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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: abun on Wednesday 09 March 11 14:45 GMT (UK)
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I live in the UK and Frank was one of my early ancestors, but he seems to be a bit of a mystery man and I am looking for some help please.
Born in New Zealand on 10th Sept, 1889, he left for Australia sometime after about 1906/7 and was said to have lived in or around Melbourne for a time and at Leongatha, Victoria and in South Australia. He used the alias Wally/Walter and sometimes the surname Williamson. He is also said to have married twice, once to a Jean Lane and once to an Ada Goodall and to have had two daughters. Their is also a rumour that he might have been involved in crime and may have served time in Pentridge Prison, Victoria!
I've searched where I can but can find no trace of his marriages or death or details of where he lived.
If anybody can help with any information at all, I would be extremely grateful.
Many thanks.
Martin
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There are several mentions of a 'Frank HARROP' for robbery in 1910 that was sentenced to 3years in the newspapers here:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper
Also another one in in 1923 for car theft that gives the aliases of Frank HARROP, Frank WILLIAMSON, Walter WILLIAMSON & Wally MEEKIN here:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0c6z/
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Thanks for those Melrin
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Longshot, but the National Archives holds an undigitised file under the name WALTER HARROP
I do not know what it contains, but says born in NZ in 1887 (not quite it!) and seems to relate to 1916.
When I search NZ BDM, I do not see such birth.
You can order copy
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx
Sue
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may be another long shot:
Springvale Cemetery has:
SPRINGVALE BOTANICAL CEMETERY
HARROP Ada
The Cremated Remains Have Been Scattered
Cremated 12/07/1965
http://www.deceasedsearch.com/index.php
Leanne
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DEATH:
HARROP Ada age 84yrs d. 1965 DAND (Dandenong) #14192
Father: Goodale Unknown
Mother: UNKNOWN
Can you give us Frank's parent's names please?
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http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/1630867?searchTerm="walter harrop"&searchLimits=
I suspect this newspaper notice of criminal proceedings in 1916.Melb. against WALTER HARROP relate to the NAA file I have mentioned above.
Sue
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Merlin,
There is a family tree that has Frank's parents as.
F: Joseph Harrop born 3rd June 1848, Hadfield, Derbyshire. Died 11th Oct 1907 in Auckland.
M: Eliza Ellis born between Oct & Dec 1852, Okengates, Shropshire. Died 23rd Oct 1928 in Auckland.
Regards
Gerry
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Merlin,
Yes Frank's parents were Joseph Harrop and Eliza Ellis.
Thanks everyone else for the info so far
Martin
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I live in the UK and Frank was one of my early ancestors, but he seems to be a bit of a mystery man and I am looking for some help please.
Born in New Zealand on 10th Sept, 1889, he left for Australia sometime after about 1906/7 and was said to have lived in or around Melbourne for a time and at Leongatha, Victoria and in South Australia. He used the alias Wally/Walter and sometimes the surname Williamson. He is also said to have married twice, once to a Jean Lane and once to an Ada Goodall and to have had two daughters. Their is also a rumour that he might have been involved in crime and may have served time in Pentridge Prison, Victoria!
I've searched where I can but can find no trace of his marriages or death or details of where he lived.
If anybody can help with any information at all, I would be extremely grateful.
Many thanks.
Martin
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I am a direct decendent of Frank Ernest Harrop. He was married to Ada Goodale who lived with us until her death in 1965 ( yes she was cremated at the Springvale Necropolis). I was not aware he was married to Jean Lane. Frank was born in NZ as one of 10 children to Joseph and Eliza Harrop and he came to Australia at some stage (shipping records would be handy) before marrying Ada on 17th.April 1916 at Foster Victoria, being 6 months pregnant (carrying Walter Ernest- my dad). Dad was born in July 1916. A second son was born in Nov.1919 but only lived for 12 hours and is buried in the Wangaratta cemetery. Frank left Ada about 1920 from Wangaratta Victoria. That's about all I know about Frank but if any one can help me with cemetery records I would be really appreciative. The two daughters mentioned are not Frank's with Ada unless it refers to myself and my sister, but maybe with Jean Lane ? The marriage certificate shows Eliza Williamson (nee Ellis) and Richard Williamson as witnesses so maybe Eliza came to Australia to be with her son and remarried after Joseph's death in NZ. I'm confussed !
Regards to all Marion.
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Thanks Marion,
We're now in touch direct.
Martin
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Hello Marion
Walter Ernest HARROP b 1916 Prahran - Walter Frank Ernest HARROP and Ada GOODALL # 23839
Unnamed Male b 1919 Wangaratta- Walter Frank HARROP and Ada GOODALL # 31446
Ada HARROP d 1965 aged 84 Dandenong- Unknown GOODALL and unknown mother # 14192
Regards
Alison
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Thanks Alison, very helpful.
Marion.