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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Kildare => Topic started by: heartman48 on Tuesday 01 March 11 01:16 GMT (UK)
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I am seeking information about Thomas P and Mary Dunne Coughlan, parents of Margaret Mary Coughlan, Monasterevin, Co. Kildare born 28/2/1881. Thomas was a lock keeper. Margaret Mary emigrated to NYC, USA ca 1899. Had a sister named Catherine. Margaret Mary is my grandmother.
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This looks like the best match for a birth for Margaret on the BMD Index :
Name: Margaret Coughlan
Registration district: Athy
Event type: Birth
Quarter and year: Jan-Mar 1881
Volume : 3/ Page : 348
The town of Monastrevin is in the civil registration district of Athy.
A birth cert would give you more details to allow you check if this is the correct record, such as date & place of birth, father's name and occupation, mother's maiden name etc, and may assist starting a searching further back - e.g for her parents marriage.
see :
Introduction to Irish Records (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html)
Ordering Certs from GRO Roscommon (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433040.0.html)
Details included on a Birth Cert (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433041.0.html)
Shane
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Margaret and possible siblings from an extracted record collection on familysearch :
Eliza Coughlan / 04 Nov 1870 / Monastrevan / Ref. 421 (page number in register)
Mary Coughlan / 01 Mar 1872 / Co. Kildare
Anne Coughlan / 20 Nov 1873 / Monasterevan, Co. Kildare
Margret Coughlan / 28 Feb 1881 / Coolnefera, Co. Kildare
Parents names for the above - Thomas Coughlan and Mary Dunne
Shane
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"Coughlans Lock" is a well known lock gate in Monasterevin its where the Mountmellick branch of the Grand Canal ends,and there are still members of the Coughlan family still living at the lock..not sure if you were already aware of this or not.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000900489/
Here is the record of Thomas + Jane in the 1901 Census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002558632/
And again in 1911..appears that Thomas was born in Co. Offaly (Kings County)
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&familyname=&firstname=&offset=20&countyname=&parishname=&parishname&unionname=&baronyname=&totalrows=49&PlaceID=628457&wildcard=
And here in the Griffiths Valuations printed 1852 we see a John Coughlin in Coolnafearagh working for the Grand Canal
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a possible marriage reference for Thomas and Mary from the BMD INdex :
Name Thomas Coghlan
Registration district: Athy
Event type: Marriage
Year: 1869
Volume : 18 / Page : 318
name: Mary Dunne
[same index details as Thomas]
Shane
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http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipmanifest.asp?MID=08172726160927489728&LNM=COUGHLAN&PLNM=COUGHLAN&CGD=F&bSYR=1879&bEYR=1883&first_kind=1&last_kind=0&TOWN=null&SHIP=null&RF=55&pID=602585020095
Cant be sure this is related to you but heres a Mary and Katie Coughlin arriving in NY IN 1898 ,looks like they were going to their sister Annie.
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup_weif_5a.asp?src=%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Ftif2gif%2Eexe%3FT%3D%5C%5C%5C%5C192%2E168%2E100%2E11%5C%5CIMAGES%5C%5CT715%2D0055%5C%5CT715%2D00550527%2ETIF%26S%3D%2E5&pID=603026060327&name=Maggie%26nbsp%3BCoughlin&doa=Apr+13%2C+1899&port=Queenstown&line=0027
A record for a Maggie Coughlin from Monasterevin arriving in Ny in 1899 going to stay with her sister.
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup_weif_5a.asp?src=%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Ftif2gif%2Eexe%3FT%3D%5C%5C%5C%5C192%2E168%2E100%2E11%5C%5CIMAGES%5C%5CT715%2D0640%5C%5CT715%2D06400620%2ETIF%26S%3D%2E5&pID=102474020663&name=Kate%26nbsp%3BCoughlan&doa=Nov+10%2C+1905&port=Queenstown&line=0002
A record for Katie coming back into the US in 1905 and going to stay with her sister Margaret.
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http://irishwaterwayshistory.com/abandoned-or-little-used-irish-waterways/the-grand-canal/the-mountmellick-line-of-the-grand-canal/
There a picture here of the now derelict lock with the lockkeepers house just out of site in the right of the picture.
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To PatB71 - Thank you. The Mary/Kate link would not be my grandmother as she went by the name Maggie and never lived in Brooklyn, NY. The age does not match up. Thomas & Jane is a possibility if my great grandmother, MAry Dunne Coughlan died and Thomas remarried. I don't now. Thanks for the information about Coughlans Lock.
To shanew147 - also thank you. I am not familiar with the BMD index or familysearch, but will look them up. I have an application completed for a birth record for Margaret Mary.
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http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#collection=fs%3A1325221&givenName=Margaret&searchType=exact&surname=Coughlan&p=recordResults
Hi Tom,
I think this is possibly the record of your grandmother in the 1900 census ..all the figures seem to match up..
As for the other record I sent you of Mary and Katie(Catherine? I believe they may be Margarets sisters going to their other sister Anne.
Saw ur posts on Genforum ..sorry to hear you didn`t get much info in Monasterevin when u came over ,would love to have helped being a local myself.
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PatB71 - I can't thank you enough for your efforts. This may be my grandmother since I can find no other Margaret or Maggie Coughlan coming to the States in 1899. The birth date in the census does not match up according to our family records and my grandmother's obituary, but that could be some sort of clerical record. I've had another contact also suggest her birth record in Ireland shows Dec. 1880. This detective work is new to me and quite fun. Thanks again. Tom White
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My great-grandmother, Bridget Coughlan, was born 1847 in the lock house. House is occupied by same family, now 5th generation. Father was John Coughlan; mother ?Mary? Bridget could have been sister to Thomas.
The lock house was near the Laois border. She married Michael foster in 1864 in the (now beautifully preserved) St Michael's RC church in Monastereven. They lived in Lea Portarlington laois and had 13 children, several of whom lived in/around New Haven, CT.
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My brother was researching the derelict lock house at Stacumny (Paynes Lock House) and found that the minute books for the Grand Canal are stored in the National Archives,and was able to document the occupants of same through these,the same may apply to your family's lock house.
These books start in mid to late 1700s and record all sort of incidents on the canal,contracts for horses,fines for late barges ,prosecutions for fishing etc,but takes a great deal of research if you have the time and patience.
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Go raibh mile maith agat, Daithi. Those records sound like a treasure trove of info. I'd hope to schedule a visit to the Archives on a future trip to Ireland.
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Hi. I have just started researching the family tree - today actually!! It seems Michael and Bridget may be my great great grandparents.
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possible Mary Dunne Coughlan died 1883
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/b974c315168999
Thomas then a widower married Jane Culbert in 1884
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1884/10893/5978874.pdf
possible family for Jane
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kildare/Monasterevin/Canal_Street/538391/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kildare/Monasterevan/Canal_Harbour/1435590/
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ip1/