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Title: Mary HURST
Post by: thelly on Monday 10 January 11 09:25 GMT (UK)
Hi all,
Do hope someone can help me, I'm looking for information about my g-g-g-grandmother, Mary Hurst, she was from Oldham, Lancashire UK, born approximately 1780 went to Tasmania on the 'Mellish' in 1830 with six of her children, her eldest son, James was convicted, for burglary, along with his father, Richard at Lancaster Court in 1827, they were both sentenced to death, which was commuted to transportation to Tasmania for life, they arrived in the colonies on the convict ship 'Woodford' in 1828.   Richard was eventually granted permission to have Mary and the children join him in Tasmania.  I don't know anything else about Mary, not her maiden name, I know that both she and Richard lived until their 90s, from some records I have been able to get they were given permission to marry in 1928 before Richard left UK.
Many thanks
Thelly
Title: Re: Mary HURST
Post by: mrwilson on Monday 10 January 11 13:24 GMT (UK)
hi,
    The Tassie Archives are a good place to start...Use this search and others on the left of the web page....
http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=91

A Mary Hurst arrived on the ship 'Guilford' in 1830 with 4 kids.

Might be your Mary and Richard in the 1842 census.. 7 in the household.

http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=10

mrwilson

Title: Re: Mary HURST
Post by: Dundee on Monday 10 January 11 15:57 GMT (UK)
Hi Thelly,

Unfortunately none of the early Tas records would give you Mary's maiden surname.  I know of convicts in Newgate prison in London being taken across the road to St Sepulchre's to marry, so perhaps working on the same theory you might check the church records around the area of Lancaster prison.  Perhaps if you post a query on the Lancashire board someone who knows the area might be able to look for a marriage for you.  I don't see anything obvious on FamilySearch.

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Mary HURST
Post by: mrwilson on Tuesday 11 January 11 05:41 GMT (UK)
Hi again,
               A bit of a land squabble in the Supreme Court, Mary, Richard and James all mentioned.
Daughters Sarah Clarke and Mary Davies also mentioned.

The Mercury, Wednesday 13 July 1881
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0b7t/


Richards death notices,
Mercury, Saturday 16 September 1865
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0b7u/
another .. 23 September
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0b7v/

There's a Mary Ann Hurst (nee Stevenson) buried at Wesleyan Burial Ground , Hill Street, Hobart, died 1849 at 60 yrs old.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0b7w/

mrwilson
Title: Re: Mary HURST
Post by: thelly on Tuesday 11 January 11 09:10 GMT (UK)
Hi Mr Wilson,
Th land squabble in the Supreme Court that you mention, is that in the Trove newspapers?
My Mary died aged 90 years in Hobart, how do you all find out all this wonderful information?

Thanks very much, I will try and find out more abut the squabble.
Thelly
Title: Re: Mary HURST
Post by: thelly on Tuesday 11 January 11 09:13 GMT (UK)
Hi Dundee,
Thanks for the information about Mary, I think her maiden name would have been in England, but I don't know enough about her.
Regards,
Thelly
Title: Re: Mary HURST
Post by: mrwilson on Tuesday 11 January 11 10:06 GMT (UK)
The land squabble in the Supreme Court that you mention, is that in the Trove newspapers?
My Mary died aged 90 years in Hobart, how do you all find out all this wonderful information?

I did find out about the squabble through Trove.. just varied search parameters.

Are your certain Mary died at 90? In the 1881 court case it states "by her will" in 1851 and later "died many years since" . Do you have a birth year?

The grave could be worth checking on, as many a time age/dates/names have been wrongly transcribed.
Title: Re: Mary HURST
Post by: Dundee on Wednesday 12 January 11 12:51 GMT (UK)
A possible death:

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...and death notice:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0b8r/

You have to wonder in what context  her father's name is entered on the death reg. - very unusual for that time period.

Thelly, I can't see a death reg. for a 90 year old Mary HURST - what year was it?

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Mary HURST
Post by: Aussie1947 on Wednesday 12 January 11 13:21 GMT (UK)
Hi,

From the Hobart Town Gazette 19th December 1861 under CITY OF HOBART AND THE SUBURBS THEREOF
on page 1998 for Wellington Street a Mary Hurst was the owner and occupier of a house and shop with an annual value of 16 pounds.

There was a convict Mary Anne Hurst off the Dianna who got her Certificate of Freedom in December 1840.

Gerry
Title: Re: Mary HURST
Post by: mrwilson on Wednesday 12 January 11 22:13 GMT (UK)
Found reference to Mary Hurst on the ship Mellish, one of fourteen free woman.

Arrived in Hobart, 22 September 1830

"Fourteen wives, of prisoners in the colony, ..............., Mrs. Mary Hurst, 

http://www.heavenandhelltogether.com/index.php?q=node/50


The 'Guilford' Mary Hurst (nee Keep) wasn't Richards wife, husband William, had 8 kids and b 1792, d 1866.
http://www.familiesunearthed.com/mason/hurst/william.htm
Title: Re: Mary HURST
Post by: Dundee on Wednesday 12 January 11 23:21 GMT (UK)
Hi all,
Do hope someone can help me, I'm looking for information about my g-g-g-grandmother, Mary Hurst, she was from Oldham, Lancashire UK, born approximately 1780 went to Tasmania on the 'Mellish' in 1830 with six of her children
Thelly

Thelly already has Mary and the childen arriving on the Mellish in 1830; Mary, Sarah, 18, Mary, 15, Elizabeth, 12, Richard, 9, Jane, 7, Benjamin, 6 (CUS30/1/1 P21)

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Mary HURST
Post by: mrwilson on Thursday 13 January 11 00:12 GMT (UK)
Thelly already has Mary and the childen arriving on the Mellish in 1830; Mary, Sarah, 18, Mary, 15, Elizabeth, 12, Richard, 9, Jane, 7, Benjamin, 6 (CUS30/1/1 P21)

Wasn't aware Thelly had confirmed the Mellish voyage with all kids.

Tricky confirming anything as we have possibly 4 Mary Hurst's.. d 1849, d 1851, d 1866 and ?


 

Title: Re: Mary HURST
Post by: thelly on Thursday 13 January 11 01:51 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the information about Mary,she did come here on the Mellish, she and Richard had seven children, their eldest son, James, was sentenced with his father, Mary came in 1830 with the other six children.  Someone else researching the Hurst name gave me the date of Mary's death, I realise now that that is incorrect.   I have looked on the Millington record search, but to no avail, would anyone know where I could find records as to where Mary and Richard are buried?
Thanks,
Thelly
Title: Re: Mary HURST
Post by: mrwilson on Thursday 13 January 11 03:41 GMT (UK)
I think most Tasmanian cemetery records are on CD, books or microfiche.
http://www.statelibrary.tas.gov.au/familyhistory/fillinggaps/cemetery
http://eheritage.statelibrary.tas.gov.au/search/search.aspx?KEYWORDS=cemeteries

HURST, MARY
Birth , 1779 
Death: 1851 - HOBART,Tasmania 

ELECTORAL ROLL,  DISTRICT OF HOBART
HURST, Richard,  Collins Street,  Freeholder          Argyle and Melville Streets houses          Aug 1856
Title: Re: Mary HURST
Post by: Bronny6 on Sunday 12 August 18 11:52 BST (UK)
Hello,i just came across your post,i'm sure Richard & Mary are my ancestors to,i will reply if you contact me,my name is Bronwen Kelly nee Elliott,i live in QLD,Australia,
Title: Re: Mary HURST
Post by: Bronny6 on Monday 13 August 18 09:12 BST (UK)
Hi Thelly,i can't seem to find the reply button to reply to you
Title: Re: Mary HURST
Post by: sarah on Monday 13 August 18 09:38 BST (UK)
Hi Bronny,

New members do not get access to all functions until they have made a couple of posts including the PM's. You should be OK now

Thelly can you keep this in mind for new members.

Regards

Sarah
Title: Re: Mary HURST
Post by: thelly on Monday 20 August 18 08:07 BST (UK)
Hi Sarah,
Not sure if I am sending this message to you the correct way.
My apologies for message to Bronny, I didn't know that she was a new member of Roots.  I haven't been on for awhile, so guess I'm not so sure about some of the rules.
Regards,
Thelly
Title: Re: Mary HURST
Post by: Geoff3163 on Saturday 04 April 20 06:17 BST (UK)
Mary Hurst was born Mary Dickinson, 1779-1851 (Hurst family tree per ship Mellish in Ancestry.com owner YpBarber)
Title: Re: Mary HURST
Post by: judb on Saturday 04 April 20 07:53 BST (UK)
Do you want further information on this family?  I can see some dates etc re the marriage in UK etc but you may already have it.

Judith
Title: Re: Mary HURST
Post by: Geoff3163 on Sunday 05 April 20 06:17 BST (UK)
Thank you.  Mary (Dickinson) Hurst was my 4th Great Grandmother.  Her husband, Richard and son, James, were transported to Tasmania in 1828 on the ship Woodford for life for burglary. Mary and her 6 children joined them in Tasmania in 1830 from the ship Mellish. Mary died in Hobart on 4 December 1851, aged 72.