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HELLO,
I am looking for an Annie Grieg Collins (born 16/8/1870 and a William Grieg Collins Oct 1897.
The name Grieg does anyone know is it a proper name, irish ? or a surname. I have tried to find both but had no luck. I thought it might be their mums maiden name or something like that. They are from the Leeds area, along with Agusta Mercy Collins (13/8/1894), again a name i thought would be picked up easy.
Jo
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Hi
had a quick look but can't find any births registered with those names. I see you have some exact birth info, is that from a birth certificate?
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Hi,
Know it is from an oldfamily member now passed away, he kept a diary of all births and deaths but no other details so trying to piece them all together.
Such a strange name, not sure how to pronounce it either lol
Jo
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Are you sure of the spelling? We have Greig relatives but the family came from Scotland.
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Hi aghadowey
I am not sure, the diary is in Australia and i have had the info sent to me by a cousin, he found the diary in his attic. It might be spelt the other way, i dont know. Perhaps if i search spelling it other way i might get lucky ?
Jo
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Pronounciation well.....Greeg as in Grieg the Norwegian composer but Tamsin Grieg the actress is pronounced Gregg isnt she?
Then you can start looking for them as Gregg because the people collecting the census data didnt always get it write either and transcribers must put what they see.
As a middle name it shouldnt be too much trouble, but as you expect it to come from a family name later it may then.
There seem to be a nice lot up in Scotland,
http://www.loadsofpeople.co.uk
....perhaps came over from Norway?
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Thank you Wortle,
Just looked at that site, yes there are plenty up there. Sadly no Annie Maria's
Will try searching with different spellings
Jo
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You've got me there who is Annie Maria?
Another Grieg? Or is it Annie M G Collins....?
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Could you also clarify this bit from your first post?
I am looking for an Annie Grieg Collins (born 16/8/1870 and a William Grieg Collins Oct 1897.
... I thought it might be their mums maiden name or something like that. They are from the Leeds area, along with Agusta Mercy Collins (13/8/1894)
Why do you think Annie (born 1870) and William (born 1897) might be siblings? Annie's old enough to be William's mother and Agusta is only 3 years older than William.
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Hi aghadowey,
I just assumed as they had a larger number of children, perhaps i am looking at this all wrong, will never get to grips with this family....
To be honest not even sure if Agusta is part of same family, just guessing with year born so close to William.
Jo
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For what it's worth Grieg, the Norwegian composer, was of Scottish descent, the spelling of the family name being changed from the Scottish original.
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Hi,
My name is Greig, pronounced as Gregg!
Elin :)
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For what it's worth Grieg, the Norwegian composer, was of Scottish descent, the spelling of the family name being changed from the Scottish original.
It is worth...I thought it was one way traffic!
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Hello,
I put a request on here yesterday for help with some of my Collins family, now i have searched between 1880 and 1900 as most of them were born in this period and found none of them ? I am totally baffled, they are supposed to have been born in Leeds from what i have been told, not sure where to go now
Jo
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Hi,
An unusual name so I wonder?
Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
December 1908, Port of Yarmouth N.S.
Arrival: Dec 1908 St Albans, Vermont, United States
COLLINS Mrs Annie Age: 38 Married Wife
COLLINS (son) Wm Greig Age: 11 none
COLLINS ( " ) Arthur Joseph Age: 9
COLLINS (dau) Elsie Mary Victoria Age: 8
COLLINS (son) Harley Llyn Age: 8months
there is some writing above Harley's name c/a 1-265155-(B) Boston, Mass 12/1?/08 - B+yes G 3/28/39 sig (I've tried to transcribe it correctly but I've no idea what it means)
All of them...
Can read and write (apart from Harley)
Nationality: dittoed as Nova Scotia Canada
Race: English
Last permanent residence: dittoed Nova Scotia Canada, then address is Brooklyn Queen's co.
Nearest relative etc: no relatives
Final destination: Ohio, Saybrook
1910 US census Saybrook, Ashtabula, Ohio
COLLINS
William Head 47 Minister Ang Church year of immigration 1890
Annie G Wife 39 1893
Augusta M Daur 15
William G Son 11 1908
Arthur J Son 10 1908
Elsie M V Daur 9 1908
Harley L Son 2 1908
I found the columns about parentage quite confusing to transcribe, they are,
Place of birth Father's place of Birth Mother's place of birth
Eng. English Eng. English Eng. English William Snr
Australia English Australia English Australia English Annie G
Wisconsin Eng. English Australia English Augusta M
Can. English Eng. English Australia English All other children
So does this mean William Snr was born in England, Annie in Australia and all the children were born in Canada (except Augusta, Wisconsin)? Looks like it....
I found them in 1920 Chichester, Merrimack, New Hampshire,
COLLINS
William B? Head 56 Immigrated 1896 Minister
Annie G Wife 49 " 1909
Elsie M Daur 19 " 1909
Harley L Son 11 " 1909
Place of birth Father's place of Birth Mother's place of birth
England England England William Snr
Australia England England Annie G
Canada England Australia Elsie M and Harley L
I also found,
U.S. Naturalization Records Indexes, 1794-1995
William Greig COLLINS
No: 3411826
Residing at: 1847 Massachusetts Ave. Lexington
Age: 33
Issue Date: 24 Nov 1930
US District Court at Boston, Massachusetts
Petition No: 125880
Hope this helps,
Regards,
Daisy
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Just found them in 1901 Canada, with birthdates ;D
Ontario District: ? West Bruce Sub-District: Kincardine
COLLINS
William Head 31 May 1863 37 England W? Congregational clergyman Immigrated 1890
Annie Greig Wife 16 Aug 1870 30 Australia
Augusta M Daur 13 Aug 1894 6 U.S. W " 1896
William G Son 14 Oct 1897 3 O ?
Arthur J Son 20 Jun 1899 1 O ?
Elsie M V Daur 31 Dec 1900 3/12 O ?
Daisy
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Two births so far,
Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1911
Arthur Joseph COLLINS
DOB: 19 Jun 1899
Birth County: York
Ellie Mary Victoria COLLINS
DOB: 31 Dec 1900
Birth County: Bruce
Both with
Father's name: Wm Collins
Mother's name: Annie G Hood
So Annie might have been 'Annie Greig HOOD'.
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I've looked at the images of the above two births and Annie's name does look like HOOD, however they are images of "Schedule A" "County of Bruce" in alphabetical order. I wonder if the names have just been copied from an original register and if HOOD should actually be FLOOD
I thought this because I've found this Australian birth,
Annie Greig FLOOD
DOB: 16 Aug 1870
Father's name: Thomas Alfred FLOOD
Mother's name: Mary Ann GREIG
Birth Place: Queensland
There are other children to this couple,
Mercy Margaret 4 May 1872
Thomas Arthur 27 Oct 1873
Luke Hubbuck 28 Sep 1875
Matilda Henrietta 11 Mar 1879
but I can't see the images for any of them so I wonder if these transcriptions could be wrong and it should be HOOD :-\
Going round in circles now ;D
No, I think it is FLOOD as I've found this marriage (remembering that Annie says her parents are English)
Thomas Alfred FLOOD Dec Q 1864 Poplar 1c 1296
There is both Mary Ann GREIG and Mary Ann GRIGG with same details entered in the GRO index,
maybe they couldn't read her writing!
Regards,
Daisy
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Hello Daisy,
Thank you for all the details you have found, do you know of a site i could perhaps search to find any living family from the list you gave me ?
I will get on now an add this group to my tree.
A big thank you again :D
Jo
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The Social Security Death Index (available free on www.rootsweb.com) has William Collins, born 14 Oct. 1897, died June, 1977, last residence - Marathon, Monroe Co., Florida, last benefit - Burlington, Middlesex Co., Massachusetts, Social Security number issued in Ohio before 1951. The Florida death index shows Williams Greig Collins died in Monroe Co. on 30 Jun. 1977. He was born 14 Oct. 1897, and his race was listed as white.
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Hi,
Sorry not to have replied sooner.
RootsChat isn't used for searching for living relatives, we can't give out details of living people, maybe GenesReunited?
For searching for your Australian and American ancestors I think it might be best if you put a new post on the USA and Australian boards so people who have more expertise in these areas will be able to help. Link them to this post so that they can see what has already been found :)
Regards,
Daisy
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I am a friend of the Annie's Great grandson in the US via son William. Annie was raised by her aunt and uncle Capt. Luke Hubbuck and Mercy Flood. She married William Collins in Wisconsin. I have other information if you are still looking.
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Hello, I am descended for Annie's brother, Alfred FLOOD.
The children were all born in Queensland, soon after their parents emigrated from England.
The parents were Thomas FLOOD and Mary Ann GREIG. They were struggling in this new country, and when Mary Ann's childless sister visited with her husband, a ship's captain, they adopted Annie.
So Annie had a great life, travelling to different countries with her parents, and receiving a good education. She eventually married a preacher and settled in Canada then the USA.
The FLOOD family were originally from Norfolk, and had moved to London only to find work. John and Mercy GREIG lived in London.