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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Donegal => Topic started by: heath on Wednesday 09 March 11 06:52 GMT (UK)
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Looking for Beattie Family.
George Beattie birth circa 1817 and Margaret Nisbet birth circa 1840
marriage unknown chn
joseph, 1841 ? William1843?, George 1846
found in Scotland 1851 Census living with a number of other Irish family's in Livingston Linlithgow West Lothian. Any help welcome
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I think I see the marriage of George and Margaret 1839 Donegal, Church marriage,
George Beatty = Margaret Nisbit, the record is on the Roots Ireland PPV site, so without purchasing the record (5 Euro I think) you can not see the details of Parish, parents etc.
There are 2 records on there same year, use advanced search to enter spouses maiden name to narrow search down to the one you are looking for
Joe
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Through a series of elimination I was able to find Georges fathers name Daniel Beattie.
I see a Daniel Beatty in the Griffith Valuation farmer, Carrowmenagh, Lower Moville, if that matches the Marriage record
Joe
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Thank you for this very helpful web page. :)
with the advance search, it turned out nil if I put in William as father's first name. the same with the mothers name's, Catherine Bruce, does this mean that the parents names are not known. info from George's death cert 1896, I did a little bit more and found, we have a birth of William 1845,1839, nil to joseph,and only one for George 1851.
Birth of Margaret Nisbit one 1816, nil to George.
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Are you saying that Georges parents were William Beattie = Catherine Bruce? If so marriage record is incorrect
If a blank is returned then either name is wrong or perhaps not known, these sites don't want to give away too much information or no one would purchase the full records!
Have you any idea what part of Donegal the family came from, what religion they were? A lot will depend on this, most Parish records don't go back much further than the mid 19C (Almost no RC Parish records before 1850 in Donegal)
Without a Parish or Townland to pin the family down however it make the task almost impossible, unless they have a very unusual surname.
Joe
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Yes according to the death cert his parents were William and Catherine - thus the second son has been named William. So perhaps there parents names were not required, in1839 like elsewhere.
No I have no idea what part of Donegal they came from, every thing states just Donegal. Free church of Scotland as far as I know.
We did how ever have a match with both names - George and Margaret and 5euro is double down under. - $10 It didn't state how much the birth cert would be.
What would the birth cert hold ? :)
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The names you are seeing on the Roots site may just be coincidence, Beatty/ie is a common name in Donegal 352 Baptisms, 110 Marriages listed for the county on the site, The Christian names you are searching are some of the most common for the 19C so I would be reluctant to pay for any of the records without more proof that you have the correct Baptism/Marriage record, also remember the records are not comprehensive, the records for your ancestors may not have survived!
I have been caught once or twice myself paying for records that turned out to be incorrect, you also ask what the birth Cert would hold, there will be no birth Cert as such as these records are Pre Civil registration, they will be transcribed from an entry in a church ledger, they will usually contain name of both parents, maiden name of mother, in the case of Episcopalian (COI) marriages God parents may also be included. You say you think your ancestors were Free Church in Scotland that would most closely correspond with the Presbyterian Church here in Ireland at that time period.
Sorry I can't help further but without Parish/Townland information its a very difficult/impossible task
Joe
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Any Church of Ireland registers I've seen have not listed mother's name or godparents.
Presbyterian church registers from this period may list only father's name + townland or names of both parents.
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I'll admit its fairly unusual for Godparents to be included, but some early registers such as Clonca in Donegal did include Godparents
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/clonchareg.htm
Or maybe the above was an exception
Joe
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Hi heath
I am familiar with a family called Beattie who were living in Moville Co Donegal who were Presbyterians
and they were well known boat builders in that area.
see link to them in 1901 census
I am still in touch with a few of their living relatives who now reside in the Derry/londonderry area
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Moville/River_Row/1186089/
and 1911 census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Moville/River_Row/496255/
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:)Thanks Duncruson
George and Margaret left Donegal circa 1846 and lived in Livingstone West Lothian. George was a Labourer in all the census. I note that there are a number of Bettie's living in Donegal in both census.
are you able to site the marriage in 1839 or the birth of any chn Joseph circa 1841, William circa 1843 or George circa 1846? that would then tell me the parish area they were from. Is your contact able to email me as to find out were there is still living relatives in Ireland, most of the extend family came down under to Australia were they are well known(Queensland) or NZ.
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there is a person - atco10w which I can't seam to contact through the pm's interested in theis person.
would they please read this. ;)
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atco10w hasn't made any posts yet so they can't be contacted by PM (new members usually need 3 posts to use Personal Message system)- they joined on 25/5/11 and were only online for a short while.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=155214
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To Duncruson
I took the plunge and went through Roots Ireland to get the marriage that was there. As both George and Margaret Nesbet came up together. I find that the church was St Johnson Raphoe. Althought the Father's name is not the same as the name on his death cert, Margaret's father's is. Mothers were not mentioned. So if you have contacts with Beatties from that area I would be glad to here from you or anyone else for that matter.
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Hi, my Great grandfather, was Archie Beattie ,born in Boston Mass before his family brought him back to Moviĺe a one time boat builders and harbour master in Moville.. in his final few years he lived with a daughter I believe Nancy in Londonderry. His eldest Sarah married a James Ross and moved to Glasgow, Dorothy ended in Wolverhampton, Walter his youngest went to Leicester became a jeweler divorced and moved to the north.More of his children remained in Moville, Greencastle or Derry, Willie being one and I believe a Thomas plus another daughter. Sarah and Jim my grandparents moved south to Birmingham. Their there surviving kids went on to have their own families born in Glasgow, Birmingham, Worcester, South Africa, Tasmania, Lima, up in the Andes , and the youngest Sarah in Honduras
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Welcome to RootsChat
Is this the family in 1901?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Moville/River_Row/1186089/
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Yes that would be right Archie was 28 in 1901, I think he died around 1970. I honestly cannot remember how many children he had Sarah my grandmother being the eldest passed in 2004, she also was coming up to her 100th birthday. Thanks for the link to the census I'd been searching for ages :)
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Hi trying to contact the original post .. Edenreaghbeg.
I’m from Scotland, my grandads family were Beattie’s boats before it got taken over, there also used to be a wee joke that went around.
Im trying to find out more I also know names etc. just not for this public I don’t know how to reply or work this .. so any help is much appreciated
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Hi Nicbeattiewoods, and welcome to RootsChat :)
Im trying to find out more I also know names etc. just not for this public I don’t know how to reply or work this .. so any help is much appreciated
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KG
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..my Great grandfather, was Archie Beattie ,born in Boston Mass before his family brought him back to Moviĺe a one time boat builders and harbour master in Moville..
Archibald Beattie married Polly Hemphill on 4 April 1905 at New Moville Presbyterian Church. One of the witnesses was his elder brother William.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1905/10164/5697647.pdf
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..my Great grandfather, was Archie Beattie ,born in Boston Mass before his family brought him back to Moviĺe a one time boat builders and harbour master in Moville..
Archibald Beattie married Polly Hemphill on 4 April 1905 at New Moville Presbyterian Church. One of the witnesses was his elder brother William.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1905/10164/5697647.pdf
Children of the Beattie/Hemphill marriage to 1921-
Sarah Beattie born 24 January 1906 at Summerhill.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1906/01751/1690647.pdf
George Hemphill Beattie born 28 September 1909 at Carrownaffe.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1909/01593/1640152.pdf
Annie Rebecca Beattie born 18 September 1911 at Cooley.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1911/01510/1613336.pdf
Mary Jane Beattie born 30 January 1913 in Moville.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01462/1596754.pdf
Matilda Dorothy Beattie born 17 December 1918 in Moville.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1919/01256/1521646.pdf
Walter Henry Beattie born 17 June 1920 in Moville.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1920/01208/1502277.pdf
KG
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In 1901 census (at reply #9), Rebecca Beattie aged 11 yrs-
Rebecca Beatty born 21 March 1890 in Moville. MMN Douglas
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1890/02430/1904826.pdf
Rebecca Beattie married James Hall Morgan on 26 April 1910 at New Moville Presbyterian Church.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1910/09982/5629856.pdf
Children-
George Alexander Morgan born 11 February 1911
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1911/01540/1623443.pdf
Thomas James Morgan born 30 March 1913
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01452/1593317.pdf
Margaret Hall Morgan born 27 May 1916
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1916/01344/1554585.pdf
William Morgan born 26 July 1920
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1920/01200/1499247.pdf
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His eldest Sarah married a James Ross and moved to Glasgow…
Sarah Beattie married James A Ross on 14 May 1926 at New Moville Presbyterian Church.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1926/09119/5298219.pdf
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....in his final few years he lived with a daughter I believe Nancy in Londonderry.
Death from https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/
Archibald Beattie 20th January 1970 97 Male Londonderry
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Mary Jane Beattie born 30 January 1913 in Moville.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01462/1596754.pdf
Mary Jane Beattie married William Stevenson on 15 August 1913 at New Moville Presbyterian Church. William Stevenson living at Lockerbie, Scotland.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1913/09889/5592693.pdf
A son Andrew Beattie Stevenson born 1916.
STEVENSON
ANDREW BEATTIE
BEATTIE
M
1916
820 / 27
DRYFESDALE
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/
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Add this to the list in reply #20
More of his children remained in Moville, Greencastle or Derry, Willie being one....
William Thomas Beattie born 19 January 1916 in Moville. MMN written as Hempill.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1916/01352/1557731.pdf
KG
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William Beattie (a boat builder) married Elizabeth Polly Foster on 25 January 1921 at New Moville Presbyterian Church.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1921/09217/5334207.pdf
William Beattie, a boat builder and aged 82, died on 25 May 1951 at Moville. The informant was his nephew George H Beattie.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1951/04506/4184822.pdf
His wife Elizabeth Beattie died on 14 January 1951.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1951/04512/4186915.pdf
Edited to Add:
Foster's Terrace, Moville
Via OSi National Townland and Historical Map Viewer.
(click 'Accept' and 'OK'. Click 'X' in the black band. Then select MapGenie 25 Inch [1887-1913] in Basemap Gallery)
https://arcg.is/0uTyOf
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Hi Guys,
I might be 5-6 years too late for the person looking for information on the Beattie family from Moville, but an inspired trip to Moville recently (seen the lighthouse) and a catch up with my Dad has led me down the family tree rabbit hole ..
Archie Beattie was my great grandfather, his daughter Annie Rebecca was my grandmother, my dad has lots of information on them if anyone is interested.
Thank you
Don
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Welcome to RootsChat, Don :)
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This was your grandmother then (reply #20). Who did she marry and when?
Annie Rebecca Beattie born 18 September 1911 at Cooley.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1911/01510/1613336.pdf
KG
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Hello there is not connection to Archie Beattie. There seams to be another thread being tied up here.
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Hello there is not connection to Archie Beattie. There seams to be another thread being tied up here.
As you are the OP, then you are aware that the thread title is 'Donegeal [sic] Beattie' and all subsequent posts relate to general information on Beattie/Beatty in Donegal.