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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Kilkenny => Topic started by: WATTERS2831 on Friday 11 February 11 17:29 GMT (UK)
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i have recently discovered that my ancestor may have been born in Ballyhale Co. KIlkenny around 1846 although some of the later UK census have him born in 1849. His name was Patrick Devereux although it could well of been spelt with an 'a' he was the son of James (b.1817) and Jane Rogers(b.1825) can abybody give me any more info on the family or can suggest somewhere i can find out more
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Since Patrick was born before the start of civil registration in Ireland, you will need to check to see what parish records are available for the area.
Do you know the family religion ?
See : Introduction to Irish Records (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html)
Shane
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Roman Catholic
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RC records for Ballyhale on www.rootsireland.ie. This is a pay to view site but searching is free.
There is a record of a Patrick Devereux born to James & Mary Rogers in Ballyhale in 1846.
There was also
Catherine 1849
Margaret 1951
James 1855
all born to James Devereux & Jane Rogers. It will cost you €5 each to view these records which will give you sponsor's names & may give you a more accurate townland address.
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So Catherine , Margaret and James were all born in Ballyhale too?
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Hi, did your patrick devereaux marry anastasia ryan in ballytobin, i cant find any info on this patrick, i don't even know where he was born, or his parents names... can anyone help?
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No Patrick married Mary Lanty in Accrington Lancashire in 1867
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Only got a handful of photo's from St Kierans cemetery in Kilkenny itself, and the below was one.
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Jack
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Did you manage to find out anything further concerning Patrick Devereux and his siblings or parents? His marriage certificate makes no mention of whether his father was alive or deceased.
There was also a James Devereux married to Jane (possibly Raftis) living in Accrington at the time of the marriage, their older children being born in Ireland. A child of one of these Jameses, Kieran/Kearn was also born in c 1846 in the same village as Patrick - I have yet to determine the connection and hope you may be able to help.
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Did you manage to find out anything further concerning Patrick Devereux and his siblings or parents? His marriage certificate makes no mention of whether his father was alive or deceased.
There was also a James Devereux married to Jane (possibly Raftis) living in Accrington at the time of the marriage, their older children being born in Ireland. A child of one of these Jameses, Kieran/Kearn was also born in c 1846 in the same village as Patrick - I have yet to determine the connection and hope you may be able to help.
Yes , Patrick and Kearn were brothers , there were also 9 other siblings , children of James and Jane , the first 9 were born in Ireland the last 2 in Accrington lancashire 1862 and 1864 so they must have come to England sometime between 1860-1862
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Thanks for repling so quickly. The reason I am confused is that the note posted in answer to your original question has James and Mary Rogers as the parents of Patrick, Catherine, Margaret and James.
Was Rogers the maiden name of Jane, married to James of Accrington - ie are they the same couple of the Irish records? I have nine children 'allocated' to James and Janebut this does not include Patrick and Catherine. Do you have any information concerning Catherine, born 1849?
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Yes dont know where that confusion comes from James definately married Jane Rogers and Patrick married Mary Lanty , Catherine Devereaux was born in Ireland in 1849 , married Bernard Farrington in Blackburn in 1868 had 5 children the first born in Bacup in 1870 the next 2 were also born in Bacup , the 4th born in Todmorden and the 5th in Oldham , Catherine died in Rochdale in 1878
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Thank you for that information - the Catherine (same age as yours) I am looking for also came over in c 1860 but her father must have been a different James. However, I do know that there was a family connection between her and the Accrington lot - just what it was, I have yet to find out!
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keep searching , the answer will be there , even if you have to re-examine your info , dates of birth , mothers maiden names , a father who used different first names all these are possiblilites , i had all sorts of trouble with the spelling of the surname, amongst my tree there were 3 different spellings on B/M/D records
Devereaux , Devereux and Deveraux
good luck
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Hi,
It was interesting to come across this thread. My Grandpa's dad was called Patrick and I know Patrick (what would be my Great Grandpa) had a brother called Kearn. My Grandpa was an only child. We are based in Lancashire.
Would be interested to hear more :)
Best