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Title: MI Abbey St. Bathans
Post by: clazey on Sunday 02 January 11 00:44 GMT (UK)
Does someone have access who could look up Glazie?  I am quite sure the spelling should be Clazie.  Thank you.

sharon
Title: Re: MI Abbey St. Bathans
Post by: Beckey on Sunday 02 January 11 10:33 GMT (UK)
There are no Glazie or Clazie in the pre 1855 M.I.'s.
Title: Re: MI Abbey St. Bathans
Post by: clazey on Sunday 02 January 11 15:43 GMT (UK)
Thank you and now I am confused.  I found the updated list from The borders Family History society website.  For the Glazie notation this seems to have a cd associated with it.  Is this list outdated?

sharon
Title: Re: MI Abbey St. Bathans
Post by: Beckey on Monday 03 January 11 09:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Sharon,

Sorry, can't help you there perhaps they have done an up to date M.I.
Title: Re: MI Abbey St. Bathans
Post by: epfedin on Tuesday 04 January 11 20:22 GMT (UK)
Sharon

I recorded the MI for the Abbey and it was published on cd by the Borders FHS last year.  There is an Agnes Glazie buried there.

Elma
Title: Re: MI Abbey St. Bathans
Post by: clazey on Wednesday 05 January 11 22:53 GMT (UK)
Thank you so very much.  I will be nailing that one down as soon as I can!

sharon
Title: Re: MI Abbey St. Bathans
Post by: MAMBYS on Friday 28 September 12 23:47 BST (UK)
Hi Sharon

I have Clazies in two sides of my family

GEORGE CLAZY - m- (1751-COLDSTREAM )-AGNES MIDDLEMISS

                        they had 3 sons born Hutton
 WILLIAM 1573                          JOHN 1755                   JAMES1760
         M
ISABEL THOMSON
           I
       daughter
AGNES CLAZY1803 born Edrom  -M - GEORGE AITCHISON born Oldhamstocks  my Grt-Grt- Grandfather

also my other Grandfather's brother PETER MACK -M -(1886-ABBEY ST BATHANS) -ISABELLA CLAZIE

I hope this is of some help to you

Margaret

Title: Re: MI Abbey St. Bathans
Post by: heiserca on Saturday 06 October 12 01:41 BST (UK)
Margaret/Mamby might be interested to know that the spelling of the Clazie name gets more interesting.  The husband of Agnes Middlemist is shown in some early records as "George Claisye". 

George & Agnes had 7 children, including 2 named William and 2 named James. (When an infant died, a later child was often given the same name, just to confuse us.)  I am descended from their 7th child, James Clezie, who was born at Edrington mill, christened 26 October 1766 at Mordington.  He later married Helen Kerr / Carr, in 1786, and we are puzzling over exactly where she came from.  Care to join the hunt for her origin?

Title: Re: MI Abbey St. Bathans
Post by: aitchscot on Saturday 06 October 12 07:33 BST (UK)
George Aitchison & Agnes Clazie are buried immidiately outside the Kirk door at Abbey St. Bathan.
Hi Sharon

I have Clazies in two sides of my family

GEORGE CLAZY - m- (1751-COLDSTREAM )-AGNES MIDDLEMISS

                        they had 3 sons born Hutton
 WILLIAM 1573                          JOHN 1755                   JAMES1760
         M
ISABEL THOMSON
           I
       daughter
AGNES CLAZY1803 born Edrom  -M - GEORGE AITCHISON born Oldhamstocks  my Grt-Grt- Grandfather

also my other Grandfather's brother PETER MACK -M -(1886-ABBEY ST BATHANS) -ISABELLA CLAZIE

I hope this is of some help to you

Margaret


Title: Re: MI Abbey St. Bathans
Post by: MAMBYS on Saturday 06 October 12 23:14 BST (UK)
Hi Heiserca

Thanks for the info

re Helen Kerr she did marry the 2nd James Clazie 1786 at Hutton
 
She was born Coldstream 03/04/1763 and died  Chirnside 15/04/1826 .

 They had 10 children

Her parents were James Kerr 1725-1812 Berwickshire and Lucy Pitt 1725-1790


Regards
Margaret
Title: Re: MI Abbey St. Bathans
Post by: heiserca on Sunday 07 October 12 01:27 BST (UK)
Thanks, Margaret.  The Helen Kerr born at Coldstream is one possibility among many, but what proof have you found that she is the correct Helen, who married James Clazie/Clezie?  Several knowledgeable researchers have considered her but are not convinced.

One reason to doubt the dentification is the mother you mentioned, Lucy Pitt.  The Clazie family closely followed the traditional naming pattern:

- 1st son after father's father; 1st daughter after mother's mother
- 2nd son after mother's father; 2nd daughter after father's mother
- 3rd son after father; 3rd daughter after mother

In all the Clazie/Clezie/Clazey/Clazy/Clezy generations that are known, there isn't one Lucy or a Pitt.  Therefore, serious doubt that Lucy Pitt's daughter was our ancestor.  Not impossible... but if there is any evidence, please share it.








Title: Re: MI Abbey St. Bathans
Post by: clazey on Sunday 07 October 12 01:58 BST (UK)
Wow....I had narrowed down the choices for Helen to three....and this evening I looked at the certificate for James Ker, Esq. with the baptism of a daughter....and for some reason, I thought it just might be her but....there was also a William married to Margaret Burn that was also a possibility.... thank you!

sharon
Title: Re: MI Abbey St. Bathans
Post by: clazey on Sunday 07 October 12 02:28 BST (UK)
James Ker's parents....would that by chance have been John Ker and Alison Spence...they had a son James born in 1720....

sharon