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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cornwall => Topic started by: smudger28 on Tuesday 26 April 05 19:03 BST (UK)
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Hello Guys
I have found a whole host of photos of the family HORE who resided in Roche, St Austell, Cornwall.
Here are some details.
They lived at Albany House. Stanley HORE and Lillie. Stanley died around July 1963 as I have a receipt for services rendered in connection with her late husbands estate.
Photos addressed to Aunt Lillie from Sally, Susan.
Christmas Card from Daphne, Pete
Postcard from Velma.
Photo of Brians house - Isle of Sheppy.
If any of these names ring a bell then drop me a line.
Paul
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my x husbands family name is hore, they came from St Austell,maybe a connection.I'm trying to get hold of them to get more info,thanks jen
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Ok I still have them, let me know when you find out.
Paul
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A realtive of mine married a Percy Hore and they lived at Greensplat a small hamlet in between Roche and St.Austell.
Don't know if you have anything relating to him or his wife, I think she was called either Emily or Edith, maiden name Barry.
Many thanks.
Phil, the local yokel.
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Hi Phil
Sorry none of those names match up. Not to say that there isn't a connection?
Paul
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I'm new to this list and was pleased to see the Hoar/Hore/Davey lines. My connection, William Hore Davey, left Cornwall in the 1860's so the photos wouldn't contain any of my family but I would be interested in following through on other aspects.
Thanks for posting the information about the pictures.
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Hello
Where was your William from?
My Hoare family comes from Liskeard.
I'm stuck on a Thomas Hoare at the moment.
I have a whole load of info on Davey families, mainly St Neot and St Cleer.
Paul
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My great-grandfather, William Hore Davey, was born in St. Austell in 1838. His mother's name was Jenepher Hore, born 1804. The family evidently came from near Roche. There is a farm there called Mollinis that they lived on sometime in the 1700s.
William H. Davey's father's name was also William. I think he was born in Sheviock. My great-grandfather married Selina Metherell in Tavistock in 1863. By the 1870 census, they were living in Calumet, Michigan, USA. He died there in 1898. He was a copper miner in Cornwall, Devon, and Michigan.
I also had family from St. Cleer but their last name was Jeffery.
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Hi
I can't find a connection yet between our two Davey's.
All mine were mainly Liskeard.
I will let you know if I come up with something.
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:o Metherell link from Chris Meathrel, researcher and genealogist with DFHS and Guild of One Name Study. Information available on this family, please contact me on
Kind regards
chris
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Hellloooo down the years. ;)
I will try to contact people individually if they don't see this message.
I seem to descend from two as yet unconnected batches of Hores/Hoars/Hoares.
1. YDNA testing (male-line descent) has matched my Hill male line in Cornwall up with the Hore/Hoar family of St Austell, from which keweena49950 descends. This line has a paper trail going back to 1552 and possibly two generations farther back (per many on-line trees and discussions with a descendant in one of the Michigan Hoar branches). I have just posted this thread about that:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=657141
2. Traditional genealogy (relying on strong circumstantial evidence, for want of a key baptism) indicates that a maternal ancestor in that Hill line (my grx3 grandmother, at least per the paper trail) was a Hoare of St Enoder/Newquay. In this post, I explained how someone had mixed that Hoare line up with the St Austell Hores/Hoars in the mid-late 1700s and I gave some info about "my" line:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=581741.msg4675705#msg4675705
So it looks like:
1. my paternal Hill is actually a St Austell Hore/Hoar line from some point, which could be
- 12-24 generations back (99% likelihood of common ancestor at 24 generations, which would be before surnames so Hill and Hore would likely be surnames of two different branches)
- my gr-grfather Hill's father, who may not have been Mr Hill c1820 despite the official records
- somewhere in between, e.g. my gr-grfather Hill's grandfather (if he was), Mr Hill c1795 or earlier, really being a Hore/Hoar
2. my maternal Hoare in the Hill line is either
- the grandmother of my Hill gr-grfather, or
- no relation at all if his father was not actually her son, the Mr Hill c1820 named on my gr-grfather's records (and was either someone in the St Austell Hore/Hoar line or a total stranger).
;)
smudger28, I'm curious about your Thomas Hoare of Liskeard. Does he appear in 1861 as born c1801, married to Mary, or born c1803 married to Margaret? Or neither? ;) ... one was son of John and Mary 1800, one was son of William and Mary 1803 (both baptised Hoar). Baptisms to John and Mary starting in 1792 are the first appearance of Hoar/e in Liskeard in parish records.
Anyhow, I'm interested in pursuing the DNA testing and may go for YDNA67, to refine the St Austell Hore/Hoar result, and also maybe family finder to start trying to segregate out the maternal and paternal stuff, to see whether my gr-grfather really is the product two Hore/Hoar/Hoare lines, and try to figure out how and when. But if nobody else is testing, I got nobody to sort it out against ...
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G day Paul my HORE family lived in Mollinis St Austell for about 200 years My great grandfather Hezekiah HORE his wife Drusilla HORE nee WARNE with their 2 Girls came to Australia and when his wife died , Hezekiah returned to St Austell in c 1915
Hezekiah was one of 11 Children born to Joseph HORE and Ann STONEMAN
love to meet anyone with connection to this large family
kind regards
Rita
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Hi Rita, I think it's just thee and me left here ;) (Paul posted back in 2005.)
Hezekiah was born in 1847 (all the known dates are necessary bits of info). Do you know his father Joseph's parents' names? Joseph's father's name would be on his (Joseph's) marriage certificate. He seems likely to be the one in the 1841 census with parents William and Jane and these siblings:
William Hore 50
Jane Hore 45
William Hore 20
Jane Hore 20
James Hore 15
> Joseph Hore 15
Simon Hore 10
Ruben Hore 9
Daniel Hore 8
baptism:
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=baptisms&id=2244515
One way or another he will be related to the Hore line that my Hill line is apparently part of, and thus you and I will be related ... somehow ... way back.
I did do the Y67 DNA test for my male family member and the close match with the Roche/St Austell Hore held up. That person and I pretty certainly have a common ancestor after 1500, but I still have no way of knowing who or where, with no paper trail on my side beyond the marriage of a Hill c1820 who can't be traced farther back. (He had the bad grace to die before 1835 - his wife remarried then - so there is not even a census or death certificate that might give me a hint, even to his age.) We have not yet found another Hore/Hoare/e descendant from Cornwall to test and join the project, to try to triangulate our results.
I do have family tree info for the Hore family of Roche/St Austell, from the family member now in the US, to whom my family has the close match. And I know that a sibling or sibling of the man who emigrated to the US c1850 did emigrate to Australia -- but of course that would be a generation earlier than your Hezekiah.
If you can confirm who Joseph's father was, I can check against that family and see whether I can tell how far back your connection is.
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My great-grandfather, William Hore Davey, was born in St. Austell in 1838. His mother's name was Jenepher Hore, born 1804. The family evidently came from near Roche. There is a farm there called Mollinis that they lived on sometime in the 1700s.
William H. Davey's father's name was also William. I think he was born in Sheviock. My great-grandfather married Selina Metherell in Tavistock in 1863. By the 1870 census, they were living in Calumet, Michigan, USA. He died there in 1898. He was a copper miner in Cornwall, Devon, and Michigan.
Rita - interesting to note that that is the name of the residence of William and Jane, parents of the Joseph baptised in 1821.
And the copper mines of Michigan was where the US Hore family I am somehow related to emigrated to c1850 -- but they were not miners themselves, having invented some significant piece of mining machinery in an earlier generation, apparently, and thus amassed some capital.
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gday again yes Hezekiah 's grandparents were
William and Jane HORE nee KNIGHT
the children I have are
Betsy 21 03 1814
Jane dec 1814
William 1819
Joseph Sep 1821
James Jun 1824
Reuben 23 May 1829
Rueben Knight 22 May 1831
Daniel 28 Sep 1833
Hezekiah 15 Mar 1836 came to Australia like so many of the HOREs
hope this helps
kind regards
Rita
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Hi, I was the editor of Cornish World Magazine for six years, 1994-2000. During that time I was in touch with many Cornish families around the world. I find I have a bundle of Hore family records including the steam ship Ivanhoe and would like them to go to a family member. I am in Redruth and can arrange delivery in Cornwall.
Phil Hosken
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Phil, I'm going to private message you. I have a YDNA match with the Hore family in question (how or when we don't know), and I would like to give the person in question a chance to get these items. She is in the US and I am in Canada, but hopefully something can be worked out!
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Hi, I was the editor of Cornish World Magazine for six years, 1994-2000. During that time I was in touch with many Cornish families around the world. I find I have a bundle of Hore family records including the steam ship Ivanhoe and would like them to go to a family member. I am in Redruth and can arrange delivery in Cornwall.
Phil Hosken
Hello Phil
my Cornish Great grandparents and family came from St Austell to Australia and my Greatgrandfather return to Cornwall when his wife died he remarried and died there many of Hezekiah HORE family emigrated to South Australia and Victoria I would love to have the info but sadly I am in Australia thank you RIta
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Hi Rita, I'm calling dibs on behalf of my distant relation, who is the great-granddaughter of Richard Hoar who operated the Ivanhoe. ;)
I can't give you much info about your family tree (since I don't know where mine branches off from it), but I think that distant rellie of mine could. If you're interested, I could put you two in touch. She has done a load of research into the tree.
Also, if you know of any male-line descendants of your Hezekiah Hore (son or grandson of the son of Hezekiah's son), we would love to have him join the Hoar/Hoare/Hore YDNA surname project. The project is working on establishing connections among the various families of that name in Cornwall/Devon. (So far, it seems that our Cornwall Hoars are not related to the Hoars of Devon who emigrated to the U.S., oddly enough.)
Let me know if you have a family member who would be interested!
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My great-grandfather, William Hore Davey, was born in St. Austell in 1838. His mother's name was Jenepher Hore, born 1804. The family evidently came from near Roche. There is a farm there called Mollinis that they lived on sometime in the 1700s.
William H. Davey's father's name was also William. I think he was born in Sheviock. My great-grandfather married Selina Metherell in Tavistock in 1863. By the 1870 census, they were living in Calumet, Michigan, USA. He died there in 1898. He was a copper miner in Cornwall, Devon, and Michigan.
I also had family from St. Cleer but their last name was Jeffery.
hello please wasJenepher Hore, born 1804.parents Benjamin and Jenepher HORE nee HODGE Benjamin died 8th December 1813 Holm Bush St Austell Benjamin father was William Mother Jenifer
i have them in my tree also
kind regards Rita
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Hi Rita, I'm calling dibs on behalf of my distant relation, who is the great-granddaughter of Richard Hoar who operated the Ivanhoe. ;)
I can't give you much info about your family tree (since I don't know where mine branches off from it), but I think that distant rellie of mine could. If you're interested, I could put you two in touch. She has done a load of research into the tree.
Also, if you know of any male-line descendants of your Hezekiah Hore (son or grandson of the son of Hezekiah's son), we would love to have him join the Hoar/Hoare/Hore YDNA surname project. The project is working on establishing connections among the various families of that name in Cornwall/Devon. (So far, it seems that our Cornwall Hoars are not related to the Hoars of Devon who emigrated to the U.S., oddly enough.)
Let me know if you have a family member who would be interested!
Hello yes i would love to be in touch as regards to a male the only one i know is my brother as my dad died in 1961 his father in 1957 and as far as i know all the Australian direct male line is with him (my brothers and his sons and nephews ) i will ask but not hopeful as I tried as few years ago
kind regards Rita
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Hi everyone, I'm not up to speed with this website and don't know who's watching but thanks for all the responses to my Hoar/Hore post. I should explain that the little bundle I have was received from Tom Keast in St Ignatius, Montana in 1996 so I expect it's information well known in the US. It apparently came from Tom's Uncle Jack's Collection and made several family mentions and stories of the Ivanhoe and other ships that met a firey end.
I thought that these might be of interest top Hoar/Hore family members in Cornwall.
Is there anyone in the St Austell/Roche area who's interested?
Now I'll try to work out how to respond to the Private Notes.
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Hi Phil
Not sure if you have done anything about this yet but have you considered offering the info to the Cornwall OPC Group.
They may be able to add it to the resource section of their website for anyone interested to use for free.
Fizzybubble
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I have HORE family in 1790 back in Somerset but the family changed their names over within 3 generations to BOYCE by the 1851 census , although they were using both HORE & BOYCE in Birth , Marriages , Deaths and Census info gathered especially in 1840’s which was very confusing trying to trace my BOYCE family back as they used both within 9 months of census and death of Frederic Boyce / Hore .
There must’ve been some issues around the marriage of BOYCE and Elizabeth HORE between 1780 and 1816 when they started to use the name BOYCE and HORE .
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Hello
My name is Cameron Hore and my family are from New Zealand.
My grandmother has recently passed and I am in the process of collecting information for the family tree.
I am of the understanding that Silas Hore emigrated to New Zealand from the UK, and Silas Hore is my great grandfather.
I have always wanted to learn about the Hore Family in Roche, St Austell, Cornwall because I have heard so much about them through my grandparents over the years and my grandparents actually flew over with other family members from Australia to visit the old stomping grounds, and its made me curious to learn about where we are from.
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Apologies for the lack of information into our background, here is some information..
My grandfather's name is Stanley Lawson Hore and my grandmother's name is Sylvia Joan Hore (Maiden name is Sharp)
Silas Hore (Great-Grandfather)
Birth: 18 Jun 1848 - Mollinos, Roche, Cornwall
Death: 25 Nov 1928 - Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand
Mother: Miriam Rowse
Father: Joseph Hore