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Title: William PRINGLE b. 1730
Post by: thousandnames on Saturday 30 April 11 23:17 BST (UK)
I have an ancestor named William Pringle who was born in Roberton. He died in 1811 in Makshift (??).

Does anyone have info on parents? Or him for that matter?

Thanks

Title: Re: William PRINGLE b. 1730
Post by: Sharon01 on Saturday 30 April 11 23:28 BST (UK)
AHi,

Any more info on William as there are a few  born in Roberton, Selkirkshire.

Sharon
Title: Re: William PRINGLE b. 1730
Post by: thousandnames on Saturday 30 April 11 23:36 BST (UK)
He married Jean Robson on March 10, 1758. Children:

William (1758-1760)
Adam [m. Hislop] (1759)
Jean [m. Angus] (1760)
William (1761-1804)
Robert [m. Burnet] (1765-1835) - my ancestor
John Francis (1767)
Title: Re: William PRINGLE b. 1730
Post by: Sharon01 on Saturday 30 April 11 23:54 BST (UK)
Only one I can see for that time frame on the family search pilot is

William Pringle
Baptism/Christening Date 16 Sep 1730
Baptism/Christening Place: Roberton, Selkirk , Scotland
Father's Name William Pringle

Sharon
Title: Re: William PRINGLE b. 1730
Post by: thousandnames on Saturday 30 April 11 23:58 BST (UK)
Any way to find the mother?

Thanks
Title: Re: William PRINGLE b. 1730
Post by: Sharon01 on Sunday 01 May 11 00:02 BST (UK)
The record does not have his mothers name. You should try www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk. for both his birth & marriage, it may give mother's name.

sharon
Title: Re: William PRINGLE b. 1730
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 01 May 11 13:49 BST (UK)
It was in the style of some registers not to include mother's name on christenings. Unfortunately you may find this is the case for the Roberton Parish registers from this period.

With the info that Sharon found, with father's name William. Have a look at IGI www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true. You can search with just the batch code for Robertson from this period for further births/christenings with a father William. There are a number entries - none include mother's name.

Batch code is C117772 which covers the period of 1679 - 1822.

Monica
Title: Re: William PRINGLE b. 1730
Post by: Echovalley on Tuesday 11 October 11 08:26 BST (UK)
There were Pringles in Caithness in the mid 1840's, ex border families.  Two sons a William b 1826 at Eskadalemuir and a John b 1837, Baldhill, Etterick both m Oliver daughters and emigrated to NZ in the mid 1800's.
Title: Re: William PRINGLE b. 1730
Post by: KiwiPringle on Sunday 29 July 12 10:35 BST (UK)
You may have this info by now, but....  I have the information you are wanting.  This William Pringle is my great-great-great grandfather.  He married Jean Robson of Howspasley Farm, Roberton, on 10.3.1758.  I don't have all the children you list in my info, but son Robert married Janet Burnett on 2.10.1788, and THEIR son John married one Sarah Johnstone on 12.12.1821.  Their son, another John, married one of the Oliver sisters mentioned in another reply to your request and emigrated to NZ in 1857.   If you want more info and have an email address I can send you a copy of my information from 1730 down to today for our particular branch of the family.
Title: Re: William PRINGLE b. 1730
Post by: KiwiPringle on Sunday 29 July 12 10:41 BST (UK)
I see you're actually hoping to go back from the William of 1730.  I'd like to do that too!  From LDS records, I have a lead to another William Pringle born Hawick in 16.12.1711 that I speculate may be the father of the William you mention. The father of this William is John.  No other info.   Why couldn't they have had the odd names popular today - they may be easier to track!!
Title: Re: William PRINGLE b. 1730
Post by: alan14578 on Sunday 29 July 12 19:41 BST (UK)
kiwipringle  On the Mon. Inscriptions for Borthwick Wa"s Roberton No 8 In memory of  JOHN  PRINGLE< Shepherd who died at Milsington 20 January 1843 aged 47yrs also  SARAH  JOHNSTONE  his wife who died at Broadlee 4th September 1866 aged 74yrs also JAMES  PRINGLE  their son who died at Milsington 2nd September 1841 aged 14yrs.
No 11 There is Alexander GOW and his widow MARGARET PRINGLE (She died at Old Borthaugh 24th November 1872 aged 79yrs.
There is no trace of any other pringles in  Borthwich Ha"s or Roberton cemeteries which are only about 100 yards apart.
Hope this helps
alan
Title: Re: William PRINGLE b. 1730
Post by: KiwiPringle on Sunday 29 July 12 22:13 BST (UK)
Hey, thanks Alan.  I am going to Scotland next week (with my partner who is taking his mother's ashes back to Selkirk where she was born (she was an Urquhart)).  As this is just a step or two from Roberton I plan to visit the cemetery.  I didn't know the two were close together so thanks for that.   John and Agnes were working at Toward Castle in Dunoon before they came out to NZ and I hope to get there too, though it looks like a fair way to drive.  Regards, Liz.
Title: Re: William PRINGLE b. 1730
Post by: alan14578 on Sunday 29 July 12 22:24 BST (UK)
Kiwiprimgle Your mother must be a souter like me.Where are you about.? I knew an Urquhart who died and his widow still lives in Thornfield .The Pringle Park in Selkirk was gifted by a Pringle many  years ago and I lived in Clifton Rd next to the park. If you need anything let me know i live nearby.
alan
Title: Re: William PRINGLE b. 1730
Post by: KiwiPringle on Sunday 29 July 12 23:39 BST (UK)
Hullo Alan14578.  My parter has corrected me - his Urquhart mother is from the Larbert/Falkirk area, and his father (a Begg) is the Selkirk connection.  We're taking her to Selkirk as she was happiest living there before the family came to NZ in the 1950s.   He says yes, all souters!  Regards Liz.
Title: Re: William PRINGLE b. 1730
Post by: alan14578 on Monday 30 July 12 08:48 BST (UK)
Kiwipringle  Is there a connection with Gerald Beggs who lived in Canada but not stays in Selkirk as i went to school with him and see him regularly?
alan
Title: Re: William PRINGLE b. 1730
Post by: alan14578 on Monday 30 July 12 08:51 BST (UK)
Correction Gerald now stays in Selkirk and runs the Selkirk Colonial Soutars at the Common Riding. My fathers best man went to NZ in the 50s and was a LOCKIE and lived in Wanganui.
Title: Re: William PRINGLE b. 1730
Post by: KiwiPringle on Monday 30 July 12 11:31 BST (UK)
Alan, probably not a connection as Francis' surname is Begg not Beggs.   His father was Bill Begg - came to NZ in the 50s, and he had a brother Alf who stayed in Scotland, I think.  They're no longer alive but would have been in their late 80s now.
Title: Re: William PRINGLE b. 1730
Post by: Echovalley on Monday 30 July 12 22:09 BST (UK)
I get notified with each post and I am wondering who are 'soutars'? 
Title: Re: William PRINGLE b. 1730
Post by: KiwiPringle on Monday 30 July 12 23:31 BST (UK)
Hi lindemann, my understanding (from he who knows whom I live with) is that a soutar is a shoemaker,- those with a strong association with Selkirk call themselves soutars.  It's also a surname but that's not what this string is referring to.  But I defer to Alan14578's better knowledge as he is the local!  I believe that shoemaking was an important Selkirk industry at one tim
Title: Re: William PRINGLE b. 1730
Post by: irvinemg on Saturday 11 August 12 03:55 BST (UK)
Hi KiwiPringle. Thought I'd drop a note. Around 1977 I had the pleasure of meeting
one Tui Pringle, a very elderly lady. I can't remember if I saw her in Christchurch or
Temuka.

Tui told me she used to visit my Uncle Adam Irvine at Pukerau when she was a little
girl, probably around the 1910, but as the generations passed on, she lost touch with
the Irvine family of Southland.

My Grt Grt Grandfather worked at Mislington farm at Roberton from around 1819
until 1832 when William Scott the leasee died ( His wife Janet Arras ). The Irvine family
then moved to Loch Broom in the highlands then moved to NZ around 1853, he died
in 1865 and is buried at Geraldine Canterbury.

I know the Pringles are related but just not sure how.
Regards Mike Irvine.