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Title: Goth street, West Derby Lancs? 1877
Post by: njh on Friday 22 April 05 09:38 BST (UK)
HI everyone

My GG Grandparents came over from Ireland (not sure when - I also can't find their marriage).   Anyway they had their first child in Goth Street (Liverpool?) in 1877 before moving on to workington the following year.   

Does anyone know what Goth street was like - was it where many of the irish lived?

How can I find out if there is an electoral register for that year or the year before?

I am desperate to crack clues to find out when they came from ireland.

Catherine Hillen 1857 and William Traynor/Trainor 1855 are proving difficult....

Thanks, Nicola
Title: Re: Goth street, West Derby Lancs? 1877
Post by: njh on Sunday 30 October 05 17:20 GMT (UK)
All,

I am still trying to find out who lived at 9 Goth Street, Liverpool, west derby lancs in 1877.   does know where I can find this info?

Cheers
Title: Re: Goth street, West Derby Lancs? 1877
Post by: jacko-to on Monday 31 October 05 18:12 GMT (UK)
You could try Central Library in Liverpool and ask then if they have the relevant directories.

http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.html

The do have a fee based research service.

There is also a site:

http://www.historicaldirectories.org/

However I don't think that the time scale you want for the Liverpool area is on there.

Regards

Angie
Title: Re: Goth street, West Derby Lancs? 1877
Post by: Cedas on Monday 31 October 05 19:20 GMT (UK)
I have a reporduction of an 1850s map of Liverpool which shows some of West derby but not Goth street.  I bought it from Liverpool lIbrary and they do  have a wonderful collection of maps.  Definitely worth contacting them.
Title: Re: Goth street, West Derby Lancs? 1877
Post by: Ritchie on Friday 01 September 06 15:12 BST (UK)
Hi,
 I've just found this site today and registered.

I was born in Goth Street in 1947 and lived there until just before it was demolished in 1970. I can describe it for you if you wish?
Best regards
Brian
Title: Re: Goth street, West Derby Lancs? 1877
Post by: njh on Friday 01 September 06 15:18 BST (UK)
Wow that would be great if you could?  My ancestors had their first child number 9 Goth Street.......

Thanks, Nicola
Title: Re: Goth street, West Derby Lancs? 1877
Post by: Ritchie on Friday 01 September 06 16:34 BST (UK)
Well here goes, Goth Street off West Derby Road, one of 4 streets named after "peoples" IE Celt St, Goth St, Lombard St and Saxon Street.

We lived at no 45 last house on the left hand side walking up from West Derby Rd, so No 9 was the 5th house up.
The houses were as follows.... through the front door into long hall (we called it a lobby 2 doors on the right hand side and stairs straight ahead, 1st door was the "parlour" (only used on high days and holidays), 2nd door led into the "kitchen" used for everything,eating, sitting and getting washed in front of the big range. Leading off this room was another door leading into the back kitchen which consisted of a gas cooker, larder and a Belfast sink with one tap (cold water) this room you cooked in also housed the "coal hole" under the stairs and every couple of weeks (if you could afford it) the coalman emptied 2 bags of coal into it, result lots of coal dust. So much for hygiene!! Outside in the yard was the loo, oh such joy in the middle of winter!!

 Back in the house and when you went upstairs, at the top of the stairs facing you was the smallest room (called the box room,) you then turned right and you were facing the back bedroom and then you faced back toward the front of the house to get to the front bedroom.
That basically was the houses in Goth street.

At the West Derby Rd end of the street there was a Pub on one corner and an old fashioned grocers shop on the other.
I hope you can make sense of all this, not very good on written descriptions I'm afraid.
Best regards
Brian
Title: Re: Goth street, West Derby Lancs? 1877
Post by: njh on Friday 01 September 06 16:46 BST (UK)
Brian

Thank you so very much for this.   Were all of the houses terraced?

Rgds, Nicola
Title: Re: Goth street, West Derby Lancs? 1877
Post by: Ritchie on Friday 01 September 06 16:48 BST (UK)
Sorry, meant to say that on the outside they were flat fronted houses, the front door led straight onto the pavement and the parlour window was flat fronted as well.
Regards
Brian

PS yes , they were all terraced also had 3 gas lamps in the street. We actually had electricity put into the house in 1962!!
Title: Re: Goth street, West Derby Lancs? 1877
Post by: Ritchie on Friday 01 September 06 16:53 BST (UK)
Will have to log out now as I'm in work and it's time to go.
If you have any more questions ,please ask.
regards
Brian
Title: Re: Goth street, West Derby Lancs? 1877
Post by: Lido on Saturday 18 February 12 13:07 GMT (UK)
Hi Brian, I lived in 35 Goth street until I left in 1962,and remember you and your mum very well. I was wondering if you are in contact with anyone from the street or have any photo's. I am gathering information and photo's of people and memories of their time in the street, for a book. I would be grateful for any help you can give me. Hope you are well. Kind Regards, Margaret.
Title: Re: Goth street, West Derby Lancs? 1877
Post by: PatIngham on Monday 04 March 13 14:43 GMT (UK)
Hi,
 I am Pat Inghams grand daughter we have just been searching for a few People and seen this forum. She lived at number 17 with her mother and father George and Hedda Ingham and her 3 brothers Denny, Tony and Peter Ingham. Doreen Hindley from number 8 was her best friend. She says she remembers Brian Richie and Brian Dixon as he was a friend of her brother Peter.
Title: Re: Goth street, West Derby Lancs? 1877
Post by: gazevans1 on Saturday 13 July 13 17:29 BST (UK)
Hi, does anyone remember or know of the Evanses who lived at 6 Goth Street?  David Thomas Evans & his wife Sarah Jane Evans had 8 sons (John Watkin Evans married in 1919 & Richard Evans married in 1928) and one daughter (Carrie b.1911).  David died in 1947 & Sarah died in 1958.  Gaz
Title: Re: Goth street, West Derby Lancs? 1877
Post by: garstonite on Sunday 14 July 13 09:39 BST (UK)
For original post - here is a map for Goth st
http://www.liverpoolhistoryprojects.co.uk/liverpoolaz/streets.htm#G
Title: Re: Goth street, West Derby Lancs? 1877
Post by: gothstreetliverpool on Wednesday 21 February 18 19:53 GMT (UK)
Hi just found site I grow up in goth street in comer shop run by my gran Ruane happy times there until area pulled down when to st michaels junior school near by off west derby road goth street all house neat tidy front door opened on to street cobble stone road at other end of street houses had very small gap between front door then to street but posher near end a vets bag wash wardhouses then empty lead to busy road to shops at that time big sandstone buildings poss multi flats were empty ready to pulled down.goth street end had a pub opposite a shop.left of shop on west derby road led rock lane a busy shopping area.to the right of pub west derby road led long road when shops to st michaels knew school and further on to liverpool town centre.opersite the pub a main busy road small hills man made and tall blocks of flats.opp my grans shop on comer a small square of waste ground lead to very tall bricked building which had dairy.gad happy time living there good people there
Title: Re: Goth street, West Derby Lancs? 1877
Post by: Lombard Street on Monday 11 February 19 00:51 GMT (UK)
Hello,

My Dad and his family lived on Lombard Street for several years, Dad was born there in 1942. Never really spoke about it, they moved to a flat above a butchers somewhere in West Derby, no idea where though. Been lovely to read the messages, and get a kind of feel of what it must have been like. Their surname was Cullen, 9 kids, Sheila, Jimmy, Francis also known as Frank, Colette, Kevin, Henry, Doreen, Valda, Keith, he died about 10 years old, not hundred percent sure, but I believe he was riding his bike and he went under a lorry, died at the scene. Anyone remember them? Father was an electrician called Richard, Mother was called Ethel.


Title: Re: Goth street, West Derby Lancs? 1877
Post by: Les1954 on Saturday 11 April 20 00:15 BST (UK)
Hi, I'm 66 years old and live in New Zealand. My parents died when I was 9 and 10. I went to live with my Gran in Goth Street and stayed there till they demolished the street. I can't remember what the street number was, it was either 41 or 44, the left hand side of the street from West Derby Rd. My Grans name was Mary Wilson and she lived in the house before the war. Her next door neighbor was her sister and they had a daughter called Joan. Joan had a boyfriend called Ron Clayton. Unfortunately Joan passed away before she could marry Ron, she was about 35 ish.  I was a paperboy for the newsagents around the corner on West Derby road for a while and Goth Street was on my run. When I was 14 or so I had an after school job at the local cobblers, I used to deliver repaired shoes to customers on the shop bike (just like Arkwrights) after School and on Saturday mornings.