomas that married Sarah Bacon, he seems to be a loose end as well.
Sue
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: essexbird2004 on Friday 25 June 04 09:50 BST (UK)
Hi Sue  ;D

I did go to Felsted, but unfortunately the church is only open Sundays at all other time it is locked, i suppose due to vandals and theifs and also i beleive the vicar is in charge of another church.
I did email him asking if it was possible to view the parish registers but have had no reply , so i am going to phone him.
I also asked the County council last friday (by email) how much it would cost for marriages from 1756-1780 in Felsted on fiche, and yet again no reply!!! so think i will be phoning them to.
Isn't it annoying when no-one gets back to you  >:(

I did,nt have your email address or Glynn's so was only able to email Trevor sorry and i think he has had a few problems with his PC.
You can always email me direct, so when i do eventually get to see the darn Parish registers i can look for your John fewell to, but will need all the info you have on him.

Kath xx
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: findem on Friday 25 June 04 10:34 BST (UK)
Hi all,
The marriage entry for William Fewell & Margaret Twin did not contain any ages.   However a friend confirmed for me the baptism of a William Fewell 4  Feb 1744 at Felsted, son of William & Hannah Fewell, I suspect the 1744 William is the William Fewell husband of Margaret Twin.   The marriage of William & Hannah was not found at Felsted.   I'm wondering if the marriage is in the Gt Waltham PR's.
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: essexbird2004 on Friday 25 June 04 10:40 BST (UK)
HI

I will be hopefully going to the ERO in the 1st week of July.
Please let me know what you want looked up for fewell, and i will do my best
but please remember it will be my first time there.
I will be trying to look at Gt Waltham,  The Chignall's , Felsted and Thaxted ( if i have time LOL) but for the name fewell only. If i do have time i will look for the other names ie: Turner, Childs, Perrin etc so do let me know who u r interested in apart from William fewell and margaret Twin so i can write it all down to take with me.

Kath xx

Findem , i would say that is our William Fewell to just hope in some way we can confirm it LOL
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: jaq on Friday 25 June 04 16:20 BST (UK)
HI jaq

Sorry to trouble you again, but do you have an age for william fewell in the 1861 census


RG9/1080/100
same household **
james fewell head age 38 agr lab
elizabeth wife age 40
william son agr lab??????????????????????
george son age 13
henry son age 11
charlotte dau age 8
lucy dau age 5
mary dau age 3
james    son age 1

Thanx in advance
Kath xx ;D






hi kath,
RG9/1080/100
william is 18 years old agr lab

jaq
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: essexbird2004 on Friday 25 June 04 16:25 BST (UK)
Jaq

Thanx mate  ;) ;D

Kath x
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: essexbird2004 on Monday 28 June 04 22:46 BST (UK)
HI all

Jaq would it be possible for you to check the 1861 census for me again please for
james fewell bc1843 chignal st james

have no idea who his parents are.
thanx in advance

Kath xx
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: jaq on Tuesday 29 June 04 01:26 BST (UK)
Hi again Kath
just these two in same household [just up from chignal hall]
samuel fewell head age 47 married agr lab b.chignall st james
james son age 18 unmarried agr lab   b.csj


jaq



 
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: essexbird2004 on Tuesday 29 June 04 01:28 BST (UK)
Thanx Jaq  :-*

Kath x
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: MiddleEnglander on Tuesday 06 July 04 21:45 BST (UK)
Jaq ...

I wasn't sure how to contact you so I've piggybacked on a message from essexbird (I know she won't mind).

I've seen that you are the fount of much wisdom concerning Essex Surnames and Census Information, so .... I wondered if you had access to the 1861 census for Writtle please ??  I'm after members of the Crush family.

Can you help me please ??

Aye


T

Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: jaq on Tuesday 06 July 04 22:47 BST (UK)
 ;D not that wise, but thanks for the compliment :-[

1861 writtle index lists these CRUSH families:

CRUSH   ANN   age 43      1080   /27   WRT
CRUSH   ELIZABETH age 73                   1080   /27   WRT
CRUSH   MARIA   37      1080   /27   WRT
CRUSH   ROBERT   40      1080   /27   WRT
---

CRUSH   JAMES   16      1080   47   WRT
CRUSH   CHARLES   age 8      1080   47   WRT
CRUSH   JOHN   50      1080   47   WRT
CRUSH   JOHN   16      1080   47   WRT
CRUSH   JOSEPH   20      1080   47   WRT
CRUSH   WILLIAM   24      1080   47   WRT
CRUSH   MARY   41      1080   47   WRT
CRUSH   ROBERT   2      1080   48   WRT
CRUSH   SAMUEL   5      1080   48   WRT
--
CRUSH   ANN   age 18      1080   55   WRT
--
CRUSH   ELIZABETH age 73                    1081   87   LWL
--
CRUSH   JAMES   26      1080   81   RXW
CRUSH   JOHN   67      1080   81   RXW
CRUSH   JOHN   28      1080   81   RXW
CRUSH   RHODA   59      1080   81   RXW
--

CRUSH   THOMAS   22      1082   92   GBD
CRUSH   REBECCA   24      1082   92   GBD
CRUSH   ISABELLA age 63                   1082   92   GBD
CRUSH   CHARLES   age 64      1082   92   GBD

let me know if you want more info from the actual census quoting the folio /piece numbers as shown here

jaq
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: jaq on Tuesday 06 July 04 22:56 BST (UK)
Hi again, i should have added

WRT = WRITTLE
RXW = ROXWELL
LWL = Little Waltham
GBD = GT BADDOW


jaq
Title: Re:More Essex surnames
Post by: MiddleEnglander on Tuesday 06 July 04 23:49 BST (UK)
Hi jaq ....

That's fantastic !  -    I mean it, you really are a fount of knowledge.  Many thanks indeed.

Aye


T
Title: Re: More Essex surnames
Post by: rah on Friday 20 August 04 17:15 BST (UK)
Just popped in to take a look at the conversation and find a request for something I can contribute to!

Here is one Crush family from the 1861 census of Writtle.  I am looking for the birth date and parentage of John, the deaf and dumb shoemaker.  Any anecdotal information about him would be fantatsic too.

1861 Bridge St
John 50 master shoemaker bn Roxwell deaf and dumb from birth
Mary 42 bn High Easter
William 23 Labourer bn Writtle
Joseph 20Labourer bn Writtle
John 16 Labourer bn Writtle
James 16 Labourer bn Writtle
Charles 8 Scholar bn Writtle
Samuel 5   bn Writtle
Robert 2 bn Writtle

AH