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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Breconshire => Topic started by: Richards74 on Monday 09 May 11 19:17 BST (UK)
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Hello,
I'm new to the website and wanted to say hello to everyone in the Breconshire forums. Has anyone researched Abergwesin yet?
Regards
Richards74
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Welcome Paul to Rootchat :D
is ther a reason you ask your question?
cheers cardiff ???
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Thanks for the welcome.
I was looking to find family relations prior to the 1841 census etc in the Abergwesin area, I have all details 1841 onwards, but anything before is missing for now.
Regards
Richards74
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Hi
You should still put out the family info you require someone may not have done info on your area but may ahve details of where to find or have actual details from Parish or other records of that area. always worth a try
Good Luck
cheers cardiff :)
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I have RICHARDS, THOMAS and MORGAN family hailing from Abergwesyn from c1780. What are you specifically seeking?
George
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Hello Garlands,
We spoke before, you just replied to my Abergwesyn post.
I'll post a PM.
Cheers :)
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Hi
I have been reserching families in Abergwesyn for the past 8 years and have some graveyard inscriptions and some parish records from that area. What families are you researching? Mine are Herbert, Davies, Prothero and Bevan
Regards
Karen
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Hi,
My connections are RICHARDS, THOMAS and MORGAN
Thanks
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Hi
I had seen your post with family names but I meant for Richards74 as they had no names on their posts. I will check tonight if I have information on your family names and get back to you
Regards
Karen
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Hi Garlands,
I have monumental inscriptions for 17 Thomas' in The Moriah Congregational Chapel ranging from 1728-1910 but no Richards nor Morgans.
In Pantycelyn Chapel I have 8 Morgan/s from 1796-1855, no Richards and 13 Thomas' from 1812 - 1885.
If you would like the details, I could scan them to an email address for you tomorrow, if you wish me to do so please send me a personal message
Regards
Karen
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Karen,
Many thanks for the MI's, which are both interesting and useful
George
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Hi Richards74 and everyone else here.
My Abergwesyn surnames are Jones (Llanddewi Aber) and Prothero (Llanfihangel Aber)
Richard74, you need to state your surname interests and any more details you can give if you want some practical help from us.
All the best to all,
Cochiaid
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Hi Cochiaid
Do you have these MI's from Pantycelyn graveyard, Abergwesyn?
Roderick Prothero of Tymawr died 6th May 1829 aged 71
also Margaret, his wife, died 14 December 1853 aged 83
John Prothero of Allt-Felen died 16 September 1828 aged 68
also Magdalen, his wife, 23 May 1825 aged 63
also Jacob, son, died 3 April 1829 aged 36
also Rees, son, died 27 September 1808 aged 21
Any dates or particular Prothero's you are looking for, I have others buried here but they came from Llangammarch Bwlchmawr and Pistillgwyn
Regards,
Karen
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Thanks Karen,
Yes I have all these. I only stated them to get Richards74 to realise the need to be more definite in an enquiry. Thanks all the same though. Roderick and Margaret P would be my G G Grandparents.
All the best,
Cochiaid
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Hi Cochiaid
Do you have a Margaret Prothero born about 1783 in your family records? Don't know the name of the farm she was born at but she worked and died at Llanycharfa.
Thanks
Karen
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I haven't been able to go back that far as yet,
Cochiaid
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Hello Cochiaid, Karen,
Sorry, I have not been on Rootschat for a while.
In reply to your question. I'm looking for Richards family in Abergwesyn. That's all I know. Anyone there before the 1841 census. As well as Richards, the family name could have been derived from Richard, Prichard, Ritchard etc. Thanks for checking the graveyards, I'm a little surprised that there are no Richards family mentioned. Although it's quite probable that farming families were buried in or around the farms within which they lived pre 1840's?
Regards
Paul
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Can't help sorry,
Cochiaid
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Hi,
This is Graham,my e-mail address is....
I have connections with Abergwesin/Pantycelin and surrounding areas,.
Could Cochiaid and Karenbest500 PLEASE contact me as soon as possible, by e-mail if possible.I would be extremely grateful for your help.
Many thanks,
Graham.
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Hi. I've just started researching a Richards family from Abergwesyn, later in Llanygynider. However, it's the wife, Gwenllian, b 1782, who comes from Abergwesyn. Her husband, Edward, is from Cardiganshire. They had 2 children, Gwenllian b c1817 and Edward b c 1824. So far I haven't found any other children. Gwenllian the daughter had 3 children, no father in evidence, the eldest William, born in Abergwesyn c 1839. Elizabeth was born c1844 and Margaret c1849. The girls were born in Llangynider, where the family all seem to have moved to.
I've spent this evening on a fruitless search for them on the 1841 census - no trace so far.
Please do get in touch if this is or might be the same family, as I'd love to discuss it. I'm new to Welsh genealogy and on a steep learning curve!
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I have access to a copy of the Register for Pantycelin Methodist Chapel in Abergwesin which covers most of the 19th century, and I'm willing to do 'look-ups' fi you think your ancestors might be hidden-away there.
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I have access to a copy of the Register for Pantycelin Methodist Chapel in Abergwesin which covers most of the 19th century, and I'm willing to do 'look-ups' fi you think your ancestors might be hidden-away there.
Thankyou. If you were able to check for the Richards family detailed in the post above yours, that would be a huge help, as I've got no further with them.
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I'll have a look as soon as I can
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Thankyou very much - no hurry. I'd rather put that family to one side after all my struggles with them! But it would be interesting to try...
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Graham,
Whoever made the transcription of the Registers also added some notes, and these are included. All surnames are PROTHEROE unless stated otherwise.
1800 20 May Anne d of Roderick & Margaret of Tymawr Llanfiangle (Anne buried 4 May 1877)
1808 28 Jun David ditto
1810 27 Nov Roderick ditto
1812 14 May Mary ditto
1813 25 Dec William ditto
1817 27 Feb Morgan ditto
1840 28 Sep Elizabeth of Alltwen (burial or death)
1840 19 Dec Margaret d of William & Mary of Tymawr (Margaret m Rees JONES and died Jun 1876)
1841 14 Apr Mag & Anne of Alltwen (burial or death)
1843 28 Jan Evan s of William & Mary of Tymawr ( he m Jane DAVIES of Tynylwn)
1845 21 Feb Elizabeth ditto (she m Roger EVANS Jan 1872)
1847 25 Mar Mary ditto (she m Isaac DAVIES)
1851 4 Nov Sybil ditto (she m the 2nd David PRITCHARD Dec 1886)
1854 31 Jan Catherine ditto ( she m James PRITCHARD)
1854 27 Dec Alma d of Roderick & Sarah (she m Alfred MORGAN oct 1880)
I hope that some of the above is useful.
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Annesthreads,
Nothing on your specific requirements, but are you aware that the RICHARDS surname was often recorded as 'ap RICHARD' and was then mutated to PRICHARD or PRITCHARD? It's happened a few times in my line, so I am attaching the following:-
1828 17 Aug Gwen PRITCHARD of Bwlchdigor Isaf (death or burial)
1825 16 Jun Margaret d of David & Gwen PRITCHARD of Tynllan, Llanddewi
1826 3 Aug William s of ditto
1827 18 Sep Eleanor d of ditto
1830 27 Jun David s of ditto of Caegwm, Llanfihangel
1832 7 Oct John s of ditto
1834 3 Mar Thomas s of ditto
Incidentally, you might like to look at the couple of references to PRITCHARD in my reply to Graham earlier.
I hope that some of this is of use.
George
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Richards74
Sorry, no trace of David RICHARDS or his son, Rees
George
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Thankyou very much, George. No, being new to Welsh genealogy, I hadn't appreciated that the surname might appear differently. Very useful to know - thankyou. I'll take a look at the info you've set out. All much appreciated!
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Thanks for checking George.
Richards74
Sorry, no trace of David RICHARDS or his son, Rees
George
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Graham,
Whoever made the transcription of the Registers also added some notes, and these are included. All surnames are PROTHEROE unless stated otherwise.
1800 20 May Anne d of Roderick & Margaret of Tymawr Llanfiangle (Anne buried 4 May 1877)
1808 28 Jun David ditto
1810 27 Nov Roderick ditto
1812 14 May Mary ditto
1813 25 Dec William ditto
1817 27 Feb Morgan ditto
1840 28 Sep Elizabeth of Alltwen (burial or death)
1840 19 Dec Margaret d of William & Mary of Tymawr (Margaret m Rees JONES and died Jun 1876)
1841 14 Apr Mag & Anne of Alltwen (burial or death)
1843 28 Jan Evan s of William & Mary of Tymawr ( he m Jane DAVIES of Tynylwn)
1845 21 Feb Elizabeth ditto (she m Roger EVANS Jan 1872)
1847 25 Mar Mary ditto (she m Isaac DAVIES)
1851 4 Nov Sybil ditto (she m the 2nd David PRITCHARD Dec 1886)
1854 31 Jan Catherine ditto ( she m James PRITCHARD)
1854 27 Dec Alma d of Roderick & Sarah (she m Alfred MORGAN oct 1880)
I hope that some of the above is useful.
I have just joined RootsChat so forgive me if I’m not replying in the usual format- finding my way round the system! Regarding Roderick and Margaret (aka Mary), I have also have names of their other children - Sybil 1794-1826, Catherine 1796-1869, Elizabeth 1798-1872, John 1806-1857.
My connection is through Alma, she is my great grandfather’s sister. So Rees Protheroe 1731-1840 of Tymawr farm (Roderick’s father) was my 5x gf.
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Hi there,
I have recently arrived in Abergwesin with my family research. The family I am researching is the family of William Evans and Catherine Jones. My link is through their son John Evans who was born in the area between 1837 and 1841. I have found birth records for his brother Thomas (15 April 1841), and sister Mary (17 April 1844) where the birth place is written as Garrgyfrân or Garregyfrân, Llandewi-Abergwesin. I can find Abergwesin, but the first place (probably a farm) I cannot find.
I would love to know where this place is - find it on a map - see a photo. Can anyone help?
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Carreg y fran https://enwaulleoeddhanesyddol.cbhc.gov.uk/enwaulleoedd/cofnod/189ba40e-8acf-48b6-b273-fb44816c1546