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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Hampshire & Isle of Wight => Topic started by: Julie King on Saturday 15 January 11 21:11 GMT (UK)
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I am looking for any information with regard to Rev William M Hudson who married Elizabeth Cropp in Kingsclere. Hewas born 1725 in Kingsclere and died 23rd July 1771 in Kingsclere. Elizabeth Cropp also died in Kingsclere.They must have maried there as well
Information states he was reverend of Kingsclere parish church but I could not see anything when visited.
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Try,
Clergy of Church of England Database
< http://eagle.cch.kcl.ac.uk:8080/cce/ (http://eagle.cch.kcl.ac.uk:8080/cce/)>there are three
You could try Crockford's - local reference library or post a message here
< http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,296.0.html (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,296.0.html)
Ann E
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Hi Julie,
Welcome to RootsChat :)
I've not been able to find a marriage for this couple in Hampshire, certainly not in Kingsclere. The catalogue entry for William's will (at Hampshire Record office in Winchester) does indicate that he was a cleric, although it doesn't specifically state that he was the incumbent of the parish. However on the baptism record of his daughter Ann in 1762, it states he is the Reverend William Hudson.
I'm also a bit puzzled since I can't find a baptism in Kingsclere for him either. :-\
Nell
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According to John Lewis's Genealogical Website for Kingsclere, the burial entry records William HUDSON clerk schoolmaster 56 but the numerals are difficult to read.
There may be further information to be gleaned from HRO ref: 21M65/E13/1/65 - Laymen's Licence Papers for Schoolmasters and Lecturers - Nomination of William HUDSON curate of Kingsclere to Sir Jason Lancaster's Free School of Kingsclere, vice Mr Bolte, vicar deceased. There appear to be two testimonials dated 1750 and 1752. What luck! ;D
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Thanks for this. This is really interesting. How to find the information.I've not heard about that particular site
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John Lewis's genealogy site for Kingsclere:
http://startx.co.uk/Kingsclere
Hampshire Records Office searchable catalogue (records not available online)
http://calm.hants.gov.uk
updated link 2016
Nell
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Did you have any luck with rev William Hudson? His daughter Mary b 17/3/1754 is my ancestor.
His wife Elizabeth was born 1725 and died 23/7/1771 (family search IGI index)
I have information on Mary, my ancestor and another daughter Martha b.10/6/1756.
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I think that William Hudson of Kingsclere might have been curate of Tadley.
Tadley is just a few miles away from Kingsclere, and probably part of the same Parish.
A William Hudson is signing the Church marriage register from 1754 - 1771.
My William Hudson died in 1771, and after that date the register is signed by someone else.
I hope this is useful.
Paul Meara
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Hello Dee-Jay,
Hope your day goes well.
I clicked that LINK > "Hampshire Records Office searchable catalogue (records not available online)
(Link has now been updated 2016)
However, it returns a 404 page not found.
Let's see if I can find that page?
If you happen to find it before I do, could you please post it here online.
Thanks so much.
Hava top day there!
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;D Try: http://www3.hants.gov.uk/archives/catalog.htm
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Or this one:
http://calm.hants.gov.uk/
Unfortunately - or fortunately - upgrades or improvements occur all the time and it's four years since I posted that link ;)
Nell
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Hello Nell,
Thank you for the updated link info.
I don't get online every day, nor as much as I would like to be able to do so, hence the delay in posting back here to let you know the result of your reply.
I have found some interesting details about Elizabeth CROPP.
It appears there may have been more than one person of the same family lineage had the same name.
The Elizabeth CROPP I am searching died in 1771, the same year as her husband Rev. William HUDSON expired.
There's been a "hand-me-down" family story that says Elizabeth CROPP is the daughter or more likely (by years) grand-daughter of a woman who was mistress of King GEORGE I.
One of my mother's 'uncles' HOLMESBY went to the UK and researched our family genealogy for what became his writings of the book "THE FIRST OF THE MANY". Basically it's about Thomas Hudson BEARE - yes, there's the name HUDSON popping up. His father was Thomas BEARE who married Martha, daughter of Elizabeth & Rev.William HUDSON - it was Thomas Hudson BEARE who arrived on the vessel "Duke Of York" at Kangaroo Island in 1836, and went on to open the South Australian state at Adelaide - his youngest daughter is claimed to be the first white settler to put foot on the soil of South Australia.
Sorry, i've digressed a little...
As you can see, it is the history of the CROPP family that I am most interested in.
When HOLMESBY inquired of the connection of CROPP and King GEORGE I, he was brushed off by the royals...
No one wants this connection to be known, despite the history of some 8 generations, or perhaps 9, that would link the two names of CROPP & GEORGE I.
If you should come across anything at all that could be a piece of this 'puzzle', please do let me know.
In appreciation of the great work you do there helping with family enquiries from around the world, thank you so much.
Mark RIDGWAY
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Did you have any luck with rev William Hudson? His daughter Mary b 17/3/1754 is my ancestor.
His wife Elizabeth was born 1725 and died 23/7/1771 (family search IGI index)
Strange .... His Will is annotated 'Sep 20 1771 On which day personally appeared Elizabeth HUDSON widow & sole executrix named in the above written will and was duly sworn to execute the said will before me.' [signature illegible]
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Hello dee-jay, thank you for this information. Where can the will for the estate of Rev William Hudson of KINGSCLERE be found and read? - " His Will is annotated 'Sep 20 1771 On which day personally appeared Elizabeth HUDSON widow & sole executrix named in the above written will and was duly sworn to execute the said will before me.' [signature illegible]" - I have heard rumor that says Elizabeth outlived her husband Rev William, and she lived on and married again, but i've not seen any official details of this, yet.
If I can see this then I can make the necessary corrections.
Thank you so much,
Mark
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Hi Mark,
The Will, reference 1771B/29, is on microfiche stored in accessible drawers in the Search Room at Hampshire Record Office. This is quite a short will, compared to many, but as my time was limited I merely extracted the detail proving her continued existence beyond the date previously stated.
Please see PM.
dee-jay
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Did you have any luck with rev William Hudson? His daughter Mary b 17/3/1754 is my ancestor.
His wife Elizabeth was born 1725 and died 23/7/1771 (family search IGI index)
I have information on Mary, my ancestor and another daughter Martha b.10/6/1756.
Hello! Hope your day goes well there. I have just returned here after a period of absence due to poor health - am good now. What I want to ask, is does anyone have any document that is an official record of Elizabeth CROPP's birth and death? I note that in the above "quote" it mentions Elizabeth's daughter Mary is BARNSLEY'S ancestor. Also, does anyone have any evidence of Elizabeth's origin - her parents - siblings - home address/location, etc?
Looking forward to your reply, and establishing who Elizabeth CROPP really was.
Kind regards, Mark