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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Cardiganshire => Topic started by: SP on Wednesday 09 March 11 15:48 GMT (UK)
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I am so excited! today after several years I recieved a copy of my Great grandparents marriage.
At the time of their marriage March 1886 they were living at the above address Princess Street.
Is there anyone who could find out who was also in that household please at that time?
Also if there is any records that could be searched for the following years\/
Looking for Davies,& Evans family, they were hawkers.
Thanking you
Susan
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so excited you forgot to give their first names! ;D
How about names, ages & fathers' names & occupations, please? In between census years may be difficult.
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Hello again osprey,
Susan, if possible the house number may be useful. I don't know if it's too early for electoral rolls but if not the ladies at Ceridion Archives may be able to help http://archifdy-ceredigion.org.uk/
Princess Street is a small street in the old part of town linking Queen Street and Vulcan Street
Dave
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Hi Dave,
I've had a liitle look already and the number would be a help.
;)
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I am ever so sorry!!
House number 12
Henry Davies aged 20 years a hawker, Anne Evans 20 years
parents, Henry's father Johm also Hawker, Anne's father Robert also Hawker
witnesses John Thomas, and mark of Bridgett Fox
Thank you
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well, 1881 has Jane Jenkins aged 80, flour dealer, b. Aberystwyth at that address RG11/5445 folio 125 pg 17
1891 12 Princess St, RG12/4558 folio 93 pg 30
Richard Thomas head mar 52 painter b. Aberystwyth
Jane wife 48 b. Aberayron
Margaret dau 17 b. Aberystwyth
Richard son 16 painter b. Aberystwyth
Elizabeth dau 13 b. Aberystwyth
J R Williams boarder 15 solicitor's clerk b. Tregaron
J H Jenkins boarder 17 solicitor's clerk b. Nantcwnlle
not that this seems to help any.
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Is this your couple in 1891?
Mwrog Street, Ruthin, Denbighshire RG12/4621 folio 34 pg 1
Henry Davies head mar 25 pedlar b. Ruthin
Anne wife 25 b. Montgomeryshire, Oswestry
Margaret Ann dau 5 months b. Ruthin
which would seem to lead to
1871 5 Victoria Street, Minera RG10/5656 folio 89 pg 22
John Davies head mar 37 dealer in ware b. Ruthin
Eliza wife 30 b. Ruthin
John son 17 b. Ruthin
Thomas son 12 b. Ruthin
Ann dau 8 b. Ruthin
Henry son 6 b. Ruthin
Edward son 7 months b. Flintshire, Black Diamond
Edward brother 34 dealer in ware b. Abergele
1891 77 Clwyd St, Ruthin RG12/4621 folio 61 pg 9
John Davies head mar 59 pedlar b. Flintshire, Holywell
Elizabeth wife 47 b. Denbighshire, Denbigh
Edward son 20 pedlar b. Flintshire, Black Diamond
Harriett dau 14 b. Denbighshire, Coed Poeth
William S son 11 b. Denbigh
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Osprey
Thank you very much for that, and yes you do have the correct family.
Hmm wonder how I can find out who was living there in 1886?
Trying to locate Anne's family post and prior to her marriage, I do believe they were also hawkers!!
Much appreciated
Thank you
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you could try street directories. The archives might be able to help
http://archifdy-ceredigion.org.uk/contact.php
Don't you already have the family in 1871? Do you have 1881?
1881 4 Old Gaol Cottages, Montgomery RG11/5489 folio 33 pg 16
Robert Evans head mar 44 earthenware dealer b. Shropshire, Oswestry
Elizabeth wife 45 b. Shropshire, Ellesmere
Robert son 19 b. Mont, Welshpool
Jane dau 9 b. Shropshire, Ruyton 11 towns
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Osprey :) Thank you so much for the 1881 Census for Robert and family, I now have that and 1871 for the family. Would there be any other available?
The Davies side I have thank you
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Give them a call at Ceredigion Archives in Aberystwyth, The ladies there are most helpful and very knowledgable. They will be able to tell you exactly what records are available and in the past have been most obliging in looking up information. The website address you have...........e mail archives@ceredigion.gov.uk tel 01970 633696/633698
Dave
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1891 Travelling Van, Shelve, Shropshire RG12/2086 folio 75 pg 6
Robert Evans head mar 58 hawker b. Oswestry
Elizabeth wife 60 hawker b. Ellesmere
Jane dau 17 hawker b. Ruyton Eleven towns
William Jones nephew 9 b. Mont, Welshpool
travelling van
Robert Evans head mar 28 hawker b. Welshpool
Margaret wife 28 hawker b. Welshpool
Maggie dau 2 b. Oswestry
1901 Turnpike Cottage, Llanrhaedr ym Mochnant RG13/5206 folio 42 pg 11
Robert Evans head mar 37 hawker b. Welshpool
Margaret wife 37 b. Welshpool
Margaret wife 12 b. Oswestry
Robert J son 9 b. Montgomeryshire, Cann Office
William son 3 b. Mont, Cwmllenyn
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Dave and Osprey thank you very much indeed, it is very much appreciated.
I am trying my hardest to get as much as possible for my Uncle's birthday next month, he will be over the moon with all this.
I did contact the ladies at archives and sadly they had no information on them, she said saying that it did not mean they did not live there.
So now where do I look?
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it does tend to be only head of households for directories. I don't think electoral roles will help as the males in this family may not have been entitled to vote - there was a property quailification before 1918.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Parliamentary_Franchise_in_the_United_Kingdom_1885-1918
Why do you need to know who else was in the household? You have census entries for the family before and after the marriage. Have you checked the 1911 for them?
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old related post
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=c5d81dsehjtuvek74q7fd5rr25&topic=57460.0
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Osprey
Thank you for that.
Sorry if I am repeating myself.
The reason I asked this enquiry was as I said after many years I have at last got the correct wedding for my Great Grand parents.
The question regarding who was living at that address at the time of their wedding was to try to put pieces together, I was most surprised that they were living in that area, and would have like to know who if anybody where they living with, also wonder how long they were living there.
When I am doing this I try to image the scene and sometimes I admit I go on too much.
I apologise for this, being too eager and wanting too much, once again sorry
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no need to apologise. As the families seem to travel, it could be that they were just lodging in Aberystwyth. You can see from the birthplaces of the children that they moved around. Perhaps they had a circuit that they travelled. Birth certs & census entries will help you plot their movements.