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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Devon => Topic started by: garlands on Friday 18 March 11 14:54 GMT (UK)
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Richard GARLAND m Elizabeth DAW on 11 Nov 1792 in Stoke Damerel. Presumably, he was born c 1771, but where and to whom?
The best I have found so far is 14 July 1770 in Tiverton, to Richard & Mary, the 7th child in a family of 9, but there are not enough 'family' names to give any certainty. Are there any other likely Richard GARLANDs out there waiting for me?
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Richard GARLAND b. 1771 in Tiverton was still alive in 1851, living in Llandilofawr, Llandilo, Wales, a widower, described as a Gentleman and annuitant. He is shown in the same location in 1841 married to a Hannah, so I think this may eliminate the Tiverton Richard from your searches.
I note that he & Elizabeth named one of their children Francis Burrell GARLAND (bapt 27 Dec 1802, born 10 Oct 1802.) Perhaps BURRELL is a clue. I also note that a Bartholomew and a Humphrey GARLAND also married and were having children in Stoke Damerel at that time - brothers perhaps? Bartholomew was a shop keeper; Humphrey a labourer and Richard a cordwainer.
A Richard GARLAND was buried at Stoke Damerel 6 Nov 1816, aged 62 - making his birthdate ca 1754.
A Francis GARLAND was buried at Stoke Damerel 24 Sep 1836, aged 76, making his birthdate ca 1766.
A John GARLAND was buried at Stoke Damerel 10 Oct 1835, aged 85. He was Sexton of the parish of Stoke Damerel for 53 years.
The name was prevalent in the parish - it may be necessary to check other Plymouth area church baptisms. I have looked at Plymouth St Andrew for you - no luck there.
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DOB7,
Yes, that certainly seems to eliminate the Tiverton Richard GARLAND from my researches. All I have to do now is find the right one!
I'll have a look at the other names you provided to see if any of them fit in with what I have already.
Thanks for your help
George
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Having recently returned to the search after an enforced absence, I am still unable to find this ancestor despite all the data which has become accessible since my last visit. Can anyone help me now, please?
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Hello again. I've just looked at the marriage entry, and note that a Peter GARLAND was a witness. Richard was described as a cordwainer and both he & Peter signed their names so were somewhat literate.
A Peter GARLAND was baptised in Stoke Damerel 13 Jan 1765, son of Isaac & Sarah GARLAND.
A Peter GARLAND, husbandman was married in Stoke Damerel in 1765 to a Letitia ROGERS. Again, Peter signed his name - you could compare signatures.
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Thanks.
It seems reasonable to assume that Peter and Richard were related, even that they were brothers. Therefore, Isaac and Sarah GARLAND must be Richard's parents. If so, why is there apparently no record of Richard's baptism? I'll see if I can find any other children of Isaac and Sarah.
Of some concern is the fact that, if Isaac and Sarah are my ancestors, I have not, as yet, found the name Isaac carried forward in the GARLAND family.
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Or, the parents could be Peter & Letitia GARLAND who married in 1765.
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More info: A Richard GARLAND born 1771/2 was buried at Stoke Damerel 24 Jan 1838 aged 66 - address James Street. An Elizabeth GARLAND was buried at SD 12 Apr 1863 aged 98 address 94 James Street.
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Concerning your 14.32, that would certainly account for Peter. So, are they cousins or brothers? Or, is Peter (the witness) the father of Richard (the groom)?
On your 15.56, yes, I've picked up both of those burials. Many thanks.
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DOB7
Just noticed your interest in LILLYCRAP. I have a minor connection to that name; would you like details here or on another thread?
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If you click on my name (LH side) you can PM me with the details. I have a fairly extensive study of LILLICRAPs and variants so would be interested to learn what you have.
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OK. I shall do that shortly
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After a very long fallow period, I have found another possibility:-
Richard GARLAND bap 23 May 1769 in Marystow to David & Anne
Marystow(e) is some 17 miles from Stoke Damerel.
I can find no death for this Richard, and no other likely marriage until that with Elizabeth DAW in 1792
I think my main concern is that, although Richard & Elizabeth had at least 7 children, they did not use the name David or Anne.
If anyone can help me confirm or eliminate this Richard, I should be most grateful
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Here's a very long shot which may just be the solution. Baptised at Illogan, Cornwall 28 July 1770, Richard GARLAND son of Peter & Elizabeth. Then I checked the marriage for Peter & Elizabeth: Peter GARLAND married Elizabeth BURRELL 13 August 1769 at Illogan.
As previously noted, Richard & Elizabeth baptised one of their children: Francis Burrell GARLAND (bapt 27 Dec 1802, born 10 Oct 1802.
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It may seem like a long-shot to you, but it looks like a bull's eye to me, especially with that occurrence of the BURRELL surname.
I've had so many false dawns with this one, please excuse me if I think about it for a while.
I've never been completely comfortable with Francis since I first found him, as both his forenames jarred somewhat.
For now, thanks for a great discovery.
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You can check the names of all children baptised to Peter & Elizabeth at https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/ Enter the name Peter GARLAND in the search boxes for 'person search' and then click on baptisms. You'll also find Peter's probable burial in 1826 and Elizabeth's in 1805.
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Thanks. That's a new one on me.
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I also follow this Garland family. Richard had a sister Elizabeth who married Samuel Daniel.
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According to my records, Richard's parents were Peter and Elizabeth (nee BURRELL). Peter was bap 1742 in St Agnes to Peter and Mary (nee MEANE) who was bap 1704 in St Agnes.