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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Suffolk => England => Suffolk Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Joanne on Thursday 27 January 11 19:14 GMT (UK)
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Bit of an ask but worth a go. After recently viewing the 1911 census for my great great grandparents Charles & Elvina Chapman, it says they had a 5th child that didn't survive. I've managed to narrow the said child down to 5 possible matches on freebmd:
Charles Spurgeon Chapman Died Dec 1892 Hoxne aged 0
Bertha Chapman Died June 1897 Hoxne aged 0
Male Chapman Died March 1900 Hoxne aged 0
George Frederick Chapman Died Dec 1900 Hoxne aged 2
Ada Chapman Died Sep 1901 Hoxne aged 0
Their 4 other children were born in Athelington and Worlingworth and they married in Wilby. The vicar for Athelington kindly had a look in the registers for me but there were no Chapmans there. Just wondering if anyone has access to the Worlingworth, Wilby or any other of the parishes listed in the Hoxne district and would like to have a little search for any of the above please?
It would be very appreciated :)
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Joanne,
Not much help here but from the Suffolk Burial Index (ex SFHS) I have managed to find
the following;
26-4-1897 Bertha Chapman, 6w, Fressingfield St..Peter & St.Paul.
I did look for others but couldn't see them.
Alan
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Maybe a wild card, but as the first child on the list is named Charles Spurgeon Chapman it may be worth looking in the non conformist records particularly Baptist. Very strong area for all baptists.
Charles Spurgeon was a great baptist preacher who died in 1892!
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Thanks for looking Alan, is something I didn't know anyway :)
Also thanks Hephzibah, will keep that in mind
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Hi Joanne,
Just looked at Worlingworth PR burials fiche for the period you mention and no sign of any Chapmans.
The last entry was dated 8 Sept 1900 so couldn't check your 1901 possibility.
Ron.
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Also have two other Hoxne dist PRs - Tannington and Bedfield and the Tannington one covers the whole period you mention but no Chapmans. The Bedfield last entry was 19 July 1901 but no Chapmans to then.
Ron.
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That's great thanks for looking Ron. It's quite a mystery!
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Hi Joanne,
Thirty plus years ago I knew a Chapman family who lived in Athelington and attended Horham Baptist Chapel.
This possibly could tie in with Charles Spurgeon Chapman - named after the "Prince of Preachers" - Charles Haddon Spurgeon. It might be worth contacting the chapel to see if they have burial records. They, of course, would not have christening records as Grace (formerly Strict) Baptists do not practice infant baptism.
The chapel does not appear to have a minister at the moment or a website, but perhaps a letter to the church secretary may help-
Horham Baptist Chapel
Chapel Lane
Horham
Eye
Suffolk IP21 5ER
Best wishes
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Thanks for that Scotty, will give it a go
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Hello - My records for Wilby only go up to 1900 (July), but there is no record of the first three names in your list.
Not sure if this will be of any help, but the 1891 marriage record for Charles & Elvina states that she was living in Brundish at the time - so it might be worth checking their parish records also.
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Thanks for looking. I have just answered my own question though. On looking again at the 1911 census entry my great great grandfather Charles Chapman wrote in, what I assumed was his own name in the wrong place and crossed it out, but looking again I can see it says Charles Spurgeon Chapman aged 8 days old in Athelington. The missing child.
As the Athelington Vicar had a look in the church baptism records and couldn't find any Chapmans I was wondering where/what the non conformist records mentioned by Hephzibah are?
Many thanks Joanne
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I've had a look at A2A for Suffolk RO & can only find the marriage records for Horham Baptist (1910 - 1963)
'My Ancestors were Baptists' by Geoffrey Breed has no records listed for Horham.
I was raised in the Baptist denomination and whilst not baptised as a baby, I was dedicated! However, I donot know if the Grace Baptists practice infant dedication/christening....perhaps someone can let us know?
It may be that your best bet is to write to the church, as suggested by Scotty151.
The Chapman I knew who lived at Worlingworth in the 1960s became a Strict (now Grace) Baptist Minister
Good luck in your search.
Hephzibah
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Many thanks Hephzibah :)
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Hi
I just came across your Post , randomly on Google, so I have joined up Rootschat especially.
I don't know if this will help, but I am a Chapman and I live in Athelington Road, Horham (nearly Athelington!) My family have been locally based for many years and my father lives next door to me.
If you like I can ask him any questions about these name?
I know this is a year after your post, but weren't sure if you still needed the info
Kind regards
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1. John CHAPMAN was born in 1812 in Wilby, Suffolk. On 30 Mar 1851 he was an Agricultural labourer in Foals Green, Wilby, Suffolk. On 3 Apr 1881 he was an Agricultural labourer in Bilby Green, Eye, Suffolk. John died in Jun 1889 at the age of 77 in Hoxne Registration District, Suffolk.
John CHAPMAN and Charlotte MARTIN were married in Dec 1838 in Hoxne Registration District, Suffolk. Charlotte MARTIN was born in 1819 in Wilby, Suffolk. She died in 1889 at the age of 70 in Hoxne Registration District, Suffolk.
John CHAPMAN and Charlotte MARTIN had the following children:
2 i. Ann CHAPMAN was born in 1839 in Wilby, Suffolk.
3 ii. John CHAPMAN was born in 1842 in Wilby, Suffolk.
4 iii. Marian CHAPMAN was born in 1845 in Wilby, Suffolk.
+5 iv. Robert CHAPMAN, born 1848, Wilby, Suffolk; married Jemima NOBLE, Dec 1871, Hoxne Registration District, Suffolk.
6 v. Emma CHAPMAN was born in 1849 in Wilby, Suffolk.
7 vi. George CHAPMAN was born in 1852 in Wilby, Suffolk.
8 vii. Sarah CHAPMAN was born in 1855 in Wilby, Suffolk.
+9 viii. Charles CHAPMAN, born Jun 1859, Wilby, Suffolk; married Anna GODBOLD, 19 May 1880, St Mary, Dennington, First Generation
Suffolk; died Mar 1952, Deben Registration District, Suffolk.
+10 ix. James CHAPMAN, born 1864, Wilby, Suffolk; married Laura GODDARD, Dec 1888, Hoxne Registration District, Suffolk.
Second Generation
5. Robert CHAPMAN (John-1) was born in 1848 in Wilby, Suffolk. On 30 Mar 1851 he was in Fools Green, Wilby, Suffolk. On 3 Apr 1881 he was an Agricultural labourer in Norwich Road, Caistor St Edmund, Norfolk. Living with the family was William Last of Wilby, Suffolk In 1891 Robert was an Agricultural labourer in Norwich Road, Caistor St Edmund, Norfolk. On 2 Apr 1911 he was a Labourer on farm in Caistor St Edmund, Norfolk.
Robert CHAPMAN and Jemima NOBLE were married in Dec 1871 in Hoxne Registration District, Suffolk. Jemima NOBLE, daughter of Sier or Syer NOBLE and Ann STANNARD, was born in Jan 1829 in Tannington, Suffolk. She was baptized on 17 Jan 1829 in St Ethelbert, Tannington, Suffolk. On 7 Apr 1861 she was in Tannington, Suffolk. Living with her brother Syer & stepmother Martha On 2 Apr 1871 Jemima was a Bread baker in Wilby, Suffolk. She died in Dec 1889 at the age of 60 in Henstead Registration District, Norfolk.
Robert CHAPMAN and Jemima NOBLE had the following child:
+11 i. Bertha Ellen CHAPMAN, born 7 Apr 1875, Brundish, Suffolk; married Alfred Edwin TAYLOR, Jun 1912, Norwich Registration District, Norfolk; died 1958, Norwich, Norfolk.
9. Charles CHAPMAN (John-1) was born in Jun 1859 in Wilby, Suffolk. On 31 Mar 1901 he was an Agricultural labourer in Cottage, Church Road, Monewden, Suffolk. He died in Mar 1952 at the age of 92 in Deben Registration District, Suffolk.
Charles CHAPMAN and Anna GODBOLD were married on 19 May 1880 in St Mary, Dennington, Suffolk. Marriage witnessed by John & Sarah Chapman Anna GODBOLD, daughter of Jacob GODBOLD and Mary CRISP, was born in Jun 1860 in Dennington, Suffolk. She was baptized on 10 Jun 1860 in St Mary, Dennington, Suffolk. She died in Dec 1937 at the age of 77 in Deben Registration District, Suffolk.
Charles CHAPMAN and Anna GODBOLD had the following children:
12 i. Emily CHAPMAN was born in 1880 in Wilby, Suffolk.
+13 ii. Herbert Charles CHAPMAN, born Dec 1882, Wilby, Suffolk; married Jane DAVEY, Sep 1911, Plomesgate Registration District, Suffolk; died Mar 1958, Deben Registration District, Suffolk.
14 iii. Annie CHAPMAN was born in 1887 in Wilby, Suffolk.
+15 iv. Jacob John CHAPMAN, born Mar 1890, Wilby, Suffolk; married Annie Jane O HOSKEN, Mar 1919, Plomesgate Registration District, Suffolk; died Dec 1960, Blyth Registration District, Suffolk.
16 v. Ethel CHAPMAN was born in 1893 in Wilby, Suffolk.
17 vi. Robert CHAPMAN was born in 1895 in Wilby, Suffolk.
18 vii. Charlotte CHAPMAN was born in 1895 in Wilby, Suffolk.
19 viii. Ellen Ruth CHAPMAN was born in Dec 1901 in Monewden, Suffolk.