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Title: Charles Billingsley 1861 - 1871 - 1891
Post by: bobtonks on Thursday 17 February 11 12:26 GMT (UK)
Charles Billingsley lived in Packwoood Warwick with the Wareham family in the 1881 census. His age is 20, his birthplace is given as Brewood Stafford and his occupation Blacksmith Apprentice.

Can anyone see him in the 1861, 1871 or 1891 census?
Title: Re: Charles Billingsley 1861 - 1871 - 1891
Post by: lizdb on Thursday 17 February 11 12:29 GMT (UK)
With the Warehams in 1871
RG10 3191 39 19

do you need the details, or do you have access?
Title: Re: Charles Billingsley 1861 - 1871 - 1891
Post by: lizdb on Thursday 17 February 11 12:36 GMT (UK)
1861
RG9 1981 4 1

age ?mths, maybe 10
born george? living in Brewood

Parents William and Mary. Several older siblings, next one up age 10. Either a little late 'surprise' for Wm and MAry, or actually a grandchild .....

Again, do shout if you want the full works
Title: Re: Charles Billingsley 1861 - 1871 - 1891
Post by: bobtonks on Thursday 17 February 11 12:44 GMT (UK)
Liz

Thanks for that. The full details would be nice, thank you. I did wonder if Ann Wareham (1881) was his mother.

Bob
Title: Re: Charles Billingsley 1861 - 1871 - 1891
Post by: lizdb on Thursday 17 February 11 12:58 GMT (UK)
1871
RG10 3191 39 19
Hockley, Tamworth
Joseph Wareham 45 Ag lab bn Tamworth
Anne 35 wife bn Codsale??
Charles S Billingley 10 bn Coren? Forge?
Hannah Wareham dtr 9mths bn Tamworth

no relationship given for Charles, column is blank

1861
RG9 1981 4 1
Gorge (or George) , Brewood, Staffs
William Billingsley 55 groom labourer bn Staffordshire
Mary 45 wife bn Staffordshire
Mary 21 dtr housekeeper bn George
Lucy 15 dtr bn George
William 10 son bn George
Charles S son 10 mths bn George
Francis Bore? (very unclear) visitor

I treid to find Joseph and Anne Warehams marriage, thinknig like you that maybe Anne was nee Billingsley and thus an older child of Wm and Mary. But no success there.
But maybe he was a late child of WM and MAry as it says.
Need to get his birth cert, I guess, to find out!
Title: Re: Charles Billingsley 1861 - 1871 - 1891
Post by: lizdb on Thursday 17 February 11 13:06 GMT (UK)
No child Ann in ealrier census

1851
HO107 2016 312 13
Coven Rd, Brewood
Willam 30 Ag lab bn Shropshire
Mary 35 bn Codsall, Staffs
Emma 13
Mary 11
Harriet 8
Lucy 6
William 1 week  all children bn Brewood
Title: Re: Charles Billingsley 1861 - 1871 - 1891
Post by: bobtonks on Thursday 17 February 11 13:48 GMT (UK)
Liz

Thanks for your help.  A Charles Stanley Billingsley is listed in Freebmd Penkridge 6b 378 June 1868. so I will order that and then we may know who his mother was. AND maybe his father.

Bob
Title: Re: Charles Billingsley 1861 - 1871 - 1891
Post by: lizdb on Thursday 17 February 11 14:16 GMT (UK)
1868?

He was 10mths in 1861, 10 yrs in 1871 .....

Ahh just checked the index . It is actually 1860, so looks good
Title: Re: Charles Billingsley 1861 - 1871 - 1891
Post by: bobtonks on Thursday 17 February 11 18:34 GMT (UK)
Liz

Yes you are correct. - 1860

I found  Joseph Warham married Ann Billingsly 24th Oct 1868 in Ashted Warwick. (Familysearch) So it looks as if young Charles was conceived on the wrong side of the sheets.

Bob
Title: Re: Charles Billingsley 1861 - 1871 - 1891
Post by: cam wareham on Saturday 23 September 17 16:53 BST (UK)
Charles was my Gt grandfather, eventually moving to New Zealand 1891.
His mother was Anne Billingsley, father was Joseph or Charles Joseph. We do not know whether he was illegitimate or indeed just adopted within the Wareham family as he appeared first as Charles billingsley.

In likelihood, Joseph was his father. Unfortunately we don't know a great deal about Joseph. If anyone does have information, it would be great to make contact.

Thanks

Cam Wareham