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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Selkirkshire => Topic started by: BryanSouter on Wednesday 06 April 11 13:38 BST (UK)
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Dr. John Scott (1814-1856) Born in Selkirk, Dr. Scott became one of the first doctors and surgeons in Berlin, Canada Dr. Scott was the very first reeve of the newly incorporated Village of Berlin in 1854. He was largely responsible for the Village of Berlin becoming the County seat of local government. Originally buried in the old Swedenborgian Church Cemetery on Church Street he was later moved to Mount Hope Cemetery. Does anyone know where about he was born and when he left for Canada?
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Hi Bryan
Some genealogy detail here from google books www.rootschat.com/links/0cmn/
Father Charles, also mentions an uncle Andrew Redford.
Monica :)
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Just in case Selkirk and Roxburghshire got lost in the translation or passage of time ;), there is this IGI entry, not sure if connected but from something I read, birth month for John Scott given as January 1814:
John SCOTT b. 25 JAN 1814 in Lilliesleaf, Roxburgh
Parents: Charles SCOTT and Margaret DOUGLAS
Monica
Added: This is where I saw the January 1814 birth reference http://waterlooregionmuseum.com/region-hall-of-fame/inductees---s-to-v.aspx
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Thanks for that info Monica. :-*
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Bryan Do you realise someone born in Selkirk is a "Souter" which is the old name for a shoemaker! Very apt name in the circumstances.!!
Sorry but Lilliesleaf has always been Roxburghshire and now classed as Lilliesleaf, Melrose Rox, in postal area.
Selkirk Selkirkshire usually includes Ettrick.Yarrow ,Ashkirk and even Galashiels. My reocrds show 3 1814 births for John Scott. 1. christened 20-2-1814 Ettrick to James Scott/Euphan Huntly. 2. born 24-11-1814 yarrow to John Scott/Isobel Barclay and 3. born 25-12-1814 Ashkirk to James Scott/Elizabeth Johnstone.The OPRs dont show any births in actual Selkirk in 1814.
Where did he study.Check Uni records. Any family with middle names of possible grandparents as is the scottish system?Was his wife scottish?
alan
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I couldn't see any Selkirk births or christenings either Allan. The only facts that could help so far were the January 1814 birth, father Charles and the uncle's name. The letters to his uncle Andrew Redford where sent from Canada in the mid 1830s. His uncle and family look to have remained in Scotland. This might help in pinpointing any family.
I haven't been able to find any other family details for him and the US 1850 census only showed him, a surgeon by occupation, with no family.
Monica
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Come back to this again to see if anything else shows. I'm back full circle to possible parents being a Charles Scott and Margaret Douglas ;D These parent names come up on on a marriage in Blenheim, Waterloo Ontario:
Archibald Scott, aged 46 b. Scotland. Parents Charles Scott and Margaret Douglas. Married a Jessie Rogers, aged 33 b. Scotland. Marriage date 5 May 1865.
I saw a reference to Blenheim in that link I posted earlier regarding John Scott (I think it was that link that I posted earlier, I looked at a few!).
Monica
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Andrew Redford was buried in Lilliesleaf Feb 1855 aged 65yrs . He was a tailor with a wife Janet Grieveand a son James.
Being the uncle i would have thought he married a Scott not a Grieve or do you think the "Uncle was Charles brother ?
Do you think Dr John studied Medicine in Edinburgh.
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He was a Rox boy! Have a look at this link with a photo of John Scott's gravestone www.kitchener.ca/en/livinginkitchener/resources/Mounthope.Pdf - (Stop 23)
Monica
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This is from a google cache page (I've shrunk the link) www.rootschat.com/links/0cn6/ - the family of Charles Scott and Margaret Douglas.
Bryan, I will leave you to explore the info (although, I think, due to it being on cache, links on the page don't connect :-\)
Not complete in terms of all the children of Charles and Margaret. From IGI, a few further details:
Marriage/banns for Charles and Margaret show on 4 April 1813 Wilton, Roxburgh.
Children, all births in Lilliesleaf, Rox:
1. John SCOTT 25 Jan. 1814
2. Jessy SCOTT 24 March 1815
3. Isobel SCOTT 8 Sept. 1816
4. Archibald SCOTT 17 June 1818
5. George SCOTT 5 Nov. 1819
6. Charles SCOTT 12 March 1821
7. Andrew SCOTT 2 Jan. 1823
8. Jessey SCOTT 12 July 1824
Monica
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....Still no idea where Uncle Andrew Redford fits in ::) ;D
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Well, this is now going to stop niggling me! Think I found Uncle Andrew....
From 1841 census:
Andrew Redford 60, farmer
Isabella Redford 55
John Redford 30
James Redford 25
Andrew Redford 20
George Redford 20
Charles Redford 15
Jessie Redford 15
Margaret Redford 65
Elizabeth Redford 60
Janet Reid 25, servant
Charlotte Bell 15, servant
Address: Hermiston, Lilliesleaf
Usual issues of the 1841 census. Ages rounded down to the nearest 5 years for everyone over 15 and no relationships given within the household.
From IGI from children's births, Isabella/Isobel, wife of Andrew is showing as SCOTT - thank goodness for that!
Not surprising that Uncle Andrew hummed and hawed about leaving Scotland for Cananda. The 1851 census shows his as a farmer of 450 acres, not insubstantial. Both Andrew and Isabella show in 1851 as born in Lilliesleaf.
Monica