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Title: BLUNDEN
Post by: LeeanneB on Saturday 19 March 11 14:18 GMT (UK)
Hello,

I'm researching the Blunden's of Kilkenny.  Particularly any with links to Castle Blunden as this is where my family lived (lives). 

My biggest brick wall so far is Overington Blunden (b. cir 1600), father of Overington Blunden (b. bef 1630) who married Elizabeth Field in 1647 in Bisley, Surrey, England.  They had 6 children that I know of being John; Robert; Dorothy; Sarah; Mary and Lydia.  They all lived at Castle Blunden in Kilkenny.

Is there anyone else researching this line, or anyone who has any information?

Regards,
Leeanne Blunden
Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: Jack2227 on Thursday 24 March 11 05:08 GMT (UK)
No connection. Found these on Familysearch;

John Blunden;
b. 15/8/1767 Castle Blunden Kilkenny
d. 1/3/1818

Spouse; Hester Helsham;
b.about 1796 Kilkenny
Married; 1812 Kilkenny
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Catherine Rose Blunden;
b. 1770 Clonmore Kilkenny
d. 1840

Spouse; Edward Elliott
Married; before 1793
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Christopher Blunden;
b. 1768 Clonmore Kilkenny
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John Blunden;
b. 1766 Clonmore Kilkenny
d. bef. 1819 Annfield Kilkenny
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Simon Osborne Blunden;
b. about 1775 Clonmore Kilkenny
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Trevor Lloyd Blunden;
b. 1764 Clonmore Kilkenny
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Jack
Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: janinez on Thursday 24 March 11 05:29 GMT (UK)
Hi there have found this

Blunden  christening 4 May 1601 St Michael Paternoster Royal City of London

Can't quite read the transcription it is faded badly

Doesn't appear to have a name or parents on it
Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: janinez on Thursday 24 March 11 05:35 GMT (UK)
Burial

Overington Blunden Dec 1674 St Giles Cripplegate London
Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: janinez on Thursday 24 March 11 05:38 GMT (UK)
Robert Blunden christened 26 March 1598 Steyning, Sussex

Maybe a parish lookup would help or something. Some kind person may go have a look for you if you know where

sorry no parents or anything mentioned anywhere I can see

Blunden male christening 2 Sept 1603 Fletching, Sussex

Jone Blunden bapt 29 Dec 1605 Female
Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: janinez on Thursday 24 March 11 05:51 GMT (UK)
Just saw a tree in A and it has Overington Blunden born in Castlle Blunden, Kilkenny

Interesting maybe there is a castle there they all lived in oooohhhh - lucky you

maybe they have there own records or something - sorry don't know myself
Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: LeeanneB on Saturday 26 March 11 16:05 GMT (UK)
Thank you both for the information!! I really appreciate the time you took to check for me!

Janine - Castle Blunden does belong to my family :)  It's really more of a Manor House now though.  In 1667 Overington (the son of the Overington who is my brick wall) obtained a "grant of Glanmore, alias Clanmore, for the land and Manor House to be forever called Blunden's Castle, and other lands in County Kilkenny, Queens County and County Waterford, by patent dated 19 Feb 20 (1620?). Charles II in 1667." This is as per Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition.

Castle Blunden is still our family seat, so to speak, and the current Baronet of Castle Blunden, Hubert Chisholm Blunden 8th Bart, is my 6th cousin 1x removed.  I have photographs of Castle Blunden, but have never had the opportunity to go there myself, I very much want to though.  Anyway, to cut a long story short, they will most definitely have information there relevant to what I'm researching, I just need to find contact details for them somewhere :)

Where did you find the christening and burial info on Overington? That fits with dates I have for him and it very well might be his burial date...
Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: janinez on Monday 28 March 11 01:42 BST (UK)
Found it on the big A... site. It really is a world of wonders sometimes. Although in saying that it can also confuse you too !!

Not a lot else on there I could see that related to your side apart from a family tree in there that has a bit of info.
Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: LeeanneB on Monday 28 March 11 19:23 BST (UK)
Ok, I have an account there so I'll check.  Thanks again for checking for me!!
Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: john blunden on Sunday 02 October 11 19:31 BST (UK)
hi leeanne
just thought i drop by and say hello, i am hughs brother john, i see you trying to get past overington.....hum, well family folklore has it that family we royalists, but i think it was otherwise, i believe he was a officer on the other side ;D scock horror,my guess was that after the return of charles II all links to that past were buried, making it very hard to get any truth out of it ,if you can check cromwells army lists you might be suprised what you turn up ,just a friendly lead
Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: LeeanneB on Tuesday 19 February 13 20:04 GMT (UK)
Hello John,

After almost 2 years (and some computer trouble causing loss of information) I have finally made it back to this website, and I saw your reply to my Blunden query in the Kilkenny thread.  When you say you are brother to Hugh do you mean Hubert Chisholm? Making you (if my records are correct) John Maurice Patrick??
Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: john blunden on Wednesday 20 February 13 18:59 GMT (UK)
hi lee anne
well done your back ;D ok contact me at *
best john

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Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: LeeanneB on Thursday 21 February 13 11:16 GMT (UK)
Hi John

Back and very, very happy that you have replied!!  :D  :D

They've removed your e-mail address from your post though  :(

Please would you send me a private message with your e-mail address?  I would love to contact you!  The last time I tried sending you a private message it didn't want to go through as your inbox was full.

Kind regards,
Leeanne
Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: john blunden on Thursday 21 February 13 11:22 GMT (UK)
hi leeanne
will do just one thing finding hard to figure out how to get to private messages this place seems hard to fathom
best john
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Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: shanew147 on Thursday 21 February 13 11:24 GMT (UK)
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Please would you send me a private message with your e-mail address?  I would love to contact you!  The last time I tried sending you a private message it didn't want to go through as your inbox was full.
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you both have more than three posts now, so should now have full access to the Personal Message System. See the link above in reply#11.


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Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: LeeanneB on Thursday 21 February 13 11:26 GMT (UK)
Thanks Shane :)  I have just managed to get a message through to John
Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: grizzly1 on Friday 07 June 13 11:00 BST (UK)
Came across this grave in Tramore in Waterford, thought it may be of interest.
 MARY JOSEPH HYLAND CASTLEBLUNDEN KILKENNY 1861 AGED 25.
 WIFE OF JOSEPH P HYLAND.
 tried to post a pic but was unable to upload.
Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: LeeanneB on Saturday 15 June 13 16:07 BST (UK)
Hi grizzly1,

I'd be quite interested in seeing the pic - is it on a website somewhere or is it one that you took yourself?
Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: grizzly1 on Saturday 15 June 13 18:01 BST (UK)
hi Leanne I've just sent you a pm...the pic is too large to upload, I may be able to send it to you via email, Its a grave/headstone that caught my eye while I was in a graveyard in Tramore County Waterford...I took a photo of it.
Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: LeeanneB on Saturday 15 June 13 21:37 BST (UK)
Thank you! I've sent you an e-mail  :)
Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: conahy calling on Sunday 11 August 13 23:33 BST (UK)
some photos of Castle Blunden  at            www.buildingsofireland.ie
[reg no for Castle Blunden is 12401906
            entrance gates          12401905 
                   gateway              12401919
                  farmyard              12401920
                gate lodge              12401907
                ice house                12401915
[you can also get information about its garden in "garden" section of same site.  Includes aerial image and map image  :)


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Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: J.J. on Friday 11 December 15 17:59 GMT (UK)
Found this & knew you'd get a kick out of it.  Sorry it is in the wrong location, too lazy to seek out any London queries....
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~ingram/StSaviour/presentments.html
( also Christopher & Henry as Blundell inkeepers under Wills) basic infotranscribed on page
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~ingram/StSaviour/wills-b.html


1632 November; 1633 February to June...for being bad on the sabboth
Item   [we] present William Sherlock and Overington Blundon for suffering their servants to work on the Sabbath day in service time
Wonder if it is the Whitster I found for you many years ago on another site that no longer exists. Man I can't believe it was erased, how silly...all that information could have remained in Google cache. All that research from so many people...never to be found, just gone!!!

J.J.
Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: J.J. on Friday 11 December 15 22:19 GMT (UK)
more snippets...Hey,  building something new was probably the talk of the town...( they actually were keeping track to avoid sprawl... Like that worked  ;))
For the Parishe of St Sauiours in Southwarke                                           
[Endorsed:]  The returne of newe buildinges & warrant for the same       
The libty of old Paris garden wthin the said Parish of St Saviours as followeth
(A great list of buildings being erected in previous decades)
One stable built wth timber vppon a newe foundacion by William Hind worth 10s per Annum, Overington Blunden being nowe the tenant thereof.
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~ingram/StSaviour/foundations.html

and he was having a good stretch, excused a month's rent a few years later! https://books.google.ca/books?id=dVU4AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA365&lpg=PA365&dq="overington+blunden+"

 These occupations were extracted from christenings.... Overington  with occ Whitster, (listed along with with John (Overington?) Blunden) the other Overington as well, listed as a Guard...No date given, but so if you don't have all those christenings, they appear to have found them. The inkeepers Henry & George also listed as Blunden in there.
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~ingram/StSaviour/vocations.html

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/survey-london/vol22/pp94-100
Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: rathmore on Wednesday 16 December 15 12:47 GMT (UK)
Overington Blunden mentions on the peerage

http://www.thepeerage.com
Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: EJACKSON58 on Friday 29 November 19 23:00 GMT (UK)
Hello,

I'm researching the Blunden's of Kilkenny.  Particularly any with links to Castle Blunden as this is where my family lived (lives). 

My biggest brick wall so far is Overington Blunden (b. cir 1600), father of Overington Blunden (b. bef 1630) who married Elizabeth Field in 1647 in Bisley, Surrey, England.  They had 6 children that I know of being John; Robert; Dorothy; Sarah; Mary and Lydia.  They all lived at Castle Blunden in Kilkenny.

Is there anyone else researching this line, or anyone who has any information?

Regards,
Leeanne Blunden

Hello Leanne,

Well, I'm not sure if this is related exactly to your post, but I found you by googling 'Blunden' - but Alice Blunden is my 2 x great grandmother on my maternal line. (Alice married a Newman - he was born in Banstead but moved to Kent, tenant farmer) who married an Allingham, whose daughter was my mother.... Long story short, my mother told me that it was said there was Irish blood in the family, but she wasn't sure if it was on her mother's side or her father's. So far I've been unable to verify a link; BUT if my 2 x great-grandmother Alice Blunden turns out to be related to your family, perhaps that may be the link...  I recently uploaded my DNA to MyHeritage, and one of the matches which came up was for a David Upson (aged 70's), whose mother was Dorothy Lillian Upson (born Blunden)...  I have only recently messaged the Upson tree owner and am awaiting a response, so I am not sure how that will pan out. 

Interestingly (or perhaps not!) going back to Thomas Blunden b1728, Ancestry suggest HIS father may be a Thomas BLUNDELL... the spooky thing is, my late paternal grandmother had tenants of that surname in Aldershot... what are the chances.... LOL. It may be a transcription error, I'll be looking into that.

Anyhow, I'll stop rambling - TBH I'm not sure if the Blundens are the Irish link of family lore, but it would be good to know if anything on my tree matches yours. And if you have any DNA information that might be another way to verify either way.
Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: Tobye on Friday 27 December 19 12:27 GMT (UK)
Hey,

My Grandfather was John Blunden. He joined the IRB and ran away to London after getting into some kind of trouble during the rising. He changed his name to Blendell and was a waiter in the Ritz... I'm trying to find a birth certificate for him primarily and although he lived in Waterford before running to England, the coincidence of names is intriguing.
Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: EJACKSON58 on Friday 04 September 20 12:19 BST (UK)
Hey,

My Grandfather was John Blunden. He joined the IRB and ran away to London after getting into some kind of trouble during the rising. He changed his name to Blendell and was a waiter in the Ritz... I'm trying to find a birth certificate for him primarily and although he lived in Waterford before running to England, the coincidence of names is intriguing.

That's certainly an interesting story, Tobye!  Always interesting when ancestors change their names! I hope you managed to find his birth certificate and more about him.   :)
Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: J B on Sunday 28 November 21 11:21 GMT (UK)
Hi some information on your Blunden's A Lady Rosa Blunden of Blunden Castle ran off with a John Regan 1816, she a minor, he was a butcher and also a horse dealer, they came to live in High St (butcher's shop) Waterford city 1817, they had 10 children here in Waterford (2) a Robert Nicholson born 1803, married Frances Blunden of Manor St Waterford daughter of Mr. Medhope Blunden, gentleman JB 
Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Sunday 28 November 21 12:24 GMT (UK)

Some information on Castle Blunden-

Detached seven-bay three-storey over basement Classical-style country house, c.1750.
https://www.buildingsofireland.ie/buildings-search/building/12401906/castle-blunden-castleblunden-kilkenny

A few miles from the cathedral city of Kilkenny, Castle Blunden stands on an elevated site in the midst of mature parkland.
https://www.ihh.ie/index.cfm/houses/house/name/Castle%20Blunden

Historic Environment Viewer – Castle Blunden
https://maps.archaeology.ie/historicenvironment/?REG_NO=12401906

GeoHive National Townland and Historical Map Viewer – Historic 25” Map
Castle Blunden    B&W    (1897-1913)
https://arcg.is/1j4n4S

Castleblunden townland
https://www.townlands.ie/kilkenny/kilkenny/st-patricks/kilkenny-rural/castleblunden/


Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: Noller on Monday 31 July 23 15:33 BST (UK)
John, I recall seeing an article here about Lady Rosa Blunden who went off with a John Reagan. I cannot see the article anymore and I wonder if there is still information available about that story. Noller
Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: Noller on Monday 31 July 23 19:22 BST (UK)
JB any more information on the Lady Rosa Blunden & John Reagan story?  Noller
Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: conahy calling on Tuesday 01 August 23 08:42 BST (UK)
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/index.jsp

Some Blundens are listed in Will Calendars.
Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: Noller on Tuesday 01 August 23 08:56 BST (UK)
Many thanks CC
Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 01 August 23 09:46 BST (UK)

Welcome to RootsChat, Noller  :)

Blundens also in the Tithe Applotment books 1833 for County Kilkenny.

http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=Blunden&firstname=&county=Kilkenny&parish=&townland=&search=Search


Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: Noller on Tuesday 01 August 23 10:00 BST (UK)
Thank you indeed. My line of enquiry is thus; MY GGG Grandparents are John Regan and Rose Blunden.  Our line down from them is very straightforward with all our baptisms registered in Ballybricken Church i.e Trinity Without, Waterford.  The only Rose that I can find of that  period is indeed the descendant of the Blunden Castle clan. This Rose was baptised in St. John's Waterford in 1804.  No marriage record found for her and  Grandpa John.  While our Rose was having a family with Grandpa John Regan, the 1821 Waterford census has her living at an address in Waterford with members of her own family. Two different Roses?  That is the quandary!
Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: Noller on Thursday 28 September 23 14:36 BST (UK)
I can't identify Rose Blunden of Castle Blunden at all. No record of her baptism in either the RC Kilkenny churches or the archives if the C of I in Dublin. Like as she never existed....
Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: kennymclawrence on Thursday 18 January 24 01:32 GMT (UK)
Have you come across the story of Harriet daughter of John III? She eloped to the US with Castleblunden gardener James Egan. Disowned by the family and written out of history. An elderly american Lady Harriet Egan contacted Castleblunden in the 1960s to reveal the story to a curious Sir William and Lady Pamela.
Title: Re: BLUNDEN
Post by: Noller on Friday 19 January 24 13:49 GMT (UK)
Yep, I have read about that in a book about the Blundens. Amazing how they could write somebody out of history. Something like that appears to have been done to my gggrrand mother Rose Blunden who again eloped at a young age around 1817.