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Title: Annie Caldwell
Post by: Jeni63 on Monday 20 December 10 23:39 GMT (UK)
Annie Caldwell (Coleraine,Northern Ireland DOB: 1889) married Robert Moffatt in 1916 in Victoria,British Columbia.  Looking for information. 
Title: Re: Annie Caldwell
Post by: susano on Tuesday 21 December 10 00:16 GMT (UK)
I can find a Moffatt family living in Portland, Oregon on the 1930 US Census which could very likely be yours.

Robert Moffatt, age 41, head, married, age 27 at first marriage, born Northern Ireland, both parents born Northern Ireland, immigrated to US in 1927, alien, occupation Janitor of an apartment house.

Annie Moffatt, age 41, wife, married, age 27 at first marriage, born Northern Ireland, both parents born Northern Ireland, immigrated to US in 1928, alien

Ernest R. Moffatt, age 5, son, single, born Canada - English, both parents born Northern Ireland, immigrated to US in 1928, alien.

Annie E. Moffatt, age 13, transcribed as roomer but I think it should be daughter, single, born Canada - English, both parents born Northern Ireland, immigrated to US in 1928, alien   

Plus 3 roomers

If you are interested, I can look up the 1916 BC marriage registration and give you a transcription of the document but I won't be able to do in until the New Year as our local FHS library is closed for the holidays.


Susan
Title: Re: Annie Caldwell
Post by: susano on Tuesday 21 December 10 01:58 GMT (UK)
There was a Robert Moffatt, born July 15, 1889, Gaskel, Ulster, Ireland, who served in the CEF during WW1.  His residence was Victoria, BC, and his wife was Annie.  There are problems with the images at present; however, I've included the link so that you can check the attestation papers (2 pages).

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0au8/

Susan



Title: Re: Annie Caldwell
Post by: Jeni63 on Tuesday 21 December 10 02:04 GMT (UK)
do you think it could be them????  No problems busy time of year - how do you find out this information???  I cant believe you are so quick!!
Title: Re: Annie Caldwell
Post by: susano on Tuesday 21 December 10 03:04 GMT (UK)
I think there is a very good chance this is Annie and her family.  Ages and birth place certainly fit and the children were born in Canada.  I wish I could find a border crossing document but haven't had any luck with that.

Due to Canada's strict privacy laws, the birth records of the children would not be public record unfortunately.

I found the information on this thread and on Margaret Caldwell's thread through Ancestry.

Susan
Title: Re: Annie Caldwell
Post by: cosmac on Tuesday 21 December 10 03:11 GMT (UK)
Following Susano's lead from the 1930 US census in Multnomah County Oregon for the Moffatt's there are 2 deaths that might be the same couple.

Deaths in Multnomah County, Oregon
Robert Moffatt d. 11 July 1964 @ 75, spouse Anna Certificate #10451
Annie Moffat d. 04 D 1953, spouse Robert Certificate #13894

Debbie
Title: Re: Annie Caldwell
Post by: Jeni63 on Tuesday 21 December 10 03:30 GMT (UK)
It could be them - where would I go from here???? 
Title: Re: Annie Caldwell
Post by: susano on Tuesday 21 December 10 03:55 GMT (UK)
There is a death entry for Ernest Robert Moffatt, born February 14, 1925, Other Country (not USA), died November 25, 1959 in San Diego, California.

He is buried in a US Veterans Gravesite at Willamette National Cemetery, 11800 SE MT Scott Boulevard, Portland, Oregon, Section S, Site 2606.  Interment date:  December 5, 1959; Service info:  CSONAR US NAVY

Susan
Title: Re: Annie Caldwell
Post by: Jeni63 on Tuesday 21 December 10 04:33 GMT (UK)
Thank you - it is getting interesting but I was wondering regarding the information getting close to nowadays whether you Privatemessage me???
Title: Re: Annie Caldwell
Post by: susano on Tuesday 21 December 10 05:23 GMT (UK)
Hi

You asked where do you go from here?  In answer, I guess it depends if you want to spend the money to order the death certificates to try to determine if they are your family.  I've included links to the agencies that handle the vital stat records in each state.

http://www.cdph.ca.gov/certlic/birthdeathmar/Pages/default.aspx
http://www.oregon.gov/DHS/ph/chs/order/faqs.shtml

You also asked if you would be contacted by PM with information in current times?  Yes, if any of the researchers turned up information of a sensitive nature or information about living persons, then the Rootschatter would contact you by PM.  We are not permitted to include any information on the boards about living or possibly living people.

Continued good luck with your search and Season's Greetings to you.

Susan




Title: Re: Annie Caldwell
Post by: Jeni63 on Tuesday 21 December 10 06:24 GMT (UK)
thank you so much for all your help - have a safe and happy xmas
Title: Re: Annie Caldwell
Post by: J.J. on Tuesday 21 December 10 16:18 GMT (UK)
The son  was U.S. navy buried Willamette National Cemetery, Portland Oregon.
There are several Moffat buried there, perhaps others are yours as well, if this is your family...
http://files.usgwarchives.net/or/statewide/cemeteries/willamette/mimnaugh-montez.txt

ugh...need to read through several times before I get it I'm afraid, I missed you already had this posted susan...sorry
Title: Re: Annie Caldwell
Post by: Jeni63 on Tuesday 21 December 10 21:06 GMT (UK)
Any information is fantastic - will give me plenty of homework to do - thankyou have a safe xmas
Title: Re: Annie Caldwell
Post by: vbain on Wednesday 22 December 10 15:04 GMT (UK)

Robert Moffatt
Victoria Reg. Number: 1916-09-033339
Annie Cadwell Date: 1916 2 8 (Yr/Mo/Day) Event:
 
  http://search.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/sn-2A5796A/query/Marriages/find-adv%2B%20givennames%3D(robert)%20AND%20surname%3D(moffatt)%20AND%20year%3D(1916)%20%2B%2B%2B%2B

Robert Moffatt 
Victoria Reg. Number:1916-09-033339
Annie Cadwell Date: 1916 2 8 (Yr/Mo/Day) Event:

 
Title: Re: Annie Caldwell
Post by: Jeni63 on Wednesday 22 December 10 21:02 GMT (UK)
THank you for that but do you think that perhaps it is the wrong person we have been looking at as it states Annie Cadwell and Annie Caldwell??? Or could it be a typo ???
Title: Re: Annie Caldwell
Post by: susano on Wednesday 22 December 10 21:17 GMT (UK)
Hi

The link that vbain posted is to the BC marriage that was mentioned in your first post on this thread.

I will look up this registration in the New Year and then we can confirm whatever information is provided.  I suspect it is an error on the BC Archives site.

If you check the pilot family search site for the entry, she is listed as Annie Caldwell, daughter of Robert Caldwell and Nancy Baird.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0avo/

I always use the BC Archives and the Pilot FamilySearch sites together to cross-reference information.  It is not unusual to find errors or variations in spelling and dates as you research so the more cross checks you can do the better.

Susan
Title: Re: Annie Caldwell
Post by: Jeni63 on Wednesday 22 December 10 21:25 GMT (UK)
absolutely fantastic - opened the link and there it was - I am all smiles now - amazing what is out there!!!  dont you think???
Title: Re: Annie Caldwell
Post by: vbain on Thursday 23 December 10 00:14 GMT (UK)
I tried to search Caldwell, and drew a blank.
Then I searched Robert Moffatt 2 Aud. 1916
It had Robert and  Ann Cadwell
I think it is likely a typo, if the date is right. Cadwell and CAldwell are not common names.
Title: Re: Annie Caldwell
Post by: Jeni63 on Thursday 23 December 10 00:49 GMT (UK)
Thank you for that - muchly appreciated - will be having fun in the next couple of months doing the research. 
Title: Re: Annie Caldwell
Post by: Gabrielli on Friday 20 March 15 02:32 GMT (UK)
Jeni, did you have any success on the Annie Caldwell search?
Title: Re: Annie Caldwell
Post by: J.J. on Friday 20 March 15 02:50 GMT (UK)
1921 census Victoria - 2723 Graham St http://search.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=8991
Robert Moffatt   32  abt 1889 Ireland/ both parents b. ireland occ:Carpenter
Anna Moffatt   32 abt 1889 Ireland/ both parents b. ireland
Eleanor Moffatt   4
Esther Neron   53 - domestic

and here's the new link to the CEF signups hit #1 & enlarge and same for #2 for description...For others looking in the full papers will one day be digitized & online...or can be sent for now for a fee....
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/first-world-war-1914-1918-cef/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=183082

Not sure is this is his WW2 draft - info is close https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVJT-RYNM
Title: Re: Annie Caldwell
Post by: J.J. on Friday 20 March 15 03:33 GMT (UK)
ah, so Annie E Moffatt is probably  "ELEANORE" from the 1921 census!!!!
Title: Re: Annie Caldwell
Post by: Gabrielli on Friday 20 March 15 03:43 GMT (UK)
ah, so Annie E Moffatt is probably  "ELEANORE" from the 1921 census!!!!

JJ, yes, it's a funny story.  During the family's immigration (emigration?) from Canada to the US, the government official handling the documents stuck Anne's first name in the middle name box, and put her middle name as the first name.  She ended up keeping it that was, and was Eleanor from then on.
Title: Re: Annie Caldwell
Post by: J.J. on Friday 20 March 15 03:56 GMT (UK)
Oh,   I see now there was another query on them and it has this and more
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=685017.0

adding: She was called Eleanore by her parents in Canada's census, so I'd bet to avoid confusion, although forenamed after her mother, she was called Eleanor ...
Title: Re: Annie Caldwell
Post by: Gabrielli on Friday 20 March 15 04:00 GMT (UK)
JJ, true, but this one was started first, so I don't feel bad about commenting here.   :)
Title: Re: Annie Caldwell
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 20 March 15 08:44 GMT (UK)
Have just posted a reply on the other thread about the families of Robert Moffatt & Annie Caldwell-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=685017.msg5598057#msg5598057