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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Ross & Cromarty => Topic started by: JohannaSandberg on Wednesday 04 May 11 16:18 BST (UK)
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Hej !
I'm looking for Duff family in Scotland.
We know very little..
We've heard from a familymember that the Duff family comes from a place called Portmahomack in Scotland. (Not verified tho)
We have Alexander Duff (no d.o.b, from scotland tho) who marries Elizabeth Jamieson (no d.o.b).
They get a son Walter Robert McKay Duff (17 May 1905, Edinburgh City, Scotland)
Walter Robert later married Catherine Murray Baxter. This is as far as we know !
- I've tried to look in online census, but I cant find them !
Does anyone know anything about this family? What are their parents called ?? Where their family from Portmahomack as we where told? Did they have sisters/brothers ?
I would be very very happy if anyone knew anything about them ! :)
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Scottish birth certificates list date and place of parents' marriage so getting Walter's 1905 birth certificate would give you those details and then you can get the parents' marriage certificate, look for the families in census records, etc.
Since Walter was born over 100 years ago his birth certificate will be available to download from Scotland's People website- www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
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Thank you.
I've already checked there. I only got his whole name, d.o.b and that it was in Edinburgh City, Scotland. District : Leith North
I was expecting to get the mothers full name and father name (maybe age, location and occupation) - like we do here in Sweden.
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Sounds as though you found the entry for the birth record in the index but in order to see full details you have to spend the 5 credits to view the certificate itself.
If you go back to Scotland's People and pull up your previous search then you can select to view the actual certificate.
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Alexander and Elizabeth were married in Rosskeen, Ross & Cromarty in 1889. Certificate should give both sets of parents. Available on Scotlands People.
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Oh ! haha. ;D
I found it now !
Thank you, I found their certificate now... Loads of writing on it. I just cant read it ! haha
It's so hard to read ^^
Is there any website where you can find information for free? Gravestones, census etc ?
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Have a look at Resources for Ross & Cromarty (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,506422.0.html) and Scotland (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,367.0.html).
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They're not there :(
I dont get it. Why wouldnt they be buried in any of they cemetaries ?
Is there anyother way to find out more about Alexander Duff & Elizabeth Jamieson?
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Not everything is available online (in fact only a small portion of gravestones probably are online)- you asked about free resources and I posted links to resources for both Ross & Cromarty and for Scotland.
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You could try phoning the Highland Council (highland.gov.uk) and ask to be put through to Alness or Invergordon Service Point. One of them (can't recollect which) holds the records for Rosskeen cemetery, and they could advise you how they can help you do a search for the Duff family interments.
Sometimes gravestone searches can be unsuccessful, as alot of people back in the day in this area wouldn't have been able to afford a headstone for their loved ones, so I would recommend checking the burial records.
Kind rgds,
A
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Johanna,
Try www.rosscromartyroots.co.uk first item on menu is headstones.
James
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Thank you very much James !
I'll check it out straight away ! :)
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Hi Johanna,
I am in a B&B in Inverness with my husband's family of 5 Duff siblings. We spent yesterday and today in Portmahomack. I didn't look at all in the new cemetery, as much of our family left before the turn of the century.
We are following up on some leads which may show a connection to your Alexander and Elizabeth Jamieson.
I have 9 Alexander Duff's of Portmahomack in my file, but none of them looks promising by dates of birth, death or marriage to be yours.
Is Johanna a family name? I did see a Johanna Duff tombstone in the old cemetery (I didn't note it) and I have a Johanna, daughter of Alexander Duff and Isabell Campbell born 1857
There were 3 or 4 unrelated Duff families. Some (such as ours) were fishermen and couldn't afford monuments. So they may be buried in the cemetery, but we will never fid evidence of it.
Sharon
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Hi Sharon !
It's my boyfriends family that are Duff's (more specific, his mother) According to his mother the Duff family where all coal miners and lived in Portmahamock. (althoug, in the marrige certificate, it doesnt look like it says coal miner on Alexander Duff.... more likely Sailor, Seaman or something with an S. )
I found the marrige certificate of Alexander Duff (25y) & Elizabeth Jamieson(21y) (Janurary 23, 1889), It says that his parents where David Duff & Ann Mac Kay It's very hard to read ! I cannot see what Elizabeths parents where named (I think the father was David Jamieson) I've tried to get help to read the certificate, but without luck.
On the Certificate.. it's a colum for "Usual Residence" but it's not Portmahamock.. I cannot read it.. Jangstong,.. Langton ??
Do you know if there where any coal mining activity nearby Portmahamock?
I googled and actually found a picture of Elizabeth Duff (Jamieson)
http://www.tarbat-discovery.co.uk/Photograph%20Archives/11.%20Tarbat%20People%201-111/Tarbat%20People%20-%20Page%207.html
It's a website on Tarbat, with loads of pictures, a few of Duff people (The only one I recognized was Elizabeth, maybe some are from your family ?)
I didnt know Duff was such common name in the UK (I'm from Sweden myself) !
Even if the people where to poor to afford a monument, would their death still be registered?
I apologize for my long message !
I hope you're having a nice time in Portmahamock ! What's it like up there ? :)
Johanna
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Wondering if.. "usual residence" for Alexander Duff & Elizabeth Jamieson 1889 (marrige certificate) doesnt say "Invergordon" if its an odd I, and that place exist.
Would that place be near Portmahamock? Maybe Duff family came from Portmahamock on Alexanders fathers side, David Duff?
Johanna
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Sorry, I just saw that Alexander Duff worked as a "merchant navy" not coal miner (That was the Brown family ^^) hhahaha
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It's a lovely sunny morning in Inverness.
In Portmahomack, there certainly were lots of fishermen. That is the occupation of most of my family. And a lot of people went into the navy and other sea related occupations.
I know David Duff & Ann MacKay
David's parents were David Duff & Ann Duff
That David's parents were Harry Duff and Anne Bruce
Ann Duff's parents were Walter Duff and Ann McKay
Ann McKay's (wife of David Duff) parents were Walter Skinner and Janet Ross who were also the parents of our ancestor Janet Skinner who married Walter Duff
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Wow ! Thank you ! ;D
Where they all born in Portmahamock ? You dont happen to have any dates for anyone ?
I must say, I am abit confused :P Seems like they are all called Ann (Duff & MacKay) and David ! haha. How can you tell them apart ?
To me it looks like it's all the same person o inbreed ! haha :P
But it's weird that they had the same name as their father and eventually married a girl with the same name as the mother.
How come Ann McKay's (wife of David Duff) father where called Skinner, but her last name is MacKay. Her sister Janet was called Skinner to. Weird. :)
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Sorry, I left out a Generation.
Jane Skinner, daughter of Walter, born 29 Nov 1813 in Tarbat By Fearn, Ross & Cromarty (which includes Portmahomack) married 13 Dec 1833 in Tain, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland, Alexander MacKay born abt 1800.
Their daughter Ann born 23 Apr 1843 in Tain, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland married in Tain, 12 Feb 1856, David Duff born 02 Sep 1835 in Tarbat By Fearn.
I don't have exact dates for Walter Skinner and Janet Ross.
I will give you more, if you want, just ask.
Everyone wants to go touring now.
Sharon
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Aaah okej. ! So Jane Skinner and Janet Skinner was sisters ?
I would love to know more about the Duff family if you know anything else. It's hard to find out anything without paying loads ! =/
Do you know anything about David Duff & Ann MacKay's son (b 18 mar 1862)Alexander Duff (married to Elizabeth Jamieson b. 1868?) It's from Alexander my boyfriend comes from. But we know nothing about Elizabeth Jamieson or well...anything but Alexanders birth and their marrige date. I dont know how many kids they got or anything.
I hope you are having fun, and that the weather is nice over there =)
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Johanna
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Hi Sharon
I've just registered on rootschat and came across your post regarding the Duff's. I am trying to trace my tree in South Africa but I've hit a brick wall. Would you by any chance know of a Robert Alexander Duff (I'm told he came from Glasgow, Scotland) that suddenly disappeared between 1870 - 1888. My great grandfather 'appeared' in South Africa and the only reference I can find is a marriage transcription dated 1888 (full age)with no other info about him. The reason when, why and how he came to South Africa I just can't find out from anyone. I don't have his date of birth or parents names or any info at all which makes it very difficult to trace. I don't even know when or where he died as none of my family that I am in contact with know anything about him. I was hoping that someone might have a missing person that by some slim chance might be him. I would be very grateful if you could have a quick check and let me know. Regards Sharon P.S. It's not a typo ... I'm also a Sharon.
Please see separate post here:
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,555056.msg4078748.html
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Hi Joanna
I have just found out that my Grandmother who is 89 yrs old is the Grandaugter of Alexander and Elizabeth Duff her maiden name is Alexandrena Duff Carnie.
Her mother and father lived in Newhaven in Edinburgh Scotland she had 3 sisters and 2 brothers.
Alexander and Elizabeth had nine children 5 girls and 4 boys. Jim Duff,Daniel Duff,Walter Duff are the names she could remember. Walter was known to my Gran as Uncle Berty he was in the Navy and his Grandson Paul Duff lives near me in Broxburn West Lothian Scotland.
Hope this helps and you have now got me interested in looking deeper into my family tree.
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Walter and Ann duff are my great great great grandparents. I have the family tree down to me if you would like it?
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Hey just came across this be it a couple of years later my family are the duffs originally from portmahomack. My grandad was brought up in leith and this is his parents names. What is connection with yourself?