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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Sussex => England => Sussex Lookup Requests => Topic started by: aug on Monday 08 November 10 12:35 GMT (UK)
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Hi
can someone help me with some info About the potter family.
My g-grandad is Alfred john potter b 1892? Died 15th nov 1960 married a susan ann kezia curd b 1887? Died 1971 Both buried Queens rd croydon. He was born in brighton.. How would i find out info of hes family from this area. Hes son is George fredrick potter b 1916 in croydon. So lots of potters in croydon.. Want to know who hes siblings are? And any other family of hes from Brighton sussex..
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Hi
Alfred and Susan married in 1901 so Alfred can't have been born in 1892 as you said. I looked for him in the 1901 census and found this family for you
19 adelaide street croydon surrey
George Potter head m 50 flower ? Brighton Sussex
Rosetta wife m 47 do Whitey? surrey
Alfred son s 21 do Brighton sussex
Rose dau s 18 laundress mayfield sussex
Rosina g.dau 7m croydon surrey
david carter boarder 18 call boy music halls croydon surrey
hope this helps
Regards
Barbarai
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Hi
Thanks thats right they did move to croydon, When i looked at someones tree they think a john potter and susan tullet was Alfreds parents... I see they are not... Thankyou for info.
jew
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Hi barbarai
About Alfred potter who's parents are George potter and Rosetta would you be-able to find Alfreds mother surname? Plus Rosina g-dau living in household was her surname norman? And who are her parents? And i can't make out why she living with grandparents and not her own parents.
jew
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Here they are in Portsmouth in 1881
George POTTER Male 25 Brighton, General Labourer
Rose POTTER Wife 23 Brighton,
Alfred POTTER Son 1 Brighton,
Living 9 Tower St Portsmouth, Hampshire.
PRO Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 1150 / 12 Page 20
A quick search of a basic census index SUGGESTS George was in Hove in 1861, Kemp Town, Brighton in 1871, and Hammersmith, west London in 1891. I do not have access to those censuses myself.
Furthermore, George married Rose Underwood in Brighton during the September quarter of 1879.
GRO ref Marriages Brighton, Sept quarter 1879, 2b 366
The IGI states ROSE UNDERWOOD married George Potter on 25 AUG 1879 at the church of Saint Peter, Brighton, Sussex.
Rosina (born Croydon in the Sept quarter of 1900) was probably the daughter of unmarried Alfred or his unmarried 18 year old sister Rose. If that was the case, the grand daughter Rosina was with at least one of her parents.
Apply for a copy of her birth cert to find out whose daughter she was.
GRO ref Croydon Births, Sept quarter 1900, 2a 305
Roy G
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Hi roy
Thankyou for message I heard Alfred had a daughter rose than i was told she was a niece? And i know Alfred had 3 boys one was my grandad... The thing is i don't have much info where all the potters are in Alfreds family like hes siblings etc. Only hes children i know of as lots of potters in croydon..
jew
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Tricky problem finding Alfred's siblings because his father & mother moved about a lot.
Suggest you look at the 1891 census when I believe they were in Hammersmith to see if he had any younger brothers & sisters (other than his sister Rose). If the 1901 census is anything to go by, I feel it unlikely.
Rose/Rosina looks to have married in Croydon during the June quarter of 1901, but there are many Potters, I cannot be totally sure it was her.
Note: I added a bit to my last message and it crossed with your reply.
It suggests where George was on earlier censuses and that he may not have been born in Brighton at all, but in Shoreham or Hove. See Births Steyning district June quarter 1856, GRO ref 2b 231
Once you have some firm dates and places, compare them with the names subscribers to Genes Reunited are interested in so you can see who else is interested in your family. For example, there is one for George Potter born 1856 Hove and another for Alfred born Brighton 1879.
Roy G
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Hi
Roy yes seems they have moved around abit so not easy work..
I have to get certs
Thankyou
jew
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I think Alfred's sister Rose Potter (born Mayfield c 1883) is on the 1911 Croydon census under the surname of King. That would tie her in with a marriage to Joseph James King in Croydon in 1901. I suspect the young Rosina was more likely to have been her daughter than Alfred's but could not positively trace her
Roy G
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Hi roy
About rose yes i have she born or came from mayfield.. Rose is on my dads side of family and i have kings from croydon on my mums side of family,i have to try and find out about this king.
Thankyou
jew
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Hi roy
You said rose the daughter went by surname king.. What i have she came from mayfield. Than i have her living at Adeliaide road croydon name Rosina norman 7 months instead of surname king.
jew
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I think you and I are at crossed purposes somewhere, not surprising considering the family have 3 generations of Roses. So recapping what has gone before:
The 1901 Croydon census has:
George Potter head m 50 flower ? Brighton Sussex
Rosetta wife m 47 do Whitey? surrey
Alfred son s 21 do Brighton sussex
Rose dau s 18 laundress mayfield sussex
Rosina g.dau 7m croydon surrey
Rose the daughter above (born Mayfield) looks to have married Joseph James King in Croydon in 1901.
Rose the daughter above (born Mayfield) then appears on the 1911 Croydon census as Mrs Rose King.
Are you saying your transcript of 19 Adelaide Street on the 1901 census has Rosina the grand daughter as Rosina Norman, but the Norman surname has been missed off the above entry? My index differs, because it has her as Rosina Potter.
Whatever, it looks highly probable that the grand daughter Rosina would have been the illegitimate child of Rose from Mayfield. Furthermore, Rosina may not have been fathered by the person Rose from Mayfield chose to marry, but could have been fathered by someone else. But the 'Norman' surname seems to have come from a false lead that also gave you an incorrect birth year for Alfred.
Roy G
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Hi roy
I'm not sure who send me this info been while now. I never wrote down the census year. But this i wrote down that was sent to me.
John 29 coal carman
susan 28 from kent
susan kate 9yrs
Alfred john 7yrs
Rosey norman 5 mths( relative) I will get certs sometime in week got loads to get.
jew
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Hi roy
I be back on here littie bit later to send any replys to messages sent to me.
Thanks for the help.
jew
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Hi roy
I think this was a false lead about rose. This is the info given to me.
This what was sent to me My grandad George potter was born march quarter 1915 croydon in 1911 must be census... His family were living 70 forester rd croydon.
John 29 coal carmen croydon
susan 28 kent
susan kate 9yrs
Alfred john 7yrs
Rosey norman 5 mths (Relative) census records.
Another address to the one you gave me..
jew