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Title: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: Avance0306 on Monday 30 May 11 13:49 BST (UK)
Hello,
I am on the hunt for more information regarding Benjamin Lamoon.

The information that I have for him is:
Born Abt 1797 Clairemorris, Galway, Ireland
Married Bridget Bannister 1814 in Birr, Offlay, Ireland
- Bridget Bannister Born 1800 Ireland (Don't know what county in Ireland)
--- Died 19 May 1873 Medway, Kent, England
Died 22 May 1866 in Gloucestershire, England

Children:
Martin Lamoon (my ancestor)
Born 1831 Tuam, Galway, Ireland
Married Emily Elizabeth Catherine Allen 1874 in Dover, Kent, England
-Emily Elizabeth Catherine Allen Born Wye, Kent, England
---Died 23 May 1901 Greater London, Kent, England
Died 26 May 1909 London, England (Greater London, Kent, England)
----------------Children:
----------------Mary Ethel Lamoon B 1885 London, England; D 1961
----------------Frank Leo Lamoon B 5 Feb 1878 in Rochester, Kent, England; D 9 Oct 1967 in Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
---------------- 3 other children that I've not been able to flesh out yet.

Henry Lamoon Born 1839 Ireland

Joseph Lamoon Born 1843 Tralee, Kerry, Ireland

I've not been able to flesh out Henry or Joseph.


I've seen some postings by other people interested in him that say he was in the millitary but I've not been able to confirm anything. He's been ellusive.

Any help or insight would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: shanew147 on Monday 30 May 11 14:23 BST (UK)
I would certainly go along with the idea that there was a possible military connection - quite a range of different locations in your details above

The online baptism records for Co. Kerry on www.irishgenealogy.ie show some records relating to a Church of Ireland Lamoon family during the 1840s in the Tralee area. Parents names are different however - Joseph and Mary. Joseph's occupation is listed as 'Sergt.', but maybe they are connected.. see : link (http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/search.jsp?name=lamoon&name2=&location=&dd=&mm=&yy=&diocese=KERRY+%28COI%29&parish=&century=&decade=&type=B&sort=&pageSize=100&submit=Search)

 Introduction to Irish Records (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html)
 My Ancestor came from Ireland - where do I start? (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,498742.0.html)   


p.s. Claremorris is in Co. Mayo


Shane
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: Avance0306 on Monday 30 May 11 14:36 BST (UK)
Shane!
Thank you for replying!

I am exploring all avenues that I can possibly muster. I've tried to find maps of 1800's Ireland & England but I've not had any luck. I will try again.

Do you recommend a site that has the counties so that I can see their relevence to each other? This family has been quite the brick wall in researching my grandfather's mother. To say the least!


Benjamin had a son named Joseph but I am not confident in that. The only one that I've been able to tie in is Martin. I've searched the web for more info but they all continue to be ellusive to me. It doesn't help that I am in the United States and can't travel to Ireland or England to do some footwork (now that would be a welcome adventure!!)

Thank you, again, for your input/insight. I'll be editing the post for the County and seeing if I can find a map so that I can be more precise in the future!
sara
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: shanew147 on Monday 30 May 11 14:43 BST (UK)
Probably the easiest way to check locations is with google maps - once you have a known starting point (e.g. a major town) and ask for directions it usually add on the county for you. A quick google of wikipedia can often help...  except for a few minor changes, the county boundaries are the same as they were during the 1800s

For older details try Lewis Topographical directory of 1837 - link (http://www.libraryireland.com/topog/placeindex.php) (Library Ireland)

Your main problem is going to be the availability of records - details for the two parishes near Claremorris only go back to the 1870s (assuming Church of Ireland)


Shane
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: Avance0306 on Monday 30 May 11 14:48 BST (UK)
Shane,
Thanks again!
I'm looking through some maps right now - Is it possible to have traveled so much?
It appears that Claremorris and Tuam weren't too far away so that seems feasible. However, the Kerry births seem a bit far off.

I hear what your saying about the records - I've had a devil of a time trying to find information that I didn't have to have credits for. I've run out of what I did have and can't get anymore until the next payday. This is one of the frustrating things.
I keep hoping that I come across a distant relative with information to make things easier (Not to mention, I'd like to meet a distant relative!)

Thank you again for your help, You are greatly appreciated!

Sara
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 30 May 11 15:30 BST (UK)
Hi Avance0306,

JOSEPH LAMOON

1881 Census
3 Dour Cottages,
Charlton, Kent
RG11/1000/77/23
Henry LADD, 68, Head, Mar, Sawyer Unemployed, born Ostend, Belgium (British Subject)
Ann Ladd, 59, Wife, Mar, born Queen Borough Sheerness, Sussex
Joseph LAMOON, 38, Son in Law, Mar, Journeyman Tailor, born Tralee, Ireland
Susannah, 33, Wife, Mar
Emma, 10, Daug, Scholar
William, 6, Son, Scholar
Arthur, 4, Son
Joseph, 2, Son
Susannah and all Children born Charlton Dr, Kent

1891 Census
19 Youngs Road,
Folkstone, Kent
Joseph/Susannah/William/Arthur/Joseph are all at home. Indexed as LAMOORE
Extra children now born;
Lilian Lamoore,  8
May (Mary) Lamoore, 5
Violet Lamoore, 3
Daisy Lamoore, 11mths
All the younger Children born Dover or Folkstone, Kent

1901 Joseph LAMON age 58, born 1843, Ireland, Mar, Tailor, is in Dover with;
Arthur, 24,
Joseph, 23
Mary, 15
Daisy, 11
Katherine, 8
(so another Child Katherine)
RG13/838/36/11

Son Joseph born 1879 is Reg as Joseph Clement Lamoon and he seems to die 2 years after his Father 1928, Age 50

Marriage Reg;
Joseph LAMOON, Dec 1871, Dover, 2a 1625
On the same page is Susanna LADD

Death Regs;
JOSEPH Lamoon, March 1926, 2a 1440, Age 83 (so born c 1843)
SUSANNAH Lamoon, March 1822, Dover, 2a 1724, Age 75


Trish :)
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: Avance0306 on Monday 30 May 11 15:35 BST (UK)
Trish,
Thank you for the information.
So - It appears that Joseph Lamoon was the one who was listed in the Ireland info (noted by Shane) which still leaves me with questions about Benjamin.

Off to explore some more!


*Thank you again!*

sara
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 30 May 11 15:37 BST (UK)
You are welcome Sara. Back with Joseph  :)
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 30 May 11 15:46 BST (UK)
1881 Census
45 Beaumont St,
Bristol, Gloucestershire
RG11/2495/13/23
Henry LAMOON, 42, Head, Mar, Chelsea Pensioner, born Ireland
Mary, 36, Wife, Mar, born Corfu
Emilia, 18, Daug, Unm, Dressmaker, born Corfu
Joseph, 16, Son, Unm, Apprenticed to Ornamental Japaning, born Cephalonia
William, 14, Son, Apprenticed to Tinplate Working, born cape Town, South Africa
Harry, 4, Son, born Colchester, Essex
Charles, 4mths, Son, born Bristol, Gloucestershire
Caroline MORGAN, 14, Visitor, born New Zealand

(Wow, New Zealand where I was born/ grew up !)

What an amazing range of places the Children were born ;D

EDIT oops put Joseph instead of Henry on Census and have just fixed it!
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: Avance0306 on Monday 30 May 11 15:53 BST (UK)
Trish - you are awesome!

I am going to have to brush up on my British military history to see what campaigns were in those areas..  I've seen a few posts regarding the births of the children as being way out there but nothing to ever solidify what I've read. (There was a person researching Lamoon back in 2008 and I've tried to contact her but all emails came back as undeliverable.)

It is obvious that I am not well versed in genealogy research (newbie in fact) so this all is a learning process for me.

Interesting places, indeed! I've never had the opportunity to be outside of the United States but I do hope to visit Great Britain some day.

More food for thought.. its a good thing that I'm hungry! LOL

Thank you again!

sara
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 30 May 11 16:04 BST (UK)
There is a Family Tree with Henry on it but no Parents for him.
They have Mary as nee BOHADJOI born c 1845, Corfu.

By 1901 Henry has passed away as Mary and Children Emma (Emilia)/Harry/Charles are still in Glouscestershire. Under Lamon.

1891 they are under Lamson and Henry/Mary/Emilia//Henry/Charles are at home.

Death Reg;
Henry LAMOON, Sept 1897, Barton R, 6a 41, Age 57 (born c 1840)

Trish :)
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 30 May 11 16:24 BST (UK)
There is a Will for Benjamin that might name all of his Children;
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941
Benjamin LAMOON 1866
Unfortunately my Sub to Anc does not cover accessing this.
Someone with more expertise on English Wills may give you info on how to find it.
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: Avance0306 on Monday 30 May 11 16:35 BST (UK)
Trish,
I have a membership to Ancestry - I can't get to the actual will itself but I've seen part of it through Ancestry. I've yet to figure out how to read all of it.

Thanks again,
sara
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: gortonboy on Wednesday 08 June 11 23:09 BST (UK)
Name:Henry LAMOON
Regiment:1st Bn 9th Reg Of Infantry

served 1856 -1871  served in the mediterranean,,hence the corfu births,,and the cape of good hope.
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: Cant77 on Thursday 14 July 11 17:06 BST (UK)
Hi
I think its a Huguenot name (the family may have originated from France).
A relative is also searching for more info on this name - difficult with the lack of records still intact in Ireland. We may be related - our common ancestor is Martin Lamoon who died in a poor house in South London after moving from West coast of Ireland. Our line comes from one of his daughters (I'm not close enough to know her name)
What is your family surname and how are you related to Martin Lamoon?
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: Avance0306 on Thursday 14 July 11 17:57 BST (UK)
Hi
I think its a Huguenot name (the family may have originated from France).
A relative is also searching for more info on this name - difficult with the lack of records still intact in Ireland. We may be related - our common ancestor is Martin Lamoon who died in a poor house in South London after moving from West coast of Ireland. Our line comes from one of his daughters (I'm not close enough to know her name)
What is your family surname and how are you related to Martin Lamoon?

Martin LaMoon was the father of Mary Ethel LaMoon who was the mother of my grandfather, Edward Sydney Cantle.
I've not had any luck getting much further than Martin's father. It's very frustrating - especially when you don't live in the UK! LOL

Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: Cant77 on Friday 15 July 11 10:31 BST (UK)
That rings a bell. I'd probably know his nickname - my guess would be Ginger?
Are you in touch with Roger (your parent's cousin I think)?
Send me a personal message on here if you can?
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: leolamoon on Wednesday 02 November 11 17:36 GMT (UK)
hello i am leo frank lamoon my father was frank my aunt was mary ethel they had a brother named lew or lou not sure of spelling iwill dig further and contact you again
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: Avance0306 on Thursday 10 May 12 18:09 BST (UK)
Hi Leo,
Thanks for replying. Sorry I didn't see this sooner.

I am definitely interested in whatever information you can offer in regard to the Lamoon family!

sara
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: TerryW6 on Thursday 24 May 12 19:43 BST (UK)
Quote
That rings a bell. I'd probably know his nickname - my guess would be Ginger?
:D

I am the grandson of William Lamoon born in Dover, who was the 6 year old in 3 Dour Cottages, Charllton, Dover in 1881. My mother, his daughter was born in Dover as was I.

William can be seen again in the 1901 census on HMS Tamar, the Royal Navy base in Hong Kong. ( Look on-line for a photo of the base and you will be surprised!) later my grandfather was a naval reserve, of sorts, until being called up for the first world war. He was sent to Belgium with the "Naval Divisions" i.e. they were given a rifle with 5 rounds of ammunition half a bottle of water and sent to Antwerp to repel the German invasion. They were told not to sleep on the ship across the channel or on the train to Antwerp. The German army reached Antwerp before his section got there. Several thousand of them then crossed the border into Holland and were interned for the rest of the war. Strange lack of navigational skills for a large group of sailors! ( Other wise I would not have been born!)

I believe that William's father Joseph had two brothers, Martin, who married a Dover girl and founded the Deptford, London branch of the family and Henry, who served in the army in Corfu and South Africa before  settling in Bristol forming that branch of the family.
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: Avance0306 on Friday 25 May 12 01:23 BST (UK)
Hi,
Thank you for replying. It was beyond awesome to read your information!
All the history gives me goosebumps; hearing from distant family members is intriguing and the reason why I love toiling through genealogy!

I'd like to know more about the LaMoon side of the family, if you can? I've been trying to trace further back on that side and have run into a few brick walls that are difficult to break down because I'm in the US and can't go to the places that aren't online yet.

Again, thank you for posting and I look forward to talking more,

Sara
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: Avance0306 on Friday 25 May 12 01:32 BST (UK)
Adding another bit to my previous message ( I do hope you come back around );

My relation is Martin who married the Dover girl.

Look forward to chatting again,

sara
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: crimea1854 on Friday 25 May 12 07:47 BST (UK)
These appear to be the naval service records of sons born to Joseph and Susanna.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/search-results.asp?searchtype=browserefine&query=last_name%3dlamoon&catid=15&pagenumber=1&querytype=1&mediaarray=*&sortspec=first%5Fdate+asc

William served during WW1 receiving the 1914 Star and 'Mons' bar, which is certainly unusual to the navy.

On your original enquiry, have you looked at the pay to view site Find my Past, because they list a military service record for a Benj Lamoon, born Galway 1797, and also one for Martin; just enter the surname, and then press search:

http://www.findmypast.co.uk/army-service-records-search.action

Martin
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: TerryW6 on Friday 25 May 12 10:18 BST (UK)
Hello again.

What else can I tell you? I started researching my family history a few years ago and as a result have made contact with close relatives in Scotland but from my father's side of my family. i.e. not the Lamoons. I do have a living cousin who is a school teacher near Dover, Kent but we are not in contact.
Both of my family names go back to Ireland and that is where things get difficult record wise.
The two sailors records of the sons of Joseph and Sussanah are my family. William is the same one who was my grand-father. ( Unfortunately, although I met him when I was very young, I cannot remember him, I remember only where he lived and that he had a garden with vegetables and chickens in!!)
Sussanah has an interesting history that I have been unable to explore fully but her father, as someone here has found out, a Henry Ladd, was born in Ostend in Belgium. He was British though so maybe his father was a sailor who sailed from Dover to Ostend ( they are both ports on the English Channel) or maybe he worked in Ostend. Either way, Henry's mother's name was Margaritte. Now that is NOT a British name!
 So it looks like Henry's mother was Belgian. This is the part of the world known as Flanders. It is the Low Countries consisting of part of the Netherlands, Belgium and northern France.

Here's the punch-line to that one.

Group A negative blood has been found to come from Flanders. This was proven by a team from Oxford University some years ago. The number of people in Britain with A negative blood is highest in Kent, by the channel  ports and gradually fades away as you move inland. The university found two  abnormal pockets of high incidence of A negative blood in Britain, one in Cornwall in the south west of Britain and one in Tenby in South Wales. Both are far from Kent.
The researchers went first to Cornwall to find out why this pocket of this blood group existed. They found themselves in a small port where they noticed some of the streets and houses had French names. After some inquiries they found that a French ship had run aground nearby during one of the many wars that England had with France. At the time the militia were send to find the French survivors but couldn’t find any as the local people were hiding them. Subsequently there were babies born with A negative blood.
The team then went to Tenby and with some confidence, went looking at street and house names, yup! Same story!
As you may have guessed  I have A negative blood too!
Another thing about poor Henry Ladd. He died in the work-house in Dover. The work house is where poor people where made to live in appalling conditions. At the time it was also where Old Aged people were sent. There was no pension for them! The work house or “Union” was in a part of Dover named then “Union Road” ( Now Coombe Valley Road – renamed because of the original meaning) this area is known as Buckland. You will see it in some of the census addresses’ along with Charlton)
The “Union” building was made into Buckland Hospital and I remember my Mother being frightened of ever being sent there. To her generation it was still a “workhouse.”
I have not been researching my family now for some time but you have all given me new leads. I have now seen my great grandfather’s baptism record and found that maybe the Bristol side of the Lamoon family were all soldiers and some of them were in the Royal Hospital at Chelsea. I will look into this and get back.
By the way google “Lamoons”  in South Gloucestershire, Avon  and  Bristol and you may be able to contact living relatives. Beware though one lady I contacted in the area turned out to be from the London, Deptford side of the family. People move around more these days!!
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: TerryW6 on Friday 25 May 12 13:37 BST (UK)
A question, Avance0306.

I have always believed that Martin, Henry & Joseph were all sons of Joseph Lamoon. Have you got a link to where Benjamin fits in?

Another few snippets of local information for you.

Here's where the Chelsea Pensioners live, as the name suggests it is in the London Borough of.......Chelsea. The "hospital" is a home for old soldiers who have completed at least 21 years regular service. They wear a bright red tunic and tri-corn hat for "Best Dress" and a black uniform with black cap for "Walking-out Dress". Sometimes you may see them on TV watching the tennis at Wimbledon in their red tunics. ( They get free tickets to many events!) On the following web-site you can see some of the pensioners inside a pyramid feature at the Chelsea Flower Show.

http://www.chelsea-pensioners.co.uk/

The annual Chelsea Flower Show, by chance, is on every day this week. It is located in part of the grounds of The Chelsea Hospital. The old boys, obviously, get in free here as well!

http://www.rhs.org.uk/shows-events/rhs-chelsea-flower-show/2012

If you ever visit London you can go inside The Chelsea Royal Hospital grounds. The old boys like to chat to visitors and there is a museum open to the public. I do not know if the hospital keeps old records. I expect that they have all been transferred to the National Archive in Kew, just outside of London.

Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: Avance0306 on Friday 25 May 12 13:57 BST (UK)
Terry,

Benjamin was the father of Joseph Lamoon, Martin Lamoon and Henry Lamoon.

I've slowly made my way to the 1700's for the Lamoons - and it has not been an easy road. Ireland has been difficult to get information from but Benjamin married Bridget in Ireland, the boys were born there and they all came to England.
I am still working on the connections.
I've also got George Lamoon as Benjamin's father but like I said - I'm still working on those connections.

Thank you again for sharing your knowledge! I find it facinating to learn of family's experiences and such - I didn't get into genealogy until my mom passed away in Jan 2011 which is sad because I would have LOVED to have learned more about my grandfather while he was alive, etc.

Anyways, please keep in touch as I'm sure we can fill in some spots together..

=)
Sara

Edited to correct family line...
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: TerryW6 on Friday 25 May 12 16:00 BST (UK)
But I downloaded a file yesterday (from one of two sites but I don't which one!) the register of Baptisms for the parish of Tralee & Ratass (I don't know if Ratass has the same connotation in the US...but it could be fitting.) for 1842 showing Joseph Lamoon being baptised on the 16th of December.

His parents are stated as being Joseph and Mary. Joseph ,elder, has his trade or profession described as (Sergt.) which is the old abbreviation for "Sergeant."
I thought that this Joseph (the younger one in this document) was the one who went to Dover.
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: TerryW6 on Friday 25 May 12 16:26 BST (UK)
Well now I am confused. which shows that I am in a new area I suppose.

It would appear that my Joseph the elder was a soldier who came from York (north east England). It also appears that we have two Martins! Time for some more investigation.

What I have noticed is the apparent matching of names of children between the three family groups in England. If one family had a William then within a year one of the other families would too. I guess they were in touch by post but probably never met again.
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: crimea1854 on Friday 25 May 12 18:04 BST (UK)
I just wondered if anyone has followed-up my suggestion re the army records? Knowing a regiment would enable you to trace where he was and when, allowing you to confirm families by birth places of children.

Martin

Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: Avance0306 on Saturday 26 May 12 01:38 BST (UK)
I just wondered if anyone has followed-up my suggestion re the army records? Knowing a regiment would enable you to trace where he was and when, allowing you to confirm families by birth places of children.

Martin


Hi Martin,
Thank you for your suggestion - I've tried to look up military records but I'm afraid that I might have done something wrong because I couldn't find a regiment?
I don't have funds to hit the Find My Past site either - Google searching is all that I have available to me right now.
I will definitely keep your suggestion in mind once I'm able to go further with my research.

If you have any insight on what to look for, I'd appreciate the help!

Thanks again,
sara
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: TerryW6 on Sunday 27 May 12 15:15 BST (UK)
Crimea,

I have picked up Joseph's military record from somewhere on here and his time in Ireland with his regiment coincides with the birth of his children there.

I am going to use the search facilities at my local library this week (I hope!) we can use "Ancestry" free with a library card.

As Sara has really moved me on with this, I am planning a trip to the National Archive, in Kew, later in the year. As it is a full day out I will have to make a list of all the things that I want to research for both myself and my wife.
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: Avance0306 on Sunday 27 May 12 15:32 BST (UK)
Terry!
I am so jealous! I would give just about anything to be able to go through the archives! Oh my word, the history there!
Sorry, I'm a history nut lol

I will help wherever I can!

Sara
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: TerryW6 on Sunday 27 May 12 17:03 BST (UK)
Yes Sara, having a National Archive that contains almost everything that has ever happened in this country is certainly a bonus.

Mind you, if you ever get to visit The Tower of London, the Yeoman Warders ( or Beefeaters as they are commonly called, usually start off their guided tour by asking visitors where they come from.

Citizens of The United States are told, tongue in cheek, that; "If you had paid your taxes, all of this would have been yours!" :)
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: taramcdsmall on Sunday 27 May 12 19:01 BST (UK)
Have you guys seen that Benjamin Lamoon is on the 1861 census in Clifton Glousteshire - his surname was mistranscribed as Samson

He is listed as being a Chelsea Pensioner and just has a housekeeper living with him

He is also on the 1851 Census - surname mistranscribed as Lemon this time - he is down as being a pensioner, living by himself.

Benjamin Lemoon
Apr-May-Jun 1866
District: Clifton
County Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a Page 71

George Curdell and Robert Chapman were the executors of the will

Tara
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: taramcdsmall on Sunday 27 May 12 19:25 BST (UK)
There has been mention here that one branch of the family were tailor's and I was wondering had you seen this:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/St__Anne_s_Ward/Alexander_Street/959583/

While doing searches the surname Lemon and Lamon are coming up so it might be worth taking these into consideration when doing your searches.

Tara
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: taramcdsmall on Sunday 27 May 12 19:40 BST (UK)
Hi 'avance0306'

can you just clarify where you got the name Benjamin as Martin's father !!

It would appear to me that there was a Joseph and Mary / Benjamin and Bridget having children in Ireland at the same time.

Both Joseph and Benjamin were military men so that does seem to be confusing issues.

I just want to make sure that you are tracing the correct family line !

Tara
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: taramcdsmall on Sunday 27 May 12 20:11 BST (UK)
Hi

I have found the following on a Joseph Lamoon

Rank Sergeant
Regiment 74th Foot Highland Light Infantry
Military General Service Medal
Battles Fought - Pyrennes & Toulouse
Date 1793 - 1814

Tara


Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: TerryW6 on Sunday 27 May 12 21:05 BST (UK)
Thanks Tara. The Joseph Lamoon that went to Dover, Kent was a "Journeyman Tailor" but he was not a Catholic as far as I know.
As I believe some people say, He kicked with the other foot.
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: taramcdsmall on Sunday 27 May 12 21:10 BST (UK)
Terry - have you seen this

http://www.impossiblepanda.com/public/joseph-lamoon-1793-1876/

Tara
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: TerryW6 on Monday 28 May 12 12:59 BST (UK)
Tara,

Yes thanks, I saw it for the first time the other day. My trail going cold in Tralee has now got back to Yorkshire in England. I shall follow that lead up.

What is puzzling me is that it would appear that although he was born in Yorkshire and went to Ireland where he joined the army, his father was born in Ireland. This much to-ing and fro-ing is unusual I think. Maybe his father was in the army too.
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: taramcdsmall on Monday 28 May 12 13:07 BST (UK)
Hi Terry

Where was it mentioned that Joseph Lamoon senior was born in Ireland ?

Tara
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: TerryW6 on Monday 28 May 12 16:59 BST (UK)
Tara, avance0306 has that information although I do not know where it came from. Her computer is out of action at the moment, maybe she can tell us the day after tomorrow.

I went to the library today but couldn't find anything about a Lamoon when they were in York, only the later reference to being born there.

Also I found that Joseph was in the 6th company of the 74th of Foot.
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: taramcdsmall on Monday 28 May 12 17:27 BST (UK)
Hiya,

It would appear that Joseph Lamoon Sr b 1797 ish was born in York and was the father of Emma, Henry & Joseph Jr all born in Ireland.

Until 'avance' comes back we will have to double check her information. I am hoping that she has actual documentation to say that Martin was the son of Benjamin and this was not just a presumption based on heresay.

rootsireland has the record of a Martin Lamoon born to Benjamin and Bridget but this does not guarantee that the Martin that ended up in England is in fact the same one.

There could have been a Martin born to Joseph but maybe no record of it survives.

I did note on the census that Martin's second son was called Joseph and I think his first daughter was called Mary (which could lead us to believe that he was in fact the son of Joseph Sr - but this could be just a total coincidence.

I think 'avance's Irish reference is to Benjamin Lamoon who does appear to have been born in Ireland abt 1797.

If 'avance' has documentation saying that Martin was the son of Benjamin - then it's possible that somewhere along the way that people researching this name have presumed that they were all related - which is understandable due to the rarity of the surname - but then again could be totally coincidental.

I hope that makes sense LOL but as you say we will wait 'til 'avance' is back online !

Tara
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: taramcdsmall on Monday 28 May 12 18:15 BST (UK)
Here's quite an old reference to the surname Lamoon

name: Anne Lamoon
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 12 Jan 1633
baptism/christening place: Bethersden, Kent, England
father's name: John Lamoon

From LDS free site

Tara
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: taramcdsmall on Monday 28 May 12 18:18 BST (UK)
I know 'avance' mentioned a George Lamoon as a possible father to Benjamin Lamoon

Could this be a spossible sibling of Benjamin's - taken for LDS free site

name: Ann Sophia Lamoon
baptism 28 Jun 1807
BERWICK UPON TWEED,NORTHUMBERLAND,ENGLAND
birth date: 20 Jun 1807
father George Lamoon
mother Isabella Martin

Tara
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: TerryW6 on Tuesday 29 May 12 17:00 BST (UK)
Tara,

Whenever I try to use the LDS site to search Lamoon it says no  records found. What am Idoing wrong?
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: Avance0306 on Tuesday 29 May 12 19:01 BST (UK)
Hiya,

It would appear that Joseph Lamoon Sr b 1797 ish was born in York and was the father of Emma, Henry & Joseph Jr all born in Ireland.

Until 'avance' comes back we will have to double check her information. I am hoping that she has actual documentation to say that Martin was the son of Benjamin and this was not just a presumption based on heresay.

rootsireland has the record of a Martin Lamoon born to Benjamin and Bridget but this does not guarantee that the Martin that ended up in England is in fact the same one.

There could have been a Martin born to Joseph but maybe no record of it survives.

I did note on the census that Martin's second son was called Joseph and I think his first daughter was called Mary (which could lead us to believe that he was in fact the son of Joseph Sr - but this could be just a total coincidence.

I think 'avance's Irish reference is to Benjamin Lamoon who does appear to have been born in Ireland abt 1797.

If 'avance' has documentation saying that Martin was the son of Benjamin - then it's possible that somewhere along the way that people researching this name have presumed that they were all related - which is understandable due to the rarity of the surname - but then again could be totally coincidental.

I hope that makes sense LOL but as you say we will wait 'til 'avance' is back online !

Tara

Hi -
I am still trying to piece all the information together in regard to Lamoon and how my family ties in.
It's been an adventure. Like I've said, still trying to find the ties that bind.

A distant relative was researching Lamoon but I've not been able to contact her in regard to any of her findings.
A lot of what I have come up with is supposition and trying to get timelines to work, etc. Nothing is set in stone as of yet.
I just got my membership at rootsireland and as soon as I have the funding, I will be pulling records. I've also updated my FindmyPast membership.
I am not a big fan of just willynilly putting information out there, however, answers won't get answered if you don't ask questions and in those cases, I defer to the experts.. as I am very novice at this stuff.

I've found that the LaMoon name has various spellings - Lamon, Lamont, Lemoon, Lemon - I wish there was a way to figure for definite what the surname was..

Thank you, Tara, for helping with some information - I am currently trying to get caught up with my research after being down for a few days.

My thinking -
George is the father to Joseph and Benjamin; George was in Ireland and England via the military.
I've also found a Mary Ann born in Ireland around the same time as Martin and his brothers...
I am still trying to piece it all together and it is a work in progress.

All help, input, and advise is appreciated.

sara
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: taramcdsmall on Wednesday 30 May 12 10:04 BST (UK)
Hi guys

Have you guys not gotten marriage certs ?

This is the one for Martin Lamoon

Martin Lamoon
Registration Jul-Aug-Sep 1874
District Dover
County Kent
Volume 2a
Page 1286 

This one is for Joseph

Joseph Lamoon
Registration Oct-Nov-Dec 1871
District Dover
County: Kent
Volume 2a
Page 1625

I think you defo need to have these certs to say without a shadow of a doubt who these men's father's were.

Only then is it safe for you to go back another generation.

Sara, I fully appreciate that funds are tight (we're all in the same boat) but without the marriage cert for Martin Lamoon you could be doing a lot of incorrect research, which will work out being more expensive and timeconsuming in the long run.

I presume that you are refering to 'Pam' that I have seen posting details re Lamoon on different sites. As you have not been able to contact her for her to verify her finds I think you need to do your own 'fact finding'.

Once you get the certs, I'm sure things will start to fall into place.

Tara
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: taramcdsmall on Wednesday 30 May 12 10:09 BST (UK)
Hi 'Terry'

Here is the link

https://familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bsurname%3Alamoon~

Tara
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: TerryW6 on Wednesday 30 May 12 20:48 BST (UK)
Thanks very much Tara.
It works and Terry is my name.
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: taramcdsmall on Wednesday 30 May 12 21:05 BST (UK)
No Probs Terry

Good Luck !

Tara
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: peej2006 on Sunday 17 June 12 14:12 BST (UK)
Hi, Let me introduce myself to you. I am Pam from London and have been looking into LaMoon family history for quite a while on and off. Benjamin LaMoon is my 2x great grandfather. Martin LaMoon, his son, is my Great grandfather. Martins daughter, Mary Ethel LaMoon is my grandmother.
I am not currently doing any research and have put away all paperwork etc so will have to work from memory if you have any questions. I have not really researched the Irish connections as I have no time to go to Ireland but have looked into online resources which I found really helpful.

Pam
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: TerryW6 on Monday 18 June 12 10:19 BST (UK)
Pam,

At long last you have turned up again. I was trying to contact you a few years ago. I figured that you had got stuck and given up as your posts on various parts of the net were quite a while before I started researching. I also gave up for a while but a renewed search a few weeks ago came up with avance 0306 who has lots of information. She has been trying to contact you as well. I even resorted to writing to various people with the same surname as yourself.
(Nothing to do with the fact it is also the name of a brewery family!!)

I suggest that you pm avance0306 and ask her to allow access to her family tree. For me personally I found the Lamoon history amazing.
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: smol2 on Sunday 01 July 12 15:01 BST (UK)
I am also a grandson of William (Married Ada Godden) but I have his birth date as 1874. We could well be cousins. I have only just found this chat room but I have been trying to find where Lamoon comes from for quite some time - Have got back to the Irish ancestors but I can't really make positive connections.

It would be good to hear from you.

Regards,

Simon.
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: TerryW6 on Monday 02 July 12 17:21 BST (UK)
Simon,

Grandson or great-grandson? Do you live in Kent or Wiltshire?
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: smol2 on Monday 02 July 12 19:23 BST (UK)
Terry,

Grandson, if he is the same William. My Lamoon line goes:

Ronald (Father), 1924 to 1997 - William Clement, 1874 to 1951 - Joseph, 1843 to 1926 - Joseph, 1794 to 1876.

I am now living in Hertfordshire but originally from Dover.

Does that fit in with your tree?

Regards,

Simon.
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: TerryW6 on Monday 02 July 12 19:57 BST (UK)
Ah. OK. Your brother is Robert. My mother was your father's sister, Alice known as "Dinkie".PM me your e-mail address please.
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: leolamoon on Thursday 30 August 12 20:56 BST (UK)
Hi my name is Leo frank la'moon. My father was Frank leo .His father was Martin Lamoon and i believe Martins father was Henry.I have seen a post from one of your contacts who said Henrys birth document did not list any parents names. I was told years ago that my surname contains a hyphen as you can see above but cant find out where it came from. The u k resident who you tried and failed to email is the niece of Mary who was one of Martins children. I can try to find her U K phone number for you but when i spoke to her some months ago she had got no further back than i have. If indeed Henrys parents are not named i cannot see how he can be identified with any other family line
                                                          Regards
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: Derek Anderson on Friday 21 August 15 04:21 BST (UK)
G'day..My name is Derek Anderson, and I'm Frank Leo Lamoon's grandson. Frank Leo was married to Joanna Spooner, but they split up about 1928/29. Frank & Joanna had four children: Frank (b about 1903); Wilfred (b about 1906); Irene (Reeny) (b about 1913 but died of diphtheria in WWI); and my mum Olive Ivy May (b 23rd Feb. 1921). Frank and Joanna went their separate ways when mum was about 7 or 8, so I never knew him. Joanna was 42 when mum was born and died when I was about 6 months old, late 1948 or early 1949 when she would have been 69/70, so I never knew her either. Mum said her grandfather Martyn (that's how she spelt it) was tall, about 6'3'' and was in the Coldstream Guards and used to take his grandson Frank down to the guards barracks sometimes. Mum married my dad Edward (Ted) Anderson in October 1941 as they lived in London throughout the war (due to dad's job), and had three boys: Graham (b 1944); Barry (b 1946) and myself (b June 1948). We migrated to Australia in 1957 and have lived here eversince. Mum died in 1999 aged 78, and dad in 2013, just short of his 92nd birthday.
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: Derek Anderson on Friday 21 August 15 05:49 BST (UK)
Hi...I've just been reading Advance 0306 dated 14July. His mum Ethel was my mum's aunt, who apparently owned a coffee shop come boarding house, and lived just down the road from where my mum lived. She remembers her Aunt Ethel as a jolly woman, always well dressed, and mum used to play with one of the youngest boys Jacky. Apparently she was good company for mum and her mum Joanna.
Does any of these ring bells with some of you? I have no actual records, but mum wrote down her life story till she was married and I've just finished transcribing into an easily readable document, so I'm sort of familiar with some of the history I've seen here.
Hope all these adds up? 
In my first post I said their grandfather Martyn (who according to mum lived to 92) used to take mum's brother Frank up to the old Guards barracks...well that was Green Park near the Guards Domain.
Reading this stuff is all very interesting as I don't know a lot about mum's family on her side. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: Derek Anderson on Sunday 23 August 15 23:50 BST (UK)
Hi...for Peej2006. If you read the posts I put up recently (numbered 58/59), your grandmother Ethel was my Mum's aunt. Her father, my grandfather (who I never met) was Frank Leo Lamoon, as you know is your grandmother's brother. It is through Frank Leo that I got into this dialogue. So I'm discovering all these relatives I was only vaguely aware. My Mum's Mum Joanna was close to her sister-in-law, your grandmother Ethel.
Cheers Derek Anderson
Title: Re: Benjamin Lamoon
Post by: greeneyedgirl on Thursday 03 September 15 12:02 BST (UK)
Hi, came across this and tought that it may be of use.

Marriage:

Joseph Lamoon
address: Templemoon
rel: Church of Ireland
occ: 74th Regiment

Mary Wright
address: Templemore
rel: Church of Ireland

married 8 May 1836
St Columb's, co Derry
by C. Seymour ( note says Charles Seymour was born in county Galway and was curate of St Columb's in co Derry from 1830-1839)
witness: John Shields?

Hope you can use this, Kim