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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Berwickshire => Topic started by: evaret on Sunday 21 November 10 11:53 GMT (UK)
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I am seeking information on the birth of a William Stoddart.
The only information I have is the 1871 England census. It gives his age as 52 (born about 1819) and his birth place as Lauder Scotland. I have not been able to find him in the scotlandspeople site.
He married Ann Alexander in the late 1840s in Northumberland, where he spent the rest of his life.
Cheers
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Hi Evaret
Apologies, if you have this already but I can find the family in the 1851, 1861, 1871, 1881 and 1891 census, however I think I may have found William in the 1841 census HO107 818 b 1816 Scotland and living in the Civil Parish of Bamburgh - Township Fleetham - Hundred Bambrough - County Northumberland. If you check this area using Genuki I think that you will find it to be extremely close to where the family later settled.
Using the info I searched Scotlands People site pre 1855 Births and Baptisms, and there is a listing for a William Stoddart b 1816 in the county of Bewick and there appears to be 1 match, not sure if this is yours, however may I suggest that if have any info on who his father was from their marriage certificate, include this in your search and who knows this could be you man!!!!
Regards
Z :)
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I just wanted to ask how you got Anns Maiden Name.
Was it from a Childs Birth Cert?
I cant find the Marriage of William Stoddart to Ann Alexander on FreeBMD.
I can find one to Ann ROGERS in 1848 and have additional info on that including Fathers names.
1841 Census has a William Stodart born c 1821 in Berwickshire with a Robert Stoddart age 25 c 1816. I notice William names a Son Robert.
Channelkirk/1/1/1470
Trish :)
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Z and Trish
Thanks for the prompt reply and info.
I had tried the 1841 England census via Ancestry.com and could not get a William Stoddart. Z, I wasn't sure how to use the reference you gave but based on your lead, I browsed each district and eventually found a William Stoddard, living in Fleetham. District 7
If his age in the 1841 census was recorded as 25, he would have been between 25 and 29. His birth was then between 1812 and 1816. The 1851 census has him in Eglingham aged 30, born about 1821. In 1861, he was in Eglingham aged 42 - born 1819. In 1871, he was 52 - born 1819.
I have now found a William Stoddart in the 1841 Scotland census - aged 20 and living in Channelkirk. Trish, I think this is the one you mention
Trish, I have a birth certificate for Elizabeth Stoddart born in 1847 in Blackchesters. Her mother's maiden name is Ann Alexander. This maiden name also appears on the birth certificate of the son William born in 1849 in Harehope. The 1841 England census has a Ann Alexander living in Blackchesters. So William and Ann probably married there and lived there for the first couple of years of their marriage
But I cannot locate a marriage for William and Ann
Any other thoughts are most welcome
Regards
Evaret
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Hi all
found on scotlandspeople
The only william stoddart I could find in Berwickshire in a 10 year period.
1 25/10/1824 STODDART WILLIAM, JAMES STODDART/SARAH PATERSON FR246 M EARLSTON /BERWICK 736/00 0020 0022
Search criteria I used.
You searched for: Surname: "sto*d*rt"; Surname Option: Wildcard; Forename: "william"; Forename Option: Prefix; Sex: "Male"; Date From: 01 January 1814; Date To: 31 December 1824; County: BERWICK
Yours Aye
BruceL
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this is my great great grandad if you look on the census they say his birthplace Lorton.
did you find any more information ? ive only got up to him and ann.
they all moved around Northumberland on the farms he was a horsebreaker and farm hand he had a son Robert who is my great granddad and he married Elizabeth bayliss and they lived in Lancashire Liverpool he was a publican
they had my granddad in 1901 nov issac bayliss stoddart who lived in litherland with my nan agnes mary smith aug 1913 and they married at Crosby 1936 he worked at the Bryant and may matchworks he lived in rose avenue L21 till he died of a heart attack my nan moved to Formby and passed away in 2008 xxx :)
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how are you related to William and Robert ? ;D
Name Robert Stoddart
Event Type Census
Event Date 1871
Event Place Seaton, Seaton, Cumberland, England
Enumeration District 1
Gender Male
Age 8
Occupation Scholar
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Birth Year (Estimated) 1863
Birthplace Camerton, Cumberland
Entry Number 21
Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/5241/0021
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
William Stoddart Head M 52 Lorton, Cumberland
Ann Stoddart Wife F 53 Egremont, Cumberland
William Stoddart Son M 22 Camerton, Cumberland
John Stoddart Son M 10 Camerton, Cumberland
Robert Stoddart Son M 8 Camerton, Cumberland
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My William Stoddart is my great great grandfather. I think he is a different one to yours. This William lived in Eglingham in 1871 and he died there in 1891.
Cheers
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hi,
yes my great great grandfather is the same as yours ive traced all of the places they lived his son Robert moved and had my grandad which son/ daughter of William is yours xxhttp://www.oldscottish.com/lauder.html
try here as they say something about it pre dates the official 1841 census I think this would be him this is why we he looks like he has gone missing hope this helps there is a john who is a servant at lady part this was the name for the grounds at the thirlestane castle if you look on an old map theres not much there home wise
xxx
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William Stoddart Head M 53 Lander, Scotland
Ann Stoddart Wife F 50 Alnham, Northumberland
Elizabeth Stoddart Daughter F 23 Eglingham, Northumberland
William Stoddart Son M 21 Eglingham, Northumberland
James Stoddart Son M 19 Eglingham, Northumberland
Robert Stoddart Son M 15 Eglingham, Northumberland
John Stoddart Son M 12 Whittingham, Northumberland
Andrew Stoddart Son M 9 Eglingham, Northumberland
Thomas Stoddart Son M 7 Eglingham, Northumberland
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Hugh Waddel labourer Lauder
William Stoddart labourer Lauder
Alexr Whitlaw dealer in stoneware Lauder
William Watson labourer Lauder
Hu Waddel residenter Lauder
found this on http://www.oldscottish.com/lauder.html as these pre dated the official 1841 census will let you have a look at them this is why we probably cannot find anything :) xx
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Welcome to Rootschat bexs1,
They are 2 different Families.
STODDART, ISABELLA, Mothers mn WEARE****
GRO Reference: 1855 D Quarter in COCKERMOUTH Volume 10B Page 410
Isabella born c 1856 on the 1861 Census under Studdart.
And your Roberts GRO Index Birth Reg with Mothers mn;
STODDART, ROBERT, Mothers mn WEAR****
GRO Reference: 1863 J Quarter in COCKERMOUTH Volume 10B Page 524
Marriage;
Name: William Stoddart
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 1 Jul 1838
Marriage Place: Harrington,Cumberland,England
Spouse: Ann Wear
Trish :)
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1871 for your Family;
William Stoddart 52, born Lorton
Ann Stoddart, 53
William Stoddart, 22
John Stoddart, 10
ROBERT Stoddart, 8*****
1861
William Studdart, 43, born Lorton
Ann Studdart, 44
Joseph Studdart, 20
Sarah Studdart, 16
William Studdart, 14
Mary Studdart, 9
Isabella Studdart, 5***
Jane Studdart, 2
John Studdart, 6mths
1851
William Stoddart, 31, born Flimby
Ann Stoddart, 31
Joseph Stoddart, 10
Ann Stoddart, 8
Sarah Stoddart, 5
William Stoddart, 3
John Stoddart, 1, born Flimby**
1841 Census
Flimby**, Cumberland
William Stothard, 20, Ag Lab
Ann Stothard, 20
Joseph Stothard, 1
STODDART, JOSEPH, Mothers mn WEAR***
GRO Reference: 1840 J Quarter in COCKERMOUTH Volume 25 Page 95
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1881 Census Robert S, Son of William S and Ann Wear is with his Sister now married in Seaton, Cumberland.
James Corrie, 42, Head, Mar, Coal Miner, born Scotland
ANN Corrie, 37, Wife, Mar, born Flimby, Cumberland***
William Corrie, 15
Francis Corrie, 13
Sarah Ann Corrie, 9
John Corrie, 6
Isabella Corrie, 5
James Corrie, 2
Robert Stoddart, 17, Brother in Law, Labourer, born Seaton, Cumberland***
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1881 Ann Stoddart nee Wear is in Lancashire with Daug Sarah.
Sarah Nicolson, 34, Head (Wife), Mar, Sea Captains Wife, born Artleby, Cumberland**
Ann J. Nicolson, 5
John Nicolson, 2
Ann Stodart, 65, Widow, Mother in Law, born Egremont, Cumberland***
Ann would be Mother in Law to the head of household Sarahs husband.
Birth Reg GRO Index;
STODDART, SARAH, Mothers mn WEIR***
GRO Reference: 1845 S Quarter in COCKERMOUTH Volume 25 Page 98
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Lots of recent posts here which is good
My great grandfather is Thomas Stoddart, born in 1863 in Eglingham.
The link to oldscottish.com is great. There seem to be 3 Stoddarts of interest
William Stoddart, labourer, Lauder - 1834,35
John Stoddart, servant and shepherd, Ladypart - 1834,35, 36, 37, 40
Stewart Stoddart, hynd, Addenstone - 1840, 41
It is tempting to think this William Stoddart is the same as the one I am interested in. Except 'my' William would have been only 15-17 in 1834. Perhaps one of these Stoddarts was his father
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Hi evaret,
Dont you have you Williams M/C to Ann Alexander to establish his Fathers name and occp?
Trish :)
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Trish, unfortunately I don't have any details of his marriage - date, place, certificate.
Nor can I find him in the 1841 census. I have found his wife, Ann Alexander, in the 1841 census living with her parents at Alnham. So he was married after 1841 and presumably before the birth of their first child in 1847
Cheers
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Cant find a Marriage either ???