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Hi
A few of my GG Parents are buried in lane cove.
I know where Lane Cove is,but where abouts is the cemetery.
It just states they are buried in lane cove cemetery
Thanks
Vicki
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Hi Vicki
I grew up in Chatswood, the next suburb - actually part of Lane Cove is in Chatswood West.
I don't remember a cemetery.
I wonder do they mean Gore Hill? It's on what used to be called Lane Cove Road.
Or it might be what used to be Northern Suburbs Cemetery and is now called Macquarie Park.
Do you have a burial date? Where did you get this info?
Just rang my sister in law who still lives in Sydney and also grew up in Chatswood.
She thinks it's more likely to be Northern Suburbs. I can remember we had to go 'cross country' via Fullers Bridge which crosses the Lane Cover River, the main road Chatswood to North Ryde.
Dawn M.
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To my knowledge there is no cem in Lane Cove however it does depend if the information was verbal because they could be referring to Delhi Road which is just above Lane Cove National Park.
On Delhi Road you have the choice of two.
If cremated my 1st choice would be Northern Suburbs Memorial Gardens and Crem ... 199 Delhi Road Nth Ryde 9888 6394.
If no luck then try Macquarie Park Cem and Crem. Cnr Delhi & Plassey Roads. (Formally known as Northern Suburbs Cemetery) 9805 0499
Gore Hill would be the next best bet
Good Luck, Rob
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Hi
On the death record it states
Place of Burial ; lane Cove
year is 1870
Thanks for your replies
Vicki
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As most of the cemeteries in that area were not opened until later, perhaps she was buried in a churchyard? Or an "unofficial" burial place...on private property, for example.
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Gore Hill Cemetery was established in 1868 so it could be there, though Wiki says the first burial was in 1877 - why would it be there for 9 years without being used?
It's on Pacifric Highway which used to be called Lane Cove Road.
Vicki, does it give the funeral director (presuming by death record you mean death certificate)?
You could even look at St. Thomas's at North Sydney. This area was called St. Leonards even though now nowhere near St. Leonards. Which is sort of near Lane Cove. St. Thomas's is C/E.
Does it give a religion for your folks?
There's a Methodist Church on Mowbray Road at Chatswood South (Artarmon) though I hardly think it would be referred to as Lane Cove, but you never know. Don't know the exact year of construction but my ggf's brother built it. Just looked at it on Wiki and it says built 1871 so I guess that's not it either. Unless they opened the cemetery before the church. ??? ???
Dawn M
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Hi
Don't know if this is helpful my relations emigrated to Australia and lived at Lane Cove Ryde NSW from early 1900's until 1950 From the death record they are buried in the Church of England Field of Mars cemetery. I am told it is part of the Rookwood cemetery, one of the largest in the Southern Hemisphere and that some of the Rookwood MI's are indexed and some are online. I certainly found the Rookwood cemetery online and could view it on google maps.
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Hi
Don't know if this is helpful my relations emigrated to Australia and lived at Lane Cove Ryde NSW from early 1900's until 1950 From the death record they are buried in the Church of England Field of Mars cemetery. I am told it is part of the Rookwood cemetery, one of the largest in the Southern Hemisphere and that some of the Rookwood MI's are indexed and some are online. I certainly found the Rookwood cemetery online and could view it on google maps.
Field of Mars Cemetery could also be a possibility as although its in Ryde, its just across the Lane Cove River. But its nowhere near Rookwood - probably 15kms(?) away.
Les
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On the death record it states
Place of Burial ; lane Cove
year is 1870
Just noted the above burial date. Rules out both Northern Suburbs Cemetery and Crematorium. Possibly Field of Mars too?
I tend to go along with St.Thomas's at St Leonards.
Les
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Vicki, have you checked the newspapers of the day on the Trove Website?
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home
There may be a Funeral Notice which could give a more exact location?
Les
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Vicki if you could give us some names we might be able to find them??
I thought of TROVE but with no names it would be impossible.
Dawn M
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I think the Baptists had a cemetery called "Ryde Baptist Cemetery" at Lane Cove Road, Ryde. It operated from 1850 to sometime in 1940s. Neil
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http://www.rookwoodindependent.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=46&Itemid=27
Rookwood Independent Cemetery looks after Baptist Greek and Methodist sections of the Field of Mars Cemetery. You can do name searches on this site shown above.
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But I think Field of Mars didn't exist in 1870
Dawn M
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On the death record it states
Place of Burial ; lane Cove
year is 1870
Nice little puzzle you have here.... Perhaps the recording office was the thing that was actually at Lane Cove. I get a similar quirk when looking at the death records of Men from the Lidcombe Old Mens Home that were buried right across the road in Rookwood. NSW BDM shows Granville which is two suburbs away.
If it wasn't one of the obvious ones then this site http://www.interment.net/data/aus/nsw/sydneymetropolitan/methodist/index.htm infers that there are only two places left to look when it says "This cemetery is one of only two remaining 19th century churchyard cemeteries on Sydney’s North Shore. The other is in Saint Johns Ave, Gordon".
There is a list based on the early burial register of this cemetery .... Unfortunately there are no 1870 burials as it opened in 1871.
Please note that that quote said remaining .... Any others are gone!
Perhaps you should contact the person who wrote the article as obviously he has a great deal if information on the area. He should know of the other places which would probably be parks now.
Good Luck
Rob
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Hi there Vicki,
Willoughby Council's website includes this index to Gore Hill Cemetery ... perhaps it may help you, as mentioned by others who have posted, the main road past this cemetery was previously known as Lane Cove Road.(Chatswood to North Sydney).... and is not the same road as now referred to as Lane Cove Road (Ryde to Pymble).
http://www.willoughby.nsw.gov.au//Library/Collections---Services/Local-Studies/GHC-Records/
On the other hand, there's quite a number of RChatters who can help you further if you were to provide the surname and perhaps the given name of the person who was buried at Lane Cove in 1870.
Cheers, JM
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There is a very old cemetery at 205 West Street North Sydney
It is called St Thomas' Rest Park
The original land was given by Alexander Berry and was the first burial ground established North of Sydney Harbour.
It is estimated that there would have been 909 headstones on the plots.
There is a web site for graves and you may find your person there
(I have found some transcriptions for my ancestors on this site)
This was the original burial place for the earliest graves from St Thomas' Church of England (Now Anglican)
You could look at the St Thomas' web page
Lane Cove comes into this area
The Gore Hill cemetery is an interesting place to visit also .
Turramurra
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Following from Turramurra's post
http://photosau.com/Stantonheadstones/scripts/home.asp this link, there's a database of photo records of headstones.
Cheers, JM
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Thanks for that link JM
Some of my family there. Have to save up and buy them.
Dawn M
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Hi Rob
l have only jumped on the RootsChat today have read all your research on the Turners that you have done over the last three years and your post from September 2008. What caught my eye was the mention of Turners and Brewood, Staffordshire. You seem to have a thorough knowledge of the Turners in this area of England along with Crystal and Joy.
l see in your past correspondence you are aware of George Turner and Mary Turner (nee Talbot) who married in Brewood in 1841. They left England from Southampton for Australia in 1856 with their six children and Mary gave birth to the seventh during the voyage. They settled in Ararat, Victoria so there is a line of Turners in Victoria that descend from them, including myself. We have all details of generations from the time they arrived in Australia until present day, but very little detail before their births in England.
I have their marriage certificate and both their fathers are listed as Thomas, and that is as far back l as l can go at this stage. Can your records of the Turners from Staffordshire see how they may link in?
Cheers
Noel Turner
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Sorry i have not replied but i have had some had some family issues
Iam looking for and Joseph or John Johnson and Mary ann Johnson ( Dyson)
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Could you give us information please from the death certificate.
For example date of death, place of death etc
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Is this your Mary Ann Dyson and John Johnson?
Mary Ann Dyson convict record http://www.convictrecords.com.au/convicts/dyson/mary-ann/94331
Death: 4177/1876 Mary A. JOHNSON; Father-Joseph; Died Lane Cove; St Leonards
Death: 2273/1870 John JOHNSON; Age 70 Years; Died St Leonards; St Leonards
Marriage: V18341160 18/1834 John JOHNSON and Mary A. DYSON; CA *CA=Church of England; St Phillip's Sydney
Online tree: http://www.mytrees.com/ancestry/Australia/Died-1876/Dy/Dyson-family/Mary-Dyson-ma005004-88.html
cheers :)
cupoflife
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I think one of your problems in finding where your relatives may be interred is many of the main cemeteries that we know today didn't exist. Nearly every church in that area has a small cemetery attached. Lane Cove was an all consuming name for much of that part of the North Shore and covered from North Ryde the west Bank of Lane Cove up to The East Bank of Lane Cove and Chatswood, Artarmon and Willoughby. There was actually no such place as Chatswood it came about around 1877 when an area formerly known variously as Lemon Grove/Orange Grove became the new Hub of Chatswood at the Top of Delhi Road and Lane Cove Road from around 1877.
As I was living at Chatswood from 2004 through to 2008 and my nephew was commisioned as the Architect for the what is now the "Concourse" I helped out with some of the historical research and lots of walking trips around the "Old Areas" I got to see many of these Old Churches and their respective Graveyards.
Neil
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hi cupof life
that is the same family i am looking for.
Death record is
date of death ; 24 sep 1870 lane cove
date of burial ;26 sep 1870 lane cove??
mary ann Johnson death 5 nov 1876
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would love to know more neil todd
;D
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Well I can try ;D I have Delhi Road in my last reply, wrongly. From Delhi it alters name and it becomes Mowbray and the road to Fullers Farm obviously is now Fullers road.
So apart from knowing where I am going, I do mix up road names ::)
Neil :P
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In 1870, Gordon was called "Lane Cove".
That's why "Lane Cove Road", from Ryde, goes to Gordon, and nowhere near what is called Lane Cove today.
They might have been buried in the churchyard at the Anglican church at Gordon, which has quite a substantial cemetery by Australian suburban standards.
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Hi there,
Tutors2009 has not been online at RChat since 8 March, 2014, but, fingers crossed, has kept their notifications turned on.
Neil mentioned earlier on this thread, "Lane Cove" as a district also included the sub- districts we now know as Chatswood, Willoughby, Artarmon.
May I also mention that "Lane Cove Road" is also the former name of the now Pacific Highway, running from north-south, Milson's Point to Hornsby, and it was known as the Lane Cove Road for much of the 19th Century and into the 20th Century. It is labelled as Lane Cove Road on various maps in my possession, and the other Lane Cove Road running from Top Ryde to Gordon is also labelled "Lane Cove Road"....
Sands Directories are available online, and may well be helpful.
http://www.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/learn/search-our-collections/sands-directory.
However, if the location of Lane Cove Cemetery is still in doubt, then perhaps TROVE can be helpful, "Lane Cove Cemetery" in 1870s and 1880s at least, errr .... was in Lane Cove :) (likely Myrtle St North Sydney to Lane Cove Cemetery) whereas I would expect Field Of Mars for Ryde http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13443948 SMH 24 Dec1879 And of course I can be wrong. But the NSW BDM death cert should have the funeral director's details and that may well help advance the quest.
Cheers, JM
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hi, i live in lane cove and there actually is a cemetery right across the road of great northern hotel i hope this will help thanks :D
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Hi sjreshab,
Welcome to rootschat :) And thank you for your info.
From your directions and a map the cemetery is known as the Chatswood Pioneer Reserve. The data is online here http://www.australiancemeteries.com.au/nsw/willoughby/chatswoodsthmeth.htm
It is part of the national trust https://www.nationaltrust.org.au/initiatives/former-chatswood-south-uniting-church/ It says the cemetery was consecrated in 1871.
Ros
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I know this post is very old. I just found that May Ann Johnson is interred in St John's Anglican Cemetery in Gordon, probably in an unmarked grave site.
There is a list of people interred in this cemetery and she is included in the list at: http://gutenberg.net.au/stjohns/people/Person1837.html (http://gutenberg.net.au/stjohns/people/Person1837.html)
There is also a record for her in findagrave at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/180110939/may-ann-johnson (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/180110939/may-ann-johnson)