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Title: Bishops Castle Parish Registers lookup pls - HETET & MORGAN
Post by: stikybeak on Monday 10 January 11 23:42 GMT (UK)
Hi  :)

I am hoping someone has access to the Bishops Castle Parish Registers. I am looking for the baptism/christening details of any children to Joseph Louis Maria Hetet (sometimes spelt Hetit) & Mary Morgan. According to FamilySearch they were married 5 Nov 1813 Bishops Castle.

Thanks in advance
Yvonne

Title: Re: Bishops Castle Parish Registers lookup pls - HETET & MORGAN
Post by: Lloydy on Friday 11 February 11 22:06 GMT (UK)

As you have had no response to your request, I will have a look for you tomorrow while I'm at the Shropshire Archives :)
Title: Re: Bishops Castle Parish Registers lookup pls - HETET & MORGAN
Post by: Lloydy on Saturday 12 February 11 20:37 GMT (UK)

I checked the baptisms for 1813-1823 and this was the only one I could find:

No. 135
January 16th 1815   Louis son of Louis & Mary   HETTET

No mother's maiden name or address shown.

I also checked 1810-1812 but nothing there either :-\
Title: Re: Bishops Castle Parish Registers lookup pls - HETET & MORGAN
Post by: stikybeak on Saturday 12 February 11 23:24 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much for taking the time to answer my query. I was hoping to find more siblings for Louis but it looks as if there may not be any.

Thank you so much
Yvonne  :)
Title: Re: Bishops Castle Parish Registers lookup pls - HETET & MORGAN
Post by: stikybeak on Saturday 12 February 11 23:42 GMT (UK)

I checked the baptisms for 1813-1823 and this was the only one I could find:

No. 135
January 16th 1815   Louis son of Louis & Mary   HETTET

No mother's maiden name or address shown.

I also checked 1810-1812 but nothing there either :-\

Hi again,

Just rechecked on Family Search and they have a baptism/christening date for a Louis Hittet of 6th March 1815 at Bishops Castle. Parents Louis Hittet, Mary.

I wonder which is right even with the differences in the spelling of the surname.

Cheers
Y
Title: Re: Bishops Castle Parish Registers lookup pls - HETET & MORGAN
Post by: Lloydy on Monday 14 February 11 15:05 GMT (UK)

The Family Search records must only be used as a secondary source, in case of transcription errors etc.  I see that Joseph and Louis' marriage is on there twice, probably because the transcriber wasn't sure what the surname said.

At the Archives, I was looking at a microfilm copy of the ORIGINAL parish register page, and it definitely looked like HETTET to me. 

Where I can, I always check original material as the primary source.

Hope that helps :)
Title: Re: Bishops Castle Parish Registers lookup pls - HETET & MORGAN
Post by: Lloydy on Monday 14 February 11 15:48 GMT (UK)

Have you managed to trace the family any further forward?

I can't find Louis jnr in the 1841 census ???
Title: Re: Bishops Castle Parish Registers lookup pls - HETET & MORGAN
Post by: junev on Monday 14 February 11 16:12 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I don't know if this helps but
I see in 1841 Mary is living with a Catharine Morgan who I presume is her mother  - I have an 1831 census of Bishops Castle which only recorded heads of household - there are no Hetits of any spelling variation however there is widow Morgan, no occupation, with a total of 3 in the household.

Junev
Title: Re: Bishops Castle Parish Registers lookup pls - HETET & MORGAN
Post by: Lloydy on Monday 14 February 11 16:26 GMT (UK)

I've just looked at the actual image for 1841:-

Church Street, Bishops Castle, Shropshire
HO107 piece 919 folio 10/10 page 13


Catherine Morgan 83 Grocer
Mary Hettit 47 Grocer

Both born in the County


No sign of husband.


On the transcription page Mary's surname has been transcribed as Hetter!!

Pity the 1841 didn't state whether married or widowed :-\


Title: Re: Bishops Castle Parish Registers lookup pls - HETET & MORGAN
Post by: Lloydy on Monday 14 February 11 17:53 GMT (UK)
1851 census

Church Street, Bishops Castle, Shropshire
HO107 piece 1983 folio 0 page 15


Mary Hetet Head Widow 56 Grocer born Salop, Bishops Castle


Surname had been transcribed as HELET
Title: Re: Bishops Castle Parish Registers lookup pls - HETET & MORGAN
Post by: Lloydy on Monday 14 February 11 18:01 GMT (UK)

I see you already have some info
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,508926.msg3653831.html#msg3653831
Title: Re: Bishops Castle Parish Registers lookup pls - HETET & MORGAN
Post by: stikybeak on Tuesday 15 February 11 03:06 GMT (UK)

Have you managed to trace the family any further forward?

I can't find Louis jnr in the 1841 census ???

I have information on Louis in New Zealand to most of his present day descendants.

I am trying to trace him back and especially his father's roots in France. From what I understand his father JLM Hetet was a French prisoner of war in England. He left Louis and his mother Mary and went/was released back to France. Louis, as a teen, was sent to Mary's father. Just looking at the Census Mary's family appear to be grocers.

It is thought by the family in NZ that Louis came out here c1830-40 on a whaling? ship, returned to England? and came back to settle in NZ. So that would explain why Louis doesn't show in the 1841 Census he would have been in/on his way to NZ.

Regards
Yvonne
Title: Re: Bishops Castle Parish Registers lookup pls - HETET & MORGAN
Post by: Lloydy on Tuesday 15 February 11 07:59 GMT (UK)

Interesting story :)

Good luck with the french research.
Title: Re: Bishops Castle Parish Registers lookup pls - HETET & MORGAN
Post by: EBurd on Saturday 14 July 18 12:01 BST (UK)
I am looking for Ngahuia Hetet  born Te Kuiti c. 1865 father Henare Matengaro Hetet mother Te Ruwai Otimi Rautahi

I am interested in her marriage to Thomas Taylor Watt and have only found one note of a son Herbert Louis Watt b 1917.

Are there any other Watt children born to this couple and does anyone have Ngahuia on their tree?
Regards
Liz