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Title: Donegeal Beattie
Post by: heath on Wednesday 09 March 11 06:52 GMT (UK)
Looking for Beattie Family.
George Beattie birth circa 1817 and Margaret Nisbet birth circa 1840
marriage unknown chn
                             joseph, 1841 ? William1843?, George 1846
found in Scotland 1851 Census living with a number of other Irish family's in Livingston Linlithgow West Lothian. Any help welcome
Title: Re: Donegeal Beattie
Post by: joemc on Friday 20 May 11 11:48 BST (UK)
I think I see the marriage of George and Margaret 1839 Donegal, Church marriage,
George Beatty = Margaret Nisbit, the record is on the Roots Ireland  PPV site, so without purchasing the record (5 Euro I think) you can not see the details of Parish, parents etc.

There are 2 records on there same year, use advanced search to enter spouses maiden name to narrow search down to the one you are looking for

Joe
Title: Re: Donegeal Beattie
Post by: joemc on Friday 20 May 11 13:30 BST (UK)
Through a series of elimination I was able to find Georges fathers name Daniel Beattie.

I see a Daniel Beatty in the Griffith Valuation farmer, Carrowmenagh, Lower Moville, if that matches the Marriage record

Joe
Title: Re: Donegeal Beattie
Post by: heath on Saturday 21 May 11 08:58 BST (UK)
Thank you for this very helpful web page. :)
with the advance search, it turned out nil if I put in William as father's first name. the same with the mothers name's, Catherine Bruce, does this mean that the parents names are not known.  info from George's death cert 1896,  I did a little bit more and found, we have a birth of William 1845,1839, nil to joseph,and only one for George 1851.
Birth of Margaret Nisbit one 1816,  nil to George. 
Title: Re: Donegeal Beattie
Post by: joemc on Saturday 21 May 11 10:13 BST (UK)
Are you saying that Georges parents were William Beattie = Catherine Bruce? If so marriage record is incorrect

If a blank is returned then either name is wrong or perhaps not known, these sites don't want to give away too much information or no one would purchase the full records!

Have you any idea what part of Donegal the family came from, what religion they were? A lot will depend on this, most Parish records don't go back much further than the mid 19C (Almost no RC Parish records before 1850 in Donegal)

Without a Parish or Townland to pin the family down however it make the task almost impossible, unless they have a very unusual surname.

Joe

Title: Re: Donegeal Beattie
Post by: heath on Saturday 21 May 11 22:54 BST (UK)
Yes according to the death cert his parents were William and Catherine - thus the second son has been named William.  So perhaps there parents names were not required, in1839 like elsewhere.

No I have no idea what part of Donegal they came from, every thing states just Donegal. Free church of Scotland as far as I know.

We did how ever have a match with both names - George and Margaret and 5euro is double down under. - $10 It didn't state how much the birth cert would be.

What would the birth cert hold ?  :)
Title: Re: Donegeal Beattie
Post by: joemc on Sunday 22 May 11 10:53 BST (UK)
The names you are seeing on the Roots site may just be coincidence, Beatty/ie is a common name in Donegal 352 Baptisms, 110 Marriages listed for the county on the site, The Christian names you are searching are some of the most common for the 19C so I would be reluctant to pay for any of the records without more proof that you have the correct Baptism/Marriage record, also remember the records are not comprehensive, the records for your ancestors may not have survived!

I have been caught once or twice myself paying for records that turned out to be incorrect, you also ask what the birth Cert would hold, there will be no birth Cert as such as these records are Pre Civil registration, they will be transcribed from an entry in a church ledger, they will usually contain name of both parents, maiden name of mother, in the case of Episcopalian  (COI) marriages God parents may also be included. You say you think your ancestors were Free Church in Scotland that would most closely correspond with the Presbyterian Church here in Ireland at that time period.

Sorry I can't help further but without Parish/Townland information its a very difficult/impossible task

Joe
Title: Re: Donegeal Beattie
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 22 May 11 11:14 BST (UK)
Any Church of Ireland registers I've seen have not listed mother's name or godparents.
Presbyterian church registers from this period may list only father's name + townland or names of both parents.
Title: Re: Donegeal Beattie
Post by: joemc on Sunday 22 May 11 11:29 BST (UK)
I'll admit its fairly unusual for Godparents to be included, but some early registers such as Clonca in Donegal did include Godparents

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/clonchareg.htm

Or maybe the above was an exception

Joe
Title: Re: Donegeal Beattie
Post by: edenreaghbeg on Thursday 26 May 11 22:54 BST (UK)
Hi heath
I am familiar with a family called Beattie who were living in Moville Co Donegal who were Presbyterians
and they were well known boat builders in that area.
see link to them in 1901 census
I am still in touch with a few of their living relatives who now reside in the Derry/londonderry area


http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Moville/River_Row/1186089/
and 1911 census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Moville/River_Row/496255/
Title: Re: Donegeal Beattie
Post by: heath on Friday 27 May 11 05:33 BST (UK)
 :)Thanks Duncruson
George and Margaret left Donegal circa 1846 and lived in Livingstone West Lothian.  George was a Labourer in all the census. I note that there are a number of Bettie's living in Donegal in both census.
are you able to site the marriage in 1839 or the birth of any chn Joseph circa 1841, William circa 1843 or  George circa 1846? that would then tell me the parish area they were from. Is your contact able to email me as to find out were there is still living relatives in Ireland, most of the extend family came down under to Australia were they are well known(Queensland) or NZ.
Title: Re: Donegeal Beattie
Post by: heath on Friday 24 June 11 09:39 BST (UK)
there is a person - atco10w which I can't seam to contact through the pm's interested in theis person.

would they please read this.  ;)
Title: Re: Donegeal Beattie
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 24 June 11 10:14 BST (UK)
atco10w hasn't made any posts yet so they can't be contacted by PM (new members usually need 3 posts to use Personal Message system)- they joined on 25/5/11 and were only online for a short while.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=155214
Title: Re: Donegeal Beattie
Post by: heath on Sunday 31 July 11 08:43 BST (UK)
To  Duncruson
I took the plunge and went through Roots Ireland to get the marriage that was there. As both George and Margaret Nesbet came up together.  I find that the church was St Johnson Raphoe.  Althought the Father's name is not the same as the name on his death cert, Margaret's father's is.  Mothers were not mentioned.  So if you have contacts with Beatties from that area I would be glad to here from you or anyone else for that matter.
Title: Re: Donegeal Beattie
Post by: Michael Iola Ross on Tuesday 08 August 17 11:44 BST (UK)
Hi, my Great grandfather, was Archie Beattie ,born in Boston Mass before his family brought him back to Moviĺe  a one time boat builders and harbour master in Moville.. in his final few years he lived with a daughter I believe Nancy in Londonderry. His eldest Sarah married a James Ross and moved to Glasgow, Dorothy ended in Wolverhampton, Walter his youngest went to Leicester became a jeweler divorced and moved to the north.More of his children remained in Moville, Greencastle or Derry, Willie being one and I believe a Thomas plus another daughter. Sarah and Jim  my grandparents moved south to Birmingham. Their there surviving kids went on to have their own families born in Glasgow, Birmingham, Worcester, South  Africa, Tasmania, Lima, up in the Andes , and the youngest Sarah in Honduras
Title: Re: Donegeal Beattie
Post by: Sinann on Tuesday 08 August 17 15:48 BST (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat
Is this the family in 1901?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Moville/River_Row/1186089/

Title: Re: Donegeal Beattie
Post by: Michael Iola Ross on Tuesday 08 August 17 17:29 BST (UK)
Yes that would be right Archie was 28 in 1901, I think he died around 1970. I honestly cannot remember how many children he had Sarah my grandmother being the eldest passed in 2004, she also was coming up to her 100th birthday. Thanks for the link to the census I'd been searching for ages :)
Title: Re: Donegeal Beattie
Post by: Nicbeattiewoods on Monday 19 December 22 15:35 GMT (UK)
Hi trying to contact the original post .. Edenreaghbeg.

I’m from Scotland, my grandads family were Beattie’s boats before it got taken over, there also used to be a wee joke that went around. 

Im trying to find out more I also know names etc. just not for this public I don’t know how to reply or work this .. so any help is much appreciated
Title: Re: Donegeal Beattie
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 20 December 22 08:09 GMT (UK)

Hi Nicbeattiewoods, and welcome to RootsChat   :)

 

Im trying to find out more I also know names etc. just not for this public I don’t know how to reply or work this .. so any help is much appreciated


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KG


Title: Re: Donegeal Beattie
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 20 December 22 09:24 GMT (UK)

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..my Great grandfather, was Archie Beattie ,born in Boston Mass before his family brought him back to Moviĺe  a one time boat builders and harbour master in Moville..

Archibald Beattie married Polly Hemphill on 4 April 1905 at New Moville Presbyterian Church. One of the witnesses was his elder brother William.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1905/10164/5697647.pdf

Title: Re: Donegeal Beattie
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 20 December 22 11:17 GMT (UK)

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..my Great grandfather, was Archie Beattie ,born in Boston Mass before his family brought him back to Moviĺe  a one time boat builders and harbour master in Moville..

Archibald Beattie married Polly Hemphill on 4 April 1905 at New Moville Presbyterian Church. One of the witnesses was his elder brother William.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1905/10164/5697647.pdf


Children of the Beattie/Hemphill marriage to 1921-

Sarah Beattie born 24 January 1906 at Summerhill.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1906/01751/1690647.pdf

George Hemphill Beattie born 28 September 1909 at Carrownaffe.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1909/01593/1640152.pdf

Annie Rebecca Beattie born 18 September 1911 at Cooley.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1911/01510/1613336.pdf

Mary Jane Beattie born 30 January 1913 in Moville.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01462/1596754.pdf

Matilda Dorothy Beattie born 17 December 1918 in Moville.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1919/01256/1521646.pdf

Walter Henry Beattie born 17 June 1920 in Moville.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1920/01208/1502277.pdf


KG

Title: Re: Donegeal Beattie
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 20 December 22 20:02 GMT (UK)

In 1901 census (at reply #9), Rebecca Beattie aged 11 yrs-

Rebecca Beatty born 21 March 1890 in Moville.   MMN Douglas
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1890/02430/1904826.pdf

Rebecca Beattie married James Hall Morgan on 26 April 1910 at New Moville Presbyterian Church.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1910/09982/5629856.pdf

Children-

George Alexander Morgan born 11 February 1911
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1911/01540/1623443.pdf

Thomas James Morgan born 30 March 1913
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01452/1593317.pdf

Margaret Hall Morgan born 27 May 1916
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1916/01344/1554585.pdf

William Morgan born 26 July 1920
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1920/01200/1499247.pdf

Title: Re: Donegeal Beattie
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Wednesday 21 December 22 08:06 GMT (UK)

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His eldest Sarah married a James Ross and moved to Glasgow…

Sarah Beattie married James A Ross on 14 May 1926 at New Moville Presbyterian Church.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1926/09119/5298219.pdf


Title: Re: Donegeal Beattie
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Wednesday 21 December 22 10:14 GMT (UK)

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....in his final few years he lived with a daughter I believe Nancy in Londonderry.

Death from https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/

Archibald Beattie   20th January 1970        97      Male         Londonderry


Title: Re: Donegeal Beattie
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Wednesday 21 December 22 13:00 GMT (UK)


Mary Jane Beattie born 30 January 1913 in Moville.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01462/1596754.pdf


Mary Jane Beattie married William Stevenson on 15 August 1913 at New Moville Presbyterian Church. William Stevenson living at Lockerbie, Scotland.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1913/09889/5592693.pdf

A son Andrew Beattie Stevenson born 1916.
STEVENSON
ANDREW BEATTIE
BEATTIE
M
1916
820 / 27
DRYFESDALE

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

Title: Re: Donegeal Beattie
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Wednesday 21 December 22 13:21 GMT (UK)

Add this to the list in reply #20

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More of his children remained in Moville, Greencastle or Derry, Willie being one....

William Thomas Beattie born 19 January 1916 in Moville.  MMN written as Hempill.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1916/01352/1557731.pdf


KG

Title: Re: Donegeal Beattie
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Wednesday 21 December 22 16:51 GMT (UK)
William Beattie (a boat builder) married Elizabeth Polly Foster on 25 January 1921 at New Moville Presbyterian Church.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1921/09217/5334207.pdf

William Beattie, a boat builder and aged 82, died on 25 May 1951 at Moville. The informant was his nephew George H Beattie.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1951/04506/4184822.pdf

His wife Elizabeth Beattie died on 14 January 1951.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1951/04512/4186915.pdf


Edited to Add:
Foster's Terrace, Moville

Via OSi National Townland and Historical Map Viewer.
(click 'Accept' and 'OK'. Click 'X' in the black band. Then select MapGenie 25 Inch [1887-1913] in Basemap Gallery)

https://arcg.is/0uTyOf

Title: Re: Donegeal Beattie
Post by: don_walker on Saturday 11 February 23 22:10 GMT (UK)
Hi Guys,

I might be 5-6 years too late for the person looking for information on the Beattie family from Moville, but an inspired trip to Moville recently (seen the lighthouse) and a catch up with my Dad has led me down the family tree rabbit hole ..

Archie Beattie was my great grandfather, his daughter Annie Rebecca was my grandmother, my dad has lots of information on them if anyone is interested.

Thank you
Don
Title: Re: Donegeal Beattie
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Sunday 12 February 23 17:32 GMT (UK)

Welcome to RootsChat, Don  :)

If you make at least one more post (just say Hi etc), you can use the Personal Message (PM) system to contact the OP (heath) and the other respondants and set up an exchange of personal data, such as e-mail address.

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This was your grandmother then (reply #20). Who did she marry and when?

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Annie Rebecca Beattie born 18 September 1911 at Cooley.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1911/01510/1613336.pdf


KG


Title: Re: Donegeal Beattie
Post by: heath on Sunday 12 February 23 19:52 GMT (UK)
Hello there is not connection to Archie Beattie. There seams to be another thread being tied up here.
Title: Re: Donegeal Beattie
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 13 February 23 09:23 GMT (UK)

Hello there is not connection to Archie Beattie. There seams to be another thread being tied up here.

As you are the OP, then you are aware that the thread title is 'Donegeal [sic] Beattie' and all subsequent posts relate to general information on Beattie/Beatty in Donegal.