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Title: Name of Butler (Gertrude)
Post by: Tinkerbell on Thursday 14 April 11 05:56 BST (UK)
Still looking for the Baileys........looking foir family of Gertrude Butler b !!!! Married Arthur Bailey who was the brother of previous Ethel Whiteman nee Bailey.

Arthur Bailey b1887 Chaddlesworth Berkshre they married Sept 1915 Kingsclere they had 1 son Vivien born 1920.

Tinkerbell
Title: Re: Name of Butler (Gertrude)
Post by: KGarrad on Thursday 14 April 11 07:38 BST (UK)
Do you have the marriage certificate?
That would give ages, father's names, occupations etc.

Assuming you don't (otherwise you would have an idea when Gertrude was born?), FreeBMD reports that Gertrude M Butler married Arthur J Bailey in Kingsclere in September qtr 1915, Kingsclere,

Brides usually married in their home parish, so these are good possibilities from the 1901 census:

Reference RG13, Piece 1110, Folio 110, Page 7
Salters Heath, Monk Sherbourne, Basingstoke district

Butler, Frank  Head  M  32  Carter on Farm  b Kingsclere
Butler, Ada  Wife  F  31  b Kingsclere
Butler, Ellen E  Daughter  F  9  b Kingsclere
Butler, Gertrude M  Daughter  F  5  b Kingsclere
Butler, Hilda A  Daughter  F  1  b Monk Sherbourne
Hackley, Jane  Lodger  Widow  F  65  b Sherbourne St John

This Gertrude would have been 19 (or so) at the 1915 marriage.


Reference RG13, Piece 1119, Folio 118, Page 8
Ashford Hill, Kingsclere

Butler, Joseph  Head  M  55  b Kingsclere  Cripple
Butler, Mary Ann  Wife  F  50  Monthly Nurse  b Kingsclere
Butler, Gertrude Mary  Daughter  F  14  b Kingsclere
Butler, Harry  Son  M  12  b Kingsclere

This Gertrude would have been 29 at the 1915 marriage.


So, you see, buying certificates is almost essential!
Title: Re: Name of Butler (Gertrude)
Post by: HarryW on Thursday 14 April 11 09:39 BST (UK)
You really do need marriage and death certificates to be sure, but there is a Gertrude Mary BAILEY death shown in Kingsclere Jun qtr 1970 with dob 4 Jan 1887.

Also Arthur C J BAILEY death - Sep qtr 1951 Kingsclere aged 64

Harry
Title: Re: Name of Butler (Gertrude)
Post by: sumner185 on Sunday 01 April 18 14:42 BST (UK)
Hi Tinkerbell
Gertrude Butler was my granny and Arthur Bailey my granddad.  Vivian Bailey is my dad If I can help with any information.
Curly 121
Title: Re: Name of Butler (Gertrude)
Post by: sumner185 on Sunday 01 April 18 19:19 BST (UK)
Hi Tinkerbell
Gertrude Mary Butler born 4th Jan 1887 died 1970 Ashford Hill. She married Arthur James Bailey Chaddlesworth Sept.1915 at Kingsclere Registry Office. They had one son Vivian Claude Bailey born 28th Feb. 1920. (my father)  Gertrudes parents were Joseph Butler and Mary Ann Bradley.
Curly 121