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Title: Armstrong-Blair Marriage circa 1841
Post by: Pilgrims Progress on Monday 10 January 11 10:56 GMT (UK)
Hi From Down Under,   :D
 
Would any kind person assist with a marriage record of Robert Armstrong who married Margaret Blair around 1841.

This couple had five children Isabella c 1843, James c 1845, Robert c 1846, William c 1848 and Mary Ann  c 1852.

The marriage and births of these children are believed to have taken place in the vacinity of Dromahaire, Leitrim. The family appear to have been protestant.

An application by  "a" Robt Armstrong to register to vote in 1845 lists his address as Gortnalbrit, Dromahaire, Leitrim.

I'd be delighted and very grateful if any person would be able to help trace this family in any way,

Many thanks,

Pilgrims Progress  :D
Title: Re: Armstrong-Blair Marriage circa 1841
Post by: madri on Thursday 27 January 11 08:10 GMT (UK)
Hi there, I don't know if this is of any help, but here goes.  On the website www.brsgenealogy.com there is a marriage in Leitrim 1841  for Margaret Blair/Robert Armstrong.  It will costs you Euro 5 to view the complete record.  It looks like most of the children's births are there as well.

Madri
Title: Re: Armstrong-Blair Marriage circa 1841
Post by: Pilgrims Progress on Thursday 27 January 11 10:28 GMT (UK)
Hi Madri,  :)

Thank you recommending this most helpful site. I have already located marriage record and death record of this couple. Pity it is soooo expensive for each record. Maybe I have been too spoilt by Scotlands People or our NSW, Australia free indexes that contain more certain clues. Will have to save up to research the Armstrongs in Ireland any further.

Many thanks for helping- it is much appreciated,

Pilgrims Progress  ;)  :)
Title: Re: Armstrong-Blair Marriage circa 1841
Post by: madri on Thursday 27 January 11 13:07 GMT (UK)
Hello Pilgrim.  I am aware of the expense of the site, and although I have not bought too many records, it has got me info I needed. The site is not complete of records and I feel where there is more than one name on the same date/year and County, it is very difficult to pick out the correct family.  I did contact them and point it out and I know others have done the same.  They know there is no other place to search and not all of us can go to Dublin and spend days on end searching, so it doesn't really bother them. - it's guaranteed cash I'm afraid.
Happy searching.

Madri
Title: Re: Armstrong-Blair Marriage circa 1841
Post by: Berlin on Wednesday 02 March 11 01:07 GMT (UK)
Hi Pilgrim,

I may be able to help you here. I am living in Dromahair. My husband is the great grandson of William Armstrong, born 1848.  I have loads of information which I have dug out about the Armstrongs, including some sousins in America which I turned up last year. I'm in the process of trying to get to view the old Church of Ireland records here, if I can get get the current custodian to grant me access. I'd be happy to share what I already have.

Berlin
Title: Re: Armstrong-Blair Marriage circa 1841
Post by: Pilgrims Progress on Wednesday 02 March 11 23:53 GMT (UK)
Hi Berlin,

This is absolutely fantastic news! Thank you soooo much. I'd love to hear from you again to learn more,

Pilgrims Progress   :D  :D  :D 
Title: Re: Armstrong-Blair Marriage circa 1841
Post by: North Gower on Saturday 17 December 11 20:42 GMT (UK)
Hello Berlin,
You may be a livesaver for me. My great grandfather Adam Armstrong was born Aug. 5,1836 in Dromahair (the firstborn). They were CofI. His father Robert Armstrong was born June 1,1808, town not known. His wife was Margaret Eccles, born Sligo 1814. They left Ireland in 1846 or 1847 for North Gower, Ontario, Canada (just south of Ottawa). Five children on voyage were in birth order - Adam, Wiliam Eccles, Archibald, Isabella, Robert Lewis. Not known if these four were born in Dromahair or elsewhere in Ireland. Other children born in Canada were Elizabeth, Annie Eccles, John, Maria, Sarah Jane, James Eccles. Lots of names repeat in later generations - Adam, Christopher, Robert, Isabella. We did not have any Simons, Patricks or Thomases, from Robert's (1808) children born from 1836 on down.  Does this link up with anything you have? Had friends visit Dromahair two summers ago, did a bit of looking. Got Manorhamilton phone number of minister for the church, also a local merchant volunteered to help, but I have not followed up. I feel you may be the best source. Thank you.
Title: Re: Armstrong-Blair Marriage circa 1841
Post by: Berlin on Monday 19 December 11 09:56 GMT (UK)
Hi North Gower,

Your information is very interesting. Your Armstrongs seem different to mine. As far as I know there were 2 families of Armstrongs in Dromahair, although I'm sure they would be linked if we looked back far enough, Dromahair being such a small place. Some names also seem common to both, e.g. Isabella, Robert. I haven't yet been able to look at the Church of Ireland records, but will get on the case again over the Christmas holidays. I'll dig about for anything I can find on Armstrongs and let you know what I find. Are you on Ancestry.com? All my information is on there, under the username bermc.
Title: Re: Armstrong-Blair Marriage circa 1841
Post by: North Gower on Tuesday 20 December 11 06:37 GMT (UK)
Hello Berlin,
Just a quick note tonight before bedtime. Thank you so much for answering so promptly. I do not have ancestry.com, but may use a friend's account periodically to check things out. Our genealogies have seemed rather complete, given the places we have to look, how far back we have already gone, and the surviving records in those places.

Small lacunae and large brick walls have defeated further archival research. But Scotlands people, the online Irish records and help from folks on Genforum, etc. have helped tremendously.

Using the reconstituted Irish records now on the web, knowing for sure that my ggf was born 1836 in Dromahair gave me a new starting point and there he was. I was pretty certain that some of the records I saw there might be his grandparents and earlier. I guess I needed some enouragement.

One gentleman near here had online info about Armstrongs (with many common first names to our group) from Manorhamilton, which I could see was nearby. He assured me that no Armstrong from Manorhamilton could possibly be related to those from Dromahair. Funny - I thought it seemed promising to pursue, since he too was against a brick wall. In any event,....

You have quite a bit of my basic info to consider as you pursue things a bit more. Robert Armstrong was a farmer here, his son Adam also a farmer, but reknowned as a great barn builder (his from the 1860's still stands in magnificent condition), his house also.  He built one church, and a residence for one of his daughters. Did he learn this from his father? 

As I sit here, I have several recent  photos of Dromahair taken in 2009 by inlaws on a special sidetrip for us. Two of the church, one of its sign, five of Armstrong headstones in the cemetery, one of a green sign that says "Welcome to Dromahair, Seat of the O'Rourkes, Lord of Breifne", and one of the main street, on a slight downhill slope.

I shall look at your Ancestry info. Please let me know what else you find, or wish to know.

I am able to give you one more surprise. I read the fine print on your latest post more carefully, and saw the other families you are working on. My wife is a Grimes. Her great-great grandfather Thomas b. abt. 1801 and wife Mary Carroll b.abt. 1806, each born Ireland, no more place info.  Son named Michael b. abt. 1838 Ireland and Thomas b. abt 1843. They all seemed to come to Canada together. The two Thomases were shoemakers, here at least.

A Grimes genealogist in Ottawa did extensive work on his great grandfather Michael Grimes and Michael's brother John Grimes. In doing it he came upon my wife's line. All his uncles assured him their two families were not related to ours. But, when Thomas (1801) arrived, he immediately took up residence for a  few years in the village of Navan, Ontario 25 miles east of Ottawa, where the John Grimes family had been farming for a few years already. Next decennial census, the Thomas Grimes family is living in Chelsea, Quebec, 10 miles north  across the Ottawa River from the City of Ottawa. Chelsea is where Michael Grimes had been farming already, for a few years too.

John Grimes had his mother ( and the mother of Michal of Cchelsea) living with his family in Navan. Our Thomas, Michael and John were of very similar ages (The drive today from Navan, Ontario in to Ottawa, on to Chelsea is today a delightful drive of less that an hour. Back then, it would have been a very, very tough trip by horse or wagon and ferry. Navan and Chelsea are still small villages, Ottawa is a big city).

When Thomas Grimes' wife Mary died in Chelsea in 1862, one of the witnesses was Michael Grimes, but which Michael? Son, or brother-in-law? And, we have never proved Thomas' son Michael really existed, we go only on someone else's research on his existence, which we have not duplicated.

The genealogy of Michael Grimes of Chelsea is called "The Descendants of Michael Grimes - from Tipperary to Chelsea." We do know from our research that Grimes was not very common in Tipperary in the early 19th century.

My wife's father and aunt also maintained they had been told they were not related to these other two Grimes families and descendants, in the area. There seem to have been too many coincidences. Were these three men brothers, cousins or friends? To make it worse, the late author of that genealogy was the spitting image of an older cousin in my wife's family - so close, it was uncanny. Of course, now that we learn more, that older generation has passed and we no have no one to question but ourselves.

I guess some of my own family is from Monahan or Clare - great-great- grandparents born there about 1820, their children born in Dumbarton, Scotland.

I'll close for now.
Title: Re: Armstrong-Blair Marriage circa 1841
Post by: North Gower on Thursday 22 December 11 18:06 GMT (UK)
Hello Berlin,

Just a couple of areas where I have questions.

There are 23 Armstrongs listed on the kabristan.org website for cemeteries in Leitrim ( 12 are Dromahair records). If you were even able to let me know which ones you know or suspect are your family, that might help me to concentrate on the others.


Armstrong Adam
Dromahaire Old Church County Leitrim


Armstrong Anna M
Dromahaire Church of Ireland County Leitrim



Armstrong Benjamin
Manorhamilton Church of Ireland County Leitrim



Armstrong Benjamin
Manorhamilton Church of Ireland County Leitrim



Armstrong E
Dromahaire Church of Ireland County Leitrim



Armstrong Elizabeth
Dromahaire Church of Ireland County Leitrim



Armstrong Henry E
Carrick Church of Ireland County Leitrim



Armstrong Isabella
Annaghduff Church of Ireland County Leitrim



Armstrong James
Dromahaire Church of Ireland County Leitrim


Armstrong John
Killenumery Church of Ireland County Leitrim



Armstrong Lizzie
Manorhamilton Church of Ireland County Leitrim



Armstrong Margaret
Dromahaire Church of Ireland County Leitrim



Armstrong Margaret
Killenumery Church of Ireland County Leitrim



Armstrong Margaret
Newtowngore Church of Ireland County Leitrim



Armstrong Patrick
Dromahaire Church of Ireland County Leitrim



Armstrong Robert
Dromahaire Church of Ireland County Leitrim



Armstrong Sarah G
Dromahaire Church of Ireland County Leitrim



Armstrong Simeon
Manorhamilton Church of Ireland County Leitrim



Armstrong Simon
Dromahaire Church of Ireland County Leitrim



Armstrong Thomas
Manorhamilton Church of Ireland County Leitrim



Armstrong William
Dromahaire Church of Ireland County Leitrim



Armstrong William
Dromahaire Church of Ireland County Leitrim



Armstrong Willie
Carrick Church of Ireland County Leitrim


Looking at today's maps, Dromahair and Manorhamilton appear to be about 8 miles apart, as the crow flies. Do you think there were any other CofI  churches between them, in the 1800's? I am sort of trying to puzzle out for myself, if there were just the two, which one of the churches families on farms in between them might have attended. In this sense, our Adam was born in Dromahair according to family records - would folks have said "Dromahair" back then, because that is where the church was, or did it literally mean in Domahair, to the exclusion of any other settlement/village in between them? My idea here is that many of our first names in later generations seem very similar to the Manorhamilton names. I guess it depends too how many generations the Armstrongs lived there and how they might have spread within an area of 25 or 50 miles, to get land to farm. As far that goes, Killenumery (sp?) is very close-by too.

As far as the Grimes are concerned, I have searched the Irish indexes for all Thomas Grimes in every county, and none of them seem to be able to match the father/son in my wife's family. If you have any good ideas on counties where I should continue to search, may be you would be so kind as to pass them on.

The gentleman who did the other Grimes genealogies, here, spent a lot of time in Ireland looking, without any success. It was known to them that Michael Grimes was from Tipperary. My sense is that the origins are now lost in time, and not in the records that have been retrieved in recent years. Even Michael is not found in the online Irish index records.

What I saw in the indexes seems to suggest more Grimes back then in counties further east, around Dublin, or maybe that is just the records still existing which give that impression. We have a friend from Cork who said she had never heard the name in Ireland, so  it may be somewhat regionalized. Some say the Grimes name comes from Graham, also a Scottish borders name.

Take care, Merry Christmas.
Title: Re: Armstrong-Blair Marriage circa 1841
Post by: shanew147 on Thursday 22 December 11 18:17 GMT (UK)
...
Looking at today's maps, Dromahair and Manorhamilton appear to be about 8 miles apart, as the crow flies. Do you think there were any other CofI  churches between them, in the 1800's? I am sort of trying to puzzle out for myself, if there were just the two, which one of the churches families on farms in between them might have attended.
...

re this point...

the town of Manorhamilton is on the border of two civil/Church of Ireland parishes : Cloonclare and Killasnet. Dromahair is in the civil/CofI parish of Drumlease.

Parts of the parishes are adjacent but there is a parish between a section of Cloonclare and Drumlease - namely Cloonlogher.

See the maps on the Irish Times website : Civil parish - Co. Leitrim (http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/fuses/civilparish/index.cfm?fuseaction=GetMap&CityCounty=Leitrim)


Shane
Title: Re: Armstrong-Blair Marriage circa 1841
Post by: North Gower on Thursday 22 December 11 18:49 GMT (UK)
Shane,

Thank you so very much. I guess you are online right now too, as I was stunned to see a reply so quickly.

That is very helpful information. Also,  you have introduced me to a new website, which seems very promising  for this and other research I am doing.

I try to put myself into the times and places of what/who I am looking for. No trains, roads or vehicles, just wagon/cart tracks and streams/rivers, old native American trails and so on, how far a person could walk or ride on horseback in a few hours, how far they could have gone to find a spouse, etc.

My wife and I have ancestors also from the very, very beginning of French Canada, to the Great Plains of the United States and Canada in the time of covered wagons and buffalo still running wild (as late as early 1900's), to Paris and Cumbria in the 1500's.

As a result of your information, I am going to look even harder in Leitrim, to see if there are any other avenues I should be following.

Do you still live around there?

Thank you.
Title: Re: Armstrong-Blair Marriage circa 1841
Post by: shanew147 on Thursday 22 December 11 19:00 GMT (UK)
I live in South County Dublin..

re those parishes - these are details of the surviving records available for them (start dates) :

  Cloonclare - baptisms 1816, marriages 1816, death/burials 1816
  Killasnet - b1877, m1846, d1863
  Drumlease (Dromahare) - b1827, m1830, d1827

I dont see any listing for historic records for Cloonlogher.

Records for the Cloonclare, Drumlease and Killasnet are available in the RCB Library in Dublin.



Shane
Title: Re: Armstrong-Blair Marriage circa 1841
Post by: North Gower on Friday 23 December 11 04:25 GMT (UK)
Shane , thank you. Where does one find the dates for earliest records by locations, as you were able to give me above, please? I might try some more locations for still other  names in my family, if I could have some hope that records available might match a date.

I looked at all the names you are researching yourself. None of them connected to us, although I knew someone named Cantwell and also Wilsons.

As you probably gathered from my posts, I live in the Ottawa area of Ontario, Canada.  The Ottawa Valley and beyond is a very Irish area - one can still hear it in the accents and music, up the valley.
Title: Re: Armstrong-Blair Marriage circa 1841
Post by: shanew147 on Friday 23 December 11 08:19 GMT (UK)
There is no single (accurate) source of the Church of Ireland parish record dates online that I know of, but there are several printed sources with details of Church of Ireland records. Usually checking for details involves first working out which civil parish covers the town or townland. I usually start with the townland database at http://www.thecore.com/seanruad, details included in Lewis Topographical directory of 1837 (http://www.libraryireland.com/topog/) can also be useful for this.

Once the parish has been determined there are several standard reference sources which contain details - e.g. Ryan's Irish Records, Grenham etc. The RCB Library also publishes a list of sources they hold - this is updated from time to time as they acquire more records. Records for some Church of Ireland parishes are held by the National Archives.

Church of Ireland Records for much of Northern Ireland are held by PRONI.



Shane
Title: Re: Armstrong-Blair Marriage circa 1841
Post by: North Gower on Friday 23 December 11 18:33 GMT (UK)
Those give me some more new ideas to try, although some may be too far back in Monaghan and Clare.
Title: Re: Armstrong-Blair Marriage circa 1841
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 24 December 11 13:23 GMT (UK)
I've recently contacted a few people in Canada, US, Oz etc asking them about Google, they said they tried but it was hopeless for Irish results.

I then recommended them to go to www.google.ie and see if there was any difference.. they were amazed at the results they got!

Apparently there is a huge difference....
Title: Re: Armstrong-Blair Marriage circa 1841
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 24 December 11 14:02 GMT (UK)
Newspaper:    Leitrim Gazette Date:    4 July 1861 Newspaper Content:    Witness at murder trial.
Newspaper Subject:    Blair William (Summons Server for Manorhamilton)

In order to source this newspaper article, please supply all of the information below in an email to localstudies'at'leitrimcoco.ie
they should send 6 items free!!

Bib #: 14400
LDR:    00000nam 22000255 4500
1000:    $a newsNM
900:    $a Leitrim Gazette
902:    $a 4 July 1861
903:    $a Witness at murder trial.
904:    0 $a Blair William (Summons Server for Manorhamilton)
907:    $a 1 c5
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Newspaper:    Roscommon Leitrim Gazette Date:    27 August 1831
Newspaper Content:    The above died as a result of a fall from a horse while returning from Manorhamilton.

Newspaper Subject:    Blair Charles (Agent to L Tottenham Glenade)

In order to source this newspaper article, please supply all of the information below in an email to localstudies'at'leitrimcoco.ie
 
Bib #: 14396
LDR:    00000nam 22000255 4500
1000:    $a newsNM
900:    $a Roscommon Leitrim Gazette
902:    $a 27 August 1831
903:    $a The above died as a result of a fall from a horse while returning from Manorhamilton.
904:    0 $a Blair Charles (Agent to L Tottenham Glenade)
907:    $a 1 c4

 
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Bib #: 111355
LDR:    00000nam 22000255 4500
1000:    $a newsNM
900:    $a Leitrim Advertiser
902:    $a 4 November 1875
903:    $a Marriage to Charles Agustus Jones Esquire, Taish House, Drumsna, County Leitrim by Reverend W. H. Wynne, County Tyrone.
904:    0 $a Blair Maggie (Gillygordon Lodge County Tyrone)
907:    $a 2 c3

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Bib #: 42835
LDR:    00000nam 22000255 4500
1000:    $a newsNM
900:    $a Roscommon & Leitrim Gazette
902:    $a 27 August 1831
903:    $a Called to attend Charles Blair who had fallen from his horse near Manorhamilton, Mr Blair died before the above arrived.
904:    0 $a CRAWFORD SURGEON
907:    $a 1 c4
Title: Re: Armstrong-Blair Marriage circa 1841
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 24 December 11 14:20 GMT (UK)
Newspaper:    Roscommon Leitrim Gazette Date:    18 September 1830
Newspaper Subject:    Armstrong Robert (Tullyskerny)

Newspaper Content:    An application by the above regarding his intention to register a Freehold at Tullyskerny

In order to source this newspaper article, please supply all of the information below in an email to localstudies'at'leitrimcoco.ie

    Bib #: 8610
LDR:    00000nam 22000255 4500
1000:    $a newsNM
900:    $a Roscommon Leitrim Gazette
902:    $a 18 September 1830
903:    $a An application by the above regarding his intention to register a Freehold at Tullyskerny
904:    0 $a Armstrong Robert (Tullyskerny)
907:    $a 1 c2-3
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Bib #: 8631
LDR:    00000nam 22000255 4500
1000:    $a newsNM
900:    $a Roscommon Leitrim Gazette
902:    $a 16 July 1836
903:    $a Above mentioned regarding Witness at Leitrim Assizes in the Honor and May Allingham Case
904:    0 $a Armstrong Robert (Carpenter)
907:    $a 4 c4

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Bib #: 8632
LDR:    00000nam 22000255 4500
1000:    $a newsNM
900:    $a Roscommon Leitrim Gazette
902:    $a 18 September 1830
903:    $a An application by the above regarding his intention to register a Freehold at Lurgan and Curran

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Bib #: 26068
LDR:    00000nam 22000255 4500
1000:    $a newsNM
900:    $a Roscommon Leitrim Gazette
902:    $a 27 September 1845
903:    $a The above has applied to register to vote in the election of Members of Parliament
904:    0 $a Armstrong Robert (Farmer) (Gortnalibret Drumahaire)
907:    $a 2 c2-4
904:    0 $a Armstrong Robert (Lurgan)
907:    $a 1 c2-3
Title: Re: Armstrong-Blair Marriage circa 1841
Post by: liznel on Tuesday 26 June 12 20:20 BST (UK)
Do you have any info of the Blair family..I have a william blair/margaert cregg..son John(1858) and daughters margaret and catherine.all born leitrim drumahaire area.John marries elizabeth O Hara and had children william, margaret, mary-ann, robert,george,elizabeth and peter. These names are very similar to your family and I was wondering if there may be a connection
many thanks
liz
Title: Re: Armstrong-Blair Marriage circa 1841
Post by: castlebob on Monday 18 November 19 11:05 GMT (UK)
I co-admin FTDNA's Armstrong DNA Project. A Y-DNA test for those of you who share the same surname, plus a very close geographical connection, would have every chance of revealing if you were closely related. I had the same situation many years ago: I had an ancestor who lived in a tiny village in the 18th C, a few miles from another Armstrong. The county they lived in had very few of our surname, so the odds were that we were via the same stock.
Finally I managed to persuade a descendant of the other branch to test, and we matched at 66/67. With this info, we put more effort into finding a paper trail link, which we eventually found. Our common ancestor lived in 1701, and the Y-DNA test supported this scenario.
Cheers,
Bob
Title: Re: Armstrong-Blair Marriage circa 1841
Post by: Armstrong17 on Monday 26 April 21 11:58 BST (UK)
Hello North gower,

I am also related to the same Armstrong’s. Im from the south of Ottawa. I am trying to complete my family tree, I have tons of family photos, including photos of Adam Armstrong. We should chat.
Title: Re: Armstrong-Blair Marriage circa 1841
Post by: Eveline7 on Thursday 01 July 21 18:03 BST (UK)
Hello everyone,

I have registered this account for my Mother, she is from Dromohair. My mother would love to get a photo of her Mother if possible, Florence May Mchugh (formely Armstrong)
Florence May Armstrong parents were William Armstrong and Jane ( formely Sunter)
William was married twice, his first Wife died early of an illness along with two of the youngest children.
William had 5 children with his first wife, we are already confused as we are not sure if her name was Catherine Middleton or Margaret Blair, we know one of the siblings married Margaret and another married Blair. William had 5 children with her , Margaret Jane, George, Robert, Mary Ann and William.
They all lived  close to Carrigeencor Lake in Rockmount House.
When his first wife died, William was introduced to Jane Sunter by the Vicar and he remarried and the 3 remaining children were raised by Jane and William who then had six children together, Edward, Rebecca, William, Elizabeth (Eliza) Albert and Florence my mothers mother, my Grandmother.
Hi my name is Seamus, my mother is Eveline and this is her registered account.
Mum said only one of Williams children went to USA his name was Robert.
Williams first wife Catherine? was expecting her fifth child when she became ill and some of the children developed a serious illness? she died aged 37 her 8 year old son George died six weeks later and William died 18 months after George
We know Edward and William my mums uncles fought in WW1, Edward survived a gunshot to the chest a hairs length from his heart thanks to a penknife in his top pocket, he was able to return to work at the Guinness factory in Dublin and to his wife, he was shot in Dardanelles his friend an old man said it was a very painfull place to get shot.  Uncle William was very young he fought in the battle of the Somme, toured Dardanelles, Constantinople and Mesopotamia. Its worth noting Williams grandson was killed whilst serving with the British Army in the Falklands.
So there was a small school in Carrigeencor where all the children went to i hope to find some pictures ive only just been manifested by you lol how magical.
My granny Florence May Armstrong 1904-1961 was the youngest of Williams 11 children. Robert Armstrong was my mothers Grandfather. We have no photograph of my Granny when she was young. 
Title: Re: Armstrong-Blair Marriage circa 1841
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 01 July 21 21:05 BST (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat  :)

Florence May Armstrong parents were William Armstrong and Jane ( formely Sunter)

For reference for others-

Marriage 6th April 1891 - William ARMSTRONG to Jane SUNTER at Annaduff Parish Church.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1891/10669/5887895.pdf

1901 census
Residents of a house 18 in Carrigeencon (Cloonlogher, Leitrim).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Leitrim/Cloonlogher/Carrigeencon/1486195/

Florence born 23rd October 1904 at Carrigeencon.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1904/01806/1707535.pdf

1911 census
Residents of a house 17 in Carrigeencor (Cloonlougher, Leitrim).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Leitrim/Cloonlougher/Carrigeencor/654192/

KG

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Title: Re: Armstrong-Blair Marriage circa 1841
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 02 July 21 07:17 BST (UK)

William had 5 children with his first wife, we are already confused as we are not sure if her name was Catherine Middleton or Margaret Blair, we know one of the siblings married Margaret and another married Blair. William had 5 children with her , Margaret Jane, George, Robert, Mary Ann and William.
They all lived  close to Carrigeencor Lake in Rockmount House.


Margaret Jane Armstrong born 10th October 1881.  MMN Middleton (first name Catherine)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1881/02805/2029432.pdf

George Armstrong born 23rd October 1882.  MMN Middleton (first name Catherine)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1882/02760/2013804.pdf

Robert James Armstrong born 21st June 1884 at Dromahaire.  MMN Middleton (first name Kate)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1884/02680/1987328.pdf

Mary Anne Armstrong born 20th October 1886.  MMN Middleton
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1886/02582/1954178.pdf

Carrigeencor townland
https://www.townlands.ie/leitrim/drumahaire/drumlease/cloonlogher/carrigeencor/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4467467#map=12/54.2646/-8.2055

KG

Title: Re: Armstrong-Blair Marriage circa 1841
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Saturday 03 July 21 10:26 BST (UK)
They all lived  close to Carrigeencor Lake in Rockmount House.
..........
So there was a small school in Carrigeencor where all the children went to i hope to find some pictures .......

From Google Streetview, this is the old school building (on the left) east of Carrigeencor Lough.
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01qpt/

Google Earth view
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01qpu/

KG

Title: Re: Armstrong-Blair Marriage circa 1841
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Saturday 03 July 21 19:58 BST (UK)

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......I have a william blair/margaert cregg..son John(1858) and daughters margaret and catherine..

Marriage - 30th May 1857 at Killery (sic) Parish Church. Margaret living in the townland of Dromore and William from the townland of Bohey (sic).
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1857/09539/5458239.pdf
https://www.townlands.ie/sligo/tirerrill/killerry/ballintogher-east/dromore/
https://www.townlands.ie/leitrim/drumahaire/drumlease/cloonlogher/boihy/

KG

Title: Re: Armstrong-Blair Marriage circa 1841
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Sunday 04 July 21 19:40 BST (UK)
They all lived  close to Carrigeencor Lake in Rockmount House.
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So there was a small school in Carrigeencor where all the children went to i hope to find some pictures .......

From Google Streetview, this is the old school building (on the left) east of Carrigeencor Lough.
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01qpt/

Google Earth view
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01qpu/

KG

Rockmount House approximately 400 metres across the fields from Carrigeencor school.
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01qpx/

GeoHive map (Historic 1888-1913) of Carrigeencor school and surroundings.
http://map.geohive.ie/mapviewer.html
(The 'Save' feature in GeoHive still isn't working properly!)

Title: Re: Armstrong-Blair Marriage circa 1841
Post by: Ewj3 on Sunday 21 May 23 16:14 BST (UK)
Hello North Gower

Just visited Dromahair looking for Armstrong family. Always looking for Eccles too.  Anything new with Adam Armstrong family?
Title: Re: Armstrong-Blair Marriage circa 1841
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Sunday 21 May 23 20:43 BST (UK)

Welcome to RootsChat, Ewj3  :)

Unfortunately, North Gower hasn't been online here since December 2015. If they have the same e-mail address they registered with on RootsChat and still have notifications for replies turned on, then they should receive an e-mail to tell them of your post.

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GeoHive map (Historic 1888-1913) of Carrigeencor school and surroundings.
http://map.geohive.ie/mapviewer.html

This is the updated URL - https://webapps.geohive.ie/mapviewer/index.html

Use the OSi National Townland and Historical Map Viewer.
Click 'Accept' and 'OK'. Click 'X' in the black band. Then select MapGenie 25 Inch [1897-1913] in Basemap Gallery)

Type Carrigeencor in the Search Box.
Carrigeencor School - https://arcg.is/Ti0rj0