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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cheshire => Topic started by: June Thompson on Wednesday 09 June 04 12:14 BST (UK)
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Hello,
Can anyone help me please regarding Wybunbury & Audlem Parish Records. Does anyone know if there is a Parish Records CD available to buy with these two Churches on it. Or failing this, could someone please advise me where I could view these records, other than the Archives Centre at Chester. I am not a car driver so am unable to travel to Chester from Congleton.
All the research I have done so far has been in the Staffordshire area, so I am really new to Cheshire Research. I would really appreciate it if someone could please point me in the right direction.
Many thanks,
June
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Hi June
I have a copy of Bertram Merralls Cheshire parish records its marriages only though. If there is anyone specific your looking for, or just a family name let me know and I will have a look.
There are bits and pieces for sale at Crewe fhs for Wybunbury.
http://www.scfhs.org.uk/scfhs/pubs.html
Otherwise its the CRO I'm afraid, and being disabled I know how difficult it is. I have to rely on my sister for my Cheshire parish searches luckily she is also into family history.
I also have 1851 and 1841 censuses for the areas if I can help I will.
good luck
peterbennett
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Hi
There is some coverage of Wybunbury on the BVRI v2, nothing of Audlem. Coverage is sometimes not total for a parish, but if you want to try a couple of names and dates for baptisms I'll have a look for you. At least if you have a date from an index you can apply to CRO by post or on-line for a photocopy from the film of the parish registers if it is available(usually fairly inexpensive)
Odessa.
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Hello again Peter,
I'm the one you helped recently with the MULLINER family I am researching.
I invested my pennies into buying the 1841 Census for Shropshire, and at last found Richard Mulliner aged 3 years with his parents William & Mary & brothers John aged 15, William aged 7, James aged 5, and sister Mary aged 1 year living at Woore.
I now need to find Richards baptism. I have looked for him on the I.G.I.for Shropshire, Cheshire & Staffordshire with no luck. I realise that not all baptisms are on the I.G.I. so now it is a case of searching different Parishes in the area to try and find him. Wybunbury seems to have quite a few Mulliner entries, plus Richard got married there. I also need to find Richard Mulliner's father William's parents. I have found a very good possible at Woore Chapel. Its says bapt: 26/8/1804 William son of John Mulliner of Bridgemere.(No mothers name given) and there are no further Mulliner entries at Woore chapel. I now need to find a marriage for John Mulliner somewhere in the area of Bridgemere. It really is proving a big challenge changing from one County to the other. If you could possibly look at your records for me to see if there is a marriage at Wybunbury for John
Mulliner about 1804 I would be very grateful.
Many thanks,
June
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Hello Odessa,
If you wouldn't mind looking for me to see if you can see a baptism for RICHARD MULLINER about 1837 I would be very grateful.
Many thanks,
June
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Hi June
Yes I thought it was you, glad you sorted out the Richard one.
Here are a couple of John Mulliner marriages that may fit.
1) 21/2/1797 Elizabeth Morrey at Audlem St. James
2) 7/10/1799 Margaret Brookes at Brereton St. Oswald
3) 28/12/1802 Ann Littler at Acton St. Mary
4) 3/5/1804 Nancy Harvey at Audlem St. James
5) 1/8/1813 Ann Haywood at Audlem St. James
Unfortunatly I only have the index, there may be more info in the actual parish records.
I have extracted around 100 Mulliner ( and variations of ) marriages in and around the district from 1680-1837. if you would like a copy please let me know.
good luck
peterbennett
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Hello Peter,
Thank you very much for the MULLINER information,
I really apreciate it.
If you could please let me have a copy of the list of Mulliners you have extracted from your records, that would be fantastic.
Thanks once again for all you efforts,
Best Wishes
June
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Hello June,
I noticed in your correspondance with the late Peter Bennett dated 2004 you were researching the Mulliner family of Wybunbury and Bridgemere. I myself am researching the son William of the same family and would appreciate any help you may be able to offer. Roy Mulliner
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Hi June,
Have you tried the Cheshire Parish Registers Project ? It has transcriptions for both Wybunbury and Audlem up to around 1870.
I've had a quick look and found a marriage for William Mulliner and Mary Duckas (sic) on 29 Dec 1824.
Hope this helps :)
jubee
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thanks jubee , i will check that
regards roy
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Hi
have you tried this site
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#
There are many records from these districts and have helped me with my ancestors.
Patricia
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thanks patricia that was most helpfull
regards roy
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Hi Can anyone help me find family who lived in Wybunbury. Their name is Hayes I know Joseph Hayes died 1851 and he was a sexton at the local church. Also does anyone know where I can find an old map of the area. Thanks
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Hi lynnc7, welcome to RootsChat
Just had a quick look..Joseph Hayes and family are on the 1841 & 51 census Wybunbury, do you have those? :-\
Let's know.
Maybe if you ask for a specific look up request on the top of the Cheshire board, it will be noticed by more people, you could be overlooked on this thread.
Have you tried googling Cheshire tithe maps....they show the old tithe maps on one half of the screen and the relevant area OS map on t'other.
Hope that helps ;)
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Hi
I wonder if you can check on a marriage for me please
Its for a John moss to betty heginbotham on the
15 may 1802 at stockport by licence its on the
family search pilot but it only states it was in
cheshire
thanks
astwood
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Hi Liverbird09
Thanks for the information. I do have some of those documents. A more specific question will be a good idea.
I'll try that next time.
Thanks again for your help
lynnc7
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Hello June,
I realise this is some years since your original message! but I too am researching the Mulliners in the Audlem, Adderley, Market Drayton, Cheswardine areas and have quite a few of their wills. If you are interested please send me a message and I would be very happy to share the information I have (or indeed with anyone out there)
best wishes
Alison Molineux
Nelson NZ
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Joining this thread VERY belatedly, and more in hope than expectation! I am researching John and Ann Mulliner, parents of Elizabeth born 1815 in Stapeley, who married William Bayley in 1840. Thought I had identified her parents but now it seems there are a lot of possibilities, after flogging through Ancestry, Findmypast and Familysearch. Does anyone else have an interest in these people?
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Hi there, my Mulliners were in Wybunbury/ Audlem several centuries earlier and by the 1830s were firmly Mullineux . So I don't think our families are linked.
I have had a look at John & Ann though and have a suggestion. The spread of birth years of children of John and Ann Mulliner in Wybunbury from 1803 till at least 1817 suggests only one couple, so although there are 3 John and Ann Mulliner marriages in Audlem all of whom COULD have been Elizabeth's parents I would go for John and Ann nee Littler married January 1802 in Audlem and assume all the other children are Elizabeth's siblings.(or at least until proved otherwise!) I notice their 1803 son was named Samuel. That might be a clue to John's father's name. Hope this is of some help
warm wishes, Alison in NZ
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Thanks Ali. As you say, there are births to John and Ann Mulliner stretching from 1803 - actually to 1822, or even 1826. It's not impossible they were all to the same couple, though if so I feel sorry for Ann who must have been carrying children around for most of 20 years or so.
But there is at least one, maybe two, marriages that might fit the idea of two or more sets of parents named John and Ann Mulliner. John and Ann Littler were married in Acton, not Audlem and, although it's still South Cheshire, subsequent birthplaces point to baptisms at Wybunbury or Audlem.
A John married Ann Harvey (also known as Nancey) in 1804 in Audlem, but their family is fairly well documented later so I have ruled them out.
But there is also John to Ann Hayward in Audlem on 1.8.1813 and that was my original assumption until I found the earlier births.
Hence my enquiry to see if anyone else had information to sort this out. I'll continue to ponder, but you have certainly given me food for thought - thanks
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Hi All,
The Cheshire Parish Register Project is still available @
cgi.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/
All the parish registers for Wybunbury and Audlem were indexed there. I have used the site extensively as I have Hockenhull and Turners in Wybunbury and Parkers in Audlem.
There is a book in the Cheshire Archives that was compiled by the sexton detailing where he buried individuals and their relationships - very useful!
Hope you all have some success at the site.
Doolittle72
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I think I have now resolved this. I looked at the marriage record for Ann Littler and John Mulliner in 1802. It doesn't show her parents, which would have helped to establish her birth date. But it does show a witness as Margaret Littler. There are a few Ann Littlers born in the right time frame for someone married in 1802, but there is a Margaret Littler born Bunbury in 1782 to William (mother not shown, even though she did all the hard work). William of Bunbury also had a daughter Ann baptised 19.12.79.
I know that my ancestor Ann Mulliner died in 1849 aged 70 so that fits nicely.
That leaves the question of their children. I had looked for all little Mulliners born to John and Ann and found 12 between 1803 and 1822 (including my ancestor Elizabeth). One was born in Audlem, and fits my original favourites (John and Ann nee Haywood, married in Audlem in 1813). Then I found Ann Mulliner died in Audlem in 1820 aged 34, so that fits that one and rules out a link on my tree.
Of the rest - the first was born in Gresty (my own birthplace 140 years later). More on that below.
But then the remaining 10 are fairly evenly spaced between 1804 and 1822 in Hatherton, then Stapeley, then back to Hatherton. As they are adjoining parishes, I'm accepting them as one family.
That just leaves the one born in Gresty - Samuel, baptised 30.12.1803 to John and Ann. The dates fit a marriage in December 1802 but it's even further away from Acton than Stapeley/Hatherton so I'll have to check for any other John and Ann that might fit that one.
Isn't detective work fun? But none of this would have happened if Alison had not switched my attention to Ann Littler instead of Ann Heywood. So many thanks - another gold star for Rootschat!
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I'm impressed! you've done a great piece of detective work there & glad to be of help. best wishes, Alison
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Thought I should add to say that once again it seems I am on the wrong track. The Ann Littler in the Bunbury area seems to have married Samuel Dodd on 17.2.1806 at Bunbury. Having established her parents plus 10 siblings, and starting to go back on that Littler family, that's frustrating to say the least.
So now I am going back to see if I can identify the Ann Littler who married John Mulliner at Acton on 28.12.1802, with a witness named Margaret Littler who must surely be a sister or mother. Is there an emoji for "bangs head against a wall"?