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Title: John HARKIN (S) (Donegal)
Post by: little annie on Friday 12 November 10 22:32 GMT (UK)
I am looking for infomation on Micheal or John Harkin, i believe they both entered America via Canada.
Michael entered Canada 24/8/1923 one of them was killed not to sure which side of the boarder riding the trains i think it was America.
My uncle in Derry came across one of the sons during WW2 in Derry i think he was in the US Navy.
One of them came over in the fifties or (sixties) with there son. I think they lived around the East coast New York area
                                                                 Little Annie
Title: Re: HARKIN (Donegal)
Post by: merjones on Friday 12 November 10 22:53 GMT (UK)
Michael Joseph Harkin

Title: Re: HARKIN (Donegal)
Post by: shellyesq on Saturday 13 November 10 00:04 GMT (UK)
Do you have a date of birth for either of them?
Title: Re: HARKIN (Donegal)
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Saturday 13 November 10 00:30 GMT (UK)
Michael's date of birth is shown as 25th March 1895, born Derry, on the registration card. There is at least one possible match on the 1901 & 1911 censuses but no sign of a brother John.

www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/No__4_Urban__West_Ward/Nelson_Street/1537562/

www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Londonderry_Urban__4_/Wellington_Street/604303/

Not sure therefore if it’s the correct family.
Title: Re: HARKIN (Donegal)
Post by: shellyesq on Saturday 13 November 10 02:12 GMT (UK)
That's why I asked for the dates of birth - I'm not sure if the registration card is for the right guy (and it will probably be removed by the copyright editors anyway.)  Also, Annie, if you have the name of the ship he came over on, that might help.  I couldn't find him on a passenger list for the date you give, and a manifest might say where his final destination was.
Title: Re: HARKIN (Donegal)
Post by: little annie on Saturday 13 November 10 09:49 GMT (UK)
Thank you for all for responding to my query, the records i have is
Michael born 12/9/1892
John born 14/9/1896
 They were born in & lived in BallyLiffin, Donegal, Ireland which is just over the Boarder from Derry/Londonderry Northern Ireland
There parents were James Harkin / Fanny McCallion.
 The Roots Chatter that gave me the record for Canada i hoping to get the name of the ship if they have it
                        Little Annie
Title: Re: HARKIN (Donegal)
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 13 November 10 10:21 GMT (UK)
Previous thread on Donegal board:
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,290957.0.html
Title: Re: HARKIN (Donegal)
Post by: little annie on Saturday 13 November 10 10:53 GMT (UK)
Thanks aghadowey
 i was wondering how to do that
                                                     Little Annie
Title: Re: HARKIN (Donegal)
Post by: merjones on Saturday 13 November 10 17:00 GMT (UK)

Any chance this could be Michael?

Jan 20 1910 Ship California

Michael Harkin age 18, born Clonmany Donegal Ireland, final destination Boston, Massachusetts, last address with father James Harkin Glebe, Clonmany, Donegal, Ireland.

Traveling to a cousin, Daniel Reddy, 212 A**erville Avenue, Boston, Massachusetts
Title: Re: HARKIN (Donegal)
Post by: shellyesq on Saturday 13 November 10 17:07 GMT (UK)
I found the 1923 trip to Canada under Mick Harkin.  He's listed as 27 years old, which seems off from the birth date you have.  It says he was born in Rashenney, Clonmany and his father James lived there too.
Title: Re: HARKIN (Donegal)
Post by: shellyesq on Saturday 13 November 10 17:21 GMT (UK)
This may be your John -
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ae0/

Title: Re: HARKIN (Donegal)
Post by: little annie on Sunday 14 November 10 20:00 GMT (UK)
Hello shellyesq
Sorry about the late reply had a busy weekend.
 Looking at Michael's record for 1910 could be correct as i cannot see him on the Irish census 1911.
I wonder if his (cousin)? is really called Ruddy as a fellow roots chatter is looking for the same surname a Mary Ruddy married a Denis McCallion, Michael's mother was called Fanny McCallion.
The record for Mick Harkin in Canada is correct just age is wrong . His brother my G father James gave his place of residence as Rashenney, this is just a guess i wonder if Michael went to Canada to look for work?.
A lot of guess work i know, will try to find out more info from my cousin in Derry
thank you for your help
                                 Little Annie
Title: Re: HARKIN (Donegal)
Post by: shellyesq on Sunday 14 November 10 20:29 GMT (UK)
The Social Security Death Index (available free at www.rootsweb.com or www.familysearch.org) has a John Harkins born 14 Sep. 1896 and died Nov. 1974.  His Social Security number was issued in Massachusetts before 1951, and his last residence was West Roxbury, Suffolk Co., Massachusetts.  The Massachusetts death index has a John Harkins who died in Boston on 19 Nov. 1974.
Title: Re: HARKIN (Donegal)
Post by: little annie on Sunday 14 November 10 20:44 GMT (UK)
I would say that is my John Harkin i have just talked to a cousin who remembers his death but was just a year out she thought it was 1975 i cannot thank you enough for all your help
                                                    Little Annie
Title: Re: HARKIN (Donegal)
Post by: shellyesq on Sunday 14 November 10 20:52 GMT (UK)
You're welcome.  I also found the following on a naturalization record index:

John Harkins
3 Central Place, Boston, Charlestown
Age 40 yrs.  Date of order of admission - March 29, 1937
Date certificate issued - March 29, 1937 by the US District Court in Boston, Massachusetts
Petition no. 173982

I found an obituary for a possible daughter of John - I'll send it to you via private message, as it contains possibly living people.
Title: Re: John HARKIN (S) (Donegal)
Post by: little annie on Friday 19 November 10 20:30 GMT (UK)
Hi everyone
I have made contact with one of John's daughters. I had no idea if there was any family at all.
 I can not thank you enough for taking the time to look up records for me .
I think the Mick Harkin from the Glebe is not of my direct family, i am waiting for more infomation from my relation's let you know in due course.
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                                                                                     Little Annie










Title: Re: John HARKIN (S) (Donegal)
Post by: little annie on Saturday 20 November 10 22:17 GMT (UK)
Hello again
It seems Michael did die riding the trains,i don't know if you can help me on his death but family thinks he died in Montana??
                                                                 Little Annie
Title: Re: John HARKIN (S) (Donegal)
Post by: shellyesq on Sunday 21 November 10 13:25 GMT (UK)
There are some databases for Montana deaths here:  http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ahd/
Title: Re: John HARKIN (S) (Donegal)
Post by: little annie on Tuesday 23 November 10 18:55 GMT (UK)
Thank's shellyesq
I had a look but can not see him, at least your more helpful than some of my relatives .
         Little Annie
Title: Re: John HARKIN (S) (Donegal)
Post by: little annie on Thursday 02 December 10 23:11 GMT (UK)
Hello again
Still on the trail of Micheal,the latest info i have been given is that Micheal was buried in Salem .MA any help always appreciated
                                                                            Little Annie