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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Tyrone => Topic started by: Bruce on Wednesday 20 April 05 11:57 BST (UK)
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I have a photo of this place taken early 1900s. Can anyone tell me what it is and where it is? Does anyone know what connection it has to the Alexander family of Dromore?
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I have a photo of this place taken early 1900s. Can anyone tell me what it is and where it is? Does anyone know what connection it has to the Alexander family of Dromore?
Hiya Bruce,
Would it be possible to post the photo of Dromore Rectory on the board so that we may have a look at it. Since it is called a Rectory I presume it is where the Anglican (Church of Ireland) rector and his family lived. Rectories are usually situated close to the Church. Dromore, Co. Tyrone, is in the Diocese of Clogher http://clogher.anglican.org/index.php?p=parishes2.
As a matter of interest do you know more about the Alexander family of Dromore?
I found a few members of the family in Griffiths Valuation of Ireland which took place in the county in 1851.
Best Wishes, Chris
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Hello, Chris
See attached photos.
My wife's ALEXANDER ancestors descend from Thomas Alexander (b. 1764, d. 1860), son of Thomas Alexander & Mary Osborne. His son, also Thomas (b. 1820, d. 1889) married a Sarah Jane Houston of Ballinhatty (his 2nd marriage) in 1851. I believe all children from that marriage were born in Dromore, Tyrone.
One son, James Alexander (b. c1857, d. 1938) immigrated to Australia, around 1876. He is my wife's great grandfather.
My wife & I saw the Rectory in September last year. It is now a private home. We have since found out that James's sister Rebecca married the rector.
Do you have any further information on the ALEXANDERS of Dromore?
Regards,
Bruce (Melbourne, Australia)
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Thanks for that photo of my childhood home! It has changed quite a bit in the last 100 years by the look of that photo.
The rectory (or Old Rectory as it is now, having been replaced by a new one over 30 years ago) is located in the village of Dromore, Co. Tyrone directly opposite the Anglican (Church of Ireland) Church - Holy Trinity Parish Church.
If you have any other photos of this property I'd be dleighted to see them. Thanks.
Michael
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Thanks for that photo of my childhood home! It has changed quite a bit in the last 100 years by the look of that photo.
The rectory (or Old Rectory as it is now, having been replaced by a new one over 30 years ago) is located in the village of Dromore, Co. Tyrone directly opposite the Anglican (Church of Ireland) Church - Holy Trinity Parish Church.
If you have any other photos of this property I'd be dleighted to see them. Thanks.
Michael
Ooops that was me. I've no idea how I managed to post from someone else's account! Just to add I can confirm it is indeed a private house, or in fact more accurately two houses.
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Hi Bruce
I Was browsing and chanced on this old photograph of The Old Rectory in Dromore County Tyrone. I must say I am very excited about the photograph as it shows how the property looked in its original form. I am the current resident of one half of the old rectory having purchased it some seventeen years ago. I have lived in Dromore all my life and I have quite a bit of history on the Rectory. I have also in my posession a 5ft x 3ft oil portrait of the original incumbant the Rev Henry Lucas St George who organised the building of the Rectory around 1836. I would be keen to learn of your links with Dromore and if there is anything you would like to know about the Old Rectory then please feel free to contact me and I will be happy to share any information that I have.
Regards
Gerald
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Hello Gerald,
It was good to hear from you especially as you are living in the house that I think my wife’s great great aunt – Rebecca (Raby) who married a Jack Davis- lived in for many years. When we visited Dromore in 2005 we spoke to Mrs. Crozier who was very elderly but could remember Mrs. Davis who died in the 1930s. We also spoke to one of the sons of the late Sara Alexander Roberta (Osborne) Kenwall who is distantly related and his wife. We visited the Salt and Pepper Café as this purportedly, was once the draper’s shop that my wife’s g g grandfather, Thomas Alexander, owned. He had many children, one of whom was James, my wife’s great grandfather, who came out to Australia in the 1870s. His daughters (my wife’s great aunts) had visited some of their cousins (the Buchanans – Martha and Mary) back in the 1960s and always spoke warmly of Dromore.
It was one of these great aunts who kept all things to do with the family who had these photos. They were signed by ‘Jack’ and addressed to James Alexander and Charles Woods. ‘Jack’ could be Rebecca’s husband (Jack Davis) or a nick name for John Houston Alexander the brother of James Alexander and brother-in-law of Charles Woods. (John married Margaret Woods.)
Quite a few Alexanders are buried in the new cemetery as well as in the old one. Due to time constraints and an elderly father-in-law (grandson of James, above) who was with us, we had difficulty working out the wording of an Alexander memorial in the old church cemetery on the hill. If you happen to come across it and are able to record what it says we would be most appreciative. Maybe it is even written down somewhere in a local historical archive perhaps. Any history of what happened to Thomas and the drapery business would also be interesting. Actually, any information about Dromore and its inhabitants would be useful.
Many thanks,
Bruce.
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Weren't the Alexanders of Dromore connected to the Alexander, Earls of Caledon? PRONI has reference to a number of leases issued by James Alexander, Earl of Caledon at Dromore.
There were Dromore natives who were neighbors of my immigrant ancestor here in the Province of New Brunswick, Canada. The surnames were Gibson, McFarlane, Rutledge and McCarron.
Peter
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Hi Bruce
Nice to talk to you, and thanks for your reply. Having been born in 1960 I personally have no recollection of any Alexander’s from Dromore, however I will endeavour through my relatives to find out anything that I can for you and I will keep you posted.
My late Father-in-Law who passed away some ten years ago had a wonderful knowledge regarding the history of Dromore and over the years he was always giving me bits and pieces of memorabilia. I am absolutely certain that he gave me a “Bill Head” from Thomas Alexander’s Draper Shop in Dromore. I think I may have slipped it inside one of my many books. I have spent the past three hours searching for it and I just cannot locate it. I will keep searching and when I do locate it, and it is indeed from Thomas Alexander’s Draper shop then I will be delighted to send it to you. I have also another item in my possession that you may be able to shed some light on, and indeed it may be of interest to you. It is a small leather bound Bible and the inscription on the inside reads. “To Osborne Alexander with his Mother’s Blessing 30/6/1877” Do you know who Osborne Alexander was and is he a relative of your Wife?
I will talk to you again soon.
Regards
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Peter
There are two Dromore's in Northern Ireland and I am wondering if the Dromore you refer to is the Dromore in County Down?
Regards
Gerald
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Grm: No. Dromore, County Tyrone is specifically stated.
Peter
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There are two Dromore's in Northern Ireland and I am wondering if the Dromore you refer to is the Dromore in County Down?
Co. Antrim- 2 townlands named Dromore
Co. Down- 1 town, 1 townland
Co. Fermanagh- 3 townlands and also Dromore Big + Dromore Little
Co.Londonderry- 4 townlands
Co.Tyrone- town, 3 townlands and Dromore Lower, Dromore Middle + Dromore Upper
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Hi I'm also related to the Alexanders mentioned James was my grandfather & his brother was Osborne,& you have his bible,funny thing the inscription is exactly the same as the one for his brother James(which my cousin has)
Kim
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This is for grm. My husband's great-grandfather was the coachman to Henry Lucas St. George at the Rectory in Dromore. Would it be possible to see a photo of the oil portrait you have of him? Also, are there any pictures from that period that might show the coachman. We don't have any photographs or images of him--he lived from about 1832 to 1920.
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Hi sekm
Would you have a name for your Husbands Great Grandfather, and was he a native of Dromore? Unfortunately I dont have any pictures from that period that would show the coachman. The Rev Henry Lucas St George came to Dromore around 1834. I have attached a photograph of the oil portrait that I have.
Regards
Gerald
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Hi Gerald,
The name of my husband's great-grandfather who was coachman to Rev. Henry Lucas St. George was William Marshall. As far as I know, he was from Dromore. We think he was married to Elizabeth Mosgrove. I wish we had more information about him.
Thanks so much for sending the picture. The Reverend looks like a very distinguished man.
I have a story about the Rev. Jack Davis. My husband's father, also named William Marshall, was about age 13 when he drove the Rev. Davis around, first in horse-drawn carriage, while making his house calls. Davis used to get a shot of whiskey at each stop and became more merry at each stop. He used to sing to the clip clop of the horses, “The Orange Tree”: When William came to England, the King of it to be, he brought a branch along with him of the old Orange Tree. When William came to Ireland, the Protestants to join, he brought the branch along with him and set it at the Boyne.
Regards,
Susan
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Hi Bruce
I have lived in Dromore all my life and I have quite a bit of history on the Rectory. I have also in my posession a 5ft x 3ft oil portrait of the original incumbant the Rev Henry Lucas St George who organised the building of the Rectory around 1836.
Regards
Gerald
Gerald,
Hello. I would appreciate information on the rectory and Henry Lucas St. George. My ancestral research has hit a wall and I am trying other leads. I have a bible that belonged to my second great grand uncle signed by Henry Lucas St. George dated September 1849.
Thanks,
Vince
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Alexander, Ed 110636951
b. 1679 d. Dec. 12, 1712 Dromore Old Graveyard
Dromore
County Tyrone
Northern Ireland
Alexander, Eliz?? 110638209
b. unknown d. Jan. 2, 1621 Dromore Old Graveyard
Dromore
County Tyrone
Northern Ireland
Alexander, James 111672555
b. unknown d. Jun. 21, 1813 Dromore Old Graveyard
Dromore
County Tyrone
Northern Ireland
Alexander, John 110979486
b. unknown d. unknown Dromore Old Graveyard
Dromore
County Tyrone
Northern Ireland
Alexander, Mary 111672902
b. unknown d. Jan. 31, 1810 Dromore Old Graveyard
Dromore
County Tyrone
Northern Ireland
Alexander, Robert 110637487
b. 1832 d. Oct. 6, 1908 Dromore Old Graveyard
Dromore
County Tyrone
Northern Ireland
All on findagrave.com some with photos and the inscriptions, hope this is of some help.
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Just an interesting anecdote FYI. My husband's great grandfather James Sproule came to Australia from Grennan in 1854 with his father James and older brother George. James, George and their brother Wallace had lived with the Rev St George and his family for a few years after their mother (Ann Irvine) died and while their father James "was getting his act together" before migration. In recognition of the Reverend's kindness, James gave all of his 8 children the middle name "St George" and that has been carried on for many generations. My husband has it, as does son Sam and our grandchildren. Great to be able to see a picture of him on this forum.
Thanks, Jo from Melbourne
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Hi Jo
I was very interested in your post as your James Sproule snr was a brother to my husband's gt gt grandmother Jane Sproule who married James Alexander. Two of her brothers John and Hugh Sproule also came to NSW and they all settled in the Kiama area. I didn't know that James had also emigrated. Are you interested in exchanging information?
Regards
Kerrie
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Hi Kerrie - you should be able to see my public tree (It's called Tatchell Summons) on Ancestry - look for James Sproule 1809 - 1884. I have his brothers John and Hugh in the tree as well although there is unlikely o be much there that you do not already know. I would love to hear about new info though. Have you seen Kate Tammemagi's Sproule website? - she's a researcher in Ireland with some great stuff - see http://sproulegenealogy.blogspot.ie/. Cheers, Jo
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Hi Jo
Thanks for directing me to your family tree. You have so much more than I do on the Sproule's and it's rather odd to see pages I wrote & photos I took for a book nearly 40 years ago have made their way onto different researchers Ancestry trees.
I have seen the website you mentioned and agree she has done some great stuff.
Regards
Kerrie
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This is for Vince who wrote - I would appreciate information on the rectory and Henry Lucas St. George. My ancestral research has hit a wall and I am trying other leads. I have a bible that belonged to my second great grand uncle signed by Henry Lucas St. George dated September 1849"
I have a bit of information on the Rev. Henry Lucas St. George's son by the same name. His family came to Canada. Contact me if you wish to chat.
Carol Simmons
Ontario, Canada