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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Carmarthenshire => Topic started by: farmyard on Tuesday 16 November 10 22:46 GMT (UK)

Title: Thomas, Carmarthen, Williams, Pembrokeshire, Churchill, Sully, Somerset
Post by: farmyard on Tuesday 16 November 10 22:46 GMT (UK)

I am looking for info on a THOMAS family - Samuel Thomas, tailor, b Llangynor ? father John victualler b abt 1780 -mother possibly Sarah.

Samuel's son Edwin b 1848, Mary Ann 1841 and Henry 1846 were born in Swansea, but the family later moved back to Carmarthen where Thomas was born 1850 St David's.
Samuel married Martha Williams b 1816 Haverfordwest but her parents Thomas Williams and Mary? were living in Carmarthen 1841. 

Thomas married an Eliza and lived in Merthyr Tydfil where Widow Martha moved to.
Edwin a tailor, married Eliza Sully (from Somerset) and her grandfather David Churchill tailor and inn keeper from Somerton went to live in Tredegor where he died in 1876.

Edwin lived in Tredegar, Mountain Ash, Glamorgan before moving to Liverpool in 1878. He had 10 children.

I would be grateful to hear from anyone who thinks these names could be of  their family.

Title: Re: Thomas, Carmarthen, Williams, Pembrokeshire, Churchill, Sully, Somerset
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 17 November 10 00:32 GMT (UK)

Samuel & Martha married in Carmarthen in 1838 as per freebmd.  The 1841 census shows them both aged 25 and living in Swansea with 6mth old daughter Mary Ann (shown as 6yrs old)

Both  Samuel & Martha are shown as not born in county

HO107 Piece 1426/6  Folio 22 Page 35

1851 shows Martha as married - occupation wife/housekeeper and birthplace is Haverfordwest Pembrokeshire but no Samuel in household

Title: Re: Thomas, Carmarthen, Williams, Pembrokeshire, Churchill, Sully, Somerset
Post by: farmyard on Wednesday 17 November 10 21:35 GMT (UK)

Thanks Carole. 

I do have a copy of Sam. and Martha's wedding lines, they were married in Lammas St, Carmarthen,  but I am looking to go back to their parents or forward to their children, apart from Edwin.
On their marriage cert. there are witnesses, George and William Spurrell, another name to play with.

I have Sam as a visitor with David Ellis in Merthyr Tydfil on the 1851 census.

Martha's father gives his place of birth as Nerem, Pembrokeshire, but I have been unable to locate this place.  (Elizabeth his wife is born St Peters, Carmarthen.)  Any help in that direction would be welcome.

Averil

Title: Re: Thomas, Carmarthen, Williams, Pembrokeshire, Churchill, Sully, Somerset
Post by: blodynglas on Wednesday 17 November 10 21:49 GMT (UK)

Quote from: farmyard on Wednesday 17 November 10 21:35 GMT (UK)

Thanks Carole. 

I do have a copy of Sam. and Martha's wedding lines, they were married in Lammas St, Carmarthen,  but I am looking to go back to their parents or forward to their children, apart from Edwin.
On their marriage cert. there are witnesses, George and William Spurrell, another name to play with.

I have Sam as a visitor with David Ellis in Merthyr Tydfil on the 1851 census.

Martha's father gives his place of birth as Nerem, Pembrokeshire, but I have been unable to locate this place.  (Elizabeth his wife is born St Peters, Carmarthen.)  Any help in that direction would be welcome.

Averil

  Nerem is probably Nevern, Pembrokeshire

Title: Re: Thomas, Carmarthen, Williams, Pembrokeshire, Churchill, Sully, Somerset
Post by: farmyard on Thursday 18 November 10 19:27 GMT (UK)

Thanks Blodynglas, I did wonder if the translation was wrong and it was Nevern. Under the microscope certainly looks like it. Cheers Averil.