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Title: Allingham,where?
Post by: Seoras on Monday 13 December 10 14:05 GMT (UK)
I am following the Line of Crawford Allingham who married my GG grandmother's youngest daughter in Scotland.I have his father Thomas and his grandfather Crawford born about 1837 Ireland.His father James born Ireland about 1810 married Elisabeth Hurst in Ireland about 1835.All I have is Ireland,is there any site I could look at to try and find where in Ireland?

George.
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 13 December 10 14:29 GMT (UK)
To find Irish ancestors for such an early period you need to see if church records exist.
Have a look at Introduction to Irish Records (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html) and My Ancestor came from Ireland - where do I start? (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,498742.0.html).

Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Pastmagic on Monday 13 December 10 15:20 GMT (UK)
William Allingham the poet lived in Donegal:

William Allingham (19 March 1824 or 1828 - 18 November 1889) was an Irish man of letters and a poet.

He was born in Ballyshannon, County Donegal, Ireland and was the son of the manager of a local bank who was of English descent. He obtained a post in the custom-house of his native town and held several similar posts in Ireland and England until 1870, when he had retired from the service, and became sub-editor of Fraser's Magazine, which he edited from 1874 to 1879, in succession to James Froude. He had published a volume of Poems in 1850, followed by Day and Night Songs, a volume containing many charming lyrics, in 1855. Allingham was on terms of close friendship with DG Rossetti, who contributed to the illustration of the Songs. His Letters to Allingham (1854-1870) were edited by Dr. Birkbeck Hill in 1897. Lawrence Bloomfield in Ireland, his most ambitious, though not his most successful work, a narrative poem illustrative of Irish social questions, appeared in 1864. He also edited The Ballad Book for the Golden Treasury series in 1864.

In 1874 Allingham married Helen Paterson, known under her married name as a water-colour painter. He died at Hampstead in 1889, and his ashes are interred at St. Anne's in his native Ballyshannon.

Though working on an unostentatious scale, Allingham produced much excellent lyrical and descriptive poetry, and the best of his pieces are thoroughly national in spirit and local colouring. His verse is clear, fresh, and graceful.

Other works are Fifty Modern Poems (1865), Songs, Poems, and Ballads (1877), Evil May Day (1883), Blackberries (1884), Irish Songs and Poems (1887), and Varieties in Prose (1893), and, arguably his most famous work, "The Faeries" (see below).

William Allingham: a Diary (1907), edited by Mrs Allingham and D Radford, contains many interesting reminiscences of Tennyson, Carlyle and other famous contemporaries.

From:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Allingham

Some of the poems are on:

http://www.irishcultureandcustoms.com/poetry/TheFairies.html

Rosalie Allingham was married to John Boyle  MP for Donegal. That is Rosalie there in my icon picture.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Boyle_%28Donegal_politician%29

Pigots Directory 1824 Donegal

Allingham C.T. Salt Works Portnassaw Ballyshannon
Allingham Christian, Esq Nobility & Gentry Ballyshannon
Allingham Edward Tanner Willybrook Ballyshannon
Allingham Edward, Esq Nobility & Gentry Willybrook Ballyshannon
Allingham Edward, Esq Nobility & Gentry Bundoran Ballyshannon
Allingham John, Lieut,HP,Dragoons Nobility & Gentry Ballyshannon
Allingham William Merchant Park Lane Ballyshannon
Allingham William Tanner Park Lane Ballyshannon
Allingham William Wine Merchant Park Lane Ballyshannon

There is some evidence that there were  English Allinghams in Donegal as early as 1590:

http://ralphinla.rootsweb.ancestry.com/alingirl.htm

Seems they spread into surrounding counties in Ulster - several branches on this site.

Hope you find yours somewhere in that lot!

Old roots thread with a "Crawford Allingham"

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=9btc6bo5uque1r9qei91jvbko2&topic=494692.0

And a James:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,498980.msg3558224.html
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Seoras on Monday 13 December 10 17:34 GMT (UK)
Aghadowey,thank you for those two links,very,very useful.I have two GG grandparents that I also suspect came from Ireland but am going to try and pin down the Allinghams first.At the moment I am thinking Thomas would be the one I need to track as I feel him or his father were the ones to leave Ireland.

Pastmagic,thank you for that very detailed reply,there is much to follow up on.I was very interested in your information about William Allingham as I have always had an interest in poetry and do write some myself(badly) from time to time.I had a  PM earlier that also mentioned Donegal,so maybe this is the place to start.

Thank you both again.

George.
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Seoras on Monday 13 December 10 18:45 GMT (UK)
I have just done some backtracking on a few things I knew and also had a look at some census returns.

Crawford Allingham born Torpichen Scotland 1897

Father Thomas Allingham born Armadale Scotland 1869

His father Crawford Allingham born Ireland circa 1837.
This Crawford married Isabella Brownlie(also born Ireland)
in Glasgow in 1855.In 1871 they have 6 children,Margaret,
William,Elizabeth,James,Francis and the above Thomas.

His father James Crawford was married to Elizabeth Hurst.

So now to find out whether it was James or his son Crawford
who left Ireland and where from.
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Pastmagic on Monday 13 December 10 20:18 GMT (UK)
Found your Crawford amongst the Leitrim Allinghams:
http://ralphinla.rootsweb.ancestry.com/alinglei.htm

In the Sixth Generation section. Looks like someone  in America has done the work already. Treat with caution, but he does have a lot of citations. You will be weeks checking this lot out! He gives five previous generations before Crawford.....

30. Crawford6 Allingham (James5, James4, Leitrim County3, GreatGrandson of Hugh2, Grandson of Hugh1)(107) (#7720) was born in Co. Leitrim, Ireland in 1834.(108) Crawford died in 1898 in Muiravonside, Scotland, at 64 years of age.(109)
 
He married Isabelle Brownlie June 3, 1859 in Calton, Scotland.(110) (Isabelle Brownlie is #7721.) Isabelle was born in 1835 in Co. Leitrim, Ireland.(111) Isabelle(112) was the daughter of John Brownlie and Unknown Given Name Mclaren. Isabelle died in 1906 in Litlitgow, Scotland, at 71 years of age.(113)

James features too:For James he has: 13. James5 Allingham (James4, Leitrim County3, GreatGrandson of Hugh2, Grandson of Hugh1)(20) (#7695) was born in Co. Leitrim, Ireland in 1795.(21) James died January 25, 1855 in Lanarkshire, Scotland, at 59 years of age.(22) PM
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Seoras on Tuesday 14 December 10 00:53 GMT (UK)
Hi Pastmagic,I see what you mean,good job I have a day off tomorrow.Yes you are right,the marriage was 1859 not 1855,just deciphered it.Both fathers were deceased but both mothers alive.Isabella's mother was Margaret McLaren.Thank you very much for all that,I will have a day wading through it.

Interesting that Isabella died in Linlithgow as the mother of the woman her grandson married was born there as were many of her family.

George.
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Pastmagic on Tuesday 14 December 10 02:01 GMT (UK)
Yes.I noticed that too. Anyway, it looks like your Allinghams were the original Donegal ones, who moved into Leitrm. I think you should contact the owner of this tree, as his references to original PR's and land records seem very authentic, and if he was kind enough to send you copies, it would make life easier. Several places in Letrim your family came from as well to explore.  Nice, and unusual,  to find potential previous generations so well laid out and documented all at once!

The one thing I would mention is that he has misread the Griffiths valuations - the amounts were not the value of the land, but the tax to be paid by the occupier, who could be a tennant or an owner, and that he may go astray now and then on giving too much credence to some records. But generally it is a fine piece of work.

James as a weaver going to Scotland for work makes perfect sense.I wonder if it was because of the famine? Anyway, you have a lot more to go on with scotland sites, to establish when they came, if this lot checks out.

It was pure luck - I just put Crawford Allingham with his dates into google, and there he was....PM
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Seoras on Thursday 16 December 10 12:01 GMT (UK)
Hi PM,I am still wading through the info in America.I was looking for an email on there but it just gives a P.O. box and the date is 2001,so I am wondering if he will still be contactable at this number.I have quite a bit of info on the Allinghams in Scotland he doesn't seem to have that he may want.

I found two good reasons why the Allinghams would have left Leitrim for Scotland.The first was recession caused by mechanisation of the linen weaving industry.Torpichen where they settled still has some old weavers cottages.
The second was as you suggested the famine which hit the county hard.In 10 years between 1841 and 1851 Leitrim lost a fifth of it's population through emigration and more again after this period.

George.
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Pastmagic on Thursday 16 December 10 14:19 GMT (UK)
Hi George, there is an email for him on this:

http://ralphinla.rootsweb.ancestry.com/alsurnam.htm

Maybe that is worth a try. Last modified in 1999 so here is hoping.

Lots of other Allinghams have posted on this.

He has a differnt one - again 1999 on this one re the Allinghams of Leitrim, It looks like he established a one name study type of thing and has collected the Allinghams and their info on several  sites.

http://newsarch.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/ALLINGHAM/1999-02/0918830485

The site was very busy up to 2009. The last message reads: :D

Henry Allingham, the world's oldest man, has died aged 113. He was the last survivor of the Battle of Jutland and he also saw the Battle of the Somme from the skies - he was a member of the RAF. The BBC web site has full details see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8157128.stm

The messages from199 to 2009 are on:

http://newsarch.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ALLINGHAM

Lots of ones of interest to you - for example, this chap is desended from your James:

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/ALLINGHAM/2001-06/0992437393

Hope you can contact him through either these emails or the rootsweb locations. cant find any recent sightings of him - but a lot of people out there researching your Allinghams.

These came up when I googled his full name + Allingham Leitrm.

Happy hunting! PM.

PS: Given your poetry writing, here is the poet himself!

Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Pastmagic on Thursday 16 December 10 14:35 GMT (UK)
Hi George,

Your original query was: Allingham, Where?

One theory  on the origins of the name - is as follows:

Allingham  is an English locational or residential surname. Recorded as Allingham and occasionally Elingham or Ellingham, it is what is known as a "lost" village surname. It originates from either Allingham, now a suburb of the city of Bradford in West Yorkshire, or from Allingham Hall, formerly Allingham village, near Shrewsbury, in the county of Shropshire. Both villages have or had, a similar Olde English pre 7th century origin. This is the tribal name Aella or Aelda, with "-ing" meaning people of, and "-ham", the homestead or settlement. "Lost" villages are a feature of the British Isles. It is estimated that not less than five thousand surnames do originate from places that have disappeared from the maps over the past five hundred years. The reasons are complex, but can usually be explained by changes in agricultural practice mainly in the 18th century, and more recently, increasing suburbanization. However the great medieval plagues and even war, have played some part. In this case examples of the surname recording taken from early surviving church registers of the diocese of Greater London include: Kather Elingham, a witness at St Botolphs Bishopgate on September 30th 1594, and Margery Allingham, who married John Bourder at St Mary's Putney, on September 19th 1645.

To be taken with a little salt.....

Read more: http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Allingham#ixzz18HkEyAAR
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Seoras on Thursday 16 December 10 17:12 GMT (UK)
Hi PM,thank you for all that.Reading through(and it takes some working out),his theory is that all the Allinghams of Donegal,Leitrim,Sligo and Fermanagh are decended from the original Hugh Allingham of Donegal.I had them as far back as James but it's fantastic to have confirmation of where they were from.If I am reading it correctly this James,born Leitrim about 1795 is descended from the Donegal Allinghams.Fascinating stuff.Thank you too for the photo of William,I will have to get hold of some of his work.Is the picture of Rosalie a photo or painting.

Now to find the Welch/Welsh Dale Robinson Wamsley and possibly McBride families :)

George.
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Pastmagic on Thursday 16 December 10 17:57 GMT (UK)
Hi George,

Hope you find him! Yes, That is his theory, not quite proven, in my view!
Rosalie is actually Roseline, don't know how I got that wrong. I have two of her - both photos, so I will e-mail them to you later. WW wrote lots of poems. This one could be retitled: Found at Last...for all you people out there that finally, finally figured it out!

A Gravestone

   
Far from the churchyard dig his grave,
On some green mound beside the wave;
To westward, sea and sky alone,
And sunsets. Put a mossy stone,
With mortal name and date, a harp
And bunch of wild flowers, carven sharp;
Then leave it free to winds that blow,
And patient mosses creeping; slow,
And wandering wings, and footsteps rare
Of human creature pausing there.

William Allingham

The mortal name, and hopefully dates, mother father and children being the important bit!

You will find the lot on:
http://www.poemhunter.com/william-allingham/

All he  got on his own was:

201 William Allingham, Poet, born at Ballyshannon March 19, 1824. Died in London, November 18, 1889.

But there is an interesting drawing by his wife of him on his deathbead  incuded with the inscription. Lots of other Allingham memorials on this page.

William's brother Hugh was an Historian

http://www.archive.org/stream/ballyshannonits00alligoog#page/n6/mode/2up


PM



 
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Seoras on Friday 17 December 10 00:46 GMT (UK)
Wow,just been reading some of his poems PM,Half Waking,A Gravestone,The Boy,An Evening,A Dream,simply beautiful.The sense of longing,loss and regret of things past that can't be recovered runs very deep in some of them.I love his use of allegory,he seems to be speaking of one thing but you know it's a cover for what he really means.Thank you for introducing me to him,I will definately try and obtain some of his work.

George.
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Gombeen Man on Monday 20 December 10 19:24 GMT (UK)

Rosalie Allingham was married to John Boyle  MP for Donegal. That is Rosalie there in my icon picture.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Boyle_%28Donegal_politician%29

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,498980.msg3558224.html

@Pastmagic, Interesting note on John Boyle. He is my Great-great-granduncle. I wonder who entered the Data on wikipedia
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Pastmagic on Monday 20 December 10 20:34 GMT (UK)
Hi There! He is my great gran uncle too! Which of the siblings is your great grandfather?  Here is his Father and Mother, with assorted children, and another one of him too.

Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Gombeen Man on Monday 20 December 10 20:38 GMT (UK)
Johnnie Edward, John Gerard is the line. I bet your line is Tarrent
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Pastmagic on Monday 20 December 10 20:45 GMT (UK)
Me too - Here is JE and Brigid on their wedding day: Stop me if you have all of these already!
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Pastmagic on Monday 20 December 10 20:46 GMT (UK)
Yes indeed!
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Gombeen Man on Monday 20 December 10 20:48 GMT (UK)
IŽll send you a PM, otherwise we are setting this thread off topic.
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Pastmagic on Monday 20 December 10 20:53 GMT (UK)
Quite Right!

George, Here are the two Allingham Pics I said I would post for you.
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Pastmagic on Monday 20 December 10 22:43 GMT (UK)
Last Allingham Pic - got your PM, George, good luck with your  other Irish lines. We have taken the Boyle discussion elsewhere! Think that is Rosaline in the back seat.
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Ian Allan on Saturday 11 June 11 04:18 BST (UK)
Seoras:

Did you have any success with your research into Crawfords and Allinghams. My grandfather was Robert Crawford Allingham (1883-1973) from Glasgow. He was the youngest of 10 children. His older brother, James, had a son William McChesney Allingham, who was killed in World War I and is remembered on the Tyne Cot Memorial in Belgium. This group of 10 kids comes from James Allingham and Ann Flynn, who were married in Ireland (I believe) on August 19, 1857. According to research by another man many years ago, James Allingham was the son of another James Allingham, while Ann Flynn was the daughter of a John Flynn. Can you fill in any of the blanks here for me? I can give more details on this branch of the family tree if you want.
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Seoras on Saturday 11 June 11 12:52 BST (UK)
Hi Ian,most of my Allinghams in Scotland seem to have been around the Bathgate/Torphichen areas,but Robert and Crawford seem to be common names in the Leitrim Allinghams.I have really only followed my Crawford but have recently found another Allingham connection in my tree,Francis.I am working most of today but will have a look at my files tomorrow.Most of the info I have was very kindly supplied by Pastmagic including this link below to Allingham lineage which you might find useful.

http://ralphinla.rootsweb.ancestry.com/alinglei.htm

Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Ian Allan on Saturday 11 June 11 15:46 BST (UK)
Wow. That's remarkable work. My family works into section 27. I don't see where I should email in additions. For James Allingham (the key guy in section 27), there is a 12th child -- Robert Crawford Allingham. That's my grandfather.  I have other details on this specific branch of the family. One of James Allingham's children (James Allingham), had a son Willie Allingham who was killed in WWI. 
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Seoras on Saturday 11 June 11 20:09 BST (UK)
Hi Ian,I should have said also welcome to Roots Chat,you will find lots of help on here from some very knowledgeable people.I don't think the creator of that tree has added for some time.Have you managed to get William Allingham's service records,I managed to get them for my great great grandmothers two brothers,both killed in WWI.One didn't have much there but the other had 23 pages.
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Ian Allan on Sunday 12 June 11 06:29 BST (UK)
What do you know about where to obtain service records. Where do you go for? And what should be requested?  My parents have four uncles and one cousin who were killed in WWI. All are Scottish. I have units & numbers for all of them.
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Seoras on Monday 13 June 11 11:03 BST (UK)
Hi Ian I got mine from Ancestry,are you on there?
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Ian Allan on Monday 13 June 11 18:09 BST (UK)
Is "Ancestry" the best site? I tried the 14-day trial of one site and I thought it was terrible. There was a government-run (I think) site with some war service records. I paid something like $5.00 for a service card from them, and it was little more than a card with the guy's name scribbled on it. That was from "the national archives".

Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 13 June 11 19:18 BST (UK)
Only about 30% of WWI service records survive- Ancestry is the place to check for those surviving records.

National Archives website is where you can download medal cards (as far as I know they only cover those who served overseas and all of these survive).
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Seoras on Monday 13 June 11 23:19 BST (UK)
Hi Ian,as aghadowey says they are not all there.I have lots for my great uncle Alexander,yet there is practically nothing for his brother Samuel even though they served in the same regiment and died within months of each other.I'll have another look but I haven't come across anything for William McChesney Allingham,was he from Glasgow too?
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Ian Allan on Monday 13 June 11 23:27 BST (UK)
On the WWI site, it lists his parents as being from 22 Ardenlee Street in Glasgow. Annie and James. He served as a Serjeant with the "King's Own Scottish Borderers", unit is listed as ""A" Coy. 2nd Bn.", with service number 202198. He was killed on Aug. 11, 1917. 22 years old.
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Seoras on Monday 13 June 11 23:41 BST (UK)
I can't find service records Ian but it lists this information.

Name - Allingham,William

Birth place - Glasgow

Date of death - 8 November 1917

Location of death - France and Flanders

Enlistment location - Glasgow

Rank - A/sergeant

Regiment - King's Own Scottish Borderers

Battalion - 2nd battalion

Number - 202198

Type of casualty - killed in action
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Ian Allan on Monday 13 June 11 23:48 BST (UK)
Thanks for posting. I had forgotten about the British styles on the dates (with day, then month), so I had incorrectly noted the death as Aug. 11, rather than Nov. 8. I will give the site a try and see if they have anything on the other four soldiers who were relatives.
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Seoras on Tuesday 14 June 11 00:04 BST (UK)
I am on there now if you want a hand Ian,will need their names though.The only other thing I can see for William is the Medal Index Card,which is all I got for my Samuel,nothing but the name and regiment on it.
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Ian Allan on Tuesday 14 June 11 00:07 BST (UK)
The easy one would be Jimmy Hollway, killed on July 30, 1918 in France. Private with the Gordon Highlanders. 5th Battalion. Service No. S/13205. He is buried in Rouen. He listed as simply "J Hollway" on the Commonwealth War Graves Commission.
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Ian Allan on Tuesday 14 June 11 00:14 BST (UK)
Harder ones will be the three Wright brothers (I think there were 5,000 Wrights killed in the war). Archie Wright (Private, Royal Scots Fusiliers, 8th Bn.) died on Feb. 28, 1917. He is buried in Greece. Archie's number is 28703.  Frederick Wright (able seaman, Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve) died 3 days earlier, on Feb. 25, 1917. His number is Clyde Z / 4122. The third Wright brother (Hugh) died on June 28, 1915. He was buried at sea near Gallipoli. Hugh was a private with the Royal Scots, 5th Battalion, with number 2707. Hugh is of the most interest because I only believe that info is correct; I am not certain. My dad told me the third brother was buried at sea near Gallipoli, and that name fits with the census from 1911, but it could be a different brother. The CWGC info on Hugh doesn't confirm that it's the Hugh from Glasgow who was the son of George and Jane Wright.
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Seoras on Tuesday 14 June 11 00:23 BST (UK)
I will have a go Ian.My great gran married a Wright (Robert),his father was named Hugh,originally from Ireland I think.They had 4 kids but my grandfather came along after Robert had died.I am in touch with one of the grandsons of these first 4 kids,he's in Australia.
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Seoras on Tuesday 14 June 11 00:36 BST (UK)
Ian I have 6 pages on Archie Wright for you,including how and where he died and where he is buried.Drop an email in my Personal Message box and I will send them to you.

George.
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Seoras on Tuesday 14 June 11 01:01 BST (UK)
Ian it has only this on Fred.

Name - Wright,Frederick

Date of Birth - 3rd March 1897

Branch of service - Royal Navy Voluntary Reserve

Cause of Death - died from disease

Official number of port division - Clyed Z./4122

Date of death - 25th February 1917

Ship or unit - Hao Pembroke

Location of grave - Y ground 857

Name and address of cemetery - Craigton cemetery,Ibrox,Glasgow

Relation notified - father,George,79 Paisley Road,West Glasgow


I just got your email,give me a few minutes to load them and they will be with you.

George.
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Ian Allan on Tuesday 14 June 11 01:03 BST (UK)
Thank you. I didn't know his date of birth. Nor did I know that he had died of disease. My dad knew that one of the three brothers died of sickness while on a boat, but didn't know which one.
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Seoras on Tuesday 14 June 11 01:14 BST (UK)
Archie's have been sent Ian,let me know you get them ok.
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Seoras on Tuesday 14 June 11 01:46 BST (UK)
Haven't come across Hugh or Jimmy yet but found 4 more pages on Archie which I have sent on.One gives his birth place and another rather poignant one describes his possessions sent back to his mother.
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Outremer on Monday 04 October 21 15:36 BST (UK)
A total newbie to this site, but when searching for information on James Boyle of Dungloe and Stranorlar (1864-1936) and his wife Rosaline Allingham, I found this thread from some ten years ago.   

Though the thread was so long ago, Pastmagic posted two photos of Rosaline which I would LOVE to know more about!

There also seemed to be a suggestion that there was more information on the family of James Boyle and/or his brother John Edward Boyle on this forum somewhere ...?
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Outremer on Monday 04 October 21 15:58 BST (UK)
And now I see another page of the thread with more Boyle photos ... also posted by Pastmagic and also of great interest!
Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 04 October 21 21:34 BST (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat  :)

.....but when searching for information on James Boyle of Dungloe and Stranorlar (1864-1936) and his wife Rosaline Allingham......


Rosaline M Teresa married James Boyle on 30th August 1899 in St Johns, Clontarf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1899/10390/5782910.pdf

Here's her death in 1959. The informant appears to be her grandson, B A Kelly?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1959/04356/4128565.pdf


KG

Title: Re: Allingham,where?
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 05 October 21 08:25 BST (UK)

1911 census
House 21 in Main Street (Stranorlar, Donegal)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Stranorlar/Main_Street/509828/

Three daughters-

Louise Mary Madeline Boyle born 1900
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1900/01996/1768035.pdf

Mabel Clarissa Catherine Moya Boyle born 1901
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1901/01933/1748065.pdf

Rosaleen Hilda Mariae Boyle born 1903
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1903/01879/1731264.pdf

KG