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Title: VIC bdm lookup - Alfred James & Henrietta QUARRELL
Post by: ajf25 on Thursday 03 February 11 11:55 GMT (UK)
Would someone with the resources please look up the following?

Marriage/children and death of:

Alfred James Quarrell b. Dec qtr 1856, Islington, London of parents George and Sarah.

Arrived Melbourne on board the Parsee in May 1858.

and Henrietta Quarrell, b. Camperdown, VIC 1873 possibly to the same parents.

Regards,
Alison  :D


Title: Re: VIC bdm lookup - Alfred James & Henrietta QUARRELL
Post by: sidsmith on Thursday 03 February 11 21:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Alison

Alfred James Quarrell married Emily Butters Victoria 1880  Reg No 338
Children
Mary Martha Helen B 1880 at Pleasent C  Reg 17858
Edward William b 1883 at Broo Reg 755
Rose Elizabeth b 1884 at Ball  Reg 14280
Maude Alice b 1886 Ball Reg 23553

regards
Sid
Title: Re: VIC bdm lookup - Alfred James & Henrietta QUARRELL
Post by: sidsmith on Thursday 03 February 11 21:39 GMT (UK)
Hi Alison
The parents of Henrietta Quarrell b 1873 are George & Sarah Currell   Reg 22500
regards Sid
Title: Re: VIC bdm lookup - Alfred James & Henrietta QUARRELL
Post by: sidsmith on Thursday 03 February 11 21:47 GMT (UK)
Hi Alison
More Births
Alfred Quarrell b 1889 Ballarat East Reg 18261
Lilian Violet Quarrell b 1896 Stawell Reg 6966
Walter Aubrey Quarrell b 1894 Ballarat Reg 26251
Regards
Sid
Title: Re: VIC bdm lookup - Alfred James & Henrietta Quarrell
Post by: alison2763 on Thursday 03 February 11 21:50 GMT (UK)
Hello Alison,
Children listed to George QUARRELL and Sarah CURRELL  { the death of the first child states she was born London}
1. Charlotte d 1859 aged 16 months { b London } # 2317
2. Agnes Louisa b 1860 # 9578
3. Joseph Thomas b 1864 Creswick # 8069 d 1864 aged 8 months  Victoria # 7537
4. Victoria b 1866 Creswick # 7727 d 1867 aged 11 months Creswick # 1430
5. Samuel b 1869 Creswick # 21746
6. Charles Theodore b 1871 Creswick # 15539
7. Henrietta b 1873 Camperdown # 22500 d 1959 aged 86  bairnsdale # 26863 { married name BARRY }
8. William John b ? d 1927 aged 62 Stawell # 3515
9. Edward John b ? d 1931 aged 82 Terang # 7309 #
10. Anne Crawford b ? d 1921 aged 69 Brunswick # 13031 { married name  WARTNABY}
11. Elizabeth Alice b ? d 1941 aged 86 Stawell # 16273 { Married name  RANDLE }

There are other QUARRELLs in Creswick and Ballarat at the same time I am sure they are all related but for the moment I will stick with this one family that we know  ;)

Marriages:

Alfred James { b London } m Emily Butters { b Daylesford} 1880 # 338
1. Mary Martha Helen b 1880 Pleasant Creek # 17858
2. Edward William b 1883 BROO # 755
3. Rose Elizabeth  b 1884 Ballarat # 14280
4. Maude Alice b 1886 Ballarat East # 23553 d 1887 aged 5 months Ballarat East # 246
5. Alf b 1889 Ballarat E # 18261
6. Mabel Annie b 1892 Ballarat # 9946
7. Walt Aubrey b 1894 Ballarat  # 26251 d 1895 aged 3 months Ballarat  # 217
8. Lillian Violet b 1896 Stawell # 6966

Agnes Louisa QUARRELL { b Castlemaine} m  Alexander CROSBIE { b Scotchmans Lead } 1887 #
1324
1. Elizabeth Alice b 1887 Creswick # 27640
2. David Young b 1889 Creswick # 20735
3. Francis Leslie b 1892  Creswick # 12580 d 1892 aged 7 months Creswick # 13511
4. Agnes Rubina b 1893 Creswick # 30820
5. Doris Irene b 1897 Creswick # 18508
6. Donald Gordon b 1900 Creswick # 10368

Agnes Louisa CROSBIE d 1917 aged 57 Ballarat E -  George QUARRELL and Sarah CARROLL # 4515

George's death :
George QUARRELL d 1906 aged 86  Ballarata E - John QUARRELL and  Ann CROFFORD # 270
a brother ?
John QUARRELL d 1907 aged 89 Ballarat E - John QUARRELL and Elizateh CROFFORD # 3498

Sarah's death :
Sarah QUARRELL d 1904 aged 74 Ballarat E -  John CORRELL and  Elizabeth unknown # 292

Can't see a death fro Alfred at the moment. Have to go to work will have another look this afternoon  ;)

Regards
Alison
Title: Re: VIC bdm lookup - Alfred James & Henrietta QUARRELL
Post by: ajf25 on Thursday 03 February 11 21:56 GMT (UK)
You're up and on the go bright and early Sid  :D

thanks for confirming Henrietta's parents.

In various online trees, there is a mention of an Alfred Quarrell marrying a Martha Jane Mason.  If possible, would you be able to check if and where she comes into the picture.

Just was red posted - Alison you certainly have been busy.  Thanks so much for what you've done.  Have a good day at work.  Probably about the time you get home, I'll be heading of to do same.

thanks,
Alison  ;D
Title: Re: VIC bdm lookup - Alfred James & Henrietta Quarrell
Post by: ajf25 on Thursday 03 February 11 22:13 GMT (UK)

George's death :
George QUARRELL d 1906 aged 86  Ballarata E - John QUARRELL and  Ann CROFFORD # 270
a brother ?
John QUARRELL d 1907 aged 89 Ballarat E - John QUARRELL and Elizateh CROFFORD # 3498

Sarah's death :
Sarah QUARRELL d 1904 aged 74 Ballarat E -  John CORRELL and  Elizabeth unknown # 292

Regards
Alison

So no one else goes to the bother of following these people up, information can be seen on another thread which is now complete.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,510683.0.html

Alison  ;D
Title: Re: VIC bdm lookup - Alfred James & Henrietta QUARRELL
Post by: alison2763 on Friday 04 February 11 02:27 GMT (UK)
Some more on Henrietta  ;)
Minnie Henrietta QUARRELL { Camperdown} m  George Edward BARRY { b Woodend}  1905 # 8685
No issue I can see.

Interesting  ???
Ann Crawford SERWIN { b England} m  Robert Duncan WARTNABY { b London } 1886 # 2489
No issue

Elizabeth Alice QUARRELL { b London } m David RANDLE { b  Warwickshire } 1878 # 1129
5 children born at Pleasant Creek and Stawell from 1879-1888
I think you already know she was married to a HAWKER before this.

Is there anything else I can help you with ?
Regards
Alison
Title: Re: VIC bdm lookup - Alfred James & Henrietta QUARRELL
Post by: sparrett on Friday 04 February 11 03:31 GMT (UK)
Hi
Some more of the many QUARRELL burials at Ballarat Cemetery.

QUARRELL, Alfred James. Age 55. Miner. Date 8/5/1911. New Cemetery. WesB 10.30

QUARRELL, Emily. age 71. Widow. Date  24/10/1934. Same location

QUARRELL, Walter. age 3 months. DEate 30/1/1895. Same location

Emily and James lived at Pitfield.

There is MI

 Father and Mother, Alfred James Quarrell, died 5th May 1911 aged 55 years Emily Quarrell died 22nd October 1934 aged 71 years.


Sue

Title: Re: VIC bdm lookup - Alfred James & Henrietta QUARRELL
Post by: sparrett on Friday 04 February 11 06:47 GMT (UK)
 EMILY QUARRELL (nee BUTTERS) death


QUARRELL  Emily
Father Butters Alex
Mother Mary Ann  CHASTON
Place BALLT
Age 71
Year 1934
Reg  17569


I can see EMILY's parents deaths and the births of some siblings  to EMILY around Daylesford, but I can't quite see her birth in Vic.

Sue
Title: Re: VIC bdm lookup - Alfred James & Henrietta QUARRELL
Post by: ajf25 on Friday 04 February 11 21:56 GMT (UK)
Sorry not to respond; I've been at work trying to cope with huge storms and power surges.  The remnants of Cyclone Anthony (and he was the small one)  :-\

Some more on Henrietta  ;)
Minnie Henrietta QUARRELL { Camperdown} m  George Edward BARRY { b Woodend}  1905 # 8685
No issue I can see.

Interesting  ???
Ann Crawford SERWIN { b England} m  Robert Duncan WARTNABY { b London } 1886 # 2489
No issue

Elizabeth Alice QUARRELL { b London } m David RANDLE { b  Warwickshire } 1878 # 1129
5 children born at Pleasant Creek and Stawell from 1879-1888
I think you already know she was married to a HAWKER before this.

Is there anything else I can help you with ?
Regards
Alison

Ann Crawford had been married to a Carl Valdemar Theodore Serrurier - he died in a mining disaster, along with 21 other men at the Australasia mine in Creswick in Dec 1882.

Elizabeth Alice Quarrell is a first cousin to the Elizabeth Quarrell who married Pearcival Hawker.

Are there two Henrietta Quarrells?
An online tree has Henrietta Minnie b1873 m George Edward Barry as you, Sue and Alison have and has her dying in 1959 in Bairnsdale.
The tree also has a Henrietta born to Ann Crawford Quarrell possibly with an unnamed father b. c1870 and dying 1882 Creswick #11421

Now for another 100mls of rain today  :o

Where are my manners?  Thank you Sue and Alison and Sid.

Alison
Title: Re: VIC bdm lookup - Alfred James & Henrietta QUARRELL
Post by: ajf25 on Friday 04 February 11 22:09 GMT (UK)
Would someone be able to check this out please?

The same online tree has Alfred James Quarrell m. Martha Jane Mason 1883 #6628.

Alison  ???
Title: Re: VIC bdm lookup - Alfred James & Henrietta QUARRELL
Post by: sparrett on Friday 04 February 11 22:40 GMT (UK)
MASON Martha Jane
To Alfred QUARRY
Birth Place: CWOOD
Year 1883
Reg  6628

ALFRED QUARRY and MARTHA had children ubder the surname QUARRY. The second given name of James does not appear for ALFRED.

It is yet another reminder that online trees are often based on flimsy assumptions!

Sue
Title: Re: VIC bdm lookup - Alfred James & Henrietta QUARRELL
Post by: sparrett on Friday 04 February 11 22:53 GMT (UK)
Burial Details for HENRIETTA

BARRY, Henrietta . Date 21/12/1959.Aged 86 yrs. Address Mitchelll Street, Lucknow. Meth. Reop. (#3952)

With

#3952 =BARRY,George Edward. 8/8/1952. Aged 78 yrs.  Address Lucknow. Salesman.

Sue
Title: Re: VIC bdm lookup - Alfred James & Henrietta QUARRELL
Post by: sparrett on Friday 04 February 11 23:04 GMT (UK)

This is the birth referred to with correct year.

QUARRELL Minie Henrietta
Father U
Mother Ann Crawford QUARRELL
Place CRES
Year 1871
Reg  1954

Here again is the other .  The daughter of George and Sarah.



QUARRELL Henrietta
Father Geo
Mother Sarah CURRELL
Place CDOWN
Year 1873
Reg  22500


Sue
 

Title: Re: VIC bdm lookup - Alfred James & Henrietta QUARRELL
Post by: ajf25 on Friday 04 February 11 23:28 GMT (UK)
MASON Martha Jane
To Alfred QUARRY
Birth Place: CWOOD
Year 1883
Reg  6628

ALFRED QUARRY and MARTHA had children ubder the surname QUARRY. The second given name of James does not appear for ALFRED.

It is yet another reminder that online trees are often based on flimsy assumptions!

Sue

Thanks Sue,
Some people certainly take quantum leaps with information don't they?  :(

Alison

This is the birth referred to with correct year.

QUARRELL Minie Henrietta
Father U
Mother Ann Crawford QUARRELL
Place CRES
Year 1871
Reg  1954

Here again is the other .  The daughter of George and Sarah.

QUARRELL Henrietta
Father Geo
Mother Sarah CURRELL
Place CDOWN
Year 1873
Reg  22500

Sue
thanks for sorting the Henrietta's

Alison  :)
Title: Re: VIC bdm lookup - Alfred James & Henrietta QUARRELL
Post by: Camus on Wednesday 09 March 11 07:34 GMT (UK)
re Henrietta Quarrell

Henrietta Quarrell (re-named Serrurier) born 1871, Victoria, Australia to Ann Quarrell (daughter of George & Sarah Quarrell) and unknown father.

Ann married Carl Waldemar Theodore Serrurier (known as William) 3 January, 1871, Creswick in a Wesleyan ceremony. Ann & Carl (William) went on to have another seven children, the last one, Albert Edward Serrurier, being born after his father had died in the 1882 Mining Disaster at Creswick.

Henrietta Quarrell, now Henrietta Serrurier died in the same year aged 12. Widow Ann remarried in 1886 to miner Robert Duncan Wartnaby.

I am currently researching the Serrurier family. Their German and French lineage according to a family memoir in the 1880's goes back to General Serrurier, one of Napoleon's illustrious generals.

Hope this material is of some help.

Camus.
Title: Re: VIC bdm lookup - Alfred James & Henrietta QUARRELL
Post by: ajf25 on Wednesday 09 March 11 10:46 GMT (UK)
Thank you very much Camus,

I had most of that information, but you've added to the picture.  I love getting the little details.  :D

Good luck with your research.

Cheers,
Alison  ;D
Title: Re: VIC bdm lookup - Alfred James & Henrietta QUARRELL
Post by: judb on Thursday 10 March 11 06:18 GMT (UK)
PROV has digitised wills for these QUARRELLs

Emily d 1918
John d 1907
John d 1896
Pearson d 1892

http://www.prov.vic.gov.au/indexes/index_search.asp?searchid=54

Judith
Title: Re: VIC bdm lookup - Alfred James & Henrietta QUARRELL
Post by: ajf25 on Thursday 10 March 11 07:38 GMT (UK)
Thanks Judith,

I had the first three, but Pearson's was new to me.  Lots of information in there.

Cheers,
Alison  ;D
Title: Re: VIC bdm lookup - Alfred James & Henrietta QUARRELL
Post by: gypsyspirit on Wednesday 16 March 16 11:46 GMT (UK)
Would someone with the resources please look up the following?

Marriage/children and death of:

Alfred James Quarrell b. Dec qtr 1856, Islington, London of parents George and Sarah.

Arrived Melbourne on board the Parsee in May 1858.

and Henrietta Quarrell, b. Camperdown, VIC 1873 possibly to the same parents.

Regards,
Alison  :D
Title: Re: VIC bdm lookup - Alfred James & Henrietta QUARRELL
Post by: gypsyspirit on Wednesday 16 March 16 11:49 GMT (UK)
Hi
Mary Martha Helen Quarrell was my grandmother.
She was an adopted child in the Quarrell family.
This adoption was always known but the true parents are not known.
Mary married George Hawthorne Wells
if you would like more information on this part of the family tree please contact
Margaret
Title: Re: VIC bdm lookup - Alfred James & Henrietta QUARRELL
Post by: gypsyspirit on Friday 22 December 17 00:42 GMT (UK)
Emily Butters birth is recorded as Chaston as her mother was not married to Butters at the time.  It is also mis-transcribed.

Australian Birth Index 1788-1922.
Emily Chuston (should be Chaston) Abt 1862
Birthplace: Cays, Vic (should be Daylesford, Vic)
Father: Chuston (in fact was Butters)
Mother: Mary Chuston
Reg: 14086

Mary Martha Helen Quarrell was raised as the first child of Emily Butters and Alfred James Quarrell. Family stories suggested she may have been an adopted child in this family.
Recent DNA match analysis supports the fact that her biological mother was Emily Butters, but Alfred James Quarrell could not be her biological father.  Her biological father is likely to be a member of the Iles/Johnson family of Creswick.

Title: Re: VIC bdm lookup - Alfred James & Henrietta QUARRELL
Post by: cando on Friday 22 December 17 00:54 GMT (UK)
You appear to have taken your information from Ancestry indexes.

This is from my resource which is the same as the online Vic bdm's.  The information was transcribed from the registers and to be fair some of the writing is almost illegible.  It appears Emily was illegitimate.

Birth
CHUSTON Emily
Father Not recorded  Mother Mary CHUSTON
At Daylesford  1862  Reg#14086

You can also check the Vic BDM's yourself.
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/indexsearch.doj

Cando
Title: Re: VIC bdm lookup - Alfred James & Henrietta QUARRELL
Post by: gypsyspirit on Friday 22 December 17 01:02 GMT (UK)
Thank you for your clarification of the differences in records. We actually have the original birth record, but I do not wish to share that information in this forum, as the registry record is sufficient.  You are correct Emily was born out of wedlock.