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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Kilkenny => Topic started by: LeeanneB on Saturday 19 March 11 14:18 GMT (UK)
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Hello,
I'm researching the Blunden's of Kilkenny. Particularly any with links to Castle Blunden as this is where my family lived (lives).
My biggest brick wall so far is Overington Blunden (b. cir 1600), father of Overington Blunden (b. bef 1630) who married Elizabeth Field in 1647 in Bisley, Surrey, England. They had 6 children that I know of being John; Robert; Dorothy; Sarah; Mary and Lydia. They all lived at Castle Blunden in Kilkenny.
Is there anyone else researching this line, or anyone who has any information?
Regards,
Leeanne Blunden
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No connection. Found these on Familysearch;
John Blunden;
b. 15/8/1767 Castle Blunden Kilkenny
d. 1/3/1818
Spouse; Hester Helsham;
b.about 1796 Kilkenny
Married; 1812 Kilkenny
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Catherine Rose Blunden;
b. 1770 Clonmore Kilkenny
d. 1840
Spouse; Edward Elliott
Married; before 1793
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Christopher Blunden;
b. 1768 Clonmore Kilkenny
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John Blunden;
b. 1766 Clonmore Kilkenny
d. bef. 1819 Annfield Kilkenny
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Simon Osborne Blunden;
b. about 1775 Clonmore Kilkenny
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Trevor Lloyd Blunden;
b. 1764 Clonmore Kilkenny
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Jack
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Hi there have found this
Blunden christening 4 May 1601 St Michael Paternoster Royal City of London
Can't quite read the transcription it is faded badly
Doesn't appear to have a name or parents on it
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Burial
Overington Blunden Dec 1674 St Giles Cripplegate London
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Robert Blunden christened 26 March 1598 Steyning, Sussex
Maybe a parish lookup would help or something. Some kind person may go have a look for you if you know where
sorry no parents or anything mentioned anywhere I can see
Blunden male christening 2 Sept 1603 Fletching, Sussex
Jone Blunden bapt 29 Dec 1605 Female
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Just saw a tree in A and it has Overington Blunden born in Castlle Blunden, Kilkenny
Interesting maybe there is a castle there they all lived in oooohhhh - lucky you
maybe they have there own records or something - sorry don't know myself
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Thank you both for the information!! I really appreciate the time you took to check for me!
Janine - Castle Blunden does belong to my family :) It's really more of a Manor House now though. In 1667 Overington (the son of the Overington who is my brick wall) obtained a "grant of Glanmore, alias Clanmore, for the land and Manor House to be forever called Blunden's Castle, and other lands in County Kilkenny, Queens County and County Waterford, by patent dated 19 Feb 20 (1620?). Charles II in 1667." This is as per Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition.
Castle Blunden is still our family seat, so to speak, and the current Baronet of Castle Blunden, Hubert Chisholm Blunden 8th Bart, is my 6th cousin 1x removed. I have photographs of Castle Blunden, but have never had the opportunity to go there myself, I very much want to though. Anyway, to cut a long story short, they will most definitely have information there relevant to what I'm researching, I just need to find contact details for them somewhere :)
Where did you find the christening and burial info on Overington? That fits with dates I have for him and it very well might be his burial date...
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Found it on the big A... site. It really is a world of wonders sometimes. Although in saying that it can also confuse you too !!
Not a lot else on there I could see that related to your side apart from a family tree in there that has a bit of info.
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Ok, I have an account there so I'll check. Thanks again for checking for me!!
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hi leeanne
just thought i drop by and say hello, i am hughs brother john, i see you trying to get past overington.....hum, well family folklore has it that family we royalists, but i think it was otherwise, i believe he was a officer on the other side ;D scock horror,my guess was that after the return of charles II all links to that past were buried, making it very hard to get any truth out of it ,if you can check cromwells army lists you might be suprised what you turn up ,just a friendly lead
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Hello John,
After almost 2 years (and some computer trouble causing loss of information) I have finally made it back to this website, and I saw your reply to my Blunden query in the Kilkenny thread. When you say you are brother to Hugh do you mean Hubert Chisholm? Making you (if my records are correct) John Maurice Patrick??
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hi lee anne
well done your back ;D ok contact me at *
best john
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Hi John
Back and very, very happy that you have replied!! :D :D
They've removed your e-mail address from your post though :(
Please would you send me a private message with your e-mail address? I would love to contact you! The last time I tried sending you a private message it didn't want to go through as your inbox was full.
Kind regards,
Leeanne
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hi leeanne
will do just one thing finding hard to figure out how to get to private messages this place seems hard to fathom
best john
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Please would you send me a private message with your e-mail address? I would love to contact you! The last time I tried sending you a private message it didn't want to go through as your inbox was full.
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you both have more than three posts now, so should now have full access to the Personal Message System. See the link above in reply#11.
Leinster Moderator.
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Thanks Shane :) I have just managed to get a message through to John
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Came across this grave in Tramore in Waterford, thought it may be of interest.
MARY JOSEPH HYLAND CASTLEBLUNDEN KILKENNY 1861 AGED 25.
WIFE OF JOSEPH P HYLAND.
tried to post a pic but was unable to upload.
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Hi grizzly1,
I'd be quite interested in seeing the pic - is it on a website somewhere or is it one that you took yourself?
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hi Leanne I've just sent you a pm...the pic is too large to upload, I may be able to send it to you via email, Its a grave/headstone that caught my eye while I was in a graveyard in Tramore County Waterford...I took a photo of it.
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Thank you! I've sent you an e-mail :)
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some photos of Castle Blunden at www.buildingsofireland.ie
[reg no for Castle Blunden is 12401906
entrance gates 12401905
gateway 12401919
farmyard 12401920
gate lodge 12401907
ice house 12401915
[you can also get information about its garden in "garden" section of same site. Includes aerial image and map image :)
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Found this & knew you'd get a kick out of it. Sorry it is in the wrong location, too lazy to seek out any London queries....
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~ingram/StSaviour/presentments.html
( also Christopher & Henry as Blundell inkeepers under Wills) basic infotranscribed on page
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~ingram/StSaviour/wills-b.html
1632 November; 1633 February to June...for being bad on the sabboth
Item [we] present William Sherlock and Overington Blundon for suffering their servants to work on the Sabbath day in service time
Wonder if it is the Whitster I found for you many years ago on another site that no longer exists. Man I can't believe it was erased, how silly...all that information could have remained in Google cache. All that research from so many people...never to be found, just gone!!!
J.J.
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more snippets...Hey, building something new was probably the talk of the town...( they actually were keeping track to avoid sprawl... Like that worked ;))
For the Parishe of St Sauiours in Southwarke
[Endorsed:] The returne of newe buildinges & warrant for the same
The libty of old Paris garden wthin the said Parish of St Saviours as followeth
(A great list of buildings being erected in previous decades)
One stable built wth timber vppon a newe foundacion by William Hind worth 10s per Annum, Overington Blunden being nowe the tenant thereof.
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~ingram/StSaviour/foundations.html
and he was having a good stretch, excused a month's rent a few years later! https://books.google.ca/books?id=dVU4AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA365&lpg=PA365&dq="overington+blunden+"
These occupations were extracted from christenings.... Overington with occ Whitster, (listed along with with John (Overington?) Blunden) the other Overington as well, listed as a Guard...No date given, but so if you don't have all those christenings, they appear to have found them. The inkeepers Henry & George also listed as Blunden in there.
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~ingram/StSaviour/vocations.html
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/survey-london/vol22/pp94-100
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Overington Blunden mentions on the peerage
http://www.thepeerage.com
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Hello,
I'm researching the Blunden's of Kilkenny. Particularly any with links to Castle Blunden as this is where my family lived (lives).
My biggest brick wall so far is Overington Blunden (b. cir 1600), father of Overington Blunden (b. bef 1630) who married Elizabeth Field in 1647 in Bisley, Surrey, England. They had 6 children that I know of being John; Robert; Dorothy; Sarah; Mary and Lydia. They all lived at Castle Blunden in Kilkenny.
Is there anyone else researching this line, or anyone who has any information?
Regards,
Leeanne Blunden
Hello Leanne,
Well, I'm not sure if this is related exactly to your post, but I found you by googling 'Blunden' - but Alice Blunden is my 2 x great grandmother on my maternal line. (Alice married a Newman - he was born in Banstead but moved to Kent, tenant farmer) who married an Allingham, whose daughter was my mother.... Long story short, my mother told me that it was said there was Irish blood in the family, but she wasn't sure if it was on her mother's side or her father's. So far I've been unable to verify a link; BUT if my 2 x great-grandmother Alice Blunden turns out to be related to your family, perhaps that may be the link... I recently uploaded my DNA to MyHeritage, and one of the matches which came up was for a David Upson (aged 70's), whose mother was Dorothy Lillian Upson (born Blunden)... I have only recently messaged the Upson tree owner and am awaiting a response, so I am not sure how that will pan out.
Interestingly (or perhaps not!) going back to Thomas Blunden b1728, Ancestry suggest HIS father may be a Thomas BLUNDELL... the spooky thing is, my late paternal grandmother had tenants of that surname in Aldershot... what are the chances.... LOL. It may be a transcription error, I'll be looking into that.
Anyhow, I'll stop rambling - TBH I'm not sure if the Blundens are the Irish link of family lore, but it would be good to know if anything on my tree matches yours. And if you have any DNA information that might be another way to verify either way.
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Hey,
My Grandfather was John Blunden. He joined the IRB and ran away to London after getting into some kind of trouble during the rising. He changed his name to Blendell and was a waiter in the Ritz... I'm trying to find a birth certificate for him primarily and although he lived in Waterford before running to England, the coincidence of names is intriguing.
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Hey,
My Grandfather was John Blunden. He joined the IRB and ran away to London after getting into some kind of trouble during the rising. He changed his name to Blendell and was a waiter in the Ritz... I'm trying to find a birth certificate for him primarily and although he lived in Waterford before running to England, the coincidence of names is intriguing.
That's certainly an interesting story, Tobye! Always interesting when ancestors change their names! I hope you managed to find his birth certificate and more about him. :)
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Hi some information on your Blunden's A Lady Rosa Blunden of Blunden Castle ran off with a John Regan 1816, she a minor, he was a butcher and also a horse dealer, they came to live in High St (butcher's shop) Waterford city 1817, they had 10 children here in Waterford (2) a Robert Nicholson born 1803, married Frances Blunden of Manor St Waterford daughter of Mr. Medhope Blunden, gentleman JB
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Some information on Castle Blunden-
Detached seven-bay three-storey over basement Classical-style country house, c.1750.
https://www.buildingsofireland.ie/buildings-search/building/12401906/castle-blunden-castleblunden-kilkenny
A few miles from the cathedral city of Kilkenny, Castle Blunden stands on an elevated site in the midst of mature parkland.
https://www.ihh.ie/index.cfm/houses/house/name/Castle%20Blunden
Historic Environment Viewer – Castle Blunden
https://maps.archaeology.ie/historicenvironment/?REG_NO=12401906
GeoHive National Townland and Historical Map Viewer – Historic 25” Map
Castle Blunden B&W (1897-1913)
https://arcg.is/1j4n4S
Castleblunden townland
https://www.townlands.ie/kilkenny/kilkenny/st-patricks/kilkenny-rural/castleblunden/
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John, I recall seeing an article here about Lady Rosa Blunden who went off with a John Reagan. I cannot see the article anymore and I wonder if there is still information available about that story. Noller
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JB any more information on the Lady Rosa Blunden & John Reagan story? Noller
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http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/index.jsp
Some Blundens are listed in Will Calendars.
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Many thanks CC
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Welcome to RootsChat, Noller :)
Blundens also in the Tithe Applotment books 1833 for County Kilkenny.
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=Blunden&firstname=&county=Kilkenny&parish=&townland=&search=Search
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Thank you indeed. My line of enquiry is thus; MY GGG Grandparents are John Regan and Rose Blunden. Our line down from them is very straightforward with all our baptisms registered in Ballybricken Church i.e Trinity Without, Waterford. The only Rose that I can find of that period is indeed the descendant of the Blunden Castle clan. This Rose was baptised in St. John's Waterford in 1804. No marriage record found for her and Grandpa John. While our Rose was having a family with Grandpa John Regan, the 1821 Waterford census has her living at an address in Waterford with members of her own family. Two different Roses? That is the quandary!
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I can't identify Rose Blunden of Castle Blunden at all. No record of her baptism in either the RC Kilkenny churches or the archives if the C of I in Dublin. Like as she never existed....
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Have you come across the story of Harriet daughter of John III? She eloped to the US with Castleblunden gardener James Egan. Disowned by the family and written out of history. An elderly american Lady Harriet Egan contacted Castleblunden in the 1960s to reveal the story to a curious Sir William and Lady Pamela.
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Yep, I have read about that in a book about the Blundens. Amazing how they could write somebody out of history. Something like that appears to have been done to my gggrrand mother Rose Blunden who again eloped at a young age around 1817.