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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Ross & Cromarty => Topic started by: CISSIE88 on Saturday 28 May 11 13:20 BST (UK)
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Hi,
My g-grandfather John Mackenzie was born at 14 Lots of Scoraig around 1850. I can't find any record of his birth in the parish records at all and yet all his siblings were registered. I have looked at the Scoraig transcriptions from Ullapool museum,family search, and Scotlands people. Can anyone suggest anywhere else I may try or why he wouldn't have a record other than his parents forgetting!!!
Does anyone have Mackenzie relations from Lots who may be related- there seems to be hundreds of them in the 1800's with the same forenames and I would be grateful for any help unravelling them.
My ancestors John Mackenzie's parents were William Mackenzie from Scoraig (parents possibly David Mackenzie and Mary Mcgegor) and Annabella Mackenzie nee Mackenzie (parents John and Annabella Mackenzie from Achindrean). John married his 2nd cousin Margaret Mackenzie from Rhirevach in 1879 in Inverness and settled there.
Any help would be gratefully received.
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Have you tried a graveyard search?
http://www.rosscromartyroots.co.uk/
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Hi,
Yes, thank you I had.
Think I am going to have to go up and visit the area myself. I can't believe there are so many Mackenzies- maybe I'm related to them all!!!
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Scotland originally had the clan system of extended families (a bit like tribes) and that persisted up to the 1800's in the more remote areas. So you will find certain areas with higher instances of certain names.
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Hi my family are mckenzies of rireveach. If you look on the website for scoraig run by steve Webster you will find our family story in there and how we ended up in Inverness. Have you tried searching under the alternative spelling Mckenzie as certainly we believe that was our surname and I'm sure the Margaret you mention moved with Kenneth and son Donald to petty near Inverness - all of this is on our family letter on steves website. The best place to look for records is the census. Also check out Gaelic versions of the name you are looking for mis spelt in English. Hope this helps
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Hi here is the site that has our family letter. Interestingly my mother recently told me it was mc but in thus letter written by my gran it's mac. Anyway enjoy the little insight http://www.scoraig.com/People.html
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Hi Mavey,
Thank you for your message. Yes I had seen Steve Webster's site. I have been trying very hard to find a connection between your family and mine but have failed.
Do you know the parents of Kenneth Mckenzie mentioned in the story ? If they were Abigail and John it would be marvelous. I'm sure we are connected somewhere as the photo of your Abigail looks awfully like us lot.
As far as the Mack... or Mc..... thing is concerned, we are Mackenzies and have been since the late 1800s so it has been drummed into me to write it that way but I always check both.
If you think there may be a connection and want to discuss it any further I can sens you a personal message with more details. Some relations did live in Portmahomach but I'm not sure of the Petty connection.
Regards
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No these weren't his parents. However very interesting. My mckenzies married into a family of blacksmiths from near rockfield close to Portmahomack. I have long thought there must be some connection. Very intriguing as I would expect the couple perhaps met when they visited relatives ?? My uncle and aunt are going to scoraig in august so if you want anything checked out in the cemetery let us know. Have you Bern up there ?? No surprise my great grandmother looks like you guys they had a limited pool of genes cut off on the peninsula
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My family always believed the name abigail was after the lady in the big house. However when I started my research I discovered it goes right back to the start of the records.
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Just to add my twopennyworth - I too, am related to the Mckenzie's from Rherivach / Scoraig.
My friend and I have visited there twice.
My ancestral family home is now known as Shanti Griha.
A sister of my great-grandmother is buried in Bord Buie cemetery, Dundonnell, but I haven't been fortunate enough to find out where any of the others are buried.
As a footnote, CISSIE88 turns out to be my 3rd cousin - perhaps Mavey and I are related in some way too.
It's all sooooooooooo exciting.
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Hi both. Once term starts again I'll dig out my stuff and see if we can find some common ground. You can be rest assured we are all related in some way at some point in history
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Doing some digging. The Margaret mckenzie I have became Margaret Robertson when she married the blacksmith from rickfield. She was my grans grandmother. Kenneth Mckenzie as referred to in steves website I had problems tracing his parents too although I believe they were Abby and Donald. The other reason I think that's his parents name is kenneths childrens names. We have a string naming pattern in our family that continues til now. I have just dug out census records and I have a John mc or Mackenzie in rireavaich 1841 census aged 20 fisherman. Also a John in another household same census aged 18 with parents Murdoch and janet.
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Hi Mavey,
We (Heilanlassie and myself) are related to Murdock and Janet who had 4 children-Simon, Catherine,John and Murdock. John the shepherd married Abigail in 1850 and had 7 children including a Kenneth (1855).What was the name of your Kenneths wife?
I hope we can find a connection somewhere. I'm intrigued.
Cheers
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I am also related to Murdoch Mackenzie from Rhirevach who married Janet Macrae and believe Shanta Gira is where they lived.... They had a son Simon who was my great great grandfather. It's a long time, about 20 years, since I traced my family tree and just happened upon this site today. I now must go and find my notes.
What brought me to a stop is that when I checked the marriages for 1770, or around then..... 2 Malcolm Mckenzies married 2 Janet Macraes in Lochbroom Parish in the same month and same year!
Interesting.
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Just adding something else I remember.....
This Simon MacKenzie had a brother Murdo who I think became a farmer in Letters. They also had a daughter Christina who was born in May 1849, can't remember the rest of the names.
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Hello Rosieross, I am also a descendant from his nephew who was also a Simon Mckenzie from Rireabhach. Which of your Simon's children are you descended from; Christina, Donald or Annie ?
Regards
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My great grandmother was Christina Mackenzie, her father was Simon Mackenzie and her mother Janet or Jessie. I have noticed a few times that Janets were sometimes called Jessie.
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My great grandmother was Christina Mackenzie, her father was Simon Mackenzie and her mother Janet or Jessie. I have noticed a few times that Janets were sometimes called Jessie.
Your great grandmother, Christina Mackenzie (1849) was my 1st cousin 3xremoved.
Her father, Simon Mackenzie (1816) was my 2nd great grand uncle.
Simon had two brothers, John (1822) and Murdoch (1825) as well as a sister, Catherine (1816)
Catherine was my 2nd great grandmother.
Isn't this family research just fascinating :-* :-* :-*
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Hi, ages since you did your original post. My great grandmother (according to her son's marriage records) was Catherine Mackenzie of Scoraig, with her parents being William and Annabella Mackenzie according to her marriage records. She was born around 1842 so is very likely to be your relative John Mackenzie's brother.
I was interested that you say that you have all John's siblings' birth records, because I haven't been able to find Catherine's. If you do have it I would welcome sight of it.
As you say they were all called Mackenzie! Catherine married another John Mackenzie, also from Scoraig. His mother's maiden name was Mackenzie.