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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Ayrshire => Topic started by: mactheref on Wednesday 12 January 11 05:24 GMT (UK)
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I would be interested in hearing from anyone looking to fill in their Ballantine/Ballantyine family trees.
Maybe we are related
mostly my family is from Ayrshire or previous to that in Lanarkshire
Looking forward to hearing from you
Mac
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I have Ballantynes in Glasgow who then moved to Liverpool. May have started out in Leith.
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I have James Ballantine b.abt 1795 Kirkoswald Ayrshire died 1873 in Glassford.
His reputed father was James Ballantine,Tailor,who married Margaret Shearer at Eastwood Renfrew in 1798.
James and Margaret had two sons that I know of in Stonehouse Lanarkshire
Andrew b abt 1800 and Hugh b. about 1804.
Janet
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My grandmother was a Ballantyne, but from the Borders my 3 x Great Grandfather was Andrew Ballantyne born 19th Oct 1814 in Galashiels, Selkirkshire, Scotland and died 20 December 1875 in Ladhope, Roxburghshire, Scotland he had 12 children .
Nigel
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I am prohibited from sending an Excel Spreadsheet with 2 Worksheets on Ballantines.
On the Robert Niven Worksheet you would find Janet Niven marrying Thomas Ballantine and later their granddaughter Agnes Ballantine marrying Alexander Niven.
On the Niven/Ballantine sheet you would see a Billy Niven (adopted), whose grandson (I think) John Ballantine Niven was killed in 9/11.
Gordon Niven
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I have been researching my family-history for over 30 years and the one line on which I have never made any progress is Ballantyne.
I know that my 4 x great-grandparents Thomas Welsh and Jean Ballantyne were married in Glasgow in 1795. Thomas was a soldier in the 7th Regiment of Fencibles, the "Hopetoun Fencibles", and I believe he was from Roxburghshire.
Jean is described in the marriages register as "Residenter in Glasgow", which just means that she lived there, but of course she may well have been a native. The only possible birth I've found at the right time in Glasgow (I can't remember the date offhand) is a Jane or Jean born to James Ballantine and Christian McGregor. I have never been able to find this couple's marriage.
Harry
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William Seton Gordon Duys Niven was adopted by his aunt after his mother, Adele Gordon Duys died. The aunt was Susan Gordon who had married John Niven.
William Niven had three children. The youngest, John Ballantine Niven, was my husband. He was killed at age 44 on September 11th. His son is named John Ballantine Niven. I found this site because my son and I were looking for more background on his name, so I would be interested to know more about Ballantine and Niven. I have a detailed family tree on Gordon.
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I have a Jessie Baird born c.1870. Her mother was Jessie Ballantyne married to Samuel Baird. No other details other than it was possibly in the Irvine area.
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In reply to E Niven
Great to correspond with you. I have extensive details of Nivens and Ballantines on the Niven of Maybole Family Tree on Ancestry.com. Your direct ancestor, Alexander Niven b1760 Bishop Of Dunkeld, was a school friend of Robert Burns as was Alexander's full cousin, William Niven b1762. I clearly have errors on the Family Tree regarding your family. Please clarify the following? Was your husband's parents William Niven and ?. Was your husband's grandparents William Seton Gordon Duys Niven and Jeanne? What were the names of your husband's siblings? William, Susan & Wendy?
Regards
Gordon Niven
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I have a few Ballantine/Ballantynes in my daughter's tree. They are from the three town's area and including Annabella and Campbell Ballantine.
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Hi, Do you know of any Ballantines from Furnace Row in Bo'ness? My Great Gran was Sarah Ballantine and had 3 sisters, Eliza, Jane and Mary. Her mum was Mary Ann (m.n McKnight) and her father Thomas.
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I have Thomas Ballantine born 1806 Airdrie, Lanarkshire married Susannah Strachan 1829 in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire. I'm descended from the Strachan line so haven't done much research on the Ballantines.
Thomas and Susannah Ballantine had a large family and were a coal mining family. Their son John Ballantine, born 1836 Kilmarnock, migrated to Galt, Canada and helped form a company which eventually became part of one of Canada's largest companies. A daughter married John Ross, who became a marine engineer in London. Not sure what happened to their other children.
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Dear E. Niven,
My name is Aaron Reid, I am a distant relative of yours through the Ballantine family line.
My father is currently writing a book on the history of our Ballantine family line and there is a section in the book detailing the historical connection between the Ballantine's and the Niven's.
My father has asked if I could try to contact you to ask if you would like him to send you a copy of this book when it is completed which will be within the next 2 months or so.
Thank you.
Best wishes
Aaron
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Hi!
I have a GG Grandma Mary Ballentine b. 1833, Scotland parents were a John Ballentine and her mom was Isabel Campbell. She married John Anderson Millsop b. 5 Aug 1825, St. Quivox Parish, Scotland. And that's all I've been able to find out. I do have John's parents and siblings if needed. The Ballentine children and Mary's siblings were: John Campbell Balentine b. 7 Aug 1836, Muirkirk, Quinten Campbell Ballentine b. 5 Nov 1838, Muirkirk, Jean/Jane b. 8 Jan 1841, Paisley, Ann b.15 Jan 1848, Scotland. If you can find Mary's POB and her exact DOB that would be great! Thank you in advance!
Candace
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Dear Gordon, My x sister in law was mistaken. My father was William Seton Duys Niven adopted by his aunt Susan Wallace Niven Nee Gordon. His mother was Adele Gordon Duys who died of a breast infection when he was two. My father and my mother, Jeanne Skinner Niven had four children. William Seton Niven, Susan McKay Niven, Wendy Wallace Cross and John Ballantine Niven who died in the South Tower on 9/11. I do have records and pictures of your blood relatives that I would be happy to share. All the Best, Susie
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Ballantyne/Lambie of Mearns via son James.
Don
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I have been researching my family-history for over 30 years and the one line on which I have never made any progress is Ballantyne.
I know that my 4 x great-grandparents Thomas Welsh and Jean Ballantyne were married in Glasgow in 1795. Thomas was a soldier in the 7th Regiment of Fencibles, the "Hopetoun Fencibles", and I believe he was from Roxburghshire.
Jean is described in the marriages register as "Residenter in Glasgow", which just means that she lived there, but of course she may well have been a native. The only possible birth I've found at the right time in Glasgow (I can't remember the date offhand) is a Jane or Jean born to James Ballantine and Christian McGregor. I have never been able to find this couple's marriage.
Harry
I've done a bit more research on my Ballantynes in Glasgow. The name is spelt every which way in the OPRs but I'll stick to Ballantyne for convenience.
Firstly, James Ballantyne was one of the famous Calton weavers, in the Barony parish in Glasgow. He and his wife Christian McGregor were the parents of James(1761), Angus(1764), Cristian(1768) and Jean(1775). Cristian is described as the 4th child so there's one missing.
Angus would have been very much a Highland name at that period, so I wonder if James Ballantyne's wife Christian McGregor was the child of that name born in 1734 at Dull in Highland Perthshire to Donald McGregor and Christian BALLANTINE? Given the tendency of Scots to marry cousins, could James Ballantyne and Christian McGregor have been cousins from Perthshire who married and moved down to Glasgow to find work?
Harry
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I am looking for anyone who has been researching the Ballantyne / McKenzie families from Glasgow.
I have seen a number of posts which I believe are connected to my relatives. My gggrandfather was Alexander McKenzie, born in Glasgow who later lived in Liverpool.
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Although my interest is more in Rutherfords, one of my extended family did marry a Margaret Thomson Ballantine in 1913 in St Giles, Edinburgh and she passed away (to the best of my knowledge) in 1967 in Monkton and Prestwick(?), Ayrshire. I would be interested if anyone knows anything about her life after 1915 (the year her husband died).
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I am descended for George Ballentine (1635-1702?). I am looking for relations within the Lanarkshire area with information of the Ballentine family history.
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This is just a message to say that I would be most interested in any records of the Gordon family mentioned by the two members of the Niven family that posted earlier. I believe that this family is related to the Gordons of Holm and Craig, which is in turn related to the family of Gordon of Lochinvar. The Viscountcy of Kenmure was held by the Lochinvar branch, and has been dormant - but not extinct - since the death of the last Viscount in 1847. I would be willing to share my own research into this family.
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Hello, I am looking for any information about the Ballantines/Ballantynes of Ayrshire/Lanarkshire. Recently found new links to James Ballantine b.1795 Kirkoswald, d. 1873 Glassford. Many questions how James' son George b.1827 in Ireland, d. 1865 in Fayston,VT USA.(my direct line)
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James Ballentyne and Sarah ?? had a son Robert in 1867 in Scotland - the son went to Canada - does that match anyone ??
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Greetings! None of the posts have mentioned the Ballantynes I'm looking for, so hope someone may have some info. I'm looking for Caroline Ballantyne b ca 1795, possibly Drymore, Stirling parish. Her parents were John Ballantyne, possibly merchant in Ayrshire married to Janet M'Lord. Caroline's death cert says her mother was Janet MacKxxx (illegible). Perhaps the two Janets are one and the same.
Caroline married Hugh Lundie in 1836 in the Gorbals. After his death (or maybe before!), it looks like she reverted to Ballantyne surname and if so was in Glasgow in 1861 and Partick in 1871, living first with her daughter Caroline now Thomson, wife of tea merchant, and later with her nephew James Harris, master shoe maker. Died 1874.
Any clues gratefully received!
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I am from Ballantynes of Lethanhill, muirkirk and going back to Lanarkshire.
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Greetings! None of the posts have mentioned the Ballantynes I'm looking for, so hope someone may have some info. I'm looking for Caroline Ballantyne b ca 1795, possibly Drymore, Stirling parish. Her parents were John Ballantyne, possibly merchant in Ayrshire married to Janet M'Lord. Caroline's death cert says her mother was Janet MacKxxx (illegible). Perhaps the two Janets are one and the same.
Caroline married Hugh Lundie in 1836 in the Gorbals. After his death (or maybe before!), it looks like she reverted to Ballantyne surname and if so was in Glasgow in 1861 and Partick in 1871, living first with her daughter Caroline now Thomson, wife of tea merchant, and later with her nephew James Harris, master shoe maker. Died 1874.
Any clues gratefully received!
The marriage with different surname spelling:
BALLANTINE CAROLINE HUGH LUNDY/FR1270 (FR1270) 19-11-1836 644/2 70 180 Gorbals
Although I can’t see Caroline’s birth there is a Jean born in Gorbals with parent John and Jane McEwen
BALLANTINE JEAN JAMES BALLANTINE/JANET MCEWEN FR321 (FR321) F 10-5-1807 644/2 10 308 Gorbals
Are you able to post a snippet of the mother’s surname you are unable to read?
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I’ve got a Janet Scot, Grizel Lyn, Christian Todd. That’s takes us to 1665.
No Caroline, sorry
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Thanks for your reply. More info has been uncovered since my original post, but mysteries remain.
Caroline Ballantyne born ca 1795 in Drymen Stirling (but no birth cert found). Her death cert says her parents were John Ballantyne, a mason, and Janet Walker. (Surname was Walker not MacKxxx, my stupid error.) However, Janet was married to Matthew Ballantyne, a sawyer. Matthew's father was named John.
Matthew and Janet also had a daughter named Jean who married Mitchell Harris. Their son John Harris became a master shoemaker. In her later years, Caroline lived with him and his family and he was present at Caroline's death.
So, most likely father was Matthew and not John (and the John Ballantyne, merchant in Ayrshire was an early false lead).
Caroline married Hugh Lundie, 1836, Gorbals. It was his 3rd marriage. Their daughter Caroline was born 1839, soon after which the parents (Caroline and Hugh) seemed to go separate ways. Daughter Caroline married James Allan Thomson in 1859 and died of typhus in 1867. Mother Caroline died in 1874
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Looking for Ballantine/Ballantyne's based primarily in the Strathaven / Glassford / Stonehouse area and particularly associated with Shotlinn Farm on the Hamilton Estate. These include Andrew Ballantine (1784-1863)/Helen Craig and his sibs James, John, Thomas, Agnes and William(1781-1811)/Christian Dow. Andrew/Helen's children include: Andrew (1826-1870)/Margaret Barr, Elizabeth, William/Margaret, James, Isabella, Helen, Janet, George, John, Agnes, Thomas, Robert and Margaret. Andrew/Helen's family can be seen on the 1851 census at Shotlinn farm.
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Well, My maternal great grandpa's maternal grandmother was a lady called Marion Ballantyne 1855-1914. Her father was William Ballantyne 1830-1905. Who married Ann Taylor 1831-1909.
Hope this helped.
Regards,
Daniel
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James Ballentyne and Sarah ?? had a son Robert in 1867 in Scotland - the son went to Canada - does that match anyone ??
I have had a hard time finding info on this side of my family but I have a semi/possible match.
My 2nd GGfather
James Ballantyne 1858–1946
BIRTH 1858 • Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Parents: Robert Ballantyne & Helen Watson
Siblings: Helen, Nicolas, Robert & Margaret
Came to Canada approx 1889
He had an English wife called Jenny (Marriage date/location unknown)
Children: Hannah, Robert, James (Jas)