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Title: BECKETT ST CEMETERY infant deaths?
Post by: lizmik on Saturday 26 February 11 15:58 GMT (UK)
I have been told Cholera victims were buried in Beckett St Cemetery.I have 3 missing Tolson relatives,all infants,one died 1850 age 3 months,2nd died at 8 months and 3rd at 14 months old.I don't have names but mother was Annie Tolson nee Gibson,father was Benjamin Tolson.They were living in Hunslet Leeds 1850-1855. Is there any way to find their names so I can continue with my research
Title: Re: BECKETT ST CEMETERY infant deaths?
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 26 February 11 17:38 GMT (UK)
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

If you don't know their names - where did you get the information about their ages when they died?

Have you checked freebmd for likely entries?  The problem with deaths prior to the mid-1860's is that the GRO index does not show the age when they died.  This makes it difficult to determine the right entiy if there is more than one possibility

Apart from 1850 - what years did the others die?   

www.freebmd.org.uk
Title: Re: BECKETT ST CEMETERY infant deaths?
Post by: lizmik on Saturday 26 February 11 17:52 GMT (UK)
Hi,Thanks for your reply
I have a copy of my Gt Gt Grandmother's autobiography "Annie,the drunkard's daughter,being a faithful account of the life,experience & labours of Annie Tolson the Yorkshire & lancashire Revivalist" published in 1867; She mentions the deaths of 4 children and their ages,but only names one,a son Redan b.18/10/1855 when she had moved to Liverpool;he died there in 1857.I thought it strange not to mention the names of the others,All she said was they were all girls.
Title: Re: BECKETT ST CEMETERY infant deaths?
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 26 February 11 18:04 GMT (UK)
Per freebmd

Births December qtr 1855   
Redan Tolson  West Derby  8b 248

Deaths March qtr 1857   
Redan Tolson    West Derby  8b 251

 
Title: Re: BECKETT ST CEMETERY infant deaths?
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 26 February 11 18:06 GMT (UK)
Reply removed - wrong info
Title: Re: BECKETT ST CEMETERY infant deaths?
Post by: madri on Saturday 26 February 11 18:08 GMT (UK)
Hello Liz.    I have checked Beckett Street Cemetery.  There are a couple of Tolsons but not sure they are yours.  Is the unmarried Benjamin Tolson on 1851 Census yours?  If he is then these children cannot be yours.  These are the only 2 children in your time frame that are buried at Beckett Street.

Emma Tolson / 3yrs / died 1852
Robert Tolson / 4 yrs / died 1852

Madri


  
Title: Re: BECKETT ST CEMETERY infant deaths?
Post by: madri on Saturday 26 February 11 18:18 GMT (UK)
Liz, meant to say those checks I did above were for the Municipal Registers.  I have finished checking the Parish Registers (as transcribed so far) and there is 1 entry.

Anne Elizabeth Tolson of Cankerwell Lane, Leeds, buried 30 Sep 1855 age 1, St Mark Woodhouse


Madri
Title: Re: BECKETT ST CEMETERY infant deaths?
Post by: lizmik on Saturday 26 February 11 18:28 GMT (UK)
Ben is married & on 1851 Census with wife Annie,Hunslet St Mary Parish,he is 25 & she is 21,no children mentioned
Title: Re: BECKETT ST CEMETERY infant deaths?
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 26 February 11 18:29 GMT (UK)
Lizmik - just a cautionary note.  There were a number of Tolson families living in Leeds in 1851 and a couple in Hunslet

You need to investigate further to determine if any of the children above are the right ones - the ages you gave in your opening post do not match these entries

Ann Elizabeth's birth was registered in the June qtr 1854 in Dewsbury so she was born prior to 30.6.1854.  Burial 30.9.1855 makes her over 14mths which was the oldest age at death
Title: Re: BECKETT ST CEMETERY infant deaths?
Post by: madri on Saturday 26 February 11 18:43 GMT (UK)
Liz, unless I am mistaken, you have already been given all the details of those children on YorkshireIndexers - or did you forget to go back and check??  They are buried in Hunslet

Madri

Title: Re: BECKETT ST CEMETERY infant deaths?
Post by: madri on Saturday 26 February 11 18:51 GMT (UK)
Liz/Carole

quote:
Hi Liz,
Welcome to YI.

Hunslet Cemetery burials.

Emily Tolson dau of Benjamin buried 20th January 1850 aged 3 months. Grave number 4205 general section

Louisa Tolson dau of Benjamin buried 28th December 1851 aged 7 months. Grave number 4191 general section.

Angelina Tolson dau of Benjamin buried 18th March 1854 aged 1 year. Grave number 4321 general section.

Their ages meaning that they were 'outside' the census date for 1851. (The United Kingdom Census of 1851 recorded the people residing in every household on the night of 30 March 1851)
Gordon
unquote

Madri
Title: Re: BECKETT ST CEMETERY infant deaths?
Post by: lizmik on Saturday 26 February 11 19:08 GMT (UK)
Brilliant,thanks so much,didn't get that info so must be a glitch somewhere
Title: Re: BECKETT ST CEMETERY infant deaths?
Post by: madri on Saturday 26 February 11 19:18 GMT (UK)
Liz, if you log  into Yorkshireindexers, its there on the forum.  Your enquiry and answers - you could at least thank them.

Madri
Title: Re: BECKETT ST CEMETERY infant deaths?
Post by: lizmik on Sunday 27 February 11 16:36 GMT (UK)
Already did,thanks Madri,couldn't log in to get replies but its sorted now
Cheers
Title: Re: BECKETT ST CEMETERY infant deaths?
Post by: lizmik on Saturday 25 July 15 14:15 BST (UK)
I have just found another child,Theophilus John E Tolson,born May 1868,Oldham Lancashire; died around August 1868 age 3 months.This information was from Annie Tolson's autubiography;she does not state where the child was buried but 3 of her other children are in Hunslet cemetery,is it possible to check if he is there? I have checked Toxteth Cemetery records as another son is listed there (Redan Tolson d.1857) but no trace of Theophilus.