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Title: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: kieran257 on Sunday 03 April 11 12:22 BST (UK)
Hi all,

I am hoping that someone will be able to take photos of headstones for McGuigan and Donoughy.    I am looking for a Michael McGuigan and Catherine McGuigan nee Donoughy and there children Susan, James, John Catherine and Ellen.

I would do it myself but unfortunately I live in England so it is not that easy.

Any help would be more than appreciated as I am completing this research for an elderly aunt.

Thank you for all your help

Kieran
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 03 April 11 13:21 BST (UK)
Which graveyard? and are you sure there are actually headstones to photograph?
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: kieran257 on Sunday 03 April 11 13:50 BST (UK)
Hi aghadowey,

It would be the Roman Catholic graveyard.  I am not sure of there are headstones but I am hoping that there are.

Thanks

Kieran

PS I don't know the area at all
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 03 April 11 17:57 BST (UK)
There are only 3 graveyards in Garvagh itself (attatched to St. Paul's Parish Church, First Garvagh Presbyterian Church and Main St./2nd Garvagh Presbyterian Church.
There are four places outside Garvagh where Catholics could be buried- really just depends on where they lived. There are graveyards at both chapels (known Boleran and Glenullin) and 2 very early burying grounds (Desertoghill and Errigal) where very few legible headstones are standing.
A bit farther away are 2 chapels near Swatragh, etc.
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: kieran257 on Friday 08 April 11 03:50 BST (UK)
Hi aghadowey,

Thanks for your reply.  I have made some headway since.  The family lived in a townland called Dunavenny which is in Slaght, Co Londonderry.

This is the family in the 1901 census

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Slaght/Dunavenny/1520412/

and them in the 1911 census

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Slaght/Dunnavenny/591480/

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Slaght/Dunnavenny/591479/

Thanks for all your help


Kieran
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 08 April 11 07:56 BST (UK)
Dunnavenny is in Errigal Parish (Slaght is the D.E.D. in the census) which narrows it down to 2 two graveyards- old Errigal burying-ground (very few headstones) and the chapel at Glenullin (lots of headstones).
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: kieran257 on Monday 18 April 11 00:01 BST (UK)
Hi aghadowey,

Thanks for all your help with this.  Do you know what RC graveyard would cover Agivey, Mullaghmore, Aghadowey, Co Derry.  As my grandfathers wife was Dempsey from there and I would love to try and find the headstones to complete my research.

Thanks for all your help

Kieran
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 18 April 11 00:05 BST (UK)
Dempseys buried in old Agivey burying-ground for many years- only most recent Dempsey burials at St. Mary's. Only 5 Dempsey headstones in Agivey.
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: kieran257 on Monday 18 April 11 00:57 BST (UK)
Hi aghadowey,

Thanks for your reply.  Do you happen to know the names on the five headstones?
I can give you the names of the people on the headstones that I am trying to find.

Thanks for all you help

Kieran
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 18 April 11 01:01 BST (UK)
What are the names?
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: kieran257 on Monday 18 April 11 01:46 BST (UK)
Hi aghadowey,

Parents were called James Dempsey and Sarah Dougherty.
Mark born in 1865
John born in 1866
Hugh born in 1874
Mary Jane born in 1879
Mary born in 1881
Elizabeth born in 1870 but she died in Scotland

Thanks for all your help

Kieran
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 18 April 11 12:44 BST (UK)
No headstones but your dates are a bit off.

James Dempsey, bleacher, Mullaghmore & Cornamucklagh, and wife Sarah had 11 children-
1. Saragh born 10 Apr.1864 Aghadowey dist.
2. John born 30 July 1866 Aghadowey dist.
3. Mark born 25 May 1868 Aghadowey dist.-1869.
4. Elizabeth born 15 Aug.1870 Mullaghmore.
5. Mark born 25 May 1872 Aghadowey dist.
6. Hugh born 11 Sept.1874 Aghadowey dist.
7. James born 16 Jan.1877 Mullaghmore.
8. Mary Jane born 15 May 1879 Aghadowey dist.
9. Mary born 16 Jan.1881 Aghadowey dist.
10. John born c1883.
11. child.
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: kieran257 on Monday 18 April 11 13:52 BST (UK)
Hi aghadowey,

Thanks for your reply. Thanks for all the information do you know if any of them got married or when any of them died?

Thanks for all your help

Kieran
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 18 April 11 13:55 BST (UK)
James, Sarah and 7 of the children alive in 1911. I don't have any further details.
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: tmboggskc on Friday 18 January 13 10:58 GMT (UK)
User Aghadowey, my Great Great Grandfather was James Dempsey (1877).  Where did you get your information for the list of his siblings?  Is there anymore information about his parents, James Dempsey and Sarah Dougherty?  Thanks for your help!
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 18 January 13 11:01 GMT (UK)
I've been collecting Dempseys for years  :)

Am waiting for a phone call but will have a look through my files shortly.

Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: tmboggskc on Friday 18 January 13 11:07 GMT (UK)
Thanks for helping me out.  I know that James Dempsey (1877) married Mary McKay in Scotland - their daughter, Marold Grant, is my Great Grandmother.  I have quite a bit on the McKay's, but nothing on the Dempsey's.  Anything you could provide would be great.
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 18 January 13 11:53 GMT (UK)
Most of the children of James Dempsey & Sarah Dougherty are listed in extracted Irish births at www.familysearch.org.

Your great-grandfather is listed here-
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGFF-8LB
Note: father's birthplace is not listed on birth certificates- this is the residence of the family and when LDS indicates this it usually means the child was born in a different townland than where the family was living at the time.

In the 1901 census the family are in Cornamucklagh:
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Agivey/Cornamuclagh/1516103
Same townland in 1911:
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Agivey/Cornamuclagh/652013
Note: Joseph Hogg or Dempsey was probably their grandson- there is a birth reg. in 1896 for a Joseph Dempsey but no Joseph Hogg in the area around the same period.

The marriage of James & Sarah was before the start of civil registration of Catholic marriages so I don't have his father's name. James was a bleacher at Mullaghmore and they likely lived in one of the houses associated with Barklie's bleach green there. Barklies ran into financial difficulties and by 1901 James Dempsey is a labourer working on local roads.

Here's a picture of the chapel the family would have attended in later years-
http://www.discovereverafter.com/graveyards/80/coleraine-aghadowey-our-lady-of-the-assumption-rc-church
No headstones for your Dempseys seem to exist- it's possible they never had the money to put up a headstone. Previously there was a chapel at Mullaghinch (also known as Bovagh Chapel) but after it fell into disrepair the local Catholics met in various places (including Dick Toye's barn) until they obtained permission to build St. Mary's. There were no burials at the old chapel- the old Dempsey burying ground would have been at the old pre-Reformation graveyard at Agivey.
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: tmboggskc on Friday 18 January 13 20:40 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much!  This will really help me out.
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 18 January 13 20:55 GMT (UK)
Would love to be able to connect them to other Dempseys here but they all used same names over and over again. If you get any more details will see if I can get anything else for you.
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: kieran257 on Friday 18 January 13 23:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Aghadowey,

There used to be a Moira Dempsey who it was thought that she was related to this family of Dempseys but she died.  However, she had a family tree of the Dempseys going away away back generations.

Hope this helps

Kieran
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 18 January 13 23:55 GMT (UK)
I knew Moira quite well and yes she had the Dempsey family tree that had been done a number of years earlier on brown paper with pencil. All the Dempseys are probably related but the problem is linking them up.
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: kieran257 on Saturday 19 January 13 16:38 GMT (UK)
Hi Agghadowey,

It looks like three of the Dempsey children died young.  This is what I found

Mark Dempsey, age 1, 1869 Coleraine registration district,  volume 11 page 304
Mary Jane Dempsey, age 0, Oct./Dec.1879 Coleraine registration district, volume 1, page 367
John Dempsey, age 31, July/Sept.1914 Coleraine registration district, volume 1, page 325

So with this that is 5 of the children accounted for

Kieran
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 19 January 13 17:51 GMT (UK)
Mark Dempsey, age 1, 1869 Coleraine registration district,  volume 11 page 304
I already listed his death is 1869 (reply #11)

Mary Jane Dempsey, age 0, Oct./Dec.1879 Coleraine registration district, volume 1, page 367
sister Mary was born 1881

John Dempsey, age 31, July/Sept.1914 Coleraine registration district, volume 1, page 325
possibly

Actually, 4 of the 11 Dempsey children were dead by 1911.
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: confusion on Saturday 19 January 13 21:54 GMT (UK)
Without appearing to hijack this thread, I too, have a Dempsey in my tree.

William Dempsey b abt 1894 and lived at Balnameen married a much younger woman,
Mary Taggart about 1946-50 but, sadly died after a tragic road accident in Feb 1965 in Birmingham.
(Knocked over and killed on a zebra crossing).

Don't know whether this has any relevance to the other Dempsey's in this thread but who knows?

Also my grandparents lived in Garvagh, (where my mother and her sister Mary were brought up)

James Hamilton b 1879 d abt 1955 buried? at Garvagh 1st. Presbyterian Church.
Emma Hamilton (wife) b 1897 d 1987 buried? St Pauls' C of I.
Emma was a cleaner at St Pauls for many years.

Kind regards

Jim

Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 19 January 13 22:23 GMT (UK)
Having a look through some files now...
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 19 January 13 23:04 GMT (UK)
Do you know the name of William's parents? I can't see a William Dempsey the right age in 1901/1911 census.
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: confusion on Sunday 20 January 13 00:03 GMT (UK)

Aghadowey:
Sorry, I have no other details than what I posted. William may have been previously married, seeing the age he was, when he died (aged 71).
I didn't find any details of him in the 1901/11 census either. He could have been born anywhere?

It was a very long shot on my part to say the least but, something may come to light in the future.

Thanks for looking.

Jim
 
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 20 January 13 10:31 GMT (UK)
Do you have William's marriage certificate? that would give status (single, widowed or divorced) and hopefully father's name and occupation.

I have lots of records pertaining to families in Balnameen but can't pinpoint William Dempsey there. Am wondering if he could have been known as William _ (another surname).
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: Jacgal on Thursday 16 February 17 20:31 GMT (UK)
My Grandad was William Dempsey came from Garvagh, apparently he was a Sergeanr Major in the Army at one time. My Dad told me he was run over by a lorry in England. My Dad had a brother Bill and two sisters one was Mary cant remember the name of the other sister there could have been more. Wonder if this is the same person.

Jac
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 16 February 17 22:00 GMT (UK)
My Grandad was William Dempsey came from Garvagh, apparently he was a Sergeanr Major in the Army at one time. My Dad told me he was run over by a lorry in England. My Dad had a brother Bill and two sisters one was Mary cant remember the name of the other sister there could have been more. Wonder if this is the same person.

Jac
Do you know when he was born? parents' names? any other details?
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: Jacgal on Sunday 19 February 17 11:37 GMT (UK)
My Grandad was William Dempsey came from Garvagh, apparently he was a Sergeanr Major in the Army at one time. My Dad told me he was run over by a lorry in England. My Dad had a brother Bill and two sisters one was Mary cant remember the name of the other sister there could have been more. Wonder if this is the same person.

Jac
Do you know when he was born? parents' names? any other details?

[quote author=Jacgal link=topic=524559.msg6172303#msg6172303 date
My Grandad was William Dempsey came from Garvagh, apparently he was a Sergeanr Major in the Army at one time. My Dad told me he was run over by a lorry in England. My Dad had a brother Bill and two sisters one was Mary cant remember the name of the other sister there could have been more. Wonder if this is the same person.

Jac
My Grandad was William Dempsey came from Garvagh, apparently he was a Sergeanr Major in the Army at one time. My Dad told me he was run over by a lorry in England. My Dad had a brother Bill and two sisters one was Mary cant remember the name of the other sister there could have been more. Wonder if this is the same person.

Jac
Do you know when he was born? parents' names? any other details?
[/quote

Just spoken to my Mum and my Grandad William Dempsey was killed in Birmingham. My Dad Robert James Dempsey was born in 1930 so Mary Taggart would have been Williams second wife as I know my Grandmother left William and moved to England. My Dad's brother also William married a Mary in Ireland but later he moved to England. I know he had 2 sons who were Alastair and Jack and daughters but she can't remember their names (long time ago). She also can't remember my Dad's sisters names, I know this is all a bit vague but my Mum is 82.
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 19 February 17 11:51 GMT (UK)
A William M. Dempsey, age 77 died 1959 Birmingham district- could this be him? if not, when did he die? age at death will give us an idea of when he was born

See reply #34
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 19 February 17 11:59 GMT (UK)
Another possible death?
William H. Dempsey, age 74, died 1960 Birmingham district

Born c1886 so might be this William Henry Dempsey-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Garvagh/Trienaltenagh/1519809


see next post
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 19 February 17 12:10 GMT (UK)
Going back through this whole thread is the following post from 2013 which sounds like your William Dempsey-
Without appearing to hijack this thread, I too, have a Dempsey in my tree.
William Dempsey b abt 1894 and lived at Balnameen married a much younger woman,
Mary Taggart about 1946-50 but, sadly died after a tragic road accident in Feb 1965 in Birmingham.
(Knocked over and killed on a zebra crossing).
Don't know whether this has any relevance to the other Dempsey's in this thread but who knows?
Also my grandparents lived in Garvagh, (where my mother and her sister Mary were brought up)
...
Unfortunately, Jim (user name confusion) never responded to query about marriage certificate.
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: Jacgal on Sunday 19 February 17 12:25 GMT (UK)
Going back through this whole thread is the following post from 2013 which sounds like your William Dempsey-
Without appearing to hijack this thread, I too, have a Dempsey in my tree.
William Dempsey b abt 1894 and lived at Balnameen married a much younger woman,
Mary Taggart about 1946-50 but, sadly died after a tragic road accident in Feb 1965 in Birmingham.
(Knocked over and killed on a zebra crossing).
Don't know whether this has any relevance to the other Dempsey's in this thread but who knows?
My Grandad was William Dempsey came from Garvagh, apparently he was a Sergeanr Major in the time
My Grandad was William Dempsey came from Garvagh, apparently he was a Sergeanr Major in the Army at one time. My Dad told me he was run over by a lorry in England. My Dad had a brother Bill and two sisters one was Mary cant remember the name of the other sister there could have been more. Wonder if this is the same person.

Jac
Army at one time. My Dad told me he was run over by a lorry in England. My Dad had a brother Bill and two sisters one was Mary cant remember the name of the other sister there could have been more. Wonder if this is the same person.

Jac
Do you know when he was born? parents' names? any other details?

[quote author=Jacgal link=topic=524559.msg6172303#msg6172303 date
My Grandad was William Dempsey came from Garvagh, apparently he was a Sergeanr Major in the Army at one time. My Dad told me he was run over by a lorry in England. My Dad had a brother Bill and two sisters one was Mary cant remember the name of the other sister there could have been more. Wonder if this is the same person.

Jac
My Grandad was William Dempsey came from Garvagh, apparently he was a Sergeanr Major in the Army at one time. My Dad told me he was run over by a lorry in England. My Dad had a brother Bill and two sisters one was Mary cant remember the name of the other sister there could have been more. Wonder if this is the same person.

Jac
Do you know when he was born? parents' names? any other details?
[/quote

Just spoken to my Mum and my Grandad William Dempsey was killed in Birmingham. My Dad Robert James Dempsey was born in 1930 so Mary Taggart would have been Williams second wife as I know my Grandmother left William and moved to England. My Dad's brother also William married a Mary in Ireland but later he moved to England. I know he had 2 sons who were Alastair and Jack and daughters but she can't remember their names (long time ago). She also can't remember my Dad's sisters names, I know this is all a bit vague but my Mum is 82.
Also my grandparents lived in Garvagh, (where my mother and her sister Mary were brought up)
...
Unfortunately, Jim (user name confusion) never responded to query about marriage certificate.

So now know my Grandmothers name was Rose who was married to William had 4 children, Robert, William, Mary and the other girl unknown name.  The younger William know as Bill married Mary and lived in Ballameen had two boys Alastair and Jack and we think either one or two girls. Robert Dempsey married Alice Piggott in London and had a boy Robert and a girl Jacqueline. My Dads older sister Mary died quite young.   So I know confused post was a long time ago would be nice if he saw this information perhaps would clear a few things up.
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 19 February 17 12:31 GMT (UK)
Probably best not to keep quoting in each post as numerous quotes make the whole post too long and difficult to follow and remember not to post details of anyone who might still be living  ;)

Off to look up a few things in files here...
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 19 February 17 13:08 GMT (UK)
Think things have gotten very confused here  :-\

William Dempsey killed in Birmingham-
was he William Henry Dempsey? did he serve in WWI and was gassed in a fluke accident involving a dead horse?
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: Jacgal on Sunday 19 February 17 16:00 GMT (UK)
Yes his name was William Henry cant say about the gas incident. My Dad passed away some years ago so it's only what my Mum can remember
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 19 February 17 16:15 GMT (UK)
Okay- you still have Dempsey relatives in Garvagh  :)

According to what his nephew said, William Henry Dempsey lived at Trinaltinagh, near railway, with an aunt and uncle and worked as boot/shoemaker before WWI. During the war he was burying dead horses (not a pleasant task) that had gotten gassed and one exploded, He survived the war, dying in an accident in England.

Here's William Henry Dempsey in 1901 with the aunt and uncle- age 15 so born c1886-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Garvagh/Trienaltenagh/1519809

By 1911 aunt & uncle were living in Boveedy (still not that far from Garvagh)-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Hervey_Hill/Bovedy/591544

Uncle William Dempsey married 21 Nov.1882 Finvoy Presbyterian Church, Co. Antrim, to Mary Jane Canning- his residence listed as Dirraw townland, Finvoy Parish-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1882/10980/8014038.pdf

I suspect that this is your William Dempsey's death-
Another possible death?
William H. Dempsey, age 74, died 1960 Birmingham district

Born c1886 so might be this William Henry Dempsey-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Garvagh/Trienaltenagh/1519809

Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 19 February 17 16:26 GMT (UK)
William Dempsey married 3 April 1933 Coleraine district to Rose McAtamney. GRONI will have the certificate available to view. If he was illegitimate then father's name unlikely to be listed.

If you want contact details for your relative in Garvagh send me a PM and I'll give you the details.
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: Jacgal on Tuesday 21 February 17 06:42 GMT (UK)
Thanks for all the info but having spoken further to my Mum my Dad was enstranged from his family so I am going to respect his wishes and not go any further with this although I find it fascinating and may one day visit to see where he was born
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: confusion on Tuesday 21 February 17 21:07 GMT (UK)

It has been interesting reading these updated posts and I can only add that this is one
brickwall that I couldn't break. I gave up with this line after finding NO marriage records
for William (aka Willie) Dempsey and Mary Taggart and No birth records for any of their and
her subsequent children especially knowing their names and their ages.

Unfortunately, this is one line of my family history that possibly will never be completely
satisfied. Who knows what the future will bring? I may return to it again one day.

Kind regards

Jim
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 21 February 17 21:41 GMT (UK)
It has been interesting reading these updated posts and I can only add that this is one brickwall that I couldn't break. I gave up with this line after finding NO marriage records for William (aka Willie) Dempsey and Mary Taggart and No birth records for any of their and her subsequent children especially knowing their names and their ages.
Unfortunately, this is one line of my family history that possibly will never be completely satisfied. Who knows what the future will bring? I may return to it again one day.
Kind regards
Jim
Only births 100 years or older will be in GRONI's online database or scanned images on Irish Genealogy site.
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: ECDW on Monday 10 December 18 18:50 GMT (UK)
No
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 10 December 18 20:49 GMT (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat, ECDW, but you seem to have deleted what you originally posted  :-\
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: John Dempsey on Friday 19 July 19 18:33 BST (UK)
My dad was William Henry dempsey.
Married to Mary Emma taggart my dad moved to Birmingham and was knocked down by a lorry on a zebra crossing will going to the post office .date of death 28th march1960 aged 74
Date of burial April 5th 1960
Lived in pershore road Birmingham 
Was buried at lodge hill cemetery
Sellyoak b295aa
My day was prev married to a Simpson
Was down on my birth cert as retired shoe maker was from balinameen garvagh .had sons 1 was bill who died last year and was the last of his siblings
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: ECDW on Monday 02 September 19 21:59 BST (UK)
My grandad was William Henry Dempsey and grandmother was Rose Mcatamany.
William was gased in the war and died in England after being run over I was told by a tram!
Rose Mcatamany moved to England in about 1956 with her daughter Elizabeth Canning Dempsey born 1940, Rose died of cancer in about 1957.
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: ECDW on Wednesday 04 September 19 12:19 BST (UK)
My grandad was William Henry Dempsey and grandmother was Rose Mcatamany.
William was gased in the war and died in England after being run over I was told by a tram!
Rose Mcatamany moved to England in about 1956 with her daughter Elizabeth Canning Dempsey born 1940 brother William married to Mary lived in garvagh. Rose died of cancer in about 1957.
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: TABRE on Monday 24 April 23 19:50 BST (UK)
Hi  :)
Apologies if this isn’t the correct way to address a previous post  :-\ but I’m very new to this and trying to navigate through it.  ???

I have been trying to gather any information with regards to the previously mentioned William Henry Dempsey (1886-1960) who died in a traffic accident in Birmingham UK … he’s my maternal great grandfather and I’ve been trying (unsuccessfully) to find his birth parents -

I know he was raised by his uncle and aunt (William Dempsey b1864 d8/11/1933/ Mary Jane Dempsey(nee Canning b1865 d24/10/1945) Both buried in Bovedy Presbyterian Church, where according to the 1911 census, was the area they lived.

 I know that William Dempsey’s father was called James Dempsey and was a labourer - again, have come to a dead end trying to find any information about him also.

Would really appreciate any help pointing me in the right direction.  :)


 
Do you have William's marriage certificate? that would give status (single, widowed or divorced) and hopefully father's name and occupation.

I have lots of records pertaining to families in Balnameen but can't pinpoint William Dempsey there. Am wondering if he could have been known as William _ (another surname).
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: confusion on Tuesday 25 April 23 22:44 BST (UK)
Welcome Tabre,

Is this the elusive William Henry Dempsey?

Birth: Magherafelt
Henry Dempsey 27 Jun 1885 at Upperland
Father: James Dempsey occ:labourer
Mo:Elizabeth Dempsey formerly Canning

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1885/02639/1973209.pdf (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1885/02639/1973209.pdf)

Marriage: 8 Aug 1881 by licence at the Presbyterian Church, Swatera, Magherafelt
James C Dempsey age 20 bachelor occ:labourer of Gortade Fa: James Dempsey occ:labourer
Lizzie Canning age 18 spinster of Gortade Fa: Robert Canning occ:labourer

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1881/11008/8024978.pdf (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1881/11008/8024978.pdf)


Marriage: 21 March 1882 by licence at Presbyterian Church Finvoy, Ballymoney
William Dempsey age minor bachelor occ:labourer of Dirraw Parish of Finvoy Fa:James Dempsey occ:labourer
Mary Jane Canning age minor spinster of Kilrea Parish of Kilrea Fa:Robert Canning occ:shopkeeper 

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1882/10980/8014038.pdf (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1882/10980/8014038.pdf)

I'm not sure if Willie Dempsey and Mary Taggart got married, so I can't locate a marriage record.
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Wednesday 26 April 23 07:20 BST (UK)

Welcome to RootsChat, Tabre  :)

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Marriage: 8 Aug 1881 by licence at the Presbyterian Church, Swatera, Magherafelt
James C Dempsey age 20 bachelor occ:labourer of Gortade Fa: James Dempsey occ:labourer
Lizzie Canning age 18 spinster of Gortade Fa: Robert Canning occ:labourer

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1881/11008/8024978.pdf


Gorteade townland in the civil parish of Maghera.
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/loughinsholin/maghera/swatragh/gorteade/

https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4828878#map=13/54.8936/-6.6460


Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 26 April 23 22:05 BST (UK)
A few things that I don't think have been mentioned yet-

1911 census shows William Dempsey, age 25, single, born Ireland, bootmaker in the Army-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7V7-3Z8

His birth registration shows father James Dempsey was living in Scotland so that might be the place to search further for his parents.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1885/02639/1973209.pdf
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 26 April 23 22:30 BST (UK)
Marriage of James C.Dempsey to Elizabeth Canning gives his full name as James Carson Dempsey in his signature-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1881/11008/8024978.pdf

James Carson Dempsey of Rasharkin was the informant for the death of James Dempsey also of Rasharkin on 21 June 1880, a married labourer. This is likely to be James C. Dempsey's father.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1880/06480/4864371.pdf
Title: Re: Photos of headstones in Garvagh Graveyard
Post by: TABRE on Thursday 27 April 23 20:39 BST (UK)
Thank you so much for the information you’ve passed on - I appreciate it massively!
Am currently looking through the links you’ve posted and have a bit more to go on now for sure …  :)
The Scotland connection is definitely an interesting part of the puzzle!!


Welcome Tabre,

Is this the elusive William Henry Dempsey?

Birth: Magherafelt
Henry Dempsey 27 Jun 1885 at Upperland
Father: James Dempsey occ:labourer
Mo:Elizabeth Dempsey formerly Canning

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1885/02639/1973209.pdf (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1885/02639/1973209.pdf)

Marriage: 8 Aug 1881 by licence at the Presbyterian Church, Swatera, Magherafelt
James C Dempsey age 20 bachelor occ:labourer of Gortade Fa: James Dempsey occ:labourer
Lizzie Canning age 18 spinster of Gortade Fa: Robert Canning occ:labourer

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1881/11008/8024978.pdf (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1881/11008/8024978.pdf)


Marriage: 21 March 1882 by licence at Presbyterian Church Finvoy, Ballymoney
William Dempsey age minor bachelor occ:labourer of Dirraw Parish of Finvoy Fa:James Dempsey occ:labourer
Mary Jane Canning age minor spinster of Kilrea Parish of Kilrea Fa:Robert Canning occ:shopkeeper 

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1882/10980/8014038.pdf (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1882/10980/8014038.pdf)

I'm not sure if Willie Dempsey and Mary Taggart got married, so I can't locate a marriage record.