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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Vilma on Thursday 03 March 11 17:38 GMT (UK)
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Is there a site showing travel between England and Australia between 1841 and 1843 and also between Australia and England between 1844 and 1849?
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Hi Vilma,
Do you mean passenger lists? Or just ship arrivals and departures?
There are plenty of resources for both listed in the Australia Resources board:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,399.0.html
If you are looking for something specific, let us know and we can probably help you more :)
Cheers
Prue
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If it involves a person who was transported the details are widely shown on a variety of Australian Family History sites. Don't ask how I know this ;)
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I am trying to find when and why Elizabeth C. Gent went to Australia. She was shown as being in Suffolk at the time of the 1841c and then shows as having married Charles Usher Jones in Sydney, NSW in 1843. In 1844 they had a son, Charles Jones. In the 1851c she is shown as a widow back in England with son Charles and another son, Robert William born in Suffolk in 1849.
I would like to know what happened to her husband Charles Usher Jones and when she returned to England
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Why not check to see if she was transported for seven years between 1841 and 1843? If she was given a ticket of leave she could have married in Sydney at the time stated, and been free to return later, if she could raise the fare.
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Thank you Redroger, I will try that.
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Hi Vilma :)
I've had a look on a few databases but I can't see her as either a free immigrant (assisted or unassisted) or a convict.
I wonder whether she followed her lover out here, then when he died, returned home to England with her children? I have the exact same scenario in my family - young woman came out here, married, had two children, then when her husband died she returned to England pretty much straight away.
If your lady came here unassisted (i.e. paid her own fare) the records are very haphazard and she may not appear on any passenger list, or she might be just "Miss Gent".
Cheers
Prue
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Hi Vilma, I have been looking at the BMD for NSW in that period, I Have a marriage for Charles and Elizabethin 1843. I also can find no death for Charles before 1851.
Strangely I have children born to them from 1844 Charles,1847 Mary,1850 Charles, 1853 George and 1862 Elizabeth. Elizabeth appears to have died in 1864.
I believe you have two possibilities they married outside NSW, second you have the wrong Elizabeth Returned in 1851 census. I could also have listed other Jones children with same parent names, Jones is an extremely difficult name to trace.
Neil
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Neil, how do you know that those children are born to the right couple? I've looked on the NSW BDM just now and there is nothing to indicate that all those children are born to the same Charles and Elizabeth, particularly with the surname Jones.
It might pay to go back to basics. Vilma, have you worked backwards to get to the Elizabeth Gent who marries in Sydney?
Cheers
Prue
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Hi Neil and PrueM:
Elizabeth Chase Gent married Charles Usher Jones in 1843 in Sydney NSW. Charles born 1844 in Sydney (Volume: V1844915 45a) and Robert William born 1849 in Suffolk were baptised in Bungay on 15 Jul 1849, parents shown as Elizabeth Jones and Charles Usher Jones.
Elizabeth born 1822-1917 parents were Lewis Richard & Lydia (Chase) Gent. I can document my line through the Gents back to 1721.
Lydia Chase Gent's parents were Robert and Elizabeth (Thain) Chase.
Other than Charles Jones born 1844 Sydney I cannot verify any other children born in Sydney and apart from Charles and Robert William none were living in England after they return from Australia.
Thanks you both for assisting.
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Hello all,
I have a similar scenario to Vilma. I have a Mary and Athalia White who arrived in Australia as assisted immigrants in 1844 aboard 'Royal Saxon' with their parents, Richard and Ann, and other siblings. Sometime before 1848, Athalia and Mary have returned to the UK, as they have both married in Buckinghamshire in 1848. Mary actually returned to Australia again as an assisted immigrant in 1855 with her husband, William Turnham.
Do you know if there are any passenger lists available for returns to the UK during this period (between 1844-1848)? I am wanting to know if any of the other family members also returned to the UK.
Thankyou, Emily.
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Hello
Do you have any more info on the White family? My 2x graet grandmother was Athalia White, I know her father was Richard, she had a sister Mary (1841 census) from Chearsley, didn't know mother's name but Athalia married John Miles in July 1848, can you give me siblings names or any other info please.
Thanks
Brian