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Title: Marriage lookup?
Post by: Becky84 on Friday 31 December 10 20:05 GMT (UK)
Hi,
 Would it be possible for someone to see if there is a marriage in Scotland for a James Craig born c1830 ireland (shoemaker/grocer) and Mary bradley born c1832 ireland?, they had there first child in c1855 in scotland so the marriage will be around that time.

Thanks
Becky
Title: Re: Marriage lookup?
Post by: Little Nell on Friday 31 December 10 22:09 GMT (UK)
Have you already tried the IGI and ScotlandsPeople?  The birth certificate of any child born 1855 or later will give the date and place of marriage as reported to the registrar.  Again these are viewable on ScotlandsPeople for a small fee.

Nell
Title: Re: Marriage lookup?
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 31 December 10 22:28 GMT (UK)
There's also a thread on Ireland-General board where I've suggested checking Scotland's People for birth certificates to get date and place of marriage-
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,504102.msg3608595.html
Title: Re: Marriage lookup?
Post by: sancti on Saturday 01 January 11 01:12 GMT (UK)
Can't see a suitable match on 1861 census
Title: Re: Marriage lookup?
Post by: Becky84 on Saturday 01 January 11 12:24 GMT (UK)
Ok thanks  ill check that out then :)


They are on the 1871 census  (they are on 1891 census/1881 census james is a greengrocer, he dies 1899):

James craig age 40 born c1831 shoemaker from ireland
Mary craig (bradley) age 35 from Kerry ireland
john craig son age 16 pupil teacher from scotland
mary a craig dau age 13 scholar from berwick upon tweed
william craig son age 11scholar  berwick upon tweed
Robert craig son age 9 scholar berwick upon tweed
margaret craig dau age 7 scholar berwick upon tweed
Elizabeth craig dau age 5 scholar berwick upon tweed


Title: Re: Marriage lookup?
Post by: tidybooks on Saturday 01 January 11 22:38 GMT (UK)
Hi shancai,

Will the 1861 census not be the English one as they were in Berwick Upon Tweed, which was in Scotland then changed again, worth checking the English 1861 census.

Tom
Title: Re: Marriage lookup?
Post by: tidybooks on Saturday 01 January 11 22:46 GMT (UK)
Hi Shancai,

Found them at 231 Walkergate Lane, Berwick Upon Tweed, Nothumberland, England, 1861 census

James Craig    30 Ireland Shoemaker
Mary Craig    24 Ireland
John Craig    6 Scotland
Mary A Craig    3 Berwick
William Craig    1 Berwick

Tom
Title: Re: Marriage lookup?
Post by: andycand on Sunday 02 January 11 00:32 GMT (UK)
Hi

FamilysearchIGI has a birth transcribed from the Scottish Statutory Registers as follows.

John CRAIG born 2nd January 1855, Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland. father James CRAIG, mother Mary BROADLY (sic)

Given the similarity of the mothers surname which could easily be a transcription error it would be well worth while downloading the image from Scotlandspeople. This should give you date and place of parents marriage.

Andy
Title: Re: Marriage lookup?
Post by: Becky84 on Sunday 02 January 11 20:43 GMT (UK)
Thanks ill check it out on there, its definatly them ive just found john on another census and says he was born in edinburgh.
Title: Re: Marriage lookup?
Post by: Becky84 on Sunday 02 January 11 22:02 GMT (UK)
It says their marriage was may 1854 in berwick how would i find a record of that?

Title: Re: Marriage lookup?
Post by: sancti on Sunday 02 January 11 22:16 GMT (UK)
Try posting for info on the English board
Title: Re: Marriage lookup?
Post by: Becky84 on Sunday 02 January 11 22:24 GMT (UK)
Ok thanks
Title: Re: Marriage lookup?
Post by: andycand on Sunday 02 January 11 22:52 GMT (UK)
Hi

Link to new topic opened in England

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=504572.new

Andy
Title: Re: Marriage lookup?
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 02 January 11 22:54 GMT (UK)
The 1861 shows the first child was born in Scotland and there is no marriage on freebmd in Northumberland

As both James and Mary were born in Ireland - is it possible they may have married there before leaving Ireland?
Title: Re: Marriage lookup?
Post by: Forfarian on Saturday 08 January 11 16:08 GMT (UK)
The 1861 shows the first child was born in Scotland and there is no marriage on freebmd in Northumberland

As both James and Mary were born in Ireland - is it possible they may have married there before leaving Ireland?

Get the 1855 birth certificate from SP. It will tell you when and where they were married, and a lot more besides.
Title: Re: Marriage lookup?
Post by: Becky84 on Sunday 09 January 11 13:01 GMT (UK)
I payed for credits on scots people for the record, it says they where married in berwick may 1854 but i cant find that marriage anywhere. So looks like it was possibly made up.
Title: Re: Marriage lookup?
Post by: Ellenc on Friday 09 April 21 04:13 BST (UK)
John's birth certificate says: John Craig born 2nd. January 1855 Bakehouse Close Edinburgh. Father James Craig shoemaker,  24yrs born Ireland. and Mary Broadley 19yrs. born Ireland. Married Berwick May 1854.
I haven't found a marriage record anywhere in Ireland, Scotland or England.
To mention Berwick, there must have been some family connection with Berwick, the next child Mary Ann was born in Berwick in 1857 and they settled there.
I am descended from James b. 1868 Berwick. He is John's younger brother. His birth certificate names Mary as Bradley not Broadley.