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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Somerset => Topic started by: carlwood007 on Thursday 05 May 11 21:52 BST (UK)
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I am trying to trace relatives of my grandma who was illegally adopted in 1926
She was born in Yeovil (18 Talbot Street) to Horace William Lines and Florence Edna Lines (nee Lygo)
That is all the information that I have been able to find thus far.
All other lines run cold, I have tried B,D&M and Cencus checks, something just dosn't add up.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Carl
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She could not be illegally adopted, i.e. against the law. Prior to 1927 there was no formal adoption process, and the term "adopted" generally included fostering and guardianship. In many instances a child was simply "adopted" into the extended family or taken in by neighbours/family friends and brought up as a member of their own family. Occasionally it was arranged through a solicitor, doctor or charitable organisation but adoption was viewed as an essentially private arrangement between the parties concerned. and nothing to do with the law.
Stan
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Not sure what you mean by "All other lines run cold, I have tried B,D&M and Cencus checks, something just dosn't add up."
Are you sure Horace and Florence were married to each other?
According to FreeBMD a Florence E. Lygo married Oct./Dec.1926 Nottingham district (volume 7b page 808) James H. Wilde
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Birth cert shows them as married
It is the only source of info that we have
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Hello Carl
Do we assume that your grandmother was born in 1926 and the registration district was Yeovil?
What was the occupation of the father Horace William Lines?
Was Florence employed?
Does your grandmother have any other christian names?
Horace William Lines appears to have been born in the Sep qtr of 1901 Northampton R.D....living with his family in 1911 in Leicester, which is where you will find your gr grandmother Florence Lygo and your great great grandparents James Henry Lygo and Annie Lygo.....
and it appears Horace William Lines married Carrie Meldrum Coote (born 1900 Henley R.D) in 1946 Abingdon R.D
1901 census (they lived number 110 Brandon Street in 1911)
106 Brandon Street, Leicester, Leicestershire
James Lygo....Head....44....Boot Getter Off....... Leicester
Annie......"......Wife.....43....................................Leicester
Arthur.....".......Son.....21...Boot Forepart Parer..Leicester
Edward...".......Son.....19...Boot Clicker...............Leicester
James H..".......Son.....15....Boot Fitting Cutter...Leicester
Mary E....".......Daur....9......................................Leicester
Alfred......"......Son......6.......................................Leicester
Emma E..".......Daur.....4.....................................Leicester
Florence.".......Daur......1.....................................Leicester
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1899
Florence Lygo was born in the Sep qtr of 1899 Leicester R.D
Having just had a look
It is highly likely that your grandmother has siblings in Marjorie R born 1921 and Leslie W born 1922...both born in Leicester
Bryant
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1901 census
13 Inkerman Terrace, Northampton St Sepulchre, Northamptonshire
George Lines....Head...43.....Bricklayer...........Rothersthorpe, Northamptonshire
Mary.........."......Wife....43...............................Northampton
Harry.........".......Son....19..Railway Goods Porter...Blisworth, Northamptonshire
+ 6 boarders
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Unfortunately i'm not allowed to show you the 1911 but Harry would be your great great grandfather
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So it appears that Horace & Florence never married but they might have lived together for years prior to the birth of your grandmother and to know that you will have to go down the route of the electoral registers for the period 1926 and go back year on year if they are together? doubtful but you never know...
Bryant
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Carl
Having just had a look and they might well be living?
It is highly likely that your grandmother has siblings in Marjorie R born 1921 and Leslie W born 1922...both born in Leicester
Marjorie appears to marry in 1940 and quite possibly has a son born 1944, both events happened in Leicestershire
Bryant
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Hi Bryant
All looks very interesting, and thank you for spending time looking into this.
Grandmother born 1926 18 Talbot Street Yeovil
Her birth certificate shows Horace and Florence as married, I can't find this marriage
Horace is a travelling Salesman
I presume this would be his second marriage in 1946?
Do we know who are the birth parents of Majorie and Leslie
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Her birth certificate shows Horace and Florence as married, I can't find this marriage
Horace is a travelling Salesman
How does it show they are married? Is Florence listed as Florence Lines formerly Lygo?
Please remember that we aren't allowed to post detail of living, or possibly living, people (you can go back and edit your posts if you need to remove those details)
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The marriage in Nottingham appears to be a Florence that was born in Nottingham, I think her name was Florence Emily Lygo if I remember correctly...as seen below
According to FreeBMD a Florence E. Lygo married Oct./Dec.1926 Nottingham district (volume 7b page 808) James H. Wilde
If your Florence Lygo married it might be the one that occurred in 1935 Hendon R.D to Alfred W Kettle and it appears possible that they had 3 children in 1937/1939/1940.....I wouldn't have thought that a Kettle/Lygo combination would be a common one.
The first one born Colin Alfred Kettle born 7th Jan 1937 Barnet R.D appears to have died in July (registered) 1985 Redbridge R.D, Essex
The second one marries in 1959 and has 3 boys born 63/64 and 79 dare one say that one wasn't planned then again perhaps he was?
The third one marries in 1965 and has 3 children in 1965/1966 and 1972
so you have plenty to work with Carl...happy hunting but remember you need to confirm the 1935 marriage of Florence to Alfred Kettle before you do anything because if that isn't right then none of the "modern" info is
Bryant
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Many thanks
Already working on the earlier links
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Florence Lygo (Leic 1899)
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How does it show they are married? Is Florence listed as Florence Lines formerly Lygo?
Exactly
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hi there :) my dad was colin alfred kettle, his mum was florence lygo, the one you are mentioning in the above post, if theres any info i can give you please ask :)
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the 3children is correct, colion, brenda & michael. walter died when colin was 7 we were told, that would make it 1944 in a car crash, again thats what we were told.
having done an extensive family tree, it appears that my nan florence lied about things.
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flo had a sister nora, she was 'disabled' or thats what we were told as kids, flo died about 16 years ago, but brenda & michael are still alive :), my number is xxx im giving you this as this is an older post and ive no other way of contacting you x
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I know this an old post but thought I’d add.
James Henry Lygo is my 3rd grt uncle. I descend from his brother Alfred Lygo who was born 1854 Marston upon dove/Hilton, Derbyshire. Parents Edward Lygo and Lucy Foard. The Lygo family originally come from the villages of Marston upon dove and Sutton on the Hill, Derbyshire. Edward went to Leicester after his first wife died and remarried to Lucy.
My grt nan was Winifred Lygo born Leicester 1919.