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Title: 1861 and 1871 - Williams
Post by: davierj on Sunday 15 May 11 11:47 BST (UK)
Request lookup in 1861 and 1871 for the family of Eliza Williams, born about 1819 in Solva.   She had at least 3 children all born in Fishguard, Dinah born about 1855, William born about 1858 and Mary born about 1865.   By 1881 Eliza was widowed and living in Wallis Street, Fishguard.

I am particularly interested in discovering Eliza's husband and any other children.   Thank you, Dave
Title: Re: 1861 and 1871 - Williams
Post by: wilcoxon on Sunday 15 May 11 11:55 BST (UK)
1871 Class: RG10; Piece: 5535; Folio: 25; Page: 14
Wallis Street. Fishguard
Elizabeth Williams  wid 49 dressmaker b Solva
All children b Fishguard
Dinah Williams 17
William Williams 12
James Williams 10
Mary Williams 7

1861 RG9; Piece: 4170; Folio: 25; Page: 12;
Wallis Street. Fishguard.
Jane Evans wid  76 head retired carrier b Pemborke St Davids.
William Williams 36 son in law wheelright b  Jordaston ???
Eliza Williams 40 dau wheelrights wife b Fishguard
All the rest are grandchildren b Fishguard
Jane Williams 11 
John Williams 10
David Williams 8 Should be Dinah
William Williams 3
James Williams 14days
 
1851
Wallis Street
Jane Evans  wid 64 carrier b St Davids
William Williams  Visitor 25 carpenter b Jordaston Parish
Eliza Williams  dau 31
Grandchildren
Jane Williams  1
John Williams 1 Month 
Ann Lewis 12 servant

I`m guessing this may be Jane in 1841.
No relationships are given but the adress looks good.
Wallis Street Fishguard.
Jane Evan (s) 55 charwoman Y ( born in county)
Eliza  "" 20 Y

William Williams in 1841  ::) ::) ::) there are just too many.
You need the marriage cert to find his fathers name.
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
Title: Re: 1861 and 1871 - Williams - Completed
Post by: davierj on Sunday 15 May 11 12:32 BST (UK)
Thank you for all the info.   It looks as if Eliza was widowed before 1871.   It's a strange entry for 1851 where William Williams is described as a visitor.   If it's the same guy he'd been visiting for some time...............

Must be Jordanston which is close to Fishguard.   Thanks again Dave
Title: Re: 1861 and 1871 - Williams
Post by: wilcoxon on Sunday 15 May 11 12:46 BST (UK)
Free BMD , this may be him, age and place are ggod.
Deaths Jun 1870   
Williams  William  45  Haverfordwest  11a 565
Title: Re: 1861 and 1871 - Williams
Post by: Orielbenfro on Sunday 15 May 11 14:23 BST (UK)
I believe you will find that William Williams Carpenter is living with his parents at the Glebe Jordanston in 1841 as follows
John William 38 Carpenter Y
Diana William 40 - Y
William William 15 Carpenter Y
John  William 12 - Y
Gilbert William 10 - Y
Mary William 06 - Y
David William 04 - Y
Elizabeth William 02 - Y
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Orielbenfro
Oriel a welsh window on a surname
Title: Re: 1861 and 1871 - Williams
Post by: davierj on Sunday 15 May 11 14:30 BST (UK)
Thank you both very much, Dave
Title: Re: 1861 and 1871 - Williams
Post by: Orielbenfro on Sunday 15 May 11 14:32 BST (UK)
For the future you may wish to consider the mrge of John Williams to Dinah Evan at St Dogwells on the 23 June 1825.
It could be usefull if someone happened to find John & Dinah in the 1851.
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Orielbenfro
ORIEL a welsh window on a surname
Title: Re: 1861 and 1871 - Williams
Post by: davierj on Sunday 15 May 11 15:50 BST (UK)
Thank you for the marriage, Orielbenfro.   Until now I was unaware of the parish of St Dogwell despite, in my younger days travelling the Haverfordwest/Fishguard road many times.   Famous, it appears, as the burial place of Owain Glyndwr.

Regards, Dave
Title: Re: 1861 and 1871 - Williams
Post by: Orielbenfro on Tuesday 17 May 11 15:07 BST (UK)
I was at the Record Office today and obtained the following from St Dogwells
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Orielbenfro
ORIEL a welsh window on a surname
Title: Re: 1861 and 1871 - Williams
Post by: Orielbenfro on Tuesday 17 May 11 15:08 BST (UK)
Also further to my previous from St Dogwells is
Title: Re: 1861 and 1871 - Williams
Post by: Orielbenfro on Tuesday 17 May 11 15:16 BST (UK)
I am unable to attach under "Lookup Requests" so have attached here the following for your interest.
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Orielbenfro
ORIEL a welsh window on a surname
Title: Re: 1861 and 1871 - Williams
Post by: davierj on Thursday 19 May 11 10:44 BST (UK)
Thank you very much for the source material.   I do like the way they wrote the letter 'E' in the surname Evan.   Also John Miles's baptism does seem to confirm his mother's name as Ashash.

Regards Dave
Title: Re: 1861 and 1871 - Williams
Post by: rhw19 on Thursday 22 February 18 15:42 GMT (UK)
Hello, Not sure if you're still looking, but I'm also researching Eliza(Elizabeth) Williams, from Wallis Street, Fishguard... she was the mother of 6 children, Dinah the third of these being my great grandmother. Dinah married Thomas Cornock, a blacksmith, from Fishguard, and went on to have I think 6 children of her own.  The 1861 census shows the Williams family living with Jane Evans, listed as head of house, born St Davids, probably 1785.  From the dates on the census, it looks like Eliza was born around 1821.

I'd love to see how far you've got with this research ... we're probably related a long way back!
Title: Re: 1861 and 1871 - Williams
Post by: davierj on Thursday 22 February 18 17:22 GMT (UK)
Hi rhw19
Welcome to RootsChat and Pembrokeshire.
This was an unexpected, but welcome, update on a very old post.  Thomas Cornock and Dinah Williams I believe had 7 children - Elizabeth, James, Mary, Jane, John, Gwilym and Eleanor Margaret.   Jane Cornock (1889 - 1972) married Thomas John Miles (1887 - 1970) in 1916.   They had 6 children, the oldest David Gwilym Miles was my uncle.
After a few more posts you will be able to receive a personal message which, if you are interested, can contain family information not for general consumption.
Cheers Dave
Title: Re: 1861 and 1871 - Williams
Post by: davierj on Thursday 22 February 18 17:28 GMT (UK)
By the way, if you click on the icon of the small hut below the picture on my post (Mametz Wood) you should be directed to an old family tree called the Welsh Connection.   Please feel free to browse.
Cheers Dave
Title: Re: 1861 and 1871 - Williams
Post by: rhw19 on Thursday 22 February 18 18:05 GMT (UK)
Hi again, lovely to hear an update and thanks for the link to your site... David Gwilym Miles was also my uncle.. much missed I have to say...  sadly four of his siblings have now also died, I can send you the information if you wish, my mother being one of the twin sisters, born 1923..
Title: Re: 1861 and 1871 - Williams
Post by: davierj on Thursday 22 February 18 20:19 GMT (UK)
I look forward to receiving any updates.   I have sent you a Personal Message (PM) with more details.
Dave