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I have John Cocking b. 1817 North Wheatley m. 1850 to Martha ? b. 1820 North Scarle. So far I've traced seven children, all born in Gainsborough: Ann b.1845, John b. 1847, Robert 1849 b. 1849, George b. 1851, Henry b. 1853, James b. 1855 and Tom b. 1857. Henry joined the Royal Artillery and is my drect ancestor. Has anyone any information on the other children and their descendents or the parents?
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Hi,,,in case you dont have it,,,Henrys service record is available at the findmypast website ;)
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Marriages Sep 1842
BARKER Martha Gainsbro 14 395
COCKING John Gainsbro 14 395
Her bap http://tinyurl.com/32tnuv9
The parents of this John COCKING http://tinyurl.com/2wy4glj seem to have had some later children at North Wheatley, so perhaps John thought it was the place he was born.
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Thanks very much for the info.. I have copy of Henry's service record; he was stationed at Gibraltar, Bermuda, Halifax Nova Scotia, St Helena and Plymouth. My grandmother was born on Drake's Island in Plymouth Sound - one of the Palmerston Forts. As regards John's birthplace, North Wheatley is listed in the Mormon's online 1881 census where he is shown as a licensed victualler and farmer of 36 acres. I've come across North Wheatley, Beckingham, Walkeringham, Gringley on the Hill, Saundby and Gainsborough in connection with the Cockings so I assume they are all branches of the same family.
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I have John Cocking b. 1817 North Wheatley m. 1850 to Martha ? b. 1820 North Scarle. So far I've traced seven children, all born in Gainsborough: Ann b.1845, John b. 1847, Robert 1849 b. 1849, George b. 1851, Henry b. 1853, James b. 1855 and Tom b. 1857. Henry joined the Royal Artillery and is my drect ancestor. Has anyone any information on the other children and their descendents or the parents?
I have an Elizabeth Cocking (?- 1783) marrying Richard Undy (1697-1768)at West Retford, Notts in 1737, if this any help. I would be interested in any info about this Elizabeth.
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possible sighting of john cocking born 1847
1861
RG9/2407/75/6
george newbold age 53. b. beckingham,notts. occ. farmer of 65 acres. head(unm)
ann wainwright age 68. b. ditto. sister.(wid)
francis newbold age 17. b. ditto. occ. farm servant. nephew
elizabeth newbold age 14. b. ditto. occ. dairymaid. neice
john cocking age 14. b. gainsborough. occ farm servant(plough boy)
living at;low street,beckingham,notts
reg.dist; gainsborough
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1871
RG10/3443/75/1
john cocking age 24. b. gainsborough. occ. railway platelayer. head
mary age 21. b. willoughby,lincs. wife
henry age 3. b. northorpe,lincs. son
martha age 3mnths. b. beckingham. daughter
living at;beckingham,notts
seeing as their first female child is named martha(probably after johns mother) think there is a very good chance this is the right john cocking
possible marriage
john cocking
y.o.r. 1867
qtr;apr/may/jun
dist; gainsborough
vol; 7a
page; 1519
on the same page mary jollands
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1881
RG11/4695/7/7
john cocking age 34. b. gainsborough. occ. foreman platelayer. head
mary age 31. b. willoughton,lincs. wife
henry age 13. b. northorpe. son
martha age 10. b. beckingham. daughter
thomas age 6. b. finningley,notts. son
robert age 2. b. ditto. son
living at;croft road gatehouse,finningley,notts
reg.dist;doncaster
sub reg dist; bawtrey
definite naming pattern here
children seem to be named after johns siblings
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1891
RG12/2634/142/32
john cocking age 44. b. gainsborough. occ. woodman. head
mary age 41. b. willoughton. wife
thomas age 16. b. bawtrey. occ; iron bolt maker(labourer). son
john age 5. b. beckingham. son
living at;7,wrights court,gainsborough,lincs
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1901
RG13/3113/38/15
john cocking age 54. b. gainsborough. occ. woodman. head
mary age 52. b. northorpe. wife
john age 15. b. beckingham. occ. house painters apprentice. son
living at;88,church street,gainsborough,lincs
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possible death
name; john cocking
y.o.r. 1922
qtr;jan/feb/mar
dist; gainsborough
vol; 7a
page; 1002
age at death; 74
est birth year; 1848
also possible death of wife mary
name; mary cocking
y.o.r. 1927
qtr; jan/feb/mar
dist; gainsborough
vol; 7a
page; 1098
age at death; 77
est birth year; 1850
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clinkboy: I have not traced that far back as yet, however when I do I'll be in touch.
wozzle: thanks for the info on John and family. I agree, the naming of the children strongly suggests the relationship.
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possibly tom
1881
RG11/4695/9/11
george gregory age 61. b. finningley. occ. shoemaker. head
maria age 61. b. ditto. wife
hannah.m. age 22. b. ditto. daughter(unm)
john west age 49. b. walkeringham,notts. occ. bricklayer. lodger(wid)
tom cocking age 23. b. gainsborough. occ. joiner. lodger(unm)
living at;finningley,notts
reg.dist; doncaster
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1901
RG13/3115/85/15
tom cocking age 41. b. gainsborough. occ. joiner. head
phoebe age 39. b. earby alford,lincs. wife
ralph age 16. b. gainsborough. son
frank age 14. b. ditto. son
daisy age 7. b. beckingham,notts. daughter
tom age 5. b. ditto. son
fred age 2. b. gainsborough. son
living at;gainsborough,lincs
so going by the age of the eldest son tom/phoebe must have married after the census of 1881 and before 1885 approx.
will look for them in 1891
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here is a bit of luck here is toms father with their son
1891
RG12/2633/76/17
john cocking age 74. b. gringley,notts. occ. licensed victualler. head(wid)
thomas age 33. b. gainsborough. occ. joiner. son(mar)
phoebe age 29. b. easby,lincs. daughter in law
ralph age 6. b. gainsborough. grandson
frank.c. age 4. b. ditto. grandson
ann smithson age 15. b. woodsetts,notts. occ. general domestic servant.
joffre.w.troop age 79 or 29. b. beckingham. occ agr.lab.(mar)
living at;high street,beckingham,notts
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mrriage
thomas cocking/phoebe bocock
y.o.r. 1881
qtr; oct/nov/dec
dist; gainsborough
vol; 7a
page; 1368
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probable death of toms wife
name; phoebe cocking
y.o.r. 1904
qtr;apr/may/jun
dist; gainsborough
vol; 7a
page; 415
age at death; 42
est birth year; 1862
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probable death of tom
name; tom cocking
y.o.r. 1918
qtr; oct/nov/dec
dist; gainsborough
vol; 7a
page; 1694
age at death; 61
est birth year; 1857
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do you have the censuses when the children are living at home with parents john/martha
if not i will post them here
in the meantime here is robert after he has left home
1871
RG10/4684/44/34
james haywood age 43. b. sheffield. occ. mason bricklayer. head
sarah haywood age 43. b. boughton,notts. wife
anne haywood age 68. b. sheffield. mother
henry edward march age 32. b. aylsham,norfolk. occ. coachsmith. lodger
robert cocking age 21. b. gainsborough. occ. plumber and gas fitter. lodger(unm)
alfred.g.tebbutts age 21. b. heaford,lincs. occ. plumber and gasfitter. lodger
samuel baker age 31. b. horsford,norfolk. occ. coach ----?. lodger
living at;46,howard street,st.paul,sheffield,yorkshire
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i cannot find robert on 1881 census or any census after 1871
i think this might be his death
in 1871 he is in sheffield
ecclesall bierlow is near there
death index
name; robert cocking
y.o.r. 1879
qtr; apr/may/jun
dist; ecclesall bierlow
vol; 9c
page; 190
age at death; 29
est birth year; 1850
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1881
RG11/3295/133/24
james cocking age 25. b. gainsborough. occ. joiner. head
ann age 24 . b. baslow,derbyshire. wife
living at;68,waterworks street,gainsborough,lincs
marriage
james cocking/ann sheldon
y.o.r. 1880
qtr;jul/aug/sept
dist; ecclesall bierlow,derbyshire,yorkshire west riding
vol;9c
page; 303
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1891
RG12/3314/114/11
james cocking age 35. b. gainsborough. occ. joiner(wood). head
ann age 34. b. baslow. wife
albert edward age 8. b. manchester. son
maude age 6. b. oldham. daughter
emma age 3. b. ditto. daughter
james barker cocking age 1. b. oldham. son
living at;6,gallant street,oldham,lancs
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1901
RG13/3811/100/53
james cocking age 45. b. gainsborough. occ. joiner/carpanter. head
annie age 44. b. baslow. wife
albert age 18. b. manchester. occ. grocers assistant. son
maude age 16. b. oldham. occ. tailoress. daughter
emma age 13. b. ditto. occ. printers assistant. daughter
harry age 9. b. ditto. son
geoffrey age 6. b. ditto. son
living at;oldham,lancs
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1891
RG12/3314/114/11
james cocking age 35. b. gainsborough. occ. joiner(wood). head
ann age 34. b. baslow. wife
albert edward age 8. b. manchester. son
maude age 6. b. oldham. daughter
emma age 3. b. ditto. daughter
james barker cocking age 1. b. oldham. son
living at;6,gallant street,oldham,lancs
the son james barker cocking dies in the 4th qtr 1891 aged 2
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probable death of james
name; james cocking
y.o.r. 1922
qtr;oct/nov/dec
dist; oldham
vol; 8d
page; 650
age at death;67
est birth year; 1855
cannot find a death for his wife ann
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ann the daughter of john/martha is with the family in 1851 and 1861 in gainsborough reg dist she is not there in 1871
there is a marriage which could be her
name; ann.e. cocking
y.o.r. 1866
qtr; jan/feb/mar
dist; gainsborough
vol; 7a
page; 845
on the same page; charles walker
this is them in 1871 it seems to tally up
1871
RG10/3450/12/18
charles walker age 31. b. wheatley,notts. occ. agr.lab. head
ann.e. age 25. b. gainsborough. wife
thomas.h. age 4. b. ditto. son
george age 10mnth. b. gringley,notts. son
living at;gringley on the hill,notts
reg.dist; east retford
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1881
RG11/4843/146/10
charles walker age 40. b. wheatley. occ. engine driver(standing). head
ann age 34. b. gainsborough. wife
thomas age 14. b. lincoln. son
george age 11. b. nottinghamshire. son
charles age 8. b. ditto. son
charlot age 5. b. yorkshire. daughter
alice age 1. b. ditto. daughter
living at;fidlers street,wilton in guisborough,yorkshire
reg.dist; guisborough
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1891
RG12/4001/114/12
charles walker age 50. b. wheatley. occ. thrashing engine driver. head
annie age 45. b. gainsborough. wife
george age 20. b. gringley,notts. occ. agr.lab. son(unm)
alice age 11. b. lazenby,yorkshire. daughter
harry age 9. b. ditto. son
living at;fidlers street, lazenby,wilton,yorkshire
reg.dist; guisborough
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1901
RG13/4569/88/24
charles walker age 61, b, wheatley. occ. engine driver(road roller). head
annie.e. age 55. b. gainsborough. wife
charles.e. age 28. b. gringley on the hill. occ. ironstone quarry man. son(unm)
henry age 19. b. lazenby,yorkshire. occ. platelayer at ironworks. son(unm)
living at;9a,chapel street,wilton,marske,yorkshire
reg.dist; guisborough
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possible death of husband of ann cocking
name; charles walker
y.o.r. 1916
qtr; jul/aug/sept
dist; guisborough
vol; 9d
page; 534
age at death; 77
est birth year; 1839
probable death of ann
name; ann.e.walker
y.o.r. 1928
qtr; jan/feb/mar
dist; guisborough
vol; 9d
page; 644
age at death; 82
est birth year; 1846
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just george cocking born c 1851 to do
will continue on later today or tomorrow
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wozzle: thanks again! I believe I've traced the marriage of Tom and Phoebe to December 1881 in Gainsborough, Phoebe was a Bocock and her parents were John and Susannah. I've found four other siblings: Kate, Eva, Luther & Ettie. Susannah was a Dunkley from Old Bolingbroke.
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marriage index
name; george cocking
y.o.r. 1874
qtr; apr/may/jun
dist; manchester
vol; 8d
page; 173
on the same isabel/isabella morris
1881
RG11/3953/120/28
george.b.cocking age 29. b. gainsborough. occ. staircase hand(carpenter). head
isabel age 30. b. wakefield. wife
mabel.l. age 2. b. manchester. daughter
george.b. age 10mnths/weeks. b. ditto. son
eliza morris age 15. b. blackpool. sister in law
george parkinson age 25. b. whittingham. occ. staircase hand(carpenter).lodger
george myerscough age 22. b. lancashire. occ. staircase hand(carpenter). lodger
living at;96,trafalgar street,broughton in salford,lancashire
reg.dist;salford
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1871
RG10/3452/55/12
william pearce age 63. b. south leverton,notts. occ. carpenter employing 1 man/1 boy. head
sarah age 63. b. betton,lincs. wife
george cocking age 19. b. beckingham. occ. apprentice.
elizabeth knight age 15. b. ranby,notts. occ. domestic servant
living at;cross street,sturton,notts
reg.dist; east retford
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1891
RG12/3035/53/5
george.b.cocking age 39. b. gainsborough. occ. joiner and cabinet maker. head
isabel age 40. b. wakefield. wife
mabel.l. age 12. b. manchester. daughter
george.b. age 10. b. ditto. son
william.w.sunderland age 54. b. ashton under lyme. occ. yarn merchant. visitor
annie sunderland age 38. b. manchester. visitor
harold.p.young age 34. b. bury. occ. retired solicitor. visitor
julia young age 28. b. manchester. visitor
edward.c.young age 8. b. ditto. visitor
geoffrey young age 6. b. ditto. visitor
mabel graves age 20. b. northolt,norfolk. occ. governess. visitor
sarah hughes age 30. b. flintshire. occ. general servant.
emily woods age 21. b. burslem. occ. general servant
living at;3,knowsley road,holy trinity,north meols,lancs
reg.dist;ormskirk
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1901
RG13/3537/98/52
george.b.cocking age 49. b. gainsborough. occ. cabinet maker. head
isabel age 50. b. wakefield. wife
mabel.l. age 22. b. manchester. daughter(unm)
george.b. age 20. b. ditto. occ. cabinet salesman. son(unm)
ethel hutchinson age 21. b. goole,lancs. visitor(unm)
living at;24,bath street,southport,lancs
reg.dist, ormskirk
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if you have a look at reply 21
james and ann cocking have a son james barker cocking
the george.b.cocking son of george and isabel his middle name is barker
he marries in 1905 in ormskirk reg dist to either jane caldwell or emily may fleet
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death index
name; george.b.cocking
y.o.r. 1935
qtr;apr/may/jun
dist; southport
vol; 8b
page; 847
age at death; 83
est birth year; 1852
think this is the death of george/isabel's son
name; george.b.cocking
y.o.r. 1947
qtr;oct/nov/dec
dist; southport
vol;10f
page; 563
age at death; 67
est birth year; 1880
probable death of george's wife isabel
name; isabel cocking
y.o.r. 1919
qtr;jan/feb/mar
dist; ormskirk
vol; 8b
page; 1742
age at death; 68
est birth year; 1851
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that is all of the children of john/martha cocking
if you want me to try and follow any of the childrens children
then just tell me which ones and i will try and see what i can find out
mick
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Wozzle, thanks once again - a mine of information. I believe I have found Robert Cocking's marriage in Sep 1872 in Gainsborough but I have no idea who to. I'll give going down the individual lines of the family a miss at present as there are just too many of them. I see in CuriousFox there is an enquiry concerning "my" Henry Cocking but it is old and the reply email address is now dead. Have you come across it in the past?
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Wozzle, thanks once again - a mine of information. I believe I have found Robert Cocking's marriage in Sep 1872 in Gainsborough but I have no idea who to.
This one?
Marriages Sep 1872
COCKING Robert Gainsbro' 7a 1043
MORRIS Gertrude Gainsbro' 7a 1043
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And once again, thanks very much. This stands a very good chance of being the marriage. The only problem with all this information is the cost of verifying relationships with birth/marriage/death certificates, etc.. Looks like I may have to save up!
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Hi,
The Cocking family in Beckingham at the Crown Inn,
1861 Census lists John and Martha Cocking, also included in the family is Emma dau aged 2 born Beckingham. John is still there in 1891 as a Wdr, on 1861 states brn Beckingham, 1891 brn Gringley, he was married at Beckingham in 1842 to Martha Barker of Beckingham by banns.
No bapt in Beckingham PR's for John 1817c
I have a copy of a pencil drawing of the Old Crown Inn, Beckingham 1894 by H
Bocock
Other Cocking marriages from the banns register of Beckingham All Saints Church.
Ann Elizabeth Cocking to Charles Walker 1866
Robert Cocking bach of the parish of Sheffield to Gertrude Morris of Beckingham Aug 1872
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Thanks Louthlass; I believe Phoebe Bocock married John's son Thomas in 1881 so that is the Bocock connection. Could you scan and email a copy of the drawing please?
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This dwelling was demolished and another Crown Inn built, which is now a private dwelling.This is on the Old Ramper Road Beckingham.
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Louthlass: thanks for the pic.. I've traced a couple of publicans as distant relatives in other parts of my family, perhaps I should start my own brewery.
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John, who was my great great grandfather was born in Walkeringham Nottinghamshire in 1817 to Robert and Anne( Anne Cobb from Laneham). Previously they had been farming at Heapham, near Gainsborough for Joseph Cocking(Uncle) . When Joseph died they moved to Walkeringham. They had two children at Heapham, Sarah and Harriett. Robert and Anne moved back to North Wheatley were they had other children.Their son John did marry Martha Barker and they moved to Gainsborough were they had a beer House on Spittle Terrace The building is still there complete with the old sign of the beer house. They had some children in Gainsborough. They moved to Beckingham were they took the licence of the Crown Inn, which had previously been run by Martha,s father.The remaining children were born in Beckingham. Their son John was my great grandfather.
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hi, as a member of the Yorkshire branch of the cockings would like to add my husband is the great great grandson of John Cocking(1817)and Martha Barker(1820) found your page very interesting especially the drawings of the crown would love to hear from any relatives out there thanks Mary
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hi nigel my husband Brian Cocking is also a gt gt grandson of John and Martha cocking we live in south Yorkshire. gt granddad is also John cocking granddad is Henry cocking and his father was john T Cocking regards Mary cocking x