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Title: WW2 National Fire Service records, where?
Post by: SUSANHORTON on Wednesday 09 February 11 23:01 GMT (UK)
I don't know if records still exist, but I am looking for NFS (national fire service) records for two "Horton" brothers living in Romford during WW2. These were fireman who already worked at a "full time job" but were also draughted for the fire service

Any ideas if they exist and where they might be.

Thanks

Sue
Title: Re: WW2 National Fire Service records, where?
Post by: t mo on Thursday 10 February 11 07:35 GMT (UK)
hello sue
you can try this site for records  www.london-fire.gov.uk/research.asp , also do a google search for london fire service records several sites look interesting and you may find more info there

best wishes
trevor
Title: Re: WW2 National Fire Service records, where?
Post by: Valda on Thursday 10 February 11 09:40 GMT (UK)
Hi

Romford is in the London borough of Havering formed in 1965. Before that it was in Essex. The National Fire Service records after the war were distributed to the various fire services across the country, so if they lived and worked in Romford their service records in theory would have gone to the Essex fire service.

London Fire Brigade
'During the Second World War, fire brigades were amalgamated into a single National Fire Service. The separate London Fire Brigade for the county of London was re-established in 1948. With the formation of Greater London in 1965, this absorbed most of the Middlesex Fire Brigade, the borough brigades for West Ham, East Ham and Croydon and parts of the Essex, Hertfordshire, Surrey and Kent brigades.'


You might need to try both Essex and London.

The Essex County Fire and Rescue website is less clear where fire officers records are held but the museum should know and would know about the fire service in Essex during the war.

http://www.essex-fire.gov.uk/pages/index.asp?area=48


Regards

Valda
Title: Re: WW2 National Fire Service records, where?
Post by: SUSANHORTON on Friday 11 February 11 22:00 GMT (UK)
Thank you all for your advice. I have just emailed Essex fire service via the web site given, so hopefuly I shall know more.

Sue
Title: Re: WW2 National Fire Service records, where?
Post by: colcourt on Thursday 30 April 15 18:08 BST (UK)
Hi Sue,
Have you had any luck with finding the records you were after as I now have a similar question about a man serving in Nazeing in Essex.
Hope you can help me.
 :)
Title: Re: WW2 National Fire Service records, where?
Post by: SUSANHORTON on Saturday 23 May 15 23:32 BST (UK)
Hi Sue,
Have you had any luck with finding the records you were after as I now have a similar question about a man serving in Nazeing in Essex.
Hope you can help me.
 :)

No luck I have found a museum in Grays but they dont have personal records.
Title: Re: WW2 National Fire Service records, where?
Post by: davefrost on Wednesday 09 January 19 16:32 GMT (UK)
Hi Sue

I am looking for similar info, my father & uncle both served in the NFS in WW2, were any records available?
Title: Re: WW2 National Fire Service records, where?
Post by: SUSANHORTON on Wednesday 09 January 19 16:42 GMT (UK)
Hi Sue

I am looking for similar info, my father & uncle both served in the NFS in WW2, were any records available?

I haven't found anything sadly although haven't tried national archives yet.
Title: Re: WW2 National Fire Service records, where?
Post by: BushInn1746 on Wednesday 09 January 19 19:24 GMT (UK)
Hello

If you have tried the County Fire Service / Fire Brigade HQ.

Some stations also hung on to their records and there was not always systematic record keeping.

When Coastguard, Observer Corps, Posts / Fire Stations closed, Officers interested in those activities took some home, which in effect saved them, but in private hands. Some of these have found their way into archives, but got split up from any main collections (that were saved).

Try County and City Archives. Check if advance permission is required to see records.

Named people also appear in Fire Brigade day to day records, during WW 2.

For Wartime incidents (which may name Officers involved) see Occurrence Books or Fire Committee; War Committee; Emergency Planning and ARP Committee records, Unexploded bombs, Log Books etc.

Example of Personnel Record Cards released by Bedfordshire in 1995 to the Bedfordshire County Archives, back to 1941.

Fire Service Personnel
Record Cards (Bedfordshire - part?)
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/88211ef7-17ba-4718-9dbe-11ab2fb99a74
(Held Bedfordshire Archives)

"National Fire" search 1941 to 1945
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r/4?_ep=National%20Fire&_dss=range&_sd=1941&_ed=1945&_ro=any&_hb=tna&_st=adv


Try the relevant County Archives / City Archives etc

Mark